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"A growing body of preliminary research suggests the Covid vaccines used in most of the world offer almost no defense against becoming infected by the highly contagious Omicron variant...."
"[O]nly the Pfizer and Moderna shots, when reinforced by a booster, appear to have success at stopping infections, and these vaccines are unavailable in most of the world.
The other shots — including those from AstraZeneca, Johnson & Johnson and vaccines manufactured in China and Russia — do little to nothing to stop the spread of Omicron, early research shows.... The Pfizer and Moderna shots use the new mRNA technology, which has consistently offered the best protection against infection with every variant. All of the other vaccines are based on older methods of triggering an immune response.... 'High vaccination coverage combined with early reports that Omicron does not cause serious illness is leading to a false sense of security in the country.... We have to get people to understand that it doesn’t work like that: If you get high transmissibility you’re going to have the health system saturated because the number of people getting ill will be higher'..."
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So what's the problem? Omicron makes you slightly sick and provides natural immunity. You should want to become infected with omicron.
Alec Baldwin has killed more people than the omicron variant.
Getting vaccinated fully is the best one can do. So far there has been no clear and conclusive evidence that masking and lockdowns work.
I wonder how many iterations of this ploy will have to occur before the least dense democraticals understand what is really going on here.
The New York Road Runners has imposed a vaccine requirements on race participants. This is for outdoor races. Moreover, so as not to hinder their ability to attract foreign runners for races such as the New York Marathon, any vaccine approved by the WHO counts -- including the clearly ineffective Chinese vaccines.
So, is the NYRR's new requirement the result of good intentions or a cynical marketing ploy? The same questions could be asked of most COVID-era restrictions. I, for one, will never run another NYRR race.
The Xi variant is not nearly as deadly as Delta.
Fortunately, Omicron is like a mild flu.
I like the NYT's juxtaposition of these two statements:
"...Omicron does not cause serious illness"
"...you’re going to have the health system saturated because the number of people getting ill will be higher..."
So apparently we are to conclude that all those non-seriously ill Omicron patients are going to be overwhelming our hospitals.
In what universe does this type of logic make sense?
"They do seem to offer significant protection against severe illness, but the consequences of rapidly spreading infection worry many public health experts"
Except that protection plus infection appears to increase immunity. More vaxxed healthy people need to get infected, for the common good. Lockdowns are counterproductive.
The vaccine does not prevent covid. It also does not prevent severe illness. What it seems to do is mitigate the worse effects of covid. As it only mitigates, spreading by the vaccinated has always been a possibility. I understand why so many would be confused, because the CDC and the media fail to use the proper wording that risk professionals typically use.
As for the part about saturating our health system, here is a suggestion: quit over-reacting to a disease that can be treated with symptom management by 80% of the population. Quit acting like those who prefer symptom management to untried vaccine are weird for doing what has normally kept hospitals from being saturated. Instead, everyone with a slight cold to bad allergies runs to the clinic to get a covid test (or forced to do so by their employer) and then goes to the hospital simply because the test was positive while showing no emergent signs for hospitalization.
Vaccine failure is something very real to consider. This as our President and other Governors and 'public health' officials consider just how they can force people back indoors, mandate more vaccinations, and enforce masking. What's happening in Denmark
Omicron is probably working it's way through America as we sit here today. Still, as of today, globally the death rate for this variant is very low. Hospitalization in South Africa has decreased now after an initial strong hit.
So what to do? Here in FL we'll probably just keep living life as each individual feels they can. The malls have been packed, as have the restaurants, sports arenas, and holiday event gatherings. We take part or not. It's up to each of us. Our Governor seems to stay one step ahead of the rest of the nation. The latest is this: DeSantis announces new therapy for Floridians This is not the original monoclonal treatment (which he was first in the nation to make available in quantity around the state), but a new version which can be used for the vaccinated.
