March 14, 2021

"My God, he’s like a polar bear out there on an ice floe."

Said Meade, after I read this Politico headline out loud: "Trump was supposed to be a political Godzilla in exile. Instead, he’s adrift."

277 comments:

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Breezy said...

Boatbuilder - :)!

Bob Loblaw said...

Hahaha. Polar bears are excellent swimmers, and they hunt humans for food.

Shouting Thomas said...

No, I have done no such thing, Arturo.

I’m just noting that your criticizing him for not being a master builder is quite ironic since Russia collusion was based on the assumption that he is a master builder.

You’re a deliberate liar even in how you interpret my remarks.

That’s the skill of a pro political operator.

Shouting Thomas said...

So, Arturo, we’re back to where we started.

Who do you work for?

narciso said...

Hes as tedious as the brazilian.

J. Farmer said...

@Breezy:

Good grief, J Farmer. Trump cut the red tape to get the vaccine done in record time. Agreed? Did anyone else drive this outcome? Could anyone else have done this? No. Giving credit where it’s due is the right thing to do, always.

It was done in the US, Canada, the UK, the European Union, Russia, China, and Japan. There were numerous reasons for this: a huge amount of money was being spent or was available, enrolling the thousands of volunteers for clinical trials was much easier than normal because of the high profile, and because of funding guarantees vaccine manufacturers could manufacture doses while clinical trials were underway.

Again, Operation Warp Speed was a good program, and Trump deserves credit for backing it, but it was not some unique/unprecedented course of action that had never been done or thought of before.

Shouting Thomas said...

The web page falsely stating that you are a Republican is an interesting clue.

You’re certainly not a Republican.

readering said...

My guess, Trump indicted in 2021 and ultimately avoids conviction when ajudged incompetent to stand trial.

Shouting Thomas said...

Stands trial for what?

You seem to have no idea that this constant search for a crime to charge Trump with indicts you, not him.

And, you claim to be a lawyer. Correspondence school degree?

walter said...

How's FBI doing with Hunter's laptop?

Shouting Thomas said...

If you are a lawyer, readering, how many times have you been cited for ethical violations?

You’re ignorant of the ethical standards of the legal profession.

walter said...

Banned Gambler's Anon member and pederast associated commenter C__! is getting hot over a betting opportunity..only hours after renewing vows at weekly meeting.

Shouting Thomas said...

Ambulance chaser?

narciso said...

Considering it was deemed an existential crisis


https://thenationalpulse.com/breaking/bannons-war-room-796-797/

boatbuilder said...

"Again, Operation Warp Speed was a good program, and Trump deserves credit for backing it, but it was not some unique/unprecedented course of action that had never been done or thought of before."

Farmer--I honestly don't know what to say to this.

It literally has never happened before, and would not have happened under the existing regulations.

What the hell is your point? That Joe or Hillary or Mitt would have done the same thing?

Certainly Joe is making abundantly clear that he wouldn't.

The point, Farmer, is that YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION.

You made yours, which was (you say) Trump.

Yet you carp and cavil. Grow up!

boatbuilder said...

Readering comes through in the clutch! If we keep indicting him eventually he will get too old to fight us! Brilliant!

Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

I is glad senior el presidente sack of potatos cooked up some vaccine in Hunter's porn hub crack pipe.
Give the man some credit.

It's not evil pharmaceutical and bio-tech companies who make vaccines - it's el presedente!.
respect*

Bruce Hayden said...

“The regulations and agencies are there for a reason. They are there to protect the American people. Routing around them, strongarming them into fast approvals might not be such a good idea. OTOH, President Trump knows about risk management. He decided that the risk of bypassing regulations and regulators was outweighed by risk of delays in the vaccine. “

The importance here is that the vaccines are probably not safe. People may die as a result of taking them. Normally, that would mean that the federal bureaucrats would delay approving them until they were made as safe as possible. That is the normal process, at least since the Thalidomide baby fiasco. But people were dying by the tens, hundreds, of thousands in this country from this virus. The federal bureaucracy is not equipped to make that tradeoff - as bureaucrats, they are conditioned to minimize risks. Not to minimize deaths, but to minimize risks, esp to themselves, and their experience tells them that they won’t suffer, professionally, from not approving the vaccines, even if hundreds of thousands die, but likely would suffer if the vaccines killed to many. The deaths from the vaccines would be on them, but not the deaths by the coronavirus. That is part of what Trump did - he overruled their bureaucratic insistence that the vaccines had to be known to be safe before they could be approved, and instead did the arts of trade offs that no bureaucrat would never do.

narciso said...

