Isn't it racist to require vaccination passports when so many Black citizens don't have government IDs? If you don't have ID, how can you prove it was you who got vaccinated?
— Scott Adams (@ScottAdamsSays) April 1, 2021
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Isn't this how to do Critical Race Theory? You always ask — about anything — Isn't it racist? That's the method.
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Isn't the method, "it's racist"?
They have an easy explanation for Adams: “Shut up."
Welcome to the party, Scott. I've been noting this for days.
Pretty much. But the true magic of CTR is that the goal posts for what is racist can be moved in either direction without much justification. So it's possible that requiring an ID for an activity can be racist and not racist depending on your needs.
it's racist to have requirements for anybody.
Not even a joke that the best way to get these tin-pot tyrants to do a 180 on vaccine passports is to suggest that they be required to vote.
"Isn't the method, "it's racist"?"
Done well, it's an inquiry that begins with that presumption. You do a what-if-you-had-to-argue exercise — the best you can. And then you ought to look at your argument critically, but maybe you don't openly share your self-critique. You demand that other people — the longtime beneficiaries of a world that you presume is permeated with racism — rebut the presumption.
Scott Adams is inviting the inquiry, somewhat satirically, but also seriously, and he's sketching out the argument that it's racist. That now requires the other people — the white people advocating vaccine passports — to step up to the work of rebutting the presumption. They must meet the burden of proving that it is not racist.
"Isn't this how to do Critical Race Theory? You always ask — about anything — Isn't it racist? That's the method."
If you still need to ask, you are not sufficiently woke.
Vaccination passports are Jim Eagle.
If you don't have ID, how can you prove it was you who got vaccinated?
A tattoo.
What Scott Adams is doing is also a trick to force opponents of voter ID to abandon their assertions that requiring voter ID is racist. They're in a bind. Just make the bind clear and stand back and watch the painful writhing. Then you can make fun of that. He's a humorist.
When do we get to Post-Modern Critical Race Theory?
I am Laslo.
Deconstruct the deconstruction.
I am Laslo.
Of course Adams is being sarcastic. The other day on his podcast he mentioned a reporter who was looking for people in Georgia without an ID in light of the recently passed vote integrity law that has the Democrats so upset.
isn't it Racist, to allow Brown people into the country without vaccine passports;
but to Require them for Black people?
Doesn't Critical Race Theory say, that vaccine passports should Only be required for whites?
"Done well, it's an inquiry"
Jeez. The point of CRT is to block inquiry. Done well, it scares opponents into cowering submission.
"And then you ought to look at your argument critically"
The point of CRT is to look at other people's "arguments" critically. The better to defeat them, and impose the dominant ideology.
There may have been a handful of academically-minded CRT advocates back in the day, but not now. To treat it as anything approaching "inquiry" is laughable--or worse.
What Scott Adams is doing is also a trick to force opponents of voter ID to abandon their assertions that requiring voter ID is racist. They're in a bind. Just make the bind clear and stand back and watch the painful writhing. Then you can make fun of that. He's a humorist.
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AA, when Scott or others point out the obvious contradictions in the ruling class, they simply ignore the peons' arguments. Usually with a bonus point of calling the arguer a white supremacist.
Sadly, this sort of tables-turning, turnabout approach doesn't work with the left. They will just refuse to see it.
Who/whom.
Oh, I thought he was taking the "it's racist!" from the angle that African-Americans are more hesitant about vaccines in general: https://time.com/5925074/black-americans-covid-19-vaccine-distrust/ and this was essentially the government, yet again, telling "black and brown bodies" what they must do.
Stop looking for racism and start looking for malevolence.
The Los Angeles Times "journolists" spend 90% of their newsprint and ink mewling and whining about racism and inequities of one sort or another. One of their favorite topics in the pandemic is that the virus is racist--effecting communities of color more than anyone else. And then another topic is that distribution of vaccines is also racist and inequitable in that communities of color don't get equal access to the vaccines. And then another favorite whinge is that people in communities of color are afraid to take the vaccine--after all Kamala Harris told them in September that she "wouldn't trust a vaccine from Trump".
Now there might be some light at the end of the vaccine tunnel---now that the Biden administration has taken credit for creating the vaccine.
But for the moment---and with the current actual vaccination administration figures, why you betcha--it's racist to ask for a vaccine passport! I'll read that in the Los Angeles Times tomorrow morning.
