October 5, 2020

"I will be leaving the great Walter Reed Medical Center today at 6:30 P.M. Feeling really good! Don’t be afraid of Covid. Don’t let it dominate your life."

"We have developed, under the Trump Administration, some really great drugs & knowledge. I feel better than I did 20 years ago!"

Tweeted Trump a few minutes ago.

AND: Look what that means. Apart from the news item — he feels good and is about to leave the hospital — we can see the beginning of his new framing of the covid issue: Fear not! Don't let it run your life! We have great treatments, great medical personnel! It's the new-old Trump optimism. He's still advocating getting out and living your life. He's been through the illness and what he's learned is, it's not so bad. I'm sure his opponents will pounce with recitations of the number who have died — 215,000!! They'll take the side of closing up, locking down, hiding your face, waiting and waiting to get back to life. They may be right, but maybe people will vote for what they want: Freedom! Back to normal! Don't be afraid!

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Never-Biden Never-Putin said...

The Chi Coms and the democrat party had to destroy the world economy to get Trump out.

Oh yes they did.

tim in vermont said...

"The number who died from is 6% of that, according to the CDC.”

Weird about the excess deaths number then. What was that all about?

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/the-excess-deaths-tally-in-the-us-is-204691-in-7-months-so-covid-19-deaths-might-be-undercounted-2020-08-13

Oh, I forgot, the lockdowns killed 190,000 people, and COVID the rest. This stuff is so easy to understand.

Readering said...

Hope POTUS stays away from Drudge. BRUTAL.

Drago said...

Lefties/LLR-lefties havent been this angry since Trump fed goldfish in Japan, had his steaks cooked well done, served fast food for the college football champs, had 2 scoops of ice cream for dessert and drank diet coke during dinner.

(shiver) Its like the Third Reich or something....

Michael K said...

Blogger Ray said...
I haven't read all the comments, but has anyone mentioned that Trump feeling 20 years younger may be due to the steroid dexamethasone. It acts as a stimulant.


Fair comment but the effect is gone very quickly unless they are tapering it. With a short course tapering should be unnecessary.

Drago said...

readering (The New Inga): "Copying and pasting from elsewhere--Herman Cain timeline. Just saying, one day at a time."

readering, dusappointed beyond words that OrangeManBad is alive, retreats to stories of republican deaths for solace.

Nothing weird about that.....

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Achilles said...
There is Andrew Cuomo out there right now shutting down churches and synagogues.


...and using photos from 2006 to deceive

Michael K said...

Thus we could legitimately say that leukemia is always about the immune system, but more likely there is a distinction being made between white blood cell leukemias and red blood cell leukemias. There are many different kinds of leukemia. Almost every different kind of white blood cell has its own leukemia. That is a cancer where only that particular immune cell type is affected.

There is a sort of red cell malignancy called Polycythemia Rubra Vera. I'm not sure it is considered as malignant as white cell "Leukemia," which of course means white. Leukemia frequently involves other organs, which PRV does not as far as I know.

The immune cell malignancy is called Multiple Myeloma, which causes protein in the urine and bone collapse as it involves vertebra. There are several variants that involve the sort of protein.

A good friend of mine died of it a year ago and had no suspicion he was ill until he fell in the bathroom and broke his neck, which was honeycombed with the cancer.

Mike of Snoqualmie said...

Achilles: I'll take your Andrew and raise with King Jay I Inslee. King Jay I is on the ballot this November. I'm hoping that his "subjects" will revolt and send him into exile.

Joe Smith said...

"Shows the respect he has for nobody."

From the steve uhr gazette:

Trump cures cancer! Millions of doctors out of work!

Spiros Pappas said...

Millions of people in the Third World are going to die if the West stays in lockdown. Our Covid obsession has disrupted the detection and treatment of diseases like malaria, TB and AIDS. These diseases are going to surge with famine returning to Africa.

This is Trump's fault. Not the degenerate mayor of New York City or some lightweight governor. Trumps presidency was problematic at its best, now it's a disaster.

HT said...

Rosalyn C. said...

If Trump were an ordinary citizen he'd probably would still be waiting for the test result.
10/5/20, 2:44 PM

Not anymore. All he'd need to do is go down to F Street on the grounds of the Building Museum and wait in line just a short while. Results back the next day. It was very easy this time. And it's free. DC not doing too bad a job at testing (finally).

Fubar.N.Wass said...

"I'm ready to be infected and get it over with. Any UW students reading this who are planning a party tonight? Email me. I'll bring the beer."

Hold off on that for a few more months so we get a better gauge on how long the antibodies last in the immune system.

It would be embarrassing to go out and catch the corona virus this year and then catch it again next year.

We would never let you live it down.

Readering said...

Fingers crossed that Trump continues to stage manage his own covid contraction reality show. He thinks if ratings. I think of votes. I expect us both to be pleased in that regard.

Interesting by the way that FLOTUS and other relatives not shown there to greet him.

Birkel said...

tim in vermont does models.
"The number of excess deaths is the difference between the model’s projections and the actual observations."

Explain the bump above expectations in 2018, please.
I will be happy to learn of those causes.

readering said...

"Nothing weird about that." What's weird is the dynamic where I comment about the posts and Drago comments about me. Others do that too, but Drago the most (followed by Michael K.)

Drago said...

