Taylor Lorenz just got caught repeatedly lying in her article such that WP had to revise it 3 times as an "Editor's Note," and it still contains a lie: nothing happened.
— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) June 6, 2022
Dave Weigel immediately apologized for RT'ing a joke and is suspended without pay:https://t.co/fmtFNy78XN
ADDED: Greenwald goes on in a series of tweets that I won't link to individually:
One should prefer any job to being imprisoned inside a newsroom where older editors are petrified and terrorized by the prospect of bad faith bigotry/misogyny accusations being weaponized at any moment by unwell, vindictive millennials, and thus constantly indulge their neuroses.
The reason this matters is because the people at these media corporations who constantly reveal themselves to be deranged sociopathic freaks and neurotics -- as is happening now at the WPost -- are the ones demanding the right to declare Truth and Falsity and censor in its name.... There's no such thing as satiating the bloodlust of woke sociopaths who live to destroy people to compensate for their own lack of self-esteem and purpose.
Not content with @daveweigel 's suspension, they now want punishment for Post reporter @jdelreal for the crime of objecting. Jose Del Real is the only Mexican-American on the Post's national desk and an openly gay man to boot. Obviously, in a sane world, none of that should matter, but this would be the key fact if they wanted to defend rather than destroy him. They suspend their own rules at will.
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If only Bezos knew!
Does This Surprise, Anyone? ANY ONE at ALL?
Some things are AOkay(because they're Leftist), and Some things are Verboten ('cause they're not)
Finally, We Can Wear Shorts in the Office. (Maybe)
Once-settled etiquette questions are open again, thanks to a return-to-office summer with fewer style rules and more casual norms." Headline in the Wall Street Journal. Couldn't help but think of you, Prof. Althouse. Best regards!
Democracy dies in Taylor Lorenz's lying snizz, which is also darkness!
Abyssal darkness...
Where Sauron...
The dark one was conceived...
Where there is no light in the void...
Only death...
But also a Twitter account...
And lies...
Lots and lots of lies...
...how can she get 5g down there?
>>They suspend their own rules at will.
... but they report the news in a honest and unbiased way. You betcha!
The intellectual and moral incoherence of the media elite will ultimately destroy it. But not soon enough.
Greenwald seems to have lost it.
I was offended by the joke Weigel retweeted because it was a pun.
Is Glenn sticking up for the men because he, Glenn is gay?
I miss Norm.
The WP is definitely bimoral.
Glenn Greenwald seems to be under the delusion that the Washington Post is a "newspaper." It's not. It's a newsletter. There is a huge difference.
It's Jeff Bezos' newsletter, where frequently the editorials focus on topics of the day, such as "You don't want to tax Jeff Bezos" and "Taxing Jeff Bezos would be bad for the economy" and other such pressing issues of the day.
It's a joke publication, but not everyone is in on the joke.
If you were the world's richest man, you'd have one set of unquestionable journalists doing your bidding safe from consequences, and another set pushed out to be your front organization.
Greenwald cannot fathom which side Lorenz is on and which side Weigel is on.
Judging by Bezos' taste in women, and Weigel's unplanned 30-day unpaid vacation, I'm guessing Weigel is not on the inside.
You can give this your 'OK, Boomer' tag.
There was a time when journalists had to make their bones by covering small stories- dull, random, some sordid, some local government, some both- in small towns for small papers. They'd work it to learn their craft. How to ask questions. How to verify a statement or confirm an allegation. How to make sure they had the story by the balls. Even if they started in the Big City they'd cover nothing but small corners of the city or courts until they'd get a chance at covering something big. And if they had talent, and it showed in their writing, they may have gotten a chance to do more. Maybe end up doing regular columns. Or just being the best damned reporter a paper ever had.
Now? Now it's a room filled with people who never hustled the streets for a story, many who don't know how to write without the help of their computer and editors, and most without any moral compass. They know what they know from Instagram, Facebook, TikTok and from whatever blogs or sites they regularly learn their 'chops'. In 'J' School they learned what to think, not how to think. Which is to say- they've not learned how to be journalists.
So the Taylor Lorenzes of the world represent the new standard of mediocrity. That is the standard today. And though the Washington Post is an absolute mess and an embarrassment, they are not alone. The entire industry is an embarrassment. The NY Times and WaPo just happen to be our 'papers of record'. But that's no longer true, is it? It hasn't been for some time now.
Remember- these people got Pulitzers for their coverage of the Russia Collusion farce which they helped create and spread. Nice work if you can get it.
But the mediocrity of our media is not solely the property of the Times and WaPo. It's everywhere. And unless someone has the money and power to shake the blanket hard enough to shake off all of the loose dirt from one of these papers, they will get worse and worse until no one will even care that they went away.
It's getting close to that time now.
I cringed at the joke Weigel retweeted. I have a wife and two daughters, so comments like that don't go over well with me. But if it wasn't elevated by his fellow employees, much like Ilya Shapiro's comments; I wouldn't have known about it. His "platform" was his own, not the WaPo or Georgetown.
