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"Thirty-one people affiliated with the white nationalist group Patriot Front were arrested near an annual LGBTQ+ event Saturday in Coeur d'Alene, Idaho..."

"The suspects were booked on suspicion of conspiracy to riot, Coeur d'Alene Police Chief Lee White said at an afternoon news conference.... White said police were made aware in recent days that a number of groups planned to disrupt Pride in the Park, an annual event highlighting civil rights struggles for the LGBTQ+ communities. Staffing was increased and awareness was heightened by the time dispatchers fielded a report of 20 people in a U-Haul vehicle Saturday afternoon, he said. The suspects wore masks, had shields, and 'looked like a little army,' the chief said, quoting the caller who reported the suspicious activity. Ten minutes after that 1:38 p.m. U-Haul report, police stopped the vehicle and a total of 31 people in 'similar attire' were arrested, White said.... One smoke grenade was found among the suspects' belongings...."

From "31 linked to white nationalist group arrested near Pride event in Idaho/The suspects, who were dressed similarly and allegedly had riot shields, were booked on suspicion of conspiring to riot, Coeur d'Alene police said" (NBC News).

Here's the Wikipedia article for Patriot Front: 

Patriot Front is an American ethno-nationalist and neo-fascist hate group. Part of the broader alt-right movement, the group split off from the neo-Nazi organization Vanguard America during the aftermath of the Unite the Right rally in 2017. The group maintains an Americana aesthetic, utilizing imagery of American culture, patriotism, and other widely accepted traditional American values to promote its ideology....

Patriot Front is led by Thomas Ryan Rousseau, who was a teenager at the time he founded the group. 

A person identified as "Thomas Ryan Rousseau" was one of the 31 who were arrested in Coeur d'Alene. 

The Guardian reported on 28 January 2022 that more than 400 gigabytes of private Patriot Front chat logs... with the founder Thomas Rousseau writing "We are absolutely desperate for new people. We’ve been in the 220’s to 230’s membership rut for nearly a full year." The group can be seen attempting to inflate its numbers and importance, outlining plans to create fake social media accounts pretending to be bystanders to marches, and posting deceptive material on Twitter, Reddit and 4chan, as well as direct messaging traditional media outlets and rejoicing when it is mentioned in the news. The leaders frequently scold members for not participating in events.

They're getting a lot of publicity today.

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wendybar বলেছেন...

So the undercover FBI was out in force. These people are unknown and masked. They show up all dressed alike, all buffed up. Fake, fake, fake. The left needs white supremacists, and VOILA...they show up in a U-Haul truck. Great for the photo ops the left need for their fake insurrection show trial!!!

iowan2 বলেছেন...

Cant arrest protesters outside judges homes. A specific violation of law.

But you can arrest theses people for thought crimes.

wendybar বলেছেন...


Mikael Thalen
FAKE FAKE FAKE

@MikaelThalen
Patriot Front had its data leaked. This video sums them up pretty nicely:

Camera on: We aren’t Nazis!

Camera off: “Seig fucking Heil, let’s fucking go! I can say that now that it’s (the video) over.”

https://twitter.com/micahflee/status/1484654950395351045/video/1https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2022/01/a_purported_patriot_front_video_has_all_the_hallmarks_of_a_false_flag.html

wendybar বলেছেন...

We've been on to them for a while. They are fake. https://waynedupree.com/2022/01/patriot-front-feds-chicago/

Beasts of England বলেছেন...

Ray Epps to the white (nationalist) courtesy phone, please.

Captain BillieBob বলেছেন...

30 of the 31 were quietly released when it was found that the 30 were FBI informants.

Fredrick বলেছেন...

I'm shocked, just shocked, that nobody thought to arrest anyone from antifa in the last half decade for conspiracy to riot, like when "The suspects wore masks, had shields.... ,and were in "similar attire"".

On a related note does anyone know how you put 31 people in a Uhaul? Sounds like a clown car, or something stage managed like has been done at other 'protests'.

rhhardin বলেছেন...

White nationalist and not white supremacist. An advance in naming.

Jim বলেছেন...

Over/under on FBI informants? Put me down for five.

Temujin বলেছেন...

This is the case with our 'epidemic' of White Supremacists. They are small groups. They are scattered. And while there are a few of them, they hardly amount to the numbers on the far extreme Left. Have you considered how the City of Portland has been annexed by Antifa?