And one wouldnt pick manifestly incompetent persons like palm or levine to handle distribution.

narciso said...

Astra zenica the one which seems to have taken some short cuts is british sweden.

Breezy said...

I just want to point out that the acceleration of a vaccine remedy would never happen under a socialist or communist or fascist regime. We’ve seen in real time the life and death stakes we are facing if we move toward those methods of governance.

J. Farmer: Thank you for agreeing Trump deserves the credit for the vaccine timeline. That this was unprecedented, we will have to disagree.

Owen said...

Arturo Ui @ 4:11:"...Who opposed the fed gov financially backing the drug companies' investment in rapid vaccine development? Certainly wasn't me. I didn't see anyone opposing such a process, on the right or left."

Arturo before you waste any more of our bandwidth with your fact-free flatulence, can you try to learn a few things about how businesses work? It's pretty embarrassing to listen to you right now.

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Farmer--I honestly don't know what to say to this.

It literally has never happened before, and would not have happened under the existing regulations.


When was the last global pandemic of this scale and magnitude? Vaccine development was expedited everywhere. Clinical trials on the Pfizer–BioNTech vaccine started in Germany a couple of weeks before the US trials. There was a global race to develop a vaccine in the US, Europe, Asia, and Australia.

Yet you carp and cavil. Grow up!

You said, "Keep your head in the sand, Farmer. It was something unprecedented and unique to Trump." I asked, "Okay, what was it? What did Trump do that was "unprecedented and unique"?

Still waiting for an answer.

Michael K said...

Still waiting for an answer.

Don't want one, Farmer. Easy to see and to see why.

J. Farmer said...

@Breezy:

J. Farmer: Thank you for agreeing Trump deserves the credit for the vaccine timeline. That this was unprecedented, we will have to disagree.

You're welcome. I've never denied he gets some credit, but he certainly doesn't get the credit. De-risking clinical trials was undoubtedly a huge help, but so was prexisting coronavirus research, the availability through GISAID of the virus' genomic data, the existence of mRNA and adenovirus vector technologies, and the ability to very quickly enroll volunteers for clinical trials.

boatbuilder said...

Farmer--Is there something--anything--that you believe Trump should have done to advance the development of the vaccine faster than he did?

Do you believe that any other Presidential candidate on offer would have done as much to cut through the red tape as Trump did?

Do you believe that Biden/Hillary/Mitt would have done the same?

Does the evidence of the Biden/Harris administration to date tell you anything about how others might have responded under similar circumstances?

Here's a hint, Farmer--look at what the Democrat governors have done.



J. Farmer said...

@Michael K:

Don't want one, Farmer. Easy to see and to see why.

I'd love an answer, especially when I am accused of having my "head in the sand" over "something unprecedented and unique to Trump."

Breezy said...

J. Farmer: I either agree with items on your list or do not know enough to refute parts, but the fact remains that Trump was standing firmly with a can-do stance, while most of those around him said it couldn’t be done. Whether those others were ignorant or simply ignored progress already being made (I.e.your list), or simply were political hacks, time will tell.

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Farmer--Is there something--anything--that you believe Trump should have done to advance the development of the vaccine faster than he did?

No, and I have never said as such. What I said about Operation Warp Speed was, "I think Operation Warp Speed was a good idea, but it isn't correct to say that public-private partnerships are "not what normal politicians" do. Many national governments provided direct funding for a vaccine or commitments to purchase (thus insuring a market) in the UK, the European Union, Canada, Australia, China, and Japan."

