Althouse: "Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-Vice President Joseph R. Biden, whom Gruden called a 'nervous clueless pussy.'"

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"Gruden also criticized President Obama during his re-election campaign in 2012, as well as then-Vice President Joseph R. Biden, whom Gruden called a 'nervous clueless pussy.'"

Oh, no! You can't do that!

I'm reading "Raiders Coach Resigns After Homophobic and Misogynistic Emails/In emails detailed by The New York Times, Raiders Coach Jon Gruden casually used misogynistic and homophobic language to disparage people" (NYT).

Interesting to see that now "clueless pussy" is fit to print.

৬৬টি মন্তব্য:

gahrie বলেছেন...: If I was still watching the NFL, this would be the final straw to make me stop watching it.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০২ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...: Speech Crime! Speech Crime! Bring the FBI and CNN! - the worst offense of all is criticizing Chi Com Joe.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০২ AM
Owen বলেছেন...: We have entered an impossible environment. It combines (1) hypersensitivity (outrage is based on a standard set by the most hysterical self-appointed “victim”) (2) perfect and ineradicable recording of every word and gesture since the Internet began and (3) instant and global mobilization of grievance-mongering online crowds. It is both a way to destroy rivals and gain prestige; but also a source of cruel entertainment, like bear-baiting or cock-fighting.

I see no way out.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০৫ AM
Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves বলেছেন...: Our nation is circling down the toilet fast - thanks to to the corrupt leftwing assholes who want to trash FREEDOM OF SPEECH.

Why are Gruden's private e-mails being looked at? Is this the Soviet Union?

We should know what Joe-Potemkin-Asshole Biden has said in PRIVATE. I want every e-mail and correspondence from the last 40+ years of one Joseph R Biden, released. Then - fire him for his freedom of speech.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০৫ AM
Dave Begley বলেছেন...: This incident only confirms that the Left totally owns the sports business.

Someone at ESPN leaked this out and Gruden is now out millions of dollars. Which, in a way, is fine. The whole professional sports industry needs to be brought to its knees: MLB, NBA and NFL.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০৬ AM
Kevin বলেছেন...: Raiders Coach Jon Gruden casually used misogynistic and homophobic language to disparage people"

So has Joe Biden.

So has Barack Obama, for that matter.

Which of these things is not like the other?; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:০৬ AM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: behind the paywall, so I'll just make this aside...

he got fired now for "
"Homophobic and Misogynistic" remarks in non-public emails?

but apparently a more public: 'nervous clueless pussy.'

wasn't Homophobic and Misogynistic then?

he got fired because he lost. the excuse is an excuse; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:১৯ AM
Temujin বলেছেন...: You could see this coming. But now I have to ask: Who among us could have their emails, written words, spoken words, and thoughts reviewed going back as far as you've lived, and come out pure? Anyone? Any. Single. Person? I'm a pretty nice person, but I can assure you I've used every conceivable name for every kind of person at some point in my life. And I'm pretty sure I've been called most of those names as well. Somehow I made it through. Hell, I remember when Lenny Bruce, George Carlin, and Don Rickles used to make people think and laugh by using those names.

The endgame for all of this has to find it's way...and soon. Otherwise no one is safe, everyone is suspect, and only your Government can decide who is guilty and who is innocent. And folks, I don't think you want to turn your life over to them. Once they look to you as a target, they only need to go through emails, speeches, talks, and written words to find your obvious guilt.

Time for a strike. Time to quit playing along with it.
Atlas is about to shrug.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:২২ AM
mccullough বলেছেন...: Something wrong with a league whose best player is 44 years old.

Makes Millennials look like nervous, clueless pussies.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:২৬ AM
wendybar বলেছেন...: AND??? When do we get to cancel the progressives who said worse about Trump??; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৩২ AM
wendybar বলেছেন...: The truth hurts regressive Progressives...that's why they have to lie to us all the time.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৩৩ AM
rhhardin বলেছেন...: Clueless cunt is still forbidden, but of course doesn't mean the same thing. Pussy would refer to weakness in the face of determination, where cunt just means female-stereotypical interests against the general welfare.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৩৩ AM
Michael K বলেছেন...: Gruden sounds like my kind of guy. Probably better off without the Raiders.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৩৫ AM
jaydub বলেছেন...: Okay, so he was accurate in his assessment, just used some problematic language to describe it.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৪৩ AM
rhhardin বলেছেন...: Queer ought to be replaced by fudge-packer LGBTFP in honor of Melvin's speech to the queer guy in As Good as It Gets