Anyway- when Antifa or other Far Left groups gather for protests, the police are there to protect them, and give them boundaries. And sometimes they stay within those boundaries. But even if they don't, nothing much happens. If the media covers it at all. they cover it as if it's just another peaceful protest and hell, it's not only their right, but it's good and proper to be an activist doing activist things.

When a far Right group is out there it's a menace to society and arrests must be made.

This isn't about making things fair. If a far right group is out to cause trouble (IF is the key word here) they should be taken down. I would only ask the same of a group that has shown it can kill, destroy, burn, loot, and cause pain and mayhem. Antifa. Ruth Sent Us. Jane's Revenge, BLM. All of these groups have killed and/or caused major damage, ruined peoples lives, destroyed businesses.

There's been a ton of talk about how the far right is killing people and causing mayhem. How the far right is our nations greatest danger. But in reality that mayhem and killing almost always comes from the Left. Perhaps certain kinds of mayhem directed at certain people is approved mayhem? And there is a goal behind not just allowing it, but bankrolling it? Perhaps our Vice President might have some thoughts on that.

Jersey Fled বলেছেন...

Suspicion of conspiracy to riot?

That's a new one on me. No weapons and one smoke bomb.

And to think just a few days ago some here were arguing that someone who traveled across the country heavily armed with the expressed intent of killing a Supreme Court Justice, and fled when he saw police committed no crime.

Robert Marshall বলেছেন...

It sounds like they were equipped to instigate and receive a beating, not to administer one. Nothing said about any offensive weapons, unless you count a smoke grenade as one, which seems dubious. Clubs, knives, guns, none of those mentioned, and they certainly would have been if present. Just shields and masks.

So, maybe they hoped to provoke the Alphabet people into attacking, and thereby discrediting their 'rainbows and love' public persona? Make the other side riot?

Would the right policing approach have been to keep the two groups separate, and let them both have their say? How would the police have acted if the Patriot Front had been putting on an event in the park, and Antifa showed up to rumble?

Do we have different standards for policing different points of view?

Beasts of England বলেছেন...

The group Shut Down DC plans to ‘blockade the streets around the Supreme Court’ on Monday, according to its website, as part of a protest that aims to ‘shut down’ the Supreme Court as it prepares to hand down a ruling that could overturn Roe v. Wade.

I eagerly await the same treatment and arrests in D.C. tomorrow.

Drago বলেছেন...

Jim: "Over/under on FBI informants? Put me down for five."

Given the FBI conjured, planned and led Whitmer Kidnapping/Democratical Narrative Supporting Hoax, not to mention all the other FBI-led hoaxes (see Hutaree Militia Hoax), I'd put the number of FBI provocateurs/informants/instigators/funders/planners/etc at about 25 of the 31 arrested FBI-created Patriot Front "members".

Drago বলেছেন...

Jersey Fled: "And to think just a few days ago some here were arguing that someone who traveled across the country heavily armed with the expressed intent of killing a Supreme Court Justice, and fled when he saw police committed no crime."

It seems like only a few months ago the Althouse Lefties (readering, gadfly, Left Bank, etc) were lying everyday about how Rittenhouse had dared to cross Our Sacred State Lines?

Too funny.

n.n বলেছেন...

Fake, fake, fake.

Fed. Fed. Fed. a la Jan 6, and Whitmer/Michigan/Planned Parent/hood, and #MeToo a la Cuomo/New York/Planned Parent/hood, and Russia, Soviet Union, Russia, Soviet Union a la Biden/Maidan/Slavic Spring.

That said, rabid diversitists? Why at a transgender spectrum progression? American Spring?

n.n বলেছেন...

Suspicion of conspiracy to riot?

Minority Report

n.n বলেছেন...

When a far Right group is out there it's a menace to society and arrests must be made.

White Nationalists are rabid diversitists (i.e. color judgment, class-based bigotry). Nationalism and transnationalism are low-information attributes (a la skin color) of the governing spectrum. The right is libertarian. The left is authoritarian. The far-left is totalitarian. The far-right is anarchist. The left-right nexus is leftist.

Howard বলেছেন...

Another false flag antifa executed FBI sponsored action made in conjunction with the ultrawoke couer d Laine Police Chief.