"But the true magic of CTR is that the goal posts for what is racist can be moved in either direction without much justification. So it's possible that requiring an ID for an activity can be racist and not racist depending on your needs."
All of progressive theory rejects the concept of analogy. Each situation is new and unique.
"That now requires the other people — the white people advocating vaccine passports — to step up to the work of rebutting the presumption. They must meet the burden of proving that it is not racist."
No, they just need 51% of whatever decision makers to ignore any similarities. The distinction is that this is for your health, and that's all that matters this time.
Aren't vaccination passports a HIPPA violation?
"Aren't vaccination passports a HIPPA violation?"
--It Matters. You have to show proof of vaccination for some things (like going to school). The question is whether there's a compelling enough reason that I should have to show my papers for the various roadblocks that the government or private business is going to require the vaccine passports for. My gut is to say no, it isn't, but that's my general gut reaction whenever the government makes a power grab.
“What Scott Adams is doing is also a trick to force opponents of voter ID to abandon their assertions that requiring voter ID is racist. They're in a bind. Just make the bind clear and stand back and watch the painful writhing. Then you can make fun of that. He's a humorist.”
So, yesterday Atlanta based Delta Airlines, which requires that all of its customers present state approved photo IDs before serving them, got all butt hurt calling the GA legislature racist for requiring photo IDs to vote. That seems to strongly suggest that Delta is racist for requiring photo IDs to fly on their planes.
CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project. But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted.
CRT can be done well.
I don't think so. Cite?
The existence of proof of vaccination does nothing to prevent disease spread. The fact of individual vaccination is what is essential, not demonstrating that to others. This idea of proof of vaccination for anything other than school is ridiculous.
When do we get to Post-Modern Critical Race Theory?
Fuck that... when do we get to Post-Post-Modern Critical Race Theory?
He's right though.
how can you prove it was you who got vaccinated?
I'm just gonna leave the band-aid on.
“One of their favorite topics in the pandemic is that the virus is racist--effecting communities of color more than anyone else. And then another topic is that distribution of vaccines is also racist and inequitable in that communities of color don't get equal access to the vaccines.”
I have been saying for some time that the coronavirus was racist. First, and foremost, specific comorbidities greatly increase its lethality, and several of those, notably obesity and Type II Diabetes appear to be socioeconomically related to ethnicity and race. People of western African descent seem to be esp susceptible to these comorbidities.
But there may be more. The ChiCom Han, who very likely created the coronavirus in one of their Wuhan virology labs, seem to look down upon and hate everyone else. At the same time, the virus appears to be less devastating to Orientals, then Caucasians, and most devastating to Negroids. Was it engineered this way? Or do the Chinese just have a higher natural tolerance to the bat viruses in their vicinity?
Oh, and the obvious. We all had to present state approved photo IDs to get the COVID-19 vaccine. Indeed, the list of acceptable documents was similar to the one for flying, etc. Racist, by definition.
Dang it! The band-aid is probably racist too, now I think about it. It's cracker colored.
It tells you what the real motivation regarding voter ID is when they want to ban requiring it for voting rather than make ID easier for people to obtain.
Ann Althouse said...
"CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project."
I laughed so hard I spilled my coffee! Yes, CRT is a great theory if only basic human nature didn't get in the way! Yes, socialism works great if only people didn't get in the way! Welcome to the thinking of every tyrant in history! The final destination involves cattle cars and ovens...
critical race theory is about destroying institutions, because free speech and self defense and private property is wrong, because 1619,
"Sadly, this sort of tables-turning, turnabout approach doesn't work with the left. They will just refuse to see it.
It doesn't look like anything to me.
(Amusing that I have to click on the "I'm not a robot" button to post this comment.)
The "hard" version of CRT is everything is racist. You see this with hardcore academics and activists. The shorter version of this is "I hate white people" followed by "I hate America."
The "soft" version of CRT is everything is racist is if it is convenient for it to be so. "Racist" simply becomes a synonym for "things I don't like." This is the version that politicians use regularly but you also see it pretty much anywhere there is some advantage to be gained. Joe Biden is a "soft" CRT user, or at least his handlers who tell him what to say are.