The more you test, the more cases you will find. If you have a disease that is mostly mild, many of the cases will be asymptomatic and if you detect them with your test, you will have a paper pandemic but no actual public health catastrophe. Most of the people who get infected won't even know it, won't go to the doctor or the hospital, won't die. But if that's the case, the public health commissars and experts won't have a reason to impose yet another lockdown and demand that all the ignorant denialisms be forced to get more shots.
The evolution of this hell-virus --toward a more-infectious but less-dangerous form-- is, I am told what viruses tend to do. The continued (and increasing) authoritarian over-management of the pandemic is now the real public health problem.
They are still pushing panic, even now. It will interesting to see what President Shit For Brains has to say on Tuesday. Hopefully, it will not be a panic reaction, but I have my doubts.
They do seem to offer significant protection against severe illness
Seem to? How sciencey…
Posted under the wrong article...
Maybe this time we don't blame hillbillies and Black people who refuse to get vaccinated? What if it's the vaccinated people's fault? If the vaccines do not prevent transmission, can they create conditions that promote the emergence of Covid variants that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated people? Instead of "hot" strains disappearing as hosts die, they just get hotter:
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/are-leaky-vaccines-causing-the-new-covid-19-mutations
you’re going to have the health system saturated because the number of people who either have been Fired or Quit, because of Vaccine mandates
fify!
Joe Biden was caught on microphone......excitedly responding ”There’s gonna be Pi?”
Omicron kills fewer people than the flu.
It is free and it works better than the vaccines.
Win win win.
Omicron as we will discover is a bad cold. Short lived.
Alternate Headline
Omicron set to become the dominant strain, driving us to herd immunity with much lower deal.th toll.
or
Pandemic soon over, Governments hardest hit
The developments on the CCP virus over the last 12 months have followed closely the scenario laid out by Geert Vanden Bossche and a few others with his perspective. Worth checking out anything more he has to say. Particularly on why new variants defeat the "vaccines."
Meanwhile,
---'High vaccination coverage combined with early reports that Omicron does not cause serious illness is leading to a false sense of security in the country.... We have to get people to understand that it doesn’t work like that"
While they are panicking, it is hard not to see a mild but more-infectious species of this manmade CCP virus as a blessing in its possible inoculation powers. If natural immunity is broader than mRNA immunity, then natural immunity conferred on us by mild cases of omicron CCP could be a tremendous step in defanging this coronavirus. This manmade coronovirus brought to the world by US tax dollars. And lied about to us by Fauci, the CDC, too many medical experts to name, and most of the tedious Establishment who are too invested in themselves and their business connections to consider the truth when it gets anywhere near them.
If a rapidly spreading infection rate from Omicron leads only to temporary mild illness, natural immunity will spread rapidly among those so infected.
That's very likely a good thing.
The doc who developed the mRNA virus said so, pointing out that Omicron seems to develop in bronchial tubes and not in the lungs, which points to much better outcomes.
What bureaucratic chair-moisteners like Dr. Fauscisti really worry about is running out of reasons to oppress us all, ending the Theater of the Absurd we've been living in.
Go back and watch the 1920 silent film "The Cabinet of Dr. Caligari" to experience the craziness they've inflicted on us.
As wikipedia puts it, "The film thematizes brutal and irrational authority."
That's exactly where we are now.
Fear porn...it will never end. There will always be another virus. There will always be another flu. Masks forever. Mail in ballots forever. Drop boxes forever. D rule forever. We are subjects, not citizens.
Most of the World’s Vaccines Likely Won’t Prevent Infection From Omicron/They do seem to offer significant protection against severe illness,
So they work in every way that matters, but they fail the religious purity test.
Omicron is going to be the chicken pox of 2022.
Prevaccine, 4,000,000 children got it annually. 10p were hospitalized, 10 died in a typical year.
Once you had it, you could live to 100 never having to worry about it again.
My wife watched a half hour about Fauci talking about how contagious omicron is. I did not hear a single word about how dangerous it is. Not very from all I've seen
Alex Baldwin has still killed more people than omicron I think.
One death reported with omicron is it.