Get angry. Be angry. Stay angry.

gilbar বলেছেন...

suspicion of conspiracy to riot??
Is that as bad as conspiring to riot??
AND, is THAT as bad as rioting?
Because, i thought we'd ALL Agreed that Mostly Peaceful Riots were fine??
I'm joking, of course! i know that Only LIBERAL Mostly Peaceful Riots are Allowed By Law

Menahem Globus বলেছেন...

220 to 230 members. I wonder how many of those members are employees/agents of federal agencies who planted them there. The mugshots (or lack thereof) and time will tell.

Aggie বলেছেন...

Well, a shield is a defensive device, no? 'Suspicion of Conspiracy to Riot'. I didn't know that's an arrest-able offense. Did the coppers have Probable Cause of Suspicion of Conspiracy to Riot before they made the Big Bust? Or were they really just trying to head off a scrap that might damage some Gay Pride?

Anyway, these Freedumb Fighters are too well organized to be real, all pretty buff and skinny, all in chinos and similar attire (down to face mask), all with that Biff-and-Tyler-like preppy sameness. Too conformist and way too organized to be real conservatives in other words, so it must be more live-action Cos-Play on the part of the hive, or maybe the Feds. Not sure I believe they're Feds though.

You know who else rents U-Hauls? Antifa ground support, that's who. Somebody gotta haul them bricks.

Drago বলেছেন...

Robert Marshall: "Would the right policing approach have been to keep the two groups separate, and let them both have their say?"

Irrelevant.

This is about a political approach designed by the Feds to advance democratical political interests.

Robert Marshall: "How would the police have acted if the Patriot Front had been putting on an event in the park, and Antifa showed up to rumble"

In that case you'd have a literal blue-on-blue scenario since the Feds run both groups.

Rest assured that as we get closer to November that "Patriot Front" "white supremacist/nazi" crew (wink wink) will show up at a republican rally (in "support" of the republican candidate (wink wink)) and pull something that very much helps the democratical political narrative.

Guaranteed.

I would watch how the Feds position individual Patriot Front "members" in close proximity to actual republicans in the leadup to Nov....prior to those PF "members" being arrested in order to advance a "white supremacist" "conspiracy" narrative.

This stuff is extremely common in the many color revolutions the US govt has pulled off over the last 20/30+ years in other nations as well as the Hillary/Obama/Biden-led coup against Trump.

Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

"The suspects were booked on suspicion of conspiracy to riot..."

I don't think "suspicion of conspiracy to riot" is the name of a crime. It must be "conspiracy to riot."

Bruce Hayden বলেছেন...

This is just a thought. Not an assertion. The Dems are getting worried. They stole the 2020 election, then proceeded to screw the pooch wherever they did anything. Highest inflation in 40 years. Massive new debt, with more on the way, with FJB’s promise to pay off his backers by discharging their student debt, gas over $5 a gallon, over double what it was when he was elected, massively screwed up departure from Afghanistan, leaving hundreds of thousands of small arms with the Taliban, shortages in critical goods increasing, idiotic vaccine and masking mandates, that is helping to destroy the effectiveness of our military, wide open borders, with criminals and dangerous drugs streaming in, getting involved in a shooting war with nuclear armed Russia, etc. They essentially did exactly the opposite of what Trump was doing, just because they could, and, of course, Orange Man Bad. And he was doing a lot right. The Dems have screwed things up maybe even worse than if they had been trying. FJB is taking the rap, and his approval ratings are in free fall as a result, because his job is to rein in their crazies, and that is far beyond his competence these days.

The Dems are very likely to get shellacked this coming November, very likely losing both houses of Congress - the Senate by maybe 5 seats, but the House massively, right now >50 seats is probable. Maybe 70 seats. This will, if nothing else be a major rebuke of the ruling Dems in DC, with Pelosi and Schumer helping to screw everything up as much as they can.

So, what is their answer to this? Inventing a White Nationalist threat. They fabricated the J-6 “insurrection”, and now are trying, so far unsuccessfully, so sell it on TV. And the FBI, etc, hating Trump at the top, is doing their part, by instigating and fabricating the White Nationalist movement. I think that one thing that they do worry about is one for real, except that it wouldn’t be white - race ambivalent Nationalist. They worry because there are hundreds of millions of guns in private hands in this country, enough to arm every man, woman, and child in this country, and the gun safes across the country are staying locked. With every point of inflation, billion dollars in frivolous federal debt, $1 of gasoline prices, the tender for a national conflagration gets that much thicker, and readier to burn.