The first type is fanaticism. The second type is bad faith. Both are useless to any reasonable person.
beneficiaries of a world that you presume is permeated with racism
So what. Racism is downstream from culture and tribalism, and both of those are as old as history. CRT is just an aspect of academic tribalism and not every tribe practices the same religion. The usual cure for living in a less successful culture is cultural appropriation.
similarly,
https://dailycaller.com/2021/03/31/nbc-lester-holt-two-sides-equal-weight/
Prof. A @ 8:32: “... . But now that [CRT] is used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted.” Phrasing. “Is getting debased and perverted” should be “has exposed its inherent and ineradicable debasement and perversity.”
There is no fixing CRT or its evil spawn, Social Justice and Identity Politics.
I'm skeptical that CRT could ever be "done well". My (admitably limited) understanding of Critical Race Theory is that it requires some sort of redefinition of the term "White Supremecy". From its Wikipedia article:
CRT is loosely unified by two common themes:
First, that white supremacy exists and maintains power through the law.[6]
Second, that transforming the relationship between law and racial power, as well as achieving racial emancipation and anti-subordination more broadly, are possible.[7]
And by "White Supremecy" they don't mean exactly what most people likely think of. And it seems to embrace ideas that could be fairly categorized as relativism (Storytelling, counter-storytelling, and "naming one's own reality"). Once you get into anything that denies objective truth... well, you've lost me anyway.
Progressive position's illogical, circular thinking and hypocritical, example #9,856,882.
It's so common it is invisible to our betters.
Well Canada requires their citizens to quarantine in a gubmint approved centre that they themselves have to pay for while their Covid status is determined. 1-2k for 3 days.
But no worry if you have Ebola or any other infectious disease. Totally cool. Somehow this must be racist too.
Nonapod @ 9:21: “...Once you get into anything that denies objective truth... well, you've lost me anyway.”. Agree. If you want an academically solid look at CRT and its sister pathologies, from Marxism and the Frankfurt School through Deconstruction, Social Justice and Identity Politics, check out James Lindsay at “New Discourses” and in particular the book he recently co-authored with Helen Pluckrose, “Cynical Theories.”
Ann Althouse said...
Scott Adams is inviting the inquiry, somewhat satirically, but also seriously, and he's sketching out the argument that it's racist. That now requires the other people — the white people advocating vaccine passports — to step up to the work of rebutting the presumption. They must meet the burden of proving that it is not racist.
Adams comments don't require anything do they? In reality people pushing vaccination cards will simply ignore this conflict. Since ID = racist is a fake assertion no one believes (which is why the people who "own" this assertion haven't made it) it will simply not be brought up. The left media will treat this like it treats inconvenient facts: ignore it. Sure this reveals people who make this charge do so as partisan hackery, but anyone paying attention already knows this anyway.
Ann Althouse said...
beyond the academy, [CRT is] getting debased and perverted.
If this were true wouldn't these paragons of virtue be publicly saying so to end the perversion? Since this is not happening can we not conclude they support the current public usage?
It is certainly true that the theoretical existence of some pure core of CRT is irrelevant compared to how it is actually used to influence society.
The "hard" version of CRT is everything is racist.
Apparently that's Althouse's stance, as above:
"Done well, it's an inquiry that begins with that presumption [of racism]. ... You demand that other people[! Ed.] — the longtime beneficiaries of a world that you presume is permeated with racism — rebut the presumption."
Speaking of premises, CRT relies on the false premise that there are no important genetic differences between the races (e.g. Social Construction about 1/3rd down); with that goofy premise, you can view every natural difference as a sign of racism.
Well, except when that natural difference means that some other racial group does better than white people, like black athletes, or Asian crime-rates and income, or Asian and mestizo lifespans...
Everything is racist. Get used to it.
Blacks in this country could each get $1M in reparations tomorrow and the U.S. would still forever be a racist, shitty country in the eyes of millions of our woke citizens.
"Done well, it's an inquiry"
Bullshit. It's a "heads I will tails you lose" pseudo-intellectual exercise in wielding power over others. The unfalsifiable premises, the complete lack of logical consistency, the constant goalpost moving, the unapologetic and unironic claims that refutations are examples of its truth, etc., - all show the glaringly obvious, that this "CRT" idiocy is a juvenile attempt by "scholars" to dress gutter level racism in a cloak of flowery language. Throw this garbage at an audience of craven white progressives and academics, and they'll nod in obedience and get right to work building your campus "anti-racism center" and asking Mr Black Guy X Black Guy with the bow tie how much further he'd like them to bend over.
Ann Althouse said...
CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project. But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted.