John Henry
If the health system is saturated is will not be because of the Omicron variant. It will be because the Democrats have forced hospitals to fire staff who chose not to take the vaccine. And in the last two years the government has neither built facilities to care for a mass of COVID patients nor trained up a cadres of nurses and other health care workers. Instead, the actions have been to maximize hospital system profits, not introduce competition by way of more facilities and limit the workforce.
Ho hum. If the number of deaths due to a bad cold in a normal year are about the same as the number of deaths due to Omicron, then what's the big whoop? This is just a bunch of lefties trying to jack the rest of us around. Give it a rest, lefty morons. We've kind of had enough of you. Didn't the election results in Virginia (and the near upset in Joisey) tell you anything?
All variants and the virus formally known as SARS-CoV-2 formerly from Wuhan. That said, non-sterilizing "vaccine(s)" that are neither robust nor durable, with excess adverse events in the lowest risk cohorts, distributed to the general population. Follow the cargo cult.
Shorter New Your Times article - WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE!!!!!!!
I, for one, expect to get Omicrom, despite being thrice jabbed. And I expect to have little to
no trouble surviving the infection. Getting Omicrom really is a good thing, because then I will have the best and longest lasting immunity possible for all COVID types. And I expect to see a different and even less harmful variant next year, and the year after, and so on.
COVID is here to stay. If you're fat, lose it or face the consequences. If you're immunocompromised or old, be careful with social distance, don't touch your face, wear a mask, wash your hands. Otherwise, COVID is over.
"A growing body of preliminary research suggests the Covid vaccines used in most of the world offer almost no defense against becoming infected by the highly contagious Omicron variant..."
Nary a word about natural immunity. I got as far into the article as I could before the paywall stopped me but didn't see a thing about it. Also, 'preliminary,' 'suggests;' weasel words.
A few thoughts: The beginning of wisdom about O is not how dangerous it is to ordinary people and how many deaths may be expected; it is the expected damage to the hospital system. From the point of view of a "public health expert", and a politician, the issue is simple: will the hospital system be "overwhelmed" by Omicron? But if we look back, we see that of the unprecedented and truly enormous amount of money the government has spent over the last 2 years to keep the economy afloat and, essentially, pay for the broader effects of NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions, which is the fancy term for lockdowns, school restrictions, travel restrictions).... despite this enormous expenditure (the US money supply has increase something like $5 trillion since Covid) not one cent of this tsunami has gone to building ANY new hospital capacity. One thing even people interested in this point don't always understand is the problem is usually not physical hospital space (remember the Javits Center?), but staff -- nurses and, to a lesser extent, physicians. The health bureaucracy should be thinking about allowing asymptomatic nurses who test positive to continue working in Covid wards (if they are willing).....this is the advantage we have with a variant of the disease which produces very mild symptoms. (Which is not to say there will not be many serious cases, simply because of the perhaps/presumably much larger number of people who will be infected by O.). In other words, if the South African data is correct, even hospitalized O patients recover with oxygen -- they rarely "need" ventilators, they rarely die; some will need some form of anti-inflammation drug. Treating these kinds of patients is much simpler than treating the kind of lung-destruction we have seen in earlier waves. PLUS -- rarely mentioned -- we now have Paxlovid and other protease inhibitors which are expected to work against O, and, importantly, are taken AT HOME, no hospitalization required.
Lessons learned? Viruses "mutate". They do not disappear (especially respiratory viruses). They evolve to evade vaccination protection. If the social goal is to absolutely minimize the number of deaths attributable to such viruses, ANY form of extreme
non-pharmaceutical intervention (see New Zealand) can be justified. If the social goal is to balance the interest in protecting the largest number of people from the worst consequences, we should (1) make nursing a better paid field and produce more nurses, FAST! Bring retired nurses, if they are willing, out of retirement. There will be union issues with creating more nurses, so I don't expect much from the Biden people, but people should know this is the true bottleneck, (2) make sure nursing and other resources can be moved around the country as the virus will peak in different areas at different times,
(3) stop telling the public vaccines are the be-all and end-all (they are really terrific, but now that we have pills, we need to make pills important too -- speed up Paxlovid roll-out from late March to ASAP); and (4) balance the harms of NPI's against the benefits.
