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"Though prostitution is legal in India, those who practice it have long faced marginalization, violence and police harassment..."

"[T]he Indian Supreme Court... identified two categories: consenting adults voluntarily employed in prostitution; and minors, trafficking victims and those eager to leave the industry. For consenting adults, the court said, the police must refrain from arrests and other forms of harassment.... 'It is as if they are a class whose rights are not recognized,' the court [wrote]. 'The police and other law enforcement agencies should be sensitized to the rights of sex workers who also enjoy all basic human rights and other rights guaranteed in the Constitution to all citizens. Police should treat all sex workers with dignity.'... Rights groups estimate that India has about 900,000 prostitutes. Most, they say, have been pushed into the work by crushing poverty and sometimes forced into it by human traffickers. Others have chosen it over other informal employment opportunities, researchers have found.... [D]ecriminalizing sex work is, alone, not enough to improve conditions for workers in the industry."

From "India’s Supreme Court Orders Police to Respect Prostitutes’ Rights/Though sex work is legal in the country, those who practice it often endure harassment and abuse. The justices urged the authorities to employ a more nuanced and humane approach" (NYT).

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gilbar বলেছেন...

Serious Question: What Caste are these Sex Workers?
Does a Brahmin have to go to a Brahmin? Or can they go to a Kshatriya? or a Vaishya?
I'm assuming that Dalit Ho's are strickly hands off?

Mal বলেছেন...

Wait, so in India:
- prostitution is legal,
- homosexuality is decriminalized, and
- there are multiple gender options for a passport,
but somehow we're supposed to believe that they are a theocracy?

GrapeApe বলেছেন...

If sex work is legal, then the police should stay out of it unless there is an accusation of abuse. If police are just randomly harassing the women or men engaged in sex work, then the police are the ones who should face prosecution..

Kevin বলেছেন...

It would help if Mattel produced a Barbie Sex Worker doll.

Mary Beth বলেছেন...

A nuanced approach will mean that the suspected prostitutes will be asked to pay graft. Those that can will be ignored until the next time to collect, those that can't will be arrested.

Achilles বলেছেন...

You can't order someone to respect.

You can only order them to fear.

Achilles বলেছেন...

The pressures placed on the individual by a society shape the society that is formed.

Is it better for women to be in a society that pressures people into long term monogamous relationships?

Or is it better for women to live in a society where sex work is reduced to a contractual commodity that is openly tolerated and practiced?

In both of these situations it is women on the margins that are affected most i.e. Women who are born poor and/or did not win the aesthetic genetics lottery.

Would they face more abuse as prostitutes who service marginal men or as wives to marginal men?

Because in the end we are talking about how to deal with the men and women who end up in and patronizing these industries and they are generally going to be lacking in many areas.

Daniel Jackson বলেছেন...

Okay. Let's set the record straight.

For starters, here is a rather racist comment worthy of The Raj itself: "but somehow we're supposed to believe that they are a theocracy?"

Theocracy by whose standards? The prudish Brits? The Christians? Give me a break. India is a rather complex society made up of considerable diversity and has been so for the last several thousand years. For example, it has the second larges Muslim population and a significantly large Christian population.

Like many non-western, non-Christian societies, sexual diversity the norm.

Traditionally, prostitution was monitored by distinct groups that recruited from the offspring of professional women or from the unwanted female babies of various liasons. By the tenth century, many were grouped under the generic term DEVA DASIS, usually translated as Temple Prostitute. Actually, many were temple dancers who did bestow sexual favors on wealthy patrons.

Sexual practices in India became associated with Tantric Yoga (although now greatly "cleansed" for Christian societies). The vast temple complex of Khajuraho, with its explicit depiction of each position of the Kama Sutra (and more), is a testimony to the role of sex in Hindu society. Read the Mahabharata for many examples.

Many years ago, on my first sojourn to India, I visited the historic Hoyasala Temples of Karnataka.

And yes, the Police of India, across all its states, behaves much like the Police in the "first world" being known to push the boundaries of their authority beyond polite limits.

As for social categories, India is the only society I know that permits, and RESPECTS those who do not fit into their rigid social categories, to renounce such an existence, pick up the begging bowl, and wander without home or family. The homeless are given honor and respect for their choice.

Our theocratic culture could learn a few lessons on social relations from their theocratic cultures. More than meditating, a rich person's sport anyway.

Michael K বলেছেন...

India could also try to stop the "kitchen fires" that kill new wives to get their dowries.

Narayanan বলেছেন...

but somehow we're supposed to believe that they are a theocracy?

... and third world shithole country! who populate H1 visas

Narayanan বলেছেন...

Serious Question: What Caste are these Sex Workers?
Does a Brahmin have to go to a Brahmin? Or can they go to a Kshatriya? or a Vaishya?
I'm assuming that Dalit Ho's are strickly hands off?

good question >>> Answer here

Gospace বলেছেন...

Old rule of leadership:

Never give an order that won't be obeyed.

The Indian Supreme Court has never heard that one.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"Most, they say, have been pushed into the work by crushing poverty and sometimes forced into it by human traffickers."

That's how I got my start, too.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"Would they face more abuse as prostitutes who service marginal men or as wives to marginal men?"

Well, Achilles, some might point out that there are other possibilities.

Howard বলেছেন...

Love the Christian hate of brown people, guys.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

You will note, Howard, that for many purposes, Indians are honorary Wipipo. There are, I believe, a couple of reasons for this. One is that India is opposed to China, and also suppresses its large Muslim population. Another is that Indians, at least the ones who come here, seem to be perfectly capable of earning a living without any help from the EEOC. Notice, for example, that Indians are running Google and Twitter, and many of them are professors at major universities, in real subjects. Doesn't that sound like Wipipo?

Achilles বলেছেন...

From Nayaranan's link above:

Devadasi literally means God’s (Dev) female servant (Dasi), where according to the ancient Indian practice, young pre-pubertal girls are ‘married off’, ‘given away’ in matrimony to God or Local religious deity of the temple. These girls are not allowed to marry, as they were supposedly married to the temple. She ‘serves’ the priests and inmates of the temple, and the Zamindars (local land lords) and other men of money and power, in the town and village. The ‘service’ (read sexual satisfaction) given to these men is considered akin to service of God. The Devadasi is dedicated to the service of the temple Deity for life and there is no escape for her. If she wants to escape, the society will not accept her.

Howard said...

Love the Christian hate of brown people, guys.


Is it Christian to find this sort of system abhorrent Howard?

Once again you open your mouth and show everyone how stupid and ignorant and driven by hate you really are.

We are just better, smarter people than you Howard.

Jupiter বলেছেন...

"We are just better, smarter people than you Howard."

Howard's pretty smart.

n.n বলেছেন...

Keep women available and taxable. Appointed, perhaps. A modern model for women of black, brown, and white that covers the "diverse" Indian population.

Robert Cook বলেছেন...

"...but somehow we're supposed to believe that they are a theocracy?"

Who says it's a theocracy?

gilbar বলেছেন...

Narayanan said...
good question >>> Answer here

Thanx Nara!
Something for me to remember, the next time someone tells me that slavery is a uniquely American thing

Robert Cook বলেছেন...

"Something for me to remember, the next time someone tells me that slavery is a uniquely American thing."

Has anyone ever said that?

No. Don't make shit up.