Aside from a sentimental attachment to the nice CRT scholars that you knew, what aspects of CRT speak to you in a positive way?
Don't impose your white method on CRT. They will implement it how they choose to do so. You ain't in power anymore.
Say what you mean. Enough with this weaselly questioning.
@Joe Smith
"Blacks in this country could each get $1M in reparations tomorrow and the U.S. would still forever be a racist, shitty country in the eyes of millions of our woke citizens."
You could give black Americans $1M each and they would still be poor, that is how poorly they plan and how poorly they use resource. It would be universally wasted and squandered away by the vast majority of them only for the taxpayer to be greeted with another multi-million request for a handout. In that way it is apt and not unlike the African continent and African countries in general: a never ending money pit for altruism, aid and assistance that results in nothing substantive because the it has nothing to do with the intention of the giver and everything to do with the type of people you're giving it to and the culture that squanders it on shamanistic amulets and cannibal wars with the tribe next door for albino parts and bush meat to cure their HIV.
I am so fucking tired of these quality-of-life reducers. They literally do nothing but take.
An LA Times writer recently made reference to Georgia's proposed voting requirements for "layers of identification," which I inferred was a way of saying voter ID. It's like saying women's reproductive rights when you mean abortion.
now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted
Ideas have real world consequences. And don't be so condescending. This is EXACTLY what the proponents have sought all along. It is working as planned.
You can ask all you want, the key to the power of CRT is that they have the complete power to ignore inconvenient questions. Questions like "Why wasn't Bruce Jenner just one more 'lesbian trapped in a man's body.?"
"CRT scholars" in the academy? Were Nazis "antisemitism scholars" in the Third Reich? If not, what's the difference?
This sort of reminds me of the feminist who noted that the arthouse theories of criticism for the writers of old that they deeply loved ended up destroying those very artists' reputations and standing, when really they were just intended as intellectual games.
If you ask the wrong questions re CRT, you are simply dismissed as a whataboutist. Only they have the power to ask questions and it's all about power. Adams know they are not "on the hook" to answer his question, his real point is that they don't feel any pressure to answer a clearly good question, and I would happily lay odds that no major media outlet ("certain media outlets" in Farmer's words) will address this question.
Ann Althouse said...
CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project. But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted.
4/1/21, 8:32 AM
What an AWESOME April fool's day comment! I bet you "got" some folks with that one!
"But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted."
There's nothing wrong with communism.
It just hasn't been done right...yet.
Ok. April 1st or real? He's right, of course. You are now entering the Twilight Fringe... or is it the Outer Limits?
CRT can be done well.
@Althouse, do you have any evidence to support such a bald assertion? Because based on everything I have seen, the underlying foundation of CRT is the belief that black people are inherently inferior and cannot compete against whites and Asians and Hispanics on a level playing surface in any area except athletics. Having worked with a brilliant black scientist for a period in my career, I reject CRT out of hand.
They have an easy explanation for Adams: “Shut up."
When they feel generous. Remember, they overwhelmingly subscribe to the Pro-Choice, selective, opportunistic, relativistic ("ethical"), ostensibily "secular" religion. Internally, externally, and mutually inconsistent. No shame. No regrets. Just take a knee, bray, and accept their guidance on faith.
CRT assumes diversity dogma. Most people are not bigots.
Is it all people of black, the Hutu, the Tutsi, the post-apartheid progressives of South Africa who lynched people in retributive change?
Having worked with a brilliant black scientist for a period in my career, I reject CRT out of hand.
I know black surgeons and other physicians, most of whom are a credit to the profession. When I was doing premed, I worked with a post-doc from Jamaica who was a great guy and very good scientist. The Bell Curve has a right tail. The black activists and politicians are mostly on the left tail.
You could give black Americans $1M each and they would still be poor, that is how poorly they plan and how poorly they use resource.
No, they'd still be poor because someone will always be poor, it's definitional. For instance, in your hypothetical, the new poverty level would be $1 million.
There are more poor White Americans than there are poor Black Americans. It's just that poor Black people are more visible, both literally and culturally. I agree that poverty largely stems from poor decision making, I disagree that there is anything racial about it.
CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project. But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted.
You cried when Libertarians discussed states' rights, but you approve of CRT?
Seriously?
States' rights is irredeemably racist but CRT is just fine and dandy?
Please explain.
"it's possible that requiring an ID for an activity can be racist and not racist depending on your needs."