A few thoughts: The beginning of wisdom about O is not how dangerous it is to ordinary people and how many deaths may be expected; it is the expected damage to the hospital system. From the point of view of a "public health expert", and a politician, the issue is simple: will the hospital system be "overwhelmed" by Omicron? But if we look back, we see that of the unprecedented and truly enormous amount of money the government has spent over the last 2 years to keep the economy afloat and, essentially, pay for the broader effects of NPI's (non-pharmaceutical interventions, which is the fancy term for lockdowns, school restrictions, travel restrictions).... despite this enormous expenditure (the US money supply has increase something like $5 trillion since Covid) not one cent of this tsunami has gone to building ANY new hospital capacity. One thing even people interested in this point don't always understand is the problem is usually not physical hospital space (remember the Javits Center?), but staff -- nurses and, to a lesser extent, physicians. The health bureaucracy should be thinking about allowing asymptomatic nurses who test positive to continue working in Covid wards (if they are willing).....this is the advantage we have with a variant of the disease which produces very mild symptoms. (Which is not to say there will not be many serious cases, simply because of the perhaps/presumably much larger number of people who will be infected by O.). In other words, if the South African data is correct, even hospitalized O patients recover with oxygen -- they rarely "need" ventilators, they rarely die; some will need some form of anti-inflammation drug. Treating these kinds of patients is much simpler than treating the kind of lung-destruction we have seen in earlier waves. PLUS -- rarely mentioned -- we now have Paxlovid and other protease inhibitors which are expected to work against O, and, importantly, are taken AT HOME, no hospitalization required.
Lessons learned? Viruses "mutate". They do not disappear (especially respiratory viruses). They evolve to evade vaccination protection. If the social goal is to absolutely minimize the number of deaths attributable to such viruses, ANY form of extreme
non-pharmaceutical intervention (see New Zealand) can be justified. If the social goal is to balance the interest in protecting the largest number of people from the worst consequences, we should (1) make nursing a better paid field and produce more nurses, FAST! Bring retired nurses, if they are willing, out of retirement. There will be union issues with creating more nurses, so I don't expect much from the Biden people, but people should know this is the true bottleneck, (2) make sure nursing and other resources can be moved around the country as the virus will peak in different areas at different times,
(3) stop telling the public vaccines are the be-all and end-all (they are really terrific, but now that we have pills, we need to make pills important too -- speed up Paxlovid roll-out from late March to ASAP); and (4) balance the harms of NPI's against the benefits.
Getting ill with a cold. The so-called health authorities just can't help themselves. Everything must be a crisis or otherwise we can't justify our funding nor our fascist decrees.
Just ignore them.
I think its too early to tell, and this gloom and doom stuff is as premature as the "it's a mild cold" stuff. But South Africa got through it pretty much with the J&J vaccine and Pfizer.
The problem is that it is summer in SA and winter up here, mostly, and it's cold and flu season just starting here, and even if a smaller percentage end up in the hospital, it's a small percentage of what is likely to be a very large number.
Whatever your strategy has been, now is when it will be tested. Anybody who says they *know* what is going to happen is either lying, or in denial.
how do we know this is true?
Talked with a neighbor with kids in Brooklyn (NY, not WI). "Everyone" there has COVID, and they're all vaccinated and boosted. So I slept in today. Good sleep habits help your immune system.
That's what they want you to believe so you take the microchipped spike protein poison "vaccines" designed by Bill Gates to genocide the useless eaters.
Be common sensical, have an Omicron party and get that natural immunity like G_d intended.
Sounds like the seasonal flu.
New variant every year?
Vaccine may or may not be effective?
Variant may or may not be real bad?
Respiratory virus that hurts those with bad immune systems/lungs?
Sarah Palin has said “over my dead body” will she allow authorities force her to get a Covid-19 vaccine.