So, I think it very possible that the FBI, etc are trying desperately to keep the lid on this, by constantly showing that you can’t get away with revolution or insurrection. Never mind that they are instigating and organizing much of it, just for that effect. Except that they repeat the same play, over and over again. The giveaway this time was the uniforms, and, really, the single smoke bomb. A bunch of fit guys wearing the same outfit just blares “Feds”. If you want to see what the real right really dresses and looks like, just look at video from 1/6/21 at the Capital. Let me add that another give away is that this supposed protest occurred in Coeur d’Alene, ID. Nope. The White Nationalists have been gone from there for a couple decades. The upper ID Panhandle has gotten insanely expensive over the last several years. CDA, in particular, is now very rich. Moreover, it still has a western libertarian vibe - they will prominently wear their AR-15s on slings to keep AntiFA and BLM back in Spokane, but aren’t going to riot against a Pride parade. The Dems and their Fed luckiest, need to update their playbook - you need Bible Thumpers for that type of protest, and you can find them a bunch of other places, and esp across the South, before tony CDA, ID.

stlcdr বলেছেন...

I saw this on several places on Reddit. It looks…suspicious.

Also, have Patriot Front ever actually rioted? I would think there would be plenty of videos of that. Whenever I’ve seen video of Patriot Front, it’s always some parading around not really doing much. A kind of typical ‘protest’ with signs and stuff.

All in all if Patriot Front really we’re the ‘neo-Nazis’ (or whatever term you want to use to describe the organization, as it were) they are not really causing much harm. I haven’t read the Wikipedia page as I would likely find the description OTT not matching with reality.

Nancy বলেছেন...

Wikipedia declares they are a "hate group"? What the heck is that?

Butkus51 বলেছেন...

a little too convenient

Heartless Aztec বলেছেন...

It was a bullshit booked/arrest.
Optics today, optics tomorrow, optic forever!"

typingtalker বলেছেন...

If only the capital police with their $500 million annual budget had been as vigilant ahead of that famous January sixth event ...

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...

We don't want rioting going on...

oh wait. White left antifa terrorists are exempt.

Wilbur বলেছেন...

AA, you are correct. There is no crime of "Suspicion ... to do anything". Especially suspicion of conspiracy, itself an inchoate offense.

Armed with reasonable suspicion of a crime, law enforcement may briefly detain and question someone regarding their activities. With further and additional reasonable suspicion that the individual may be armed with a weapon, the police may frisk the person for weapons.

That's it. Effecting an arrest requires probable cause of a crime, a much higher standard than reasonable suspicion.

Robert Cook বলেছেন...

"And while there are a few of them, they hardly amount to the numbers on the far extreme Left."

I don't think you put in enough modifiers (only two?) to adequately express how huge in numbers and radically left the left are...in your fantasies.

wendybar বলেছেন...
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Ann Althouse বলেছেন...

"I don't think "suspicion of conspiracy to riot" is the name of a crime. It must be "conspiracy to riot.""

You arrest people when there is probable cause that a crime has been committed. There's a difference between having probable cause to believe there's a conspiracy to riot and probable cause to believe there's a *suspicion* of conspiracy to riot. To put it the second way is to erase the need for probable cause and to put the crime in the mind of the police rather than the accused. The accused did not have the suspicion. The police did.

wendybar বলেছেন...

The cops knew they would be there because they have informers infiltrated in the group, says Couer D'Alene cop.....https://twitter.com/taliaotg/status/1535752096586276865?


Funny how they dress just like the fake White Supremacists that the Lincoln Project sent to stand in front of now Governor Youngkin that was a joke.

Bob Boyd বলেছেন...

LGBTQ+FBI

Mike (MJB Wolf) বলেছেন...

Yeah I’m suspicious of U-Hauls full of khaki wearing tiki lamp holders too. I think the most accurate statement is the charge of “suspicion of conspiracy to consider possibly rioting” or “overloading a U-Haul” with Feds and simps.

J Melcher বলেছেন...

If those shields are the same model as pictured during a Washington DC "Patriot" march, we need to know for sure.

They're pretty cool, actually. The size and curved shape of a movie-hero "Captain America" shield, not the more practical Ivanhoe or Julius Caeser style shields. ( https://execdefense.com/product_categories/riot-shields/ ) Very clear plexiglass, so you can cower behind it and still see what's coming. I don't know if it can be tossed like a Frisbee (again, Cpt America style) but just the shape suggests that it might be such a fantasy offensive weapon.