It isn't possible to have and not have an ID. If the members of the black community have the ID and smarts needed for vaccination they have the ID and smarts needed for voting on their own. Moreover, Obama passed a rule requiring government photo ID for Medicare/Medicaid. So either the poorest and the oldest members of the black community have government photo ID or they have inequitable access to medical care due to Obama's policies.
Can CRT work sometimes?
I think that CRT Original can work. It does work to say that the black community is 13% of the population and 34% of the abortions and that this has caused the black birthrate to decline below replacement level which is genocide. Then when they say "it's their choice," you say "CRT says would say that's racism." But CRT Marxist has lowered in esteem every institution it has touched. Football, universities, K-12, big cities, the murder rate, the news, the Emmy's- none of them are better off than they were before being affected by CRT Marxist. The same distinction can be seen in BLM Original and BLM Marxist, social movements which paralleled CRT Original and CRT Marxist in time. BLM was enlightening originally as saying something about what was a central issue in the black community but it became an accelerant to CRT Marxist when it went rogue as BLM Marxist. A secular democracy has no foundation in God's plan or in human nature or in a race or in a past or in past laws which it remakes as it sees fit. It's one foundation is free adherence by free citizens to freely achieved consensus.
That now requires the other people — the white people advocating vaccine passports — to step up to the work of rebutting the presumption. They must meet the burden of proving that it is not racist.
So CRT depends upon abandoning the presumption of innocence or good intentions, and assuming the guilt or bad intentions of the accused; and forcing people to defend themselves from unprovoked attacks based on presumption? You support this?
Really?
What Scott Adams is doing is also a trick to force opponents of voter ID to abandon their assertions that requiring voter ID is racist.
OK.
They're in a bind.
Why? By who? Who is going to hold them accountable? The MSM? The Courts? You?
Just make the bind clear and stand back and watch the painful writhing.
There won't be any. The Left has never had any trouble ignoring it's hypocrisies and inconsistencies. BECAUSE NO ONE EVER HOLDS THEM ACCOUNTABLE.
Ask Northam, or Cuomo, or Biden, or Hillary, ......
Ann Althouse said...CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project.
My first reaction was, I'd like to see the evidence for that. But while you are saying it can be done well, you aren't saying anybody has ever actually done it well. You are only saying that you have respect for the original project. Which might just mean the people were sincere.
alanl said...
Ann Althouse said...
"CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project."
I laughed so hard I spilled my coffee! Yes, CRT is a great theory if only basic human nature didn't get in the way! Yes, socialism works great if only people didn't get in the way! Welcome to the thinking of every tyrant in history! The final destination involves cattle cars and ovens...
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I'm with you. Totes.
Any "theory" that explicitly posits that those who offer rebuttals against it---no matter how well-grounded and logical---"prove" the truth of the theory, is unadulterated bullshit.
wildswan said...
I think that CRT Original can work. It does work to say that the black community is 13% of the population and 34% of the abortions and that this has caused the black birthrate to decline below replacement level which is genocide.
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It's not "genocide" if the black women getting the abortions freely CHOOSE to get them.
If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder.
Yes, the basic observation here is that the term "racist" is a valid description of anything at all. Nothing and no one can ever be shown not to be racist.
"If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder."
Yes, but it's still homicide.
Isn't it romantic?
Ask rhhardin for the acid test.
"That now requires the other people — the white people advocating vaccine passports — to step up to the work of rebutting the presumption. They must meet the burden of proving that it is not racist."
So you do know that this is not a method of intellectual exploration, but merely a tactic in a brutal struggle for power, intended to hamstring white opponents. I wasn't sure you grasped that. You often seem to take accusations of racism seriously.
Bruce Hayden,
Oh, and the obvious. We all had to present state approved photo IDs to get the COVID-19 vaccine. Indeed, the list of acceptable documents was similar to the one for flying, etc. Racist, by definition.
Exactly. Plus the site for vaccinations in Salem is the Marion County Fairgrounds, and for practical purposes you need a car even to get there.
wholelottasplainin',
If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder.
Yes, but if you shoot yourself, it's a "gun death," no different from an actual murder.
I have never understood why suicide-by-gun is so icky and scary, while suicide-by-doctor is heartily approved in my state. Most suicides of either kind are mentally ill, and those that aren't IMO ought to be able to kill themselves however they like. The objection to guns in the suicide context is apparently that most people who use one actually do manage to kill themselves.