"Do you realize that I work at home? Do you like to be interrupted when you are dancing around in your little garden? Well, I work all the time. So never, never again interrupt me. Okay? I mean, never. Not 30 years from now... not if there's fire. Not even if you hear a thud from inside my home and a week later there's a smell from in there that can only come from a decaying body and you have to hold a hanky against your face because the stench is so thick you think you're going to faint, even then don't come knocking or, if it's election night and you're excited and want to celebrate because some fudge-packer you dated has been elected the first queer President of the United States... and he's going to put you up in Camp David and you just want to share the moment with someone... don't knock... not on this door. Not for anything. Got me. Sweetheart?"

which counts as one of the movie great moments.

The public world is very frightened of everything these days. It's women wanting everything to be nice, and being the target audience of the MSM.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৪৭ AM
Fernandinande বলেছেন...: Worst of all was insulting the Michellin[sic] Tire company, most of whose employees are Indigenous peoples of Europe.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৫১ AM
Maynard বলেছেন...: If Gruden had written that Trump was a thick lipped co--sucker, he would be exalted by the woke Democrats.

That said, he should know enough to keep his angry thoughts off of emails.

I don't feel sorry for him. He will likely collect most of his guaranteed $100 million contract. That is some serious "Fuck You" money.; ১২/১০/২১, ১০:৫৮ AM
Sebastian বলেছেন...: "Interesting to see that now "clueless pussy" is fit to print."

Does it fall under misogynistic?

But shouldn't a progressive man take pride in being associated with a female body part?

Gruden was too respectful towards Slow Joe. I personally think Biden is a clueless d*$&.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:০৬ AM
rhhardin বলেছেন...: The replacement Rush show goes into this but doesn't quote any of the bad words so you have no idea what they're talking about. It's sort of an inverse Carlin seven bad words.

Make it a charade like game, trying to guess the bad word from clues.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:১৮ AM
Yancey Ward বলেছেন...: The "clueless pussy" was Chuck.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:২৫ AM
Dave Begley বলেছেন...: "Why are Gruden's private e-mails being looked at? Is this the Soviet Union?"

No, we way worse than the old USSR. Now we have people getting destroyed for failing to vax.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৩০ AM
rcocean বলেছেন...: Its amazing how after screeching about THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY for years, the liberal/left NOW believes no one should have private thougths or communications. Its astounding that the NFL Fired a Coach because of what he emailed his boss in private.

Make no mistake this isn't happening because the NFL Commissioner decided it. Its going on because the NFL OWNERS want it. Ultimately the Commissioner is their puppet. Unfortunately, the Center-Right is always dumb and wants to think Billionaires are on our side, or if they're not, its because they're STUPID.

A majority of the NFL Billionaire Owners are pushing this SJW Nonsense. That's why its allowed to happen.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৩৩ AM
Mark বলেছেন...: Amazing, to think that using crude racist stereotypes in a league full of black players could pose a problem. Who could have seen that coming, besides everyone?

It takes a special kind of stupid to use your work email (or the recipients work email) to write crude or offensive commentary.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৪৪ AM
Skeptical Voter বলেছেন...: In our new Stasi led world, show me the man and I'll show you the thought crime. And I'll make him pay.

Signed Merrick Garland and the Wokesters.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৪৭ AM
BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...: I bet Hillary's emails, (30,00 or so), hold a lot juicy stuff. She's got the vocabulary that'd make a rapper blush. Guess nobody is looking for hers.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৪৯ AM
I'm Not Sure বলেছেন...: "Otherwise no one is safe, everyone is suspect, and only your Government can decide who is guilty and who is innocent."

I think I remember reading something just like this before. It was supposedly fiction.