They're marketed via police equipment channels. They're really expensive. Not the sort of things, as far as I can tell, the average citizen walks into Walmart or even a "Sports Authority" store to buy off the shelf. Having enough so all participants in the march are identically equipped (as in the DC march) seems a bit overly organized for a grass roots team.

And do the shields have the maker's offered logo. ? https://execdefense.com/products/round-circular-anti-riot-shield/

As always I sneer at journalists who do NOT follow up obvious clues to trace the origins and directions of events. Where are you, Lois Lane?


Lurker21 বলেছেন...

What is it with the FBI and Whitmer? You'd think somebody in the Bureau was having a Peter Strzok-Lisa Page thing going on with the full-figured governor.

J Melcher বলেছেন...

The Patriot Front's reputed founder/leader/organizer was arrested in Texas for the same sort of thing Glenn Reynolds has been promoting.

Dr Reynolds suggests (and markets for Amazon resellers) the gas pump stick of Joe Biden with a word balloon claiming "I DID THAT!"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/4/1966538/-Founder-of-fascist-Patriot-Front-group-arrested-in-Texas-for-plastering-stickers-at-courthouse

Thomas Ryan Rousseau, the 21-year-old founder of the openly fascist hate group Patriot Front, was arrested along with two other men in Weatherford for criminal mischief—a minor misdemeanor—after they allegedly placed stickers on several signs on the county courthouse lawn.

Anyone inclined to show solidarity with the Patriot Stickers movement can particate starting here. https://ididthatstickers.com/

J Melcher বলেছেন...

The Patriot Front's reputed founder/leader/organizer was arrested in Texas for the same sort of thing Glenn Reynolds has been promoting.

Dr Reynolds suggests (and markets for Amazon resellers) the gas pump stick of Joe Biden with a word balloon claiming "I DID THAT!"

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/8/4/1966538/-Founder-of-fascist-Patriot-Front-group-arrested-in-Texas-for-plastering-stickers-at-courthouse

Thomas Ryan Rousseau, the 21-year-old founder of the openly fascist hate group Patriot Front, was arrested along with two other men in Weatherford for criminal mischief—a minor misdemeanor—after they allegedly placed stickers on several signs on the county courthouse lawn.

Anyone inclined to show solidarity with the Patriot Stickers movement can particate starting here. https://ididthatstickers.com/

Iman বলেছেন...

Ultra Howeeeee!

Bob Boyd বলেছেন...

They had an informer in the group? LOL.

Was there anyone in the group that wasn't an informer?

Maynard বলেছেন...

isn't his commotion all about getting the Democrat base to turn out in November?

wendybar বলেছেন...

Have a look at this "SCCCARRRRYYY" group. What a joke. https://twitchy.com/samj-3930/2022/06/12/because-thats-not-shady-af-what-id-police-officer-leaked-to-media-about-patriot-front-says-so-much-and-aint-none-of-it-any-good/

Lem Vibe Bandit বলেছেন...

The Wikipedia page has been edited nearly a thousand times. It would be safe to speculate the FBI is all over this organization.

dbp বলেছেন...

I approve of arresting people on conspiracy to riot charges. I wonder (not really, I know why) this sort of arrest hasn't been done thousands of times when ANTIFA and BLM show up at "protests" wearing riot gear.

Browndog বলেছেন...

Too bad the locals stepped in before the "suspicion" was realized. Curious as to what was in the Fed playbook. That is, if there was any more to it than a headline and photo-op.

Browndog বলেছেন...

From bomb making, kidnapping, insurrectioning...the FBI has but one field uniform.

Bob Boyd বলেছেন...

In the video and images I've seen of the Patriot Front arrestees, kneeling in plasticuffs, surrounded by police, they all still had their face coverings, hats and sunglasses on. Seems odd the cops wouldn't have pulled a mask down here or there to see who they were dealing with.

Has anyone found pictures of them without their masks?

Michael K বলেছেন...

Blogger Robert Cook said...

"And while there are a few of them, they hardly amount to the numbers on the far extreme Left."

I don't think you put in enough modifiers (only two?) to adequately express how huge in numbers and radically left the left are...in your fantasies.


They are running the country, Cook. Running it into the ground but that is to be expected.

Buckwheathikes বলেছেন...

I mean, is anyone being fooled by this?