@Atlhouse:
I propose a new theory, let's call it Neo-Critical Race Theory. Done well, it's an inquiry that begins with a presumption.
However instead of presuming that the status quo exists because of White systematic racism, the presumption is things are the way there are because Black people are genetically inferior.
You do a what-if-you-had-to-argue exercise — the best you can. And then you ought to look at your argument critically, but maybe you don't openly share your self-critique. You demand that other people — Black people — rebut the presumption.
Are you fine with that? If not, why are you fine with CRT, but not NCRT?
The objection to guns in the suicide context is apparently that most people who use one actually do manage to kill themselves.
Gun suicide leaves a mess, as I know from having to clean up after one.
"If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder."
Self-abortion... elective self-abortion. There are accidental, negiligent self-abortions, too.
>>Dang it! The band-aid is probably racist too, now I think about it. It's cracker colored.
I just got my 2nd dose here in FL... they give you a blue bandaid. Probably as not to offend anyone.
Oh, and it was 100% USN sailors doing all the vaccinations. We're an Air Force family, so that hurt...
:)
One of the advantages of the smallpox vaccine was that no papers were needed.
I can still prove I got the smallpox vaccine. I still have the scar on my upper left arm.
Not terribly visible, looks like it could be a skin blemish. But easily recognizable if you know what you are looking for.
"VSULA" Used to go on a lot of Navy forms.
I suspect that most of us born before about 1970 have this scar.
John Henry
"CRT can be done well. I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars, and I have respect for the original project. But now that it's used widely in the world beyond the academy, it's getting debased and perverted."
Ah yes. Good Intentions. This is like the original intentions of The Grand Inquisition.
BTW, CRT is an Explanation, not a Theory. I would like to know how it could be falsified for proper testing.
"... it's getting debased and perverted."
Yea, that never happens with anything else the left does.
I had to show ID yesterday to get the vaccine. I don't know what happens if you say I don't have an ID.
CRT is derived from Critical Legal Theory, a neo-Marxist, class-based analysis that posited that current legal structures were designed to and did in fact keep powerful classes in power. So, for example, the crits might look at the labor laws that were put in place in the middle of the 20th century and show how they kept union leadership in power and in place at the expense of younger, poorer immigrant workers. They might look at mortgage lending practices to demonstrate that they were used to preserve Housing values for those who were already homeowners, and so forth. The Legal Crits became the Racial Crits without too much effort, and they shifted their focus from classissues to racial issues. In doing so, some of the Legal Crit “good guys” became “bad guys”
Because critical analysis and its refutation requires fact-based thought and analysis, it is an excellent academic exercise. But like the Wuhan virus, it has escaped from the lab into the general population with disruptive and perhaps devastating consequences.
Who knew the cannabis dispensaries of WA state were SO INCLUSIVE? You don't even get in the door without ID. No exceptions.
Professora said
I worked at UW Law School with some of the founding CRT scholars
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names please >>>> your judgment is critically in doubt / question
also to give credit where due
If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder
So, you're not aware that the word "suicide" is derived from "self-murder"?
Because critical analysis and its refutation requires fact-based thought and analysis, it is an excellent academic exercise.
Except the people pushing CRT also call facts, truth and analysis tools of the White patriarchy used to oppress women and people of color.
" Except the people pushing CRT also call facts, truth and analysis tools of the White patriarchy used to oppress women and people of color."
Yeah, but that isn't the way it started out. It wasn't about race. It was about whether legal institutions had the effect of maintaining incumbents in power, regardless of the utility of those institutions or those incumbents.
Also, I noted that the CLT/CRT virus has escaped into the general population, where it is causing disruption and even devastation. Something that started out as an approach to arguing about legal institutions and their effects has turned into a way of hammering opponents with the charge that they are racists devoted to removing the rights of others based on certain immutable characteristics.
It is a sick and disgusting turn of events.
When I was in law school, we talked a lot about legal realism, which is much less doctrinaire and much more empirical than CLT/CRT. The general approach was first you win the argument, then you win the case. Success in the law is based on persuasion.
CLT/CRT in practice has become bullying based on the crudest sort of reductive thinking. See George Orwell's Animal Farm for a fable about how all this has worked in the past.