“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৫১ AM
rightguy বলেছেন...: Good Lord, these are private emails we are talking about, here. He didn't publicly say these things or do anything to anybody. Gruden has been cancelled for a thought crime.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৫২ AM
BUMBLE BEE বলেছেন...: Didn't a Steeler's linebacker once say that the NFL changed the rule so that quarterbacks could now wear dresses? Well we're almost there.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৫৪ AM
JaimeRoberto বলেছেন...: Shouldn't Colbert be fired for calling Trump Putin's cock holster? That's pretty homophobic too. Just trying to figure out what the rules are here.; ১২/১০/২১, ১১:৫৫ AM
Big Mike বলেছেন...: Add thin-skinned and petty to the long list of Joe Biden’s faults. Donald Trump was thin-skinned, and could be petty at times, but he was never this bad.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:০৬ PM
Howard বলেছেন...: Loose finger tips sinks ships; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:০৮ PM
mikee বলেছেন...: I, for one, prefer to use obsolete insults from previous centuries, to avoid such accusations of phobias and -isms. Call somebody a flibbertigibbet, or not worth a standing tuppenny, and you may get odd looks or even questions, but you won't be accused of misogyny.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:০৯ PM
wendybar বলেছেন...: When are they going to start looking at everybody elses e-mails that they sent years ago?? Including the players?? There would be NOBODY working if they did. They would ALL get fired for offending somebody We live in upside down world.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৩১ PM
holdfast বলেছেন...: What happens when the NFL finds out about some of the homophobic and misogynistic lyrics in Marshall Mathers’ various songs? Isn’t he part of their halftime show for the Superb Owl this season?

Of course they also have those paragons a virtue Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৩৪ PM
Chest Rockwell বলেছেন...: The ESPN reaction to all of this has been hilarious. You have Randy Moss crying on air followed by his co-host crying with him. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZs-f5CpOpM

It's embarrassing.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৪৪ PM
Rabel বলেছেন...: "Why are Gruden's private e-mails being looked at?"

Because he was corresponding with a Washington Redskins official who was using his Redskins corporate email account. The team owns those and the league has access.

Stupidity by both men.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৪৪ PM
wendybar বলেছেন...: JaimeRoberto said...
Shouldn't Colbert be fired for calling Trump Putin's cock holster? That's pretty homophobic too. Just trying to figure out what the rules are here.

10/12/21, 11:55

Jaime, Jaime, Jaime. If you haven't noticed by now.....Colbert is a Progressive. Progressives make the rules and can do whatever they want, whenever they want. Trump is Hitler to them, so it is okay to be disrespectful to THAT President using homophobic terms....but don't YOU dare try doing it, or you will be cancelled just like Gruden has been.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৪৫ PM
Paul From Minneapolis বলেছেন...: Main headline at ESPN right now:

"John Gruden is gone, mow the NFL should get rid of those who enabled him."

It links to a column by "award-winning" (of course) columnist William Rhoden, formerly of the Times, now with something called The Undefeated.

So it's not just private emails from any time in the past. It's anyone who received an objectionable and didn't respond appropriately in the view of William Rhoden. They should be destroyed too.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৪৭ PM
madAsHell বলেছেন...: Is Gruden running for President??; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৫৭ PM
Unknown বলেছেন...: Corporations are afraid of losing millennial dollars. That is what is driving this current insanity. No one cares or pays attention to the trans movement except young impressionable minds. And their minds are impressed upon by the loudest voices, which are coming from the mentally ill "social justice" crowd.

Rhhardin is right, it somehow stems from young women and their tendency to filter everything through the empathy lens. Young men just want women to like them so they go along with whatever women believe.

Corporations don't give a fig about older people, because they know older outrage does not lead to boycotts. That and older people don't spend money.; ১২/১০/২১, ১২:৫৮ PM
Greg The Class Traitor বলেছেন...: I'm reading "Raiders Coach Resigns After Homophobic and Misogynistic Emails/In emails detailed by The New York Times, Raiders Coach Jon Gruden casually used misogynistic and homophobic language to disparage people" (NYT).

Cool!

There's a whole bunch of leftists who "casually use misogynistic and homophobic language to disparage people" on the Right.

Let's get all of them fired; ১২/১০/২১, ১:১৬ PM
Drago বলেছেন...: rcocean: "Its amazing how after screeching about THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT TO PRIVACY for years, the liberal/left NOW believes no one should have private thougths or communications."

Fen's Law: The Left/LLR-Left/NeverTrump-Left doesnt actually believe a single thing they have lectured us about forever.

See LLR Chuck as an Althouse blog example.; ১২/১০/২১, ১:২৫ PM
Iman বলেছেন...: “…as well as then-Vice President Joseph R. Biden, whom Gruden called a 'nervous clueless pussy.'"