“Do you remember Dr. Fauci said that if you had Covid, you would be naturally immune?” she asked.
In a conversation with the CDC doctor, Dr. Sanjay Gupta said: “So, as we talk about vaccine mandates, I get calls all the time, people say ‘I’ve already had COVID, I’m protected.’ And now an Israeli study says maybe even more protected than the vaccine alone. Should they also get the vaccine? How do you make the case to them?”
Fauci responded: “You know, that’s a really good point Sanjay. I don’t have a really firm answer for you on that. That’s something that we’re going to have to discuss regarding the durability of the response.”
So, no Sarah, you can't recall what wasn't said.
Who cares about Omicron... it is not deadly.. few days of sore muscles...
Get a life folks... the pandemic is OVER.
the freshly boostered may not be doing as badly against omicron now, but they will be in a month. the early data always gets the most favorable interpretation possible; there are fewer fudge degrees of freedom with the data bins after enough time passes. in any case, it seems likely that unvaccinated people will fare well with omicron. merely double shot folks are going to do worse than unvaccinated, too.
And just in time for Christmas, Biden's Earpiece Administration is beginning to finally recognize the lies they have told about COVID, all of which were amplified by the usual moron lefty suspects like gadfly and Howard, are becoming inoperative and so, just like that, we will soon witness a total reversal by the lefties and what policies should govern how our nation deals with COVID.
Needless to say, the mindless drones on the left, such as gadfly (who told us there was no inflation problem) and Howard (who STILL claims antifa is a "myth" and that no Americans were left in Afghanistan) will be fun to watch as they switch their COVID talking points over night without blinking an eye.
Biden admin eyes a potentially stark shift in messaging around ending the pandemic
"Some of Biden's advisers are encouraging the administration to begin discussing publicly how to live alongside a virus that shows no signs of disappearing, a potentially stark shift in messaging for a White House that once touted "freedom from the virus.
Steering public attention away from the total number of infections and toward serious cases only -- as some Biden advisers have encouraged -- could prove a challenge after nearly two years of intense focus on the pandemic's every up and down. It is a part of a growing conundrum that Biden faces as the Covid-19 pandemic refuses to abate."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/12/18/politics/white-house-omicron-warning-joe-biden/index.html
Democraticals having trouble with their chickens-lies coming home to roost? Time to change definitions, focus, terms, policies and pretend their 2-year old act never happened at all.
Hey gadfly, you'd better dig deep for more Sarah Palin quotes to try and deflect from your earthly "messiah's" utter and complete failure. Maybe dredge up a quote or two from Thomas Dewey while you are at it and pretend that is relevant.
Re Temujin's FLA mAb news.
From 12/8 FDA release:
"One dose of Evusheld, administered as two separate consecutive intramuscular injections (one injection per monoclonal antibody, given in immediate succession), may be effective for pre-exposure prevention for six months. Evusheld is not authorized for individuals for the treatment of COVID-19 or for post-exposure prevention of COVID-19. "
Right..but other mAbs are....not even a mention.
So we have...
mAbs for active treatment of symptomatic, asymptomatic but exposed, and now prophylaxis for higher risk or vax averse folk.
Each expansion under a relative cone of silence and controlled distribution to states by "equity" formulas.
https://www.fda.gov/news-events/press-announcements/coronavirus-covid-19-update-fda-authorizes-new-long-acting-monoclonal-antibodies-pre-exposure?fbclid=IwAR0C6SRwlaY2yesACzjTXS0njxMTUcZdtsGSt1eJoyaTQ6AfS-gyrJKbK68
NY Times is a cult bible. It's readers even dress funny, wearing masks and all.
Poor gadfly's Fauci quote already aging poorly, while excluding that Palin already had the Ro.
"So at the time we were led to believe we wouldn’t need to have the shot. Well, then they changed their tune. Those of us who have had Covid, they’re telling us that even though we’ve had it - we have natural immunity - now that we still have to get a shot.”
She added: “And it’ll be over my dead body that I get a shot. I will not. I won’t do it and they better not touch my kids either.”