When was the last time the cops arrested 31 domestic terrorists, placed them in zip ties (not handcuffs) sat them down for cars and people strolling by to see, and let them wear their full-face masks and dark sunglasses for the entire duration of their alleged arrest so that they could never be identified later for their actual identities?

When was the last time you remember that happening?

I'll take: Things That Have Never Happened, Alex for $500.

I get that this is likely the government creating a honeypot for whackjobs, but could they not make it so obvious that it's a honeypot?

Whiskeybum বলেছেন...

The group was characterized as "white nationalists".

They were accused of planning a riot around an LGBTQ+ event.

So...

The LGBTQ+ crowd must have been mainly African-American, right? I mean, they are a white nationalist group, so they were planning a white supremacy riot against nonwhites, surely. No? Not an AA LGBTQ+ in lilly-white Idaho? OK, next theory...

The LGBTQ+ crowd must have consisted mainly of illegal aliens... Mexicans, Venezuelans, etc. No? Not even illegal Canadians in northern Idaho?

So then, what is the connection between being a so-called white nationalist and the accusation of targeting an LGBTQ+ group that is neither nonwhite nor non-American?

ga6 বলেছেন...

"What is it with the FBI and Whitmer?"
Rumor has it that she is being seriously considered for the 2024 Dem ticket. Perhaps Wray of the wavy hair is currying favor now..

ga6 বলেছেন...

if they allowed their faces to shown they feared a deluge of messages and texts saying in effect "hey that's Fred S I knew him at Quantico.

rwnutjob বলেছেন...

Arrested while still wearing masks & backpacks? GTFOH

n.n বলেছেন...

White nationalist transgender spectrum activists protesting the lack of black and brown colors in the Rainbow banner of equity and inclusion, and the violently redistributed remains of a white field. What's in a symbol?

Darkisland বলেছেন...

They probably broke the law by riding in a box truck. No seat belts. Or at least the driver did depending on how Idaho law is written.

I think the cops probably did the right thing though the probably should not be charged.

ID them get pictures and figure out who they are. They do not seem to be who they claim to be.

Apparently a lot of people got pics of them unmasked. Crowdsource the pics and figure out who they are.

It would be very interesting if some or all turned out to be govt.

If their pictures get posted the internet will figure it out

John LGKTQ Henry

Bruce Hayden বলেছেন...

“You arrest people when there is probable cause that a crime has been committed. There's a difference between having probable cause to believe there's a conspiracy to riot and probable cause to believe there's a *suspicion* of conspiracy to riot. To put it the second way is to erase the need for probable cause and to put the crime in the mind of the police rather than the accused. The accused did not have the suspicion. The police did.”

Just to maybe clarify. The putative crime was the inchoate crime of conspiracy to riot. And maybe attempted rioting. But conspiracy is maybe better here.

Now for a humorous side jaunt. A couple decades ago, I was ticketed in PHX for essentially attempted leaving the freeway other than at an official exit. The DPS officer believed that I was trying to cut across a median to exit I-17, to get on the access road, since the freeway was stopped. There is an offense under AZ law of actually leaving the freeway like he thought I was doing, but not for attempting to do so. He used (attempted) “exiting” on the ticket, which wasn’t a crime, and not (completed) “exited” which was. AZ has a system where inchoate crimes like attempting and conspiracy to commit crimes are penalized one level down from the primary crime. Thus, conspiracy to commit a Class 1 Misdemeanor is a Class 2 Misdemeanor, etc. Except that the underlying crime here was a traffic infraction, and there is nothing lower. The examples I gave were the idiocy of charging attempted speeding, or conspiracy to run a stop sign. Lost in the Justice Court, since the JP there hadn’t been to LS, and didn’t understand what an “inchoate” crime was. Reversed and remanded on appeal by a judge who had gone to LS. Retried, and lost again to another JP. Same judge heard the appeal and wrote a three page opinion scathingly explaining that when he reversed and remanded, that didn’t mean retry the case. It meant make it go away by dismissing the charges.

Greg The Class Traitor বলেছেন...

It's really amazing looking at video of the "bust"

1: All the "prisoners" are allowed to keep their hats and masks on
2: The cops surrounding the prisoners are facing outward (protecting the "prisoners" from any attack) not inward, to keep their "prisoners" under control.
3: All the "prisoners" are kneeling their with proper military bearing. None of them are saying "hey, this hurts my knees", and laying down.
4: There's a huge gap off to the left, with 3 of the "prisoners" looking at it. But none of them tried to run away.