Anyway, obviously Taylor Lorenz is going nowhere. It's a sad day when Glenn Greenwald and Naomi Wolf are the voice of reason from the left, yet here we are.
Buzbee uses fry voice too to sound serious. A woman trying to sound like a man. It won't work.
I fucking love it when crazy libs destroy each other in an 'I'm woker than you' orgy.
Readering: "Greenwald seems to have lost it."
Greenwald, whose positions today match perfectly with his long held positions, could not help but notice how insane, lunatic and moronic the democraticals like readering have become.
And Greenwald speaks the truth about it...and the democratical NPC's like readering hate him for that honesty and consistency.
The women are crazy joke became unacceptable in the 80s, except with men. The prohibition only served as an example.
I always wore shorts in the office. See The Peter Principle, avoidance strategies thereof. Fail in a harmless way that nevertheless makes you unsuitable management material.
The only thing he should be suspended for is that gawdawful '80s porn 'stache.
They suspend their own rules at will.
Of course, they do, Glenn. Don't be silly.
The purpose of the Party Line is not to explain the truth of the Party Platform to the world. The purpose of the Party Line is to be a flexible & implacable weapon against the enemies of the Revolution, be they internal or external.
Drago has not lost it; he seems to have always been this way.
Meanwhile, according to Wikipedia, the ghastly Taylor Lorenz admits to being 42 years old. She is no longer a girl. She is well into middle age. She is behaving like an immature 22 year old but is strangely immune from the consequences of her actions.
Is she having an affair with someone powerful at WaPoop?
Greenwood has cornered the market on speaking truth to power.
What is the thinking behind this suspension? It's just stone wrong. That must be a God awful work environment. Some workers will choose sides and attempt to inflict damage on the other side, and both sides will attempt to damage those who just want to be allowed to do their job and not have to pass judgement on a mildly amusing and/or offensive joke.......Well, the Soviet Union survived the farcical show trials.
Glenn Greenwald from 2005:
"If 'anti-American' means anything, I'd say it means an inclination to blame America for every world problem and to vigilantly search for America's guilt while downplaying, ignoring, or excusing the guilt of its enemies."
The new Glenn Greenwald from three years later and onward:
“The paramount desire to find fault and evil with the U.S.” as “the first and only real principle.”
“Selectively and endlessly highlighting and exaggerating America’s faults and downplaying, ignoring and even defending far worse flaws in others.”
“Making common cause with the most abusive and genuinely evil regimes and movements around the world, whose only virtue . . . is that they are opposed by the U.S.”
In October 2008 over Russia’s war in Georgia writing during the McCain/Obama presidential race, Glenn Greenwald, as the Kremlin's favorite media source, wrote a column blasting both candidates for peddling the “blatant falsehood” that Russia had attacked Georgia without provocation in August of that year and argued that the Russians were cast as the baddies only because they had “lost the propaganda war” to Georgia and the American spin doctors.
Greenwald’s see-no-evil-on-the-Russian-side stance during the events of 2014—the Crimea grab and Russia’s first, limited invasion of Ukraine—became flagrant enough to rankle some of his fellow leftists who ripped into Greenwald for “moral posturing” and finding excuse after excuse not to comment on Vladimir Putin’s actions.
Unsurprisingly, Greenwald’s 2014 piece endorsed the narrative that the “Revolution of Dignity” in Ukraine was the result of the United States and the EU “blatantly conspiring against Russian interests there.” This is still Greenwald’s position in 2022; among other things, he has promoted the canard that then-U.S. Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland “picked Ukraine’s leader” after the removal of pro-Russian president Viktor Yanukovych.
In the months since Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, Glenn Greenwald has emerged as one of the loudest anti-Ukraine voices in the American media, with all the usual themes: transparent gloating over Russia’s apparent war gains in Eastern Ukraine; alarmism over United States support for Ukraine leading to World War III; even the flogging of “American biolabs in Ukraine” conspiracies in his Substack newsletter and in videos. While Greenwald has made overwrought claims about the “neo-Nazi menace” of the Azov Regiment, his only response to reports of Russian atrocities in Bucha has been to warn about the dangers of falling for “war propaganda” and “social media’s manipulations.”
All animals are equal but some are more equal than others.
Every liar at the Washington Post should have been fired YEARS ago, but instead they give them Pulitzers for fake Russian Hoaxes. I don't care. Don't read the tabloid.
Greenwald seems to have lost it.
You never had it.
Though I do not match Greenwald's political leanings, I have subscribed to his substack site to help support real journalism. He has become the attack dog the libtards hate.
Back in the before time (before social media ~20 years ago), there were cultural standards for the age of exposure to adult content. This included sex, violence, sarcastic humor, etc. The thought was that early exposure was akin to tearing open a growing flower bud -- it'd never mature correctly and it'd be damaged/destroyed before it had a chance.