As opposed to the clueless crack- face pussy soldier Hunter Biden…; ১২/১০/২১, ১:৪৪ PM
retail lawyer বলেছেন...: And Biden has tried so hard for so long to be a tough guy. Challenging an 80 year old guy to a pushup contest while campaigning. Washing his muscle car in loafers with no socks. . . So clearly not a pussy!; ১২/১০/২১, ২:২৩ PM
Joe Smith বলেছেন...: Now dig through the private emails of every NFL coach going back ten years.

I think you'd have to fire every single one...; ১২/১০/২১, ২:৫২ PM
Skeptical Voter বলেছেন...: I just can not figure out why Gruden held back when he was writing about Scranton Joe.; ১২/১০/২১, ৪:২০ PM
Amadeus 48 বলেছেন...: ."The endgame for all of this has to find its way...and soon. Otherwise no one is safe, everyone is suspect, and only your Government can decide who is guilty and who is innocent."

I disagree with the last part. Only the government can decide who gets exposed. They know we are all guilty.

Time to re-read Darkness at Noon.; ১২/১০/২১, ৪:৪১ PM
Bunkypotatohead বলেছেন...: May be related to this news account of a press release:

"As Pride Month comes to a close, the NFL has released a new commercial that makes clear its support and embrace of the LGBTQ+ community.

The 30-second spot begins with the line, "Football is gay" as light cheering plays in the background.

"Football is lesbian. Football is beautiful. Football is queer. Football is life. Football is exciting. Football is culture. Football is transgender. Football is queer. Football is heart. Football is power. Football is tough. Football is bisexual. Football is strong. Football is freedom. Football is American. Football is accepting. Football is everything. Football is for everyone."

I guess it's "accepting" of only so much.; ১২/১০/২১, ৬:১৬ PM
Mutaman বলেছেন...: "Interesting to see that now "clueless pussy" is fit to print."

Think the precedent was set when that fellow said "Grab 'em by the pussy. You can do anything" .; ১২/১০/২১, ৬:৫৩ PM
Howard বলেছেন...: He was a shitty coach who was hired on a record 10-year hundred million dollar contract that was a huge mistake. I'm sure raiders owner Mark Davis requested the comb through of the emails to see if they could find something they could get rid of the guy for cause so they didn't have to finish paying out the money and be able to move on.; ১২/১০/২১, ৭:২৫ PM
Darkisland বলেছেন...: Why is "pussy" in this context misogynistic?

I've always understood it to be another way of saying timid, like a small cat. Or a "'fraidy cat". I've never understood it to have anything to do with female genitalia. It just doesn't make sense that way.

But as a timid little kitten, a 'fraidy cat, it makes perfect sense.; ১২/১০/২১, ৭:৩০ PM
Maynard বলেছেন...: AARON RODGERS said that Gruden's opinions "don't have a place in the game".

Wrong thinking and bad opinions. It is amazing how quickly the college educated liberals have turned into Soviets.

We are entering a Brave New World and I am happy to be retired and financially self-sufficient. By the time I pass from the earth, America will be an unrecognizable police state.

The usual suspects will be happy about that. Orwell will not be fiction here.; ১২/১০/২১, ৭:৪৭ PM
Readering বলেছেন...: Remember, they were not looking at Gruden's emails per se. They were looking at the company emails of Washington Football Team executives implicated in widespread workplace impropriety. Unfortunately for Gruden, he apparently writes so much stupid shit all around that his email exchanges with a single corporate account are enough to force him to resign for misogyny, homophobia and racism. But this could be just scratching the surface of all the Shitshow emails by folks in NFL. 650,000 WFT corporate emails under review in the investigation.; ১২/১০/২১, ৭:৪৭ PM
Maynard বলেছেন...: I forget to mention that all traces of John Gruden will be erased from memory. He is a Soviet-style non-person unless they want to bring up an example of a White man who wants to put y'all back in chains.; ১২/১০/২১, ৭:৫০ PM
PJ57 বলেছেন...: We need to create a separate America. One where values in existence for a thousand years are immediately malign.; ১২/১০/২১, ৮:২৬ PM
Lurker21 বলেছেন...: Gruden's in trouble now.

Joe is waiting for him behind the gym for when school gets out.; ১২/১০/২১, ৯:১২ PM
Amadeus 48 বলেছেন...: You have to be careful with e-mail. Unlike telephone calls, you don't have to wonder whether you are being recorded. You are.