While Dr Fauci and other experts have previously talked of a degree of natural immunity for those who have had Covid, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) recommends that people get vaccinated to better protect themselves."
https://news.yahoo.com/sarah-palin-says-over-dead-202135336.html?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly9kdWNrZHVja2dvLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAFI6gAlFcXAPpAHyP7geOdE81crWtvjjZaxTdyK8jdnEqGCkpxkC8v21D0pXib-JHN-khto4hdkjio9TljcjM5Mr9ysmDq58eQ1UisCOnZ9n99XtcDSxhG6jI3wC5FM5oMjCU5HXkcyOuv9LsS_Uv2auc-EnBxz9L2XYgxHz2ZjE
How convenient that all the rest of the world's vaccines targeted to the alpha variant are worthless on a new variant while the 2 main ones in the US that target the same alpha variant, which are also the 2 that use novel technology just happen to work. How much did the patent holders pay for those conclusions?
The sports world is blowing up the vaccine narrative, they made such a virtue signal of 90%+ vaxx rates and now Covid is tearing through the leagues at a rate never seen this time last year when nobody had vaccines. What is happening now is pretty much what the experts said was going to happen back in early 2020 - we are all going to get it sooner or later if not already immune because that's what coronaviruses do, and they mutate faster than the government can jab.
Why doesn't some ambitious reporter actually look at the cases and causes of natural deaths here in Milwaukee as reported by the Medical Examiner and write stories from that knowledge base instead of from Twitter fevers?
I've looked at every case of Covid as reported on that site from December 2020 till Dec. 18 2021.
https://county.milwaukee.gov/EN/Medical-Examiner/Public-Data
During all that time, anyone, anyone at all of any age, who had several systemic diseases, combinations of diabetes, heart disease, pulmonary disease, cirrhosis, cancer or morbid obesity and who was not vaccinated has been very much at risk of dying if they got any version of Covid. The next most at risk has always been those with combinations of those systemic diseases but who were vaccinated. Then came those with just one systemic disease who were not vaccinated, then those with one systemic disease who were vaccinated. Far, far behind in terms of numbers dying came the next group - healthy unvaccinated people - and none of them were children. Vaccine breakthroughs so far have not changed this pattern. The breakthroughs followed by death happen to those most at risk. Omicron will either change this pattern or it will not. Which is happening? That is the question. Forget Juicy. Wouldn't the true Omicron pattern be an amazing story for a reporter to break?
PS The story so far.
In December 2020 in Milwaukee by December 18 we had 311 deaths from all natural causes which includes Covid
In December 2021 in Milwaukee by December 18, we had 188 deaths from all natural causes which includes Covid.
So either the pattern is holding and we're OK or in the next few days Omicron will break the pattern. C'mon, Journal Sentinel. Tell it like it is.
“ While they are panicking, it is hard not to see a mild but more-infectious species of this manmade CCP virus as a blessing in its possible inoculation powers. If natural immunity is broader than mRNA immunity, then natural immunity conferred on us by mild cases of omicron CCP could be a tremendous step in defanging this coronavirus.”
There are only two credible reasons to require vaccinations. One is to protect the health care system from being swamped. But the vaccination requirements are doing more to cause this, than the vaccines themselves, by forcing health care workers unwilling to be vaccinated to be fired. The absurdity here is that a number of those fired for refusing to be vaccinated already had natural immunity, from having had the virus earlier. And, the vaccines had never been tested on those with natural immunity, since the bulk of the testing was before there was a sizable population of people with natural immunities. Plus, there is some evidence that the (ignored by public health officials) side effects from the vaccines might be worse for those with natural immunities.
The other credible justification would be to reach herd immunity. But these vaccines are leaky enough, esp since they quickly lose efficacy, that they don’t appreciably add to achieving herd immunity. It is actually having had the virus, and surviving it, that does. But even then, it is a moving target. That is because herd immunity is dependent on infectivity (R0), and with the doubling of infectivity (R0) between the ancestral variant to the Delta variant, the Herd Immunity Threshold (HIT) increased from maybe 60% to 80% of the population. But with Omicron being significantly more infectious, it is likely that HIT will have increased to maybe 90% - a level that we are unlikely to achieve even with natural immunity. Certainly not with the leaky vaccines in use.