Do you believe that any other Presidential candidate on offer would have done as much to cut through the red tape as Trump did?

I don't have the slightest idea what anyone else would have done in that position. It's not an answerable question. I also do not believe that cutting "through the red tape" was the primary reason for the rapidity of development. I think the funding and the ability to quickly enroll a large amount of volunteers were among the most decisive factors.

boatbuilder said...

You got an answer, Farmer.
Trump did everything within his power to cut red tape.

It's not that complicated.

Did Donald Trump as President of the United States do whatever was within his power to advance the process of developing a vaccine and getting it to the public as rapidly as possible?

Would this-in your opinion--have occurred under "any" administration? Including in particular the current administration?

narciso said...


Well you have to stay on the gravy train

https://thenationalpulse.com/news/daszak-slams-bannon-reveals-database-lies/

J. Farmer said...

@Breezy:

J. Farmer: I either agree with items on your list or do not know enough to refute parts, but the fact remains that Trump was standing firmly with a can-do stance, while most of those around him said it couldn’t be done. Whether those others were ignorant or simply ignored progress already being made (I.e.your list), or simply were political hacks, time will tell.

Fair enough. I am exactly sure who "most of those around him said it couldn’t be done" refers to, but I'll concede such naysayers existed. I would've cautioned against any predictions, good or bad, in March about when a vaccine would be developed, manufactured, and distributed on a mass scale. There was no certainly nothing about the candidate vaccines that made them a sure thing.

Darkisland said...

Blogger Chuck said...

WTF.
I want that bet with you, John Henry. For $500,000, not $5.
To be clear; you are claiming that Trump will be President of the United States on January 3, 2022.
I say again; wtf.


So you are Arturo? I had not figured that. I thought Arturo was someone else.

Anyway, I'll bet with you for $5, not 500m. I can afford to lose $5. I doubt that you would pay off and since you operate under a pseudonym, I would have no way of collecting. I think I know who you are but am not sure. If you are who I think you are, basically a 2nd rate strip mall lawyer, I doubt you could come up with $5m much less $500m. Other than this blog I have no way of communicating with you and you are not even supposed to be here. So you see my problem.

I, on the other hand, have a track record and you and everyone else knows where I live. So no.

But if you would like to take the $5 bet I am happy to oblige.

Am I betting with you as "Chuck" or as "Arturo"?

John Henry

boatbuilder said...

"It's not an answerable question."

Bullshit.

The answer is right in front of your eyes. The Biden Administration. The governments of NY, CA, MI, MA, WA, OR, etc.

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Did Donald Trump as President of the United States do whatever was within his power to advance the process of developing a vaccine and getting it to the public as rapidly as possible?

I have no idea. But just assume it's true. What point have I made you think this contradicts? Where have I criticized Trump on vaccine development? Where did I say Trump could have done more to "advance the process of developing a vaccine"?

What I have said was that the decision to provide a large amount of public funding and regulatory assistance to pharmaceutical companies developing a vaccine is not something unique to Trump or unprecedented, other than in scale.

Michael K said...


I'd love an answer, especially when I am accused of having my "head in the sand" over "something unprecedented and unique to Trump."


No, it's OK. I gave you the example of the Human Genome Project, a classic bureaucratic program with Jim Watson as boss. Watson, of course stole the double helix from Rosalind Franklin but he was a respectable head of a bureaucracy.

I don't have to respond to your comments as I can read The American Conservative as well as you can. Trump has a record of "getting things done" as exemplified by the ice skating rink. Conrad Black has the story of the Sun Times building in Chicago.

Lots of little people are unwilling to admit that there are some who "GET THINGS DONE."

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Bullshit.

The answer is right in front of your eyes. The Biden Administration. The governments of NY, CA, MI, MA, WA, OR, etc.


Make this as partisan as you like. It is not a defense of a criticism of Trump to say that some hypothetical Democratic nominee would have done worse. Ignoring hypotheticals, look what was actually done. As I said before, BioNTech started clinical trials in Germany in April of 2020. What does Trump cutting through red tape have to do with that?

boatbuilder said...