We all know that the NSA had Hillary's 30,000 deleted e-mails.; ১২/১০/২১, ৯:১৪ PM
DanTheMan বলেছেন...: >> AARON RODGERS said that Gruden's opinions "don't have a place in the game".

Game, Aaron? It's not a game. Here is a list of what it is now. Please note that "game" is not on the list:

"Football is lesbian. Football is beautiful. Football is queer. Football is life. Football is exciting. Football is culture. Football is transgender. Football is queer. Football is heart. Football is power. Football is tough. Football is bisexual. Football is strong. Football is freedom. Football is American. Football is accepting. Football is everything. Football is for everyone."

How a game be lesbian? Or is it a hate crime to ask questions like that?; ১৩/১০/২১, ১২:২৮ AM
Jaq বলেছেন...: I like what Scott Adams recommends, that the person who leaks private emails that run afoul of these norms, but reveal no lawbreaking, should be considered the 'author' of same. We are facing an East Germany type of situation if we don't come up with something.; ১৩/১০/২১, ৬:৪০ AM
Amadeus 48 বলেছেন...: I think the NFL is very aware that their business inflicts early death and mental incapacity on their workers. They’ll do anything to signal their virtue and direct the public’s gaze away from their profiteering at the expense of their mostly black workforce. Also, Gruden got toorich a contract and the Raiders wanted to retrade. Mission accomplished.; ১৩/১০/২১, ৭:২৯ AM
Lurker21 বলেছেন...: The p-word: which came first, the reference to women's anatomy or to weak, cowardly men? Most likely the former. It is curious, though, that today "pussy" can also be applied to women who are considered weak and cowardly. Op-ed writers can now discuss whether applying it that way also constitutes misogyny or female self-hatred or whether the insult has transcended its origins.

"A nervous, clueless pussy": the word that stands out there is "nervous." Biden is clearly clueless and you can call him a "pussy" if you want, but he's actually quite brazen and unashamed, isn't he? What was seen as nerves might actually have been an early sign that Biden was having trouble putting his words together coherently.; ১৩/১০/২১, ৯:৩৩ AM
tolkein বলেছেন...: Using work emails is very dangerous. But sacking him for 10 year old emails? Aren't people protected against unreasonable searches? This says they were looking for reasons to sack him, and the emails were a plausible excuse. I hop ehis employers pay! And I don't watch NFL. Why would I? We've got rugby, and football - the real beautiful game - and cricket to watch and enjoy.; ১৩/১০/২১, ১২:০৯ PM
Amadeus 48 বলেছেন...: "Using work emails is very dangerous. But sacking him for 10 year old emails?"

It is even better: when he wrote the e-mails, he wasn't working for the NFL or any team. It was his private e-mail account, and he was an employee of ESPN writing to an executive of what is now known as the Washington Football Team (then known as the Washington Redskins). They are sacking him for thoughtcrime committed when he was not an NFL or Raiders employee.

But as I said above, his real crime was too high a pay packet coupled with poor results on the field. I suspect the owners of the Raiders used this as a pretext to fire him. Meanwhile, the NFL is glad to get a chance to signal their its virtue, given the way they exploit their (mostly black) workforce.

BLM + head injuries - moral compass = NFL.; ১৩/১০/২১, ২:৩১ PM
PM বলেছেন...: Criticizing Obama is unforgivable - like presumption and despair for Catholics.; ১৩/১০/২১, ২:৩৬ PM
Gojuplyr831@gmail.com বলেছেন...: The Washington Football Team is under investigation for it's toxic work environment. This includes Dan Snyder arranging for a camera being put in the cheerleaders dressing room. But Gruden's 10 year old emails are what is released.

I trust the NFL has agreements with the half time performers for the Super Bowl mnot to use offensive language?; ১৪/১০/২১, ১২:১১ AM
Robert Thompson বলেছেন...: I always found Chucky to be overrated as a head coach. The way the media was always fawning over him was too much. He was called the quarterback whisperer as if he was the greatest head coach in history. The man was part of one Super Bowl winning team. But the way the media brownnosed him one would've thought Jon Gruden was on Bill Belichick's level.
I'm not surprised at the revelations about Gruden's poisonous emails. Good riddance Chucky.; ২২/৩/২৩, ৯:৪০ PM