I think vaccination passports are problematic in the domestic context. I honestly don't care about the racism angle -- I'm sure posh people of all races are secretly relieved that poor Blacks and anti-establishment Whites might be excluded from their shared public spaces through the mechanism of vaccination passports. But a wide-ranging programme of this sort seems like a recipe for both operational failure and persistent scope-creep.
But in the international context, I don't know how other countries (particularly in East Asia) get comfortable with travellers from places like the US, or especially the EU without some kind of mechanism to document vaccination. Sure you get those little CDC cards, but they seem laughably easy to forge, and it is 100% guaranteed that people are going to forge them. So you need something else beyond the little CDC form.
In two years, maybe that won't be such an issue, but I think there's at least a year and a half where that's going to be necessary for any sort of safe international movement.
Unless, you know, you're an illegal immigrant who just shows up at the border and gets tossed in a holding pen with a thousand other illegal immigrants. Illegal immigrants are protected by holy magic, after all.
Mark said...
If I kill myself it's called suicide, not murder
So, you're not aware that the word "suicide" is derived from "self-murder"?
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No, that's not correct. From Latin, suicide means "self-killing", not self-murder.
I am also aware that suicide is not illegal, but murder is a crime. Even as a matter of law a "homicide" is not per se a "murder." Homicide means a person killing another person irrespective of the intent or legality. Does the term "justifiable homicide" ring a bell?
(but attempted suicide was once both considered a crime and a sin, and successfully killing your self was a mortal sin dooming you to an eternity in Hell)
In any event, l submit that women aborting their babies are not committing "genocide".
Wanna argue with that, rather than embarrass yourself further?
genocide (n.)
1944, apparently coined by Polish-born U.S. jurist Raphael Lemkin (1900-1959) in his work "Axis Rule in Occupied Europe" [p.19], in reference to Nazi extermination of Jews, literally "killing a tribe," from Greek genos "race, kind" (from PIE root *gene- "give birth, beget," with derivatives referring to procreation and familial and tribal groups) + -cide "a killing." The proper formation would be *genticide.
Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aimed at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. [Lemkin]
- etymonline.com
Althouse asked: "Isn't this how to do Critical Race Theory? You always ask — about anything — Isn't it racist? That's the method."
To be more precise, CRT asserts a priori that racism is always present in everything. So one does not ask, "isn't this racist?" One says instead, "We know that racism was present. The only question is, how did racism manifest in this situation?"
John Henry,
"'VSULA' used to go on a lot of Navy forms. I suspect that most of us born before about 1970 have this scar [emphasis added]"
I lived for a while in the area of the world where the last known cases of smallpox occurred. It bothered me that there the vaccine scars petered out around birth dates of 1958 rather than 1970 (not coincidentally, the time when Sudan gained its independence from the Anglo-Egyptian condominium, and the first Sudanese Civil War began.) It seemed to me that there was a non-zero possibility of some active cases still hanging out in some remote valley, like Ebola.
Balfegor,
I have not seen the CDC card, but surely it's no easier to counterfeit than the venerable yellow vaccination card that is still the only proof I have of my Yellow Fever vaccination.
You can argue pointlessly with the purveyors of this horseshit, or tell them to go fuck themselves.
I know which tactic I will be using.
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Rigeldog at 9:57 PM--
Yeah. CRT assumes the conclusion. That is one of its most egregious features.
CLT does the same thing, but in a more generalized way. Anyone, without regard to race, creed or color, can be an exploiter of the working classes.
Kirk Parker--anyone with some white card stock, a good printer, and a ball point pen could forge a CDC vaccination card.
RigelDog said...
Althouse asked: "Isn't this how to do Critical Race Theory? You always ask — about anything — Isn't it racist? That's the method."
To be more precise, CRT asserts a priori that racism is always present in everything. So one does not ask, "isn't this racist?" One says instead, "We know that racism was present. The only question is, how did racism manifest in this situation?"
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Ayn Rand on racism
since racism is sub-category of collectivism = (abolishment of individual)
= all anti-individual propositions of which Marxism is one of the most flagrant example
Wikipedia ...
Racism is the belief that groups of humans possess different behavioral traits corresponding to physical appearance and can be divided based on the superiority of one race over another. It may also mean prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against other people because they are of a different race or ethnicity. Modern variants of racism are often based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. These views can take the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems in which different races are ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities.
Not quite--you don't ask IF it's racist, because you already know it IS racist.
The only question may be to ascertain in what ways it is racist, and who has to do what about it.
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