Farmer--WTF?
It is unprecedented. Why do you have a problem with this?
The USA is not Europe or japan--it's the USA. When you are President of the USA you are dealing with things that the heads of state in Europe and Japan are not dealing with, and you do what you need to do in the USA.

Trump did absolutely the best that a president of the USA could do under the circumstances. You agree, and yet you bitch about it.

J. Farmer said...

@Michael K:

No, it's OK. I gave you the example of the Human Genome Project, a classic bureaucratic program with Jim Watson as boss. Watson, of course stole the double helix from Rosalind Franklin but he was a respectable head of a bureaucracy.

What does the Human Genome Project being "a classic bureaucratic program" have to do with providing billions of dollars of funding to multinational pharmaceutical companies to develop a vaccine? The reason companies were able to roll out clinical trials so quickly is because they were relieved of financial risk.

Francisco D said...

Between assholes and whack jobs this blog has become unreadable.

I am sick of the bullshit.

Many of you have done a better job than Chuck was hoping to in destroying this blog.

narciso said...

In so far as we were operating on sketchy info

https://mobile.twitter.com/theotherphilipp/status/1364954564580040712

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Trump did absolutely the best that a president of the USA could do under the circumstances. You agree, and yet you bitch about it.

With all due respect, you're the one doing the bitching. I disagreed with a single statement another commenter made and wrote, "I think Operation Warp Speed was a good idea, but it isn't correct to say that public-private partnerships are 'not what normal politicians' do."

I do not know what that comment seems to be causing you consternation.

boatbuilder said...

Trump cutting through red tape is why my wife and I have been vaccinated, when the "experts" said it wouldn't happen for years.

You call me a "partisan", but you won't commit to anything except the proposition that somewhere they do a better job at some things.

I am not asking about some "hypothetical" Democratic nominee. I am asking about the actual administration in place in Washington and the Democrat Party controlled governments of the largest and most powerful states in the country.

Do you really think that the politicians available would have done better? If not, then you are simply armchair quarterbacking.

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Trump cutting through red tape is why my wife and I have been vaccinated, when the "experts" said it wouldn't happen for years.

What red tape was cut through to allow that to happen, and who were some of the experts you are referring to?

Do you really think that the politicians available would have done better? If not, then you are simply armchair quarterbacking.

Even if I think every other one would've totally sucked, everything I've said here about Trump and Operation Warp Speed would still be true, and I'd still say it. Again, what statement have I made that you think is incorrect?

wildswan said...

Other nation states also funded vaccine research. But Warp Speed got there because he-who- must-not-be-named was willing to back a whole new technology in vaccines and cut red tape. The Pfizer and the Moderna, the ones now is use, rely on mRNA instead of a weak version of the virus. That's new. Then he-who etc. set up a distribution system in which HHS worked with CDC and DOD to distribute rapidly. One million doses a day were being distributed when Biden was sworn in. Biden's goal was a one million a day; someone else did the work and reached the goal. We are all the better for it and so is the world.


boatbuilder said...

"With all due respect, you're the one doing the bitching. I disagreed with a single statement another commenter made and wrote, "I think Operation Warp Speed was a good idea, but it isn't correct to say that public-private partnerships are 'not what normal politicians' do."

Sure.

You could have said that an hour ago.

But that would mean that you would have had to concede the point, and given Trump the credit that he obviously deserves. Instead you played games.

If i understand you correctly your point is that governments in Europe, Japan and India were working with private corporations early on to develop the vaccine. Agreed.
Your second point is that therefore it is not a big deal that Trump as President of the USA did everything possible to promote the development and distribution of the vaccine to the American public in record time.
I disagree.

If you agree, say so. If you disagree, say so.

Take a stand.

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

Sure.

You could have said that an hour ago.


I said it about six hours ago. And three hours after that I said directly to you, "As I said earlier, I supported Operation Warp Speed. What I denied was that it was something unprecedented or unique to Trump." To which you replied, "Keep your head in the sand, Farmer. It was something unprecedented and unique to Trump."

And we've been at it ever since.

