"They’ve already written it off. They said that case is closed. If that were the opposite, that case would be going on for years and years, and it would not be pretty.... Nobody knows who that man [was]... If that were the opposite way, that man would be all over. He would be the most well-known — and I believe I can say ‘man,’ because I believe I know exactly who it is — but he would be the most well-known person in this country, in the world."
Said Donald Trump, quoted in "Trump says ‘there was no reason’ for officer to shoot rioter who stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6" (WaPo) ("Trump made the remarks during an event in Bedminster, N.J., where he announced he is filing lawsuits against U.S. social media companies following their suspensions of his accounts.... The companies cited the former president’s incitement of violence in the aftermath of the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol by a pro-Trump mob as a reason for his suspension").
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Terry writes:
"She was carrying a backpack and trying to get into a central area. If she had been carrying a bomb we would be asking today why she wasn’t shot. [the Israelis would have shot her before she got in the building]"
MikeR writes:
"@Terry "She was carrying a backpack and trying to get into a central area. If she had been carrying a bomb we would be asking today why she wasn’t shot. [the Israelis would have shot her before she got in the building]"
"This is a pretty common situation for police, right? Someone is doing something that might be threatening, and you don't have time to sort it out properly.
"Here the aftermath was a bunch of tourist types, running around taking selfies. I think in an analogous situation in my Baltimore inner city, the cop who shot the person who "looked like he might be a threat, he had a backpack, how was I to know there was nothing in it!" would be in a lot of trouble.
"Trayvon Martin was way more threatening, and so are a lot of people who scare cops. Police are expected to make shooting to kill a last resort. They can't do it because there might be a problem otherwise. It goes hard for them if it turns out they made a snap judgment that was thoroughly wrong and perhaps paranoid. Especially when it seems that all his colleagues made the opposite decision."
Temujin writes:
"The entire incident pisses me off. Not so much the attack and trespass of the Capitol, but the aftermath. The lack of an actual objective investigation. The lack of public access to actual information (14,000 hours of video still not released to the public?). There are videos that *do* show the Capital Police opening up gates, opening up doors and waving people on in. WTH?
"IF Ashli Babbit had been a Black woman, you can be sure that the officer's name would be known and his career would be over. Probably his life as a free man would be over.
"There is so much we do not know about what took place there. And why is it that the majority of Americans look at this as a large protest that got way out of hand to become a riot, while those who own the narrative describe it as on a level of Pearl Harbor and/or 9/11? An insurrection (without guns), a terrible day that still has Democratic Congresspeople going to get counseling to calm their inner fright.
"When we had riots that burned down city blocks all over the nation last summer, with looting, raping, murders, and complete lawlessness, these same narrative writers told us it was all peaceful protesting and that we were racist to claim it was a riot. Now that we acknowledge that January 6 was a riot, we're told...no, no, no- this one was an Insurrection and akin to Pearl Harbor.
"It's not only absurd, it's Government Approved Bullshit."
Robert writes:
"Terry says she was justifiably shot because "[s]he was carrying a backpack and trying to get into a central area."
"Nothing to indicate she was armed (she wasn't), and she was 10 feet away. No need to approach to check the backpack, just fire at will. Seriously? How many BLM or Antifa could have been shot under those rules of engagement?
"Good to know what the new rules are!
"PS -- Reference to Israeli practice as justification presumes that Capitol Police were dealing with long-standing death cults like Hamas or Palestinian Jihad, instead of Bison Man and his wholly-unarmed fellow travelers."
Lars brings the sarcasm:
"Terry writes: "She was carrying a backpack and trying to get into a central area. If she had been carrying a bomb we would be asking today why she wasn’t shot. [the Israelis would have shot her before she got in the building]"
"I'm with you Terry. Should be SOP for all police departments for all demonstrations. If they are carrying a backpack..open fire."
another old lawyer writes:
"Temujin concluded "It's not only absurd, it's Government Approved Bullshit."
"Yes, and it's also entirely consistent with one of the clear confirmations from the pandemic lockdowns. (Hopefully, not a lesson many hadn't already learned.) Namely, there's a difference in treatment between those making the rules and their close allies, and the rest of us. Just as when the lockdown rules didn't apply to Gavin Newsom when he wants to hang with lobbyists friends at a restaurant shut down under his orders, or Nancy Pelosi when she wants her hair styled at a salon similarly shut down, circumstances that might threaten "made" people result in vastly different treatment and the potential for more severe consequences than far greater real physical attacks and personal danger that you and I may experience. Doubly so, if the alleged perpetrators are aligned with the political party of the prosecutor (Biden's DOJ, DAs in Portland, Seattle, and Minneapolis).
"So not at all surprising that those who make the rules see January 6th as a huge defining moment, while simultaneously ignoring and dismissing (literally, in the case of the local DAs) the previous summer's rioting, looting, arson, injuries, and deaths.
"I'd call it "Justice is Blind Bullshit" or maybe more technically, "Equal Protection Bullshit.""
MJordan writes:
"Terri and others are missing Trump’s point. It’s not whether or not she should have been shot; it’s how the shooting has been covered up by collusion between government and media. That’s the story and he’s dead right. It’s scandalous."
Gavin writes:
"I would add that living in the bay area no progressive that I know thinks the "insurrection" is worth any attention and are more concerned about the general lawlessness and dysfunction with homelessness and out of control crime. There is a disconnect between Washington DC liberals and the rest of the country. They may enjoy fundraising off this nonsense but they aren't even fooling their own followers any more."
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