It's really kind of embarrassing the way the FBI keeps on phoning it in with their false flag operations.

Greg The Class Traitor বলেছেন...

Jim said...
Over/under on FBI informants? Put me down for five.

Every single person I saw in the video of the arrest looked like one of the FBI "informants". none of them were acting like people rebelling against gov't authority

Greg The Class Traitor বলেছেন...

Fredrick said...
On a related note does anyone know how you put 31 people in a Uhaul? Sounds like a clown car, or something stage managed like has been done at other 'protests'.

Well, start with a 26 foot long one.

The question I have is WHY you'd put them all in a UHaul?

With a van, people can exit from the sides and the back, with a UHaul you can only exit from the back.

Drago বলেছেন...

"What is it with the FBI and Whitmer?"

ga6: "Rumor has it that she is being seriously considered for the 2024 Dem ticket. Perhaps Wray of the wavy hair is currying favor now.."

Whitmer's support in MI has been narrowed down to die-hard hard-left dems and self-proclaimed "lifelong republicans", but I repeat myself....

Zev বলেছেন...

How odd that no one was arrested for this sort of conspiracy during the summer of floyd.

Tomcc বলেছেন...

I'm out of touch with protest conventions, but it seems like the Patriot Front could have requested a permit for a counter protest. It would likely be denied, but at least it would give them a reasonable story. The descriptions of them being arrested and recorded while wearing masks is pretty bizarre. Let's see if there are any booking photos; or were they just released without a formal booking?
If this were a false flag operation, the FBI would have provided better/more sinister equipment and weapons.

PB বলেছেন...

"suscpicion of conspiracy to riot"? We're arresting people on suspicion alone? What about the thousands of Antifa and BLM "activists" who actually rioted, terrorized, and planned/coordinated their activities. No suspicion there apparently. Even conspiracy alone without the final act is pretty weak legal sauce.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

I guess I'd better learn to like bananas.

mikee বলেছেন...

"Hey, the arrested Wild Bill!" Quote from the end of the video I saw of the event. Raising yet more questions than supplying answers, and making the video much more interesting to those of us who like a bit of suspense and character development in our near-riot arrests.

ccscientist বলেছেন...

Actual video/pics of proud boys etc show lots of hefty middle-age men. NO tendency to dress alike or wear khakis. This group was fit, young, and dressed in FBI khakis. That the FBI is conducting false flag operations to support the democrats is terrifying. They were part of the Jan 6 event too, encouraging people to go inside.
Interesting that someone showing up at an antifa riot with a van full of bricks and firebombs was not guilty of conspiracy. And how few who burned buildings down went to jail for arson.

Jim at বলেছেন...

Six months of antifa riots? Nothing.
A group of white dudes who haven't actually done anything wrong? Arrested.

What cannot continue won't.

Tina Trent বলেছেন...

I know a few federal and local undercovers and spent substantial time with a few. That 1980s Forsyth Klan rally gone but never forgotten? A few nasty moonshiners, misfits and a bunch of undercover state, local, and federal informants.

My under/over: 1/3 to a half informants, minimum. The rest egged on by them.

The left is good at sniffing them out, using drugs and torture at times. The right sucks at it.

Menahem Globus বলেছেন...

"Tina Trent said...I know a few federal and local undercovers and spent substantial time with a few. That 1980s Forsyth Klan rally gone but never forgotten? A few nasty moonshiners, misfits and a bunch of undercover state, local, and federal informants."

I assume you're talking about the one near Cumming. Was Tom Wolfe on point in suggesting the whole magillah was orchestrated by a real estate developer trying to drive down land prices because other developers saw the potential of the area before he did.

Tina Trent বলেছেন...

Yep, it wasn't just feds involved. There were lots of nasty parts on the elephant.

Oprah and Al Sharpton helicoptered in and made millions off it.

Scapegoating is a profitable business. Meanwhile,their cities were littered with the bodies of unimportant black murder victims. Hags, both of them.

Fred Drinkwater বলেছেন...

I literally just saw film of the CDA proud boys arrest on Meet the Press.
Good god. Filmed only from behind, for no apparent reason. Every man with identical white gaiter-style face mask still pulled up, caps down, and dark glasses still on, even though they were already kneeling and zip-tied. All very fit men roughly age 30.
Might as well have had FBI in eight inch letters on their backs.