Your second point is that therefore it is not a big deal that Trump as President of the USA did everything possible to promote the development and distribution of the vaccine to the American public in record time.
I disagree.


Please quote wherever you believe I made this "second point."

Take a stand.

I've been participating here for a long time. I do not suffer a dearth of opinions, and I have no problem saying what I think. But I am not a flatterer or praiser of politicians. All politicians should be treated with skepticism and suspicion.

boatbuilder said...

No stand, then.

Got it.

iowan2 said...

but it was not some unique/unprecedented course of action that had never been done or thought of before.
Strange that all the scientists were adamant that getting a vaccine before 2021 was impossible.
I missed that vaccine that made it into peoples arms in less than 10 months. Do you have a list of all those success stories?

J. Farmer said...

@boatbuilder:

No stand, then.

Got it.


My "stand" is what I write. Again, what have I written that you want to take exception with? So far you've taken exception with things I haven't written.

JPS said...

Francisco D, 9:21:

I see it differently. Our host is the same Althouse. The blog is recognizably the same blog. The comments section has its ups and downs, but remains one of the few places left where I can learn something from disagreeing with people. Most of the time, anyway.

If there's getting to be a certain sameness in the comment patterns some days, I think that's because the larger political arguments are going in circles. And enough regulars have been here long enough, fewer people surprise you anymore. Easier to guess what some people are going to say.

Except for the occasional surprising hostility. Matt Sablan had a wonderful line awhile back about two commenters who seem reasonable to him suddenly going off on each other like two exes running into each other in a restaurant and trying to prove who won the breakup.

Mr Wibble said...

The deaths from the vaccines would be on them, but not the deaths by the coronavirus. That is part of what Trump did - he overruled their bureaucratic insistence that the vaccines had to be known to be safe before they could be approved, and instead did the arts of trade offs that no bureaucrat would never do.

And this is the important part: too many politicians aren't willing to do the trade-off and make a decision. Instead they'll try to hide behind bureaucrats and "expert commissions" and "following the science." But bureaucrats shouldn't be making those calls; we can't hold them accountable in the same way that we can theoretically hold elected officials accountable.

Mr. Forward said...

Warp Speed Joe.

effinayright said...

J. Farmer said...
@boatbuilder:

Farmer--Are you in a hurry to get the Russian vaccine?

Just a question.

No, I am not. Now would you mind answering my question? I'll repeat it, "Okay, what was it? What did Trump do that was "unprecedented and unique"?
***************************

We can argue all day long about what Trump "did". But if you think the federal bureaucracy and Big Pharma develop, test and distribute vaccines against virulent new viruses ROUTINELY in a matter of a year, you are WRONG. It took 20 months to develop a SARS vaccine, and by then the outbreak had waned.

"Warp Speed", Trump's policy directive to cut through red tape and provide money/ indemnify Big Pharma Trump is "what he did".

And if you want to argue that Trump did no big thing, then explain why the US is so far ahead of other countries in distributing and vaccinating its citizens:

From Our World in Data · Last Updated: 2 days ago

United States
Doses given 106M
Fully vaccinated 36.9M
% of population fully vaccinated 11.25%

Russia bragged it had a vaccine first, back in August, but as of two days ago:

Russia
Doses given 7.64M
Fully vaccinated 2.12M
% of population fully vaccinated 1.47%

India
Doses given 29.7M
Fully vaccinated 5.43M
% of population fully vaccinated 0.40%


I'm not including China, because nobody trusts their data.

Bottom line: if you still insinuate Trump did nothing special, explain why we are so far ahead in dealing with covid in terms of the absolute number of citizens vaccinated.

gadfly said...

Politico declares: "Trump was supposed to be a political Godzilla in exile. Instead, he's adrift." Large amount of government-provided income, other than overbillings for Secret Service security, should be greatly reduced with his failsons and daughter no longer covered. Trump's glitsy DC Hotel and Mar-a-Lago are taking significant income hits and the ex-train station now appears to be abandoned except for generous spending by the GOP.