Even if we could vaccinate enough to theoretically get to herd immunity (we can’t come close because the vaccines are so leaky that they don’t appreciably help), it still wouldn't matter. We have never eliminated a single respiratory virus through herd immunity. Never. One reason is that they typically can jump species boundaries with apparent ease. We have already found this virus present in a number of other species, including domestic dogs and cats. And these other species provide a reservoir for the virus to survive in. Since it jumped to these species from humans (assuming, as is highly likely, that the virus was fabricated by Chinese researchers in Wuhan), it can easily jump back. This is why flu viruses can never be stomped out - because different variants are always jumping back to humans from other species, and in particular, from human domesticated species (e.g. pigs and chickens).
My view is that we should probably view the Omicron variant as closer to a traditional vaccine, than a deadly threat to human life. Despite smoke and mirrors deployed by those pushing vaccines, having had the virus, having survived it, and having acquired natural immunities, appears to provide far better protection against future infection than these novel gene therapies recently redefined as vaccines. Because that is what many traditional vaccines are - weakened strains of the target virus.
As a strategy to end the pandemic, Fauci’s vaccine only approach has been a huge failure costing hundreds of thousands of lives in America. The strategy should focus on vaccines for the vulnerable and therapeutics for everyone else. But Fauci won’t push therapeutics until his sponsors in Big Pharma develop a therapeutic drug to continue the upward trajectory of company stock price.
Omicron is a gift from above, ending the pandemic. The establishment will respond with the most Draconian measures to date.
tim in vermont said, "But South Africa got through it pretty much with the J&J vaccine and Pfizer."
South Africa is estimated to be about 24% "fully vaccinated".
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/south-africa/
Omicron is said to be at least partially "vaccine evasive". So, I would think South Africa "got through it" for reasons other than J&J and Pfizer.
I have friends, a married couple, who got their boosters over the weekend. She has a life-long history of epilepsy, controlled in recent years by medication that leaves a strong tremor in her hands. She has not had even a minor seizure in four years, nor a major one in more than ten.
She had two seizures, one minor and one major, within a few hours of her booster shot, in contrast to no seizures after the first two shots. As they were boosted at a grocery store, this event will never find its way into the adverse reporting database VAERS. She will never be known except to family and friends as a COVID vaccine statistic.
We took the vaccine, both doses plus booster to protect against severe illness, hospitalisation and death. So what if I get Covid? The vaccines will have done the job I expected.
gadfly said...
Sarah Palin has said ... “Do you remember Dr. Fauci said that if you had Covid, you would be naturally immune?” ...
Fauci responded [to a question about whether immunity acquired from infection is sufficient or perhaps even superior to vaccine-acquired immunity]: ... That’s something that we’re going to have to discuss regarding the durability of the response.”
So, no Sarah, you can't recall what wasn't said.
gadfly, let me help you. When Fauci says we're going to have to discuss "the durability of the response," he is saying infection does provide natural immunity, but there is a question about how long it lasts. By the way, there also is a question about how long protection acquired from vaccines lasts. So as between you and Sarah, Sarah's is a more accurate rendition of the facts.
Someone please show me a study that proves that masks work. I've read every study that I can find, about 15 in all. And I mean read. Not read about the studies, but read the studies. I am not an MD, but have a background in engineering and science and know how to read a scientific study.
The "best" I can find show a reduction in infections of between 3% and 11%. Worse than any Russian or Chinese vaccine. You know,the ones we make fun of.
I put "best" in quotation marks because, to the best of my recollection, none of the studies has been peer reviewed. And all seem to have significant weaknesses. Yes, even the vaunted Bangladesh study.
this is very confusing -
does "current" variant only spread by completely replace previous variants ?
are do they not all spreading through the population?
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