News organizations must hire damaged adults who were ruined as social media drenched children.
Universities must admit damaged teens already harmed by early social media exposure.
High schools and middle schools must admit damaged, confused, and struggling social media engulfed children. And their teachers are probably checking Facebook themselves at every opportunity.
Get social media exposure under control, or we are doomed to live in a crippled and dysfunctional Idiocracy.
If you're going to cut and paste drivel from thebulwark.com, gadfly, you should at least cite them as the source.
Dave, the next time this happens (and there will be a next time) consider crying. It worked for Taylor.
gadfly: "In October 2008 over Russia’s war in Georgia writing during the McCain/Obama presidential race, Glenn Greenwald, as the Kremlin's favorite media source,..."
This ridiculous lie appears first in leftist gadfly's Lefty Liefest that he/she/xe drops on the thred.
Note: there will be more.
Is she having an affair with someone powerful at WaPoop?
It used to be that if a columnist was a colorful or crochety "character" he could get away with anything. After #MeToo that's not the case for male "creatives" anymore, but sometimes it still works for women.
Lorenz could be having an affair with one of the higher-ups, but she seems too strange, too emotionally fragile, and too "high maintenance" for anyone to put up with. It seems more likely to me that she is onboard with the paper's ideology and attracts eyeballs to the site. That's enough.
I know that she may not exactly be a columnist, but she's also not exactly much of a reporter.
There is a history here. Dave Weigel was the one who blew the whistle on the Journolist and was also (coincidentally, I'm sure!) the only member of the Journolist to face any kind of consequences for his involvement.
That 2014 "Orange Revolution" looks a lot different now than it did back then.
WaPo is democrat party loyalist propaganda.
Gadfly - out of context quotes are meaningless.
So thanks for those.
As far as disinformation goes - the left have the market on it.
Dave looks like some intense revolutionary, not the victim of a revolution, but then, revolutionaries often end up as victims of their revolutions.
“Greenwald seems to have lost it.”
You’ve misread him. He’s identified “it” for what it is and determined you should keep “it” all to your sick selves.
Yet, WAPO still lets this RACIST post whatever he wants.
Jeryl Bier
@JerylBier
Elie Mystal wrote a book review for @washingtonpost in Nov. 2021 & has done a number of opinion pieces. In Nov. 2020, he wrote on Twitter "a majority of white people in this country are trash." As far as I know, he's still welcome at the Post. Dave Weigel is suspended for a joke.
Here's his tweet which is 100 times worse than what Weigle posted.
Elie Mystal
@ElieNYC
· Nov 4, 2020
Folks, I'm feeling better than I did at 5 am. We are a deeply racist country and yet we likely defeated a deeply racist president who makes the racists feel strong.
OF COURSE it was a close thing, because a majority of white people in this country are trash.
Journolist Weigel tastes some of what he dishes out.
Generation of Swine.
"Glenn Greenwald seems to be under the delusion that the Washington Post is a "newspaper." It's not. It's a newsletter. There is a huge difference.
It's Jeff Bezos' newsletter, where frequently the editorials focus on topics of the day, such as "You don't want to tax Jeff Bezos" and "Taxing Jeff Bezos would be bad for the economy" and other such pressing issues of the day."
Quite so. Bezos purchased the WaPo for $250 million several years ago. His current wealth is estimated at $184 billion. That means the WaPo purchase represents 1/736th of his assets. Does he really care if it makes money or not? No, that's not its purpose. Is it some kind of altruistic information service? Hee hee hee ha ha ha. It's a corporate newsletter.
If you think a little harder about it, the legacy media consists entirely of corporate newsletters. Their business is promoting a narrative that benefits their owners, and to a lesser extent, their minions. You shouldn't expect to find any hot news in there. Would a college newsletter put out by its marketing department tell you about sensitive issues between the board of governors and the college president, or tell you how the graduates are getting dumber and dumber? Of course not, and legacy media is the same.
readering said...
Drago has not lost it; he seems to have always been this way.
Do you honestly not see how grotesque and obscene you people have become?
Mystal is a morbidly obese, pear-shaped, no racist Q-tip
“So the Taylor Lorenzes of the world represent the new standard of mediocrity.”
Hmmm. That’s a funny way to say: scraping the bottom of the barrel…
Temujin ... everything you said and then some ... they are 27yo and literally know nothing.
readering: "Drago has not lost it; he seems to have always been this way."
Its true.
I've always had both an excellent memory for details as well as a facility for rapid and complex analysis.
Given readerings moronic, contradictory postings and most of the time simple regurgitation of easily debunked lies, one can hardly be surprised that he/she/xe doesnt appreciate my pointing out his/her/xer's failings.
The lady reporter that caused the uproar over the joke destroyed the career of a fellow reporter in Beijing.
Her goal seems to be to build her reputation as the expert on Me Too.
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