Welcome to the Hotel California
Plenty of room at the Hotel California
Any time of year (Any time of year)
You can find it here

They almost got it right. Technically he is "adrift," ie afloat without moorage or steerage. But he routinely did "The Pony" without a partner. He drifted to the left when he said "Gee" and he drifted to the right when he said " Haw." Now, "Gee!" Now "Haw!" Boogety, boogety, boogety, boogety shoo.

I did my best to imagine Trump as a white polar bear wearing one of his 50 identical blue suits with the end of his tie hanging below his belt and tied at the neck in a grade-schooler's out-of-balance simple knot. Of course, finding orange pancake makeup to work on white facial hair would be tough.

Chuck said...

3/14/21, 7:32 PM
Blogger boatbuilder said...
I don't mean to be a dick about this (it's apparently what I'm good at, however), but the point is that The Leader of the Free World does things to motivate people.

Does any honest person seriously think that Donald J. Trump didn't do everything humanly possible to get the vaccine developed and administered to the public as rapidly as possible?

And, more to the point, succeeded?

Note the qualifier to "person".


And yet 49% of male Trump voters say that they will not get vaccinated.


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/nicholasreimann/2021/03/11/here-are-the-groups-who-dont-want-a-vaccine-and-trump-voters-are-near-top/amp/

Operation Warped Thinking.

Marcus Bressler said...

Why is Chuck still here?

THE OLD MAN

Chuck said...

3/14/21, 8:56 PM
Blogger Darkisland said...
Blogger Chuck said...

WTF.
I want that bet with you, John Henry. For $500,000, not $5.
To be clear; you are claiming that Trump will be President of the United States on January 3, 2022.
I say again; wtf.

So you are Arturo? I had not figured that. I thought Arturo was someone else.

Anyway, I'll bet with you for $5, not 500m. I can afford to lose $5. I doubt that you would pay off and since you operate under a pseudonym, I would have no way of collecting. I think I know who you are but am not sure. If you are who I think you are, basically a 2nd rate strip mall lawyer, I doubt you could come up with $5m much less $500m. Other than this blog I have no way of communicating with you and you are not even supposed to be here. So you see my problem.

I, on the other hand, have a track record and you and everyone else knows where I live. So no.

But if you would like to take the $5 bet I am happy to oblige.

Am I betting with you as "Chuck" or as "Arturo"?

John Henry


Duly noted.

And; bookmarked. Thanks to you, I am now 4-0 on Althouse blog bets. This latest bet would make me 5-0 but I expect to be better than 5-0 by next January.

Oh; and what could “Arturo,” whoever he is, and I do to prove that we are not one and the same? Anything you suggest within reason, I am willing to try.

iowan2 said...

Politico declares: "Trump was supposed to be a political Godzilla in exile. Instead, he's adrift.

Typical leftist drivel.

Create a strawman (indefinable) then destroy it.

Like Qnon and boogle boys, only the left sees these apparitions.

Carry on in your delusion Gadfly, I'm happy for you. Like a guy pretending he's a girl, he's harmless to others.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Operation Warp Speed was a good program, and Trump deserves credit for backing it, but it was not some unique/unprecedented course of action that had never been done or thought of before.

This is some high grade bullshit, which is Farmer’s specialty. As to “unprecedented” it is up to Farmer to show the precedents then. Show us the other 94% effective vaccines developed before Operation Warp Speed that PRECEDED it, not the concurrent development that relied on the same research. The quickest cycle I found was a 5-years to market vaccine and the average is closer to 12-years going back to early 20th century. Show your work Farmer.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Anyone making the extraordinary claim that Operation Warp Speed was “not unprecedented” has the responsibility to unpack that double negative and explain what other successful PPP like this existed before Warp Speed, what specific vaccine preceding COVID-19 were developed and tested and on the market faster. Then to ensure we’re comparing apples to apples limit your examples to vaccines with greater than 90% effectiveness in trials. Then we can consider such an extraordinary claim in context of 2021. Thanks!

Rusty said...

boatbuilder said...
"Readering comes through in the clutch! If we keep indicting him eventually he will get too old to fight us! Brilliant!"
There has to be a crime first. I'm sure readering and his pals will cobble one up, but it still has to be plausible. That will be problematic.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Hey banned commenter, why the resistance among medical professionals to get the vaccine? Also why did Biden fuck up the million-doses-per-day pace that we were on in January? And why does the puppet potus wear TWO masks even after being vaccinated? Seems very non-scientific to me!

henge2243 said...

Meade’s analogy is off. Trump is like an eskimeaux put out on the ice floe to die. A polar bear can always swim back to land. The eskimeaux is put out to die.

AMDG said...

Blogger Mr Wibble said...
Seeking the spotlight right now would be the worst thing Trump could do. The Biden admin's compounding failures on the border, along with Cuomo's rapid fall from grace and the SJW madness turned up to 11 are all giving Americans a taste of what they can expect for the next four years. Better for Trump to bide his time, make a few comments when necessary, and let his opponents do all the work.

When has bad timing ever kept Trump from impulsively putting himself in the spotlight?

If social media had banned him in December, 2019 instead of January, 2021 he would still be President.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

And the masking is not for his protection. It is for the protection of everyone around him. You don't get that? Are you that fucking stupid?

Well I ain’t stupid enough to believe that bullshit. Less than 30% of frontline medical professionals have volunteered for the vaccine. This is a worldwide phenomenon. In Germany up to half the nurses and ER docs scheduled for vaccines showed up for their appointment. Get up to speed loser! “Protect others”! FFS from what? That’s stupid. Didn’t know you were such a theatre fan!

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

Thanks for speaking for the rump remnant of the Lincoln project. Have fun trying ride Cheney and Sasse to victory, Loser.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/the-biggest-covid-19-vaccine-skeptics-frontline-health-care-workers_3724145.html

Greg The Class Traitor said...

John henry said...
Should PDJT get credit for the vaccine? Perhaps not. But he should get credit for letting the companies develop the various vaccines.

Should PDJT get credit for the vaccine? No, that goes to the people who made the vaccines.

Should PDJT get credit for every single American getting a vaccine shot this year or last year, who wasn't part of one of the vaccine trials?

Yes, he should. And anyone who denies that is an ignoramus, liar, or idiot.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

I’ve taught science and am married to a super-talented lab tech who ran a blood bank testing and processing crew. So I don’t take medical advice from ambulance chasing lawyers. I’ve been analyzing data on COVID-19 for a year now. People who “believe in masks” are trusting in fairytales and voodoo not science. A vaccine is all the protection one needs if natural immunity is unavailable. I don’t know what Joe is up to but it ain’t following “science” of any stripe to be so freakily attached to multi-masking.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

No chuckles. I don’t do requests. Fuck off.

Michael K said...

Blogger Marcus Bressler said...

Why is Chuck still here?

THE OLD MAN


Maybe he has turned into a night creature so Althouse doesn't see him in time to delete him.

Mike (MJB Wolf) said...

That ain’t science chuckles. It’s bullshit. Fuck off.

Ray - SoCal said...

Narciso - thanks for the link on early Covid stuff. Looking back, very strange...

On the Covid vaccine in the US, it’s amazing what Trump achieved in the US. The amount of red tape, cya, being super safe would have delayed the entire rollout by years. As Patrick Henry noted, that has done industry experience, he thought 3 years. Trump did it within a year.

Meade said...

"Meade’s analogy is off. Trump is like an eskimeaux put out on the ice floe to die. A polar bear can always swim back to land. The eskimeaux is put out to die."

And just like that, Trump bear swims back to land.

Readering said...

Where?

hstad said...

"My God, he’s like a polar bear out there on an ice floe."
Said Meade.

NICE SARCASM MEADE!

If not then you need to check your 'Scientific Bona Fides" at the door. "Polar Bears" love "ice floes" since it gives them a resting platform in their normal marathon swimming plus raises their percentage chances of catching their favorite food - seals.

RigelDog said...

Trumpanasaurus Rex, King of the Terrible Lizards, adrift on an ice floe....

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