Readering: "Hope POTUS stays away from Drudge. BRUTAL."

LOL

History began anew this morning for readering, again!

readering thinks its still June of 2019 and nobody knows Matt Drudge sold out to the lefty big bucks!

Good old readering.

With condolences to r/v for making it a contest, and with no other lefties in contention (gadfly doesnt count because I am fairly certain he/she/xe is 7 years old) I hereby declare readering the clear winner of The Most Inga-like Pister At Althouse.

Congratulations to readering!

Well deserved I say.

MalaiseLongue said...

"From what I understand, this is the first time in history we have locked down the healthy people during a pandemic. . . . Locking people in their homes and bankrupting businesses was a bad idea."

Not at all, when it's the first time in history that Donald Trump has been president of the United States, and you're a Democrat, and it's an election year, and your nearly four-year-old rolling coup still hasn't been able to get any traction.

I'm Not Sure said...

"Millions of people in the Third World are going to die if the West stays in lockdown.

This is Trump's fault."


Trump ordered the lockdown? I'm pretty sure that's not right.

LilyBart said...


most of the 215,000 dead were older people. We should have done a better job taking care of our vulnerable instead of acting like we all had the same risk.

LilyBart said...

Readering said...
Hope POTUS stays away from Drudge. BRUTAL.


Is Drudge still a thing?

Big Mike said...

@wholelottasplainin', I don't care for your attitude, but thanks for the link.

Drago said...

readering: ""Nothing weird about that." What's weird is the dynamic where I comment about the posts and Drago comments about me. Others do that too, but Drago the most (followed by Michael K.)"

I have a keen eye for idiocy and you never disappoint.

Post less idiotic "stuff" and I would be able to more easily breeze past your substance free "other stuff".

The Gipper Lives said...

I think the cause of death statistics are inflated by half--or more.

Skeptical Voter said...

I love it. Splody dopes heads are exploding with that line from Trump. I've got a couple of friends who think that the Kung Flu is the worst thing that's happened to the world in centuries---twice as bad as the Black Plague---horrible horrible and don't you dare say anything different. There is brain matter on the ceilings in their homes tonight.

n.n said...

and you're a Democrat, and it's an election year, and your nearly four-year-old rolling coup still hasn't been able to get any traction.

When witch hunts, warlock trials, and protests are normalized for social progress. When allegations of diversity are one more tale to pin on the Ass. And even em-pathetic appeals to selective-child... reproductive rites recall memories of progressive choices and solutions past, present, and on a forward-looking basis, and the liberals that diverged, and a majority went along to get along. Throw another baby on the barbie.

Yeah, religious bigots. Well, they're Pro-Choice, quasi-religious ("ethical") bigots.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Mega Dittos to what Drago wrote at 10;29pm.

Balfegor said...

Re: Yancey Ward:

4 days after a massive dose of mono-clonal antibodies, no, he probably isn't infectious right now.

I thought they were finding that people who had natural antibodies were still testing positive on the PCR test for active virus -- but that was from when they were just starting out with antibody tests months ago. Has our understanding changed since then? (Or is it just that a massive dose of antibodies should have wiped out substantially all the virus in his system more quickly than a natural immune reaction could do?)

The Godfather said...

Does anyone here remember Barbara Tuchman? She was a very good writer of popular histories in the 1950s to 1970s -- lefty, but worth reading. One of her later books was called March of Folly, which was esentially anti-Viet Nam War propoganda, but dressed up as history. Her thesis was that a decision that turned out badly was "folly" if there were people around when the decision was made who argued against it. Her first example, as I recall, was the Trojan Horse. Now, of course, for every important decision that any government has to make, there are going to be some dissenters, so to say that a decision that is unsuccessful is "folly" because some folks disagreed with it is pretty silly. But the opposite may make more sense. Was there anyone else involved as a serious decisionmaker or critic who was advocating a different policy? Granted (at least for the sake of argument) that Trump did not always make the best possible decision about how to deal with the coronavirus threat, who was out there arguing for a different approach that would have made a positive difference? If VP Biden, or any of his supporters were doing so, I missed it. Please educate me.

Friendo said...

Steve Uhr: check your vagina, I think there’s some sand in it.


Readering: you’re a tiresome cunt.


Spiros: you’re ignorant and best to not comment

Dr Weevil said...

Tim in Vermont, comment 202 (7:52pm):
Are you mocking the idea that the lockdown could have killed tens or hundreds of thousands? I hope not, because it has undoubtedly done just that.

I've seen numerous reports that 'deaths of despair' (suicide plus fatal drug overdoses) are way up, though no specific numbers. (Neither the press nor the medical establishment wants to even look like they think there's a health down-side to the lockdown.) Are people who've been laid off or had the businesses they poured their lives into go bankrupt or be burned down by mobs of assholes more or less likely to kill themselves? I think the answer is more, much more. I think being locked up at home, without the support of friends and family, without being able to visit sick and dying loved ones, has undoubtedly pushed more people to suicide or to 'falling off the wagon' and taking up drugs and alcohol after years of sobriety.

There are other health effects of lockdowns: I read a report that cancer screenings were down 85% (I think it was) in April from the previous year. Any cancer that would have been detected in April but was not is obviously more likely to kill, much more likely if it's detected 6-8 months later. I've heard of many cases of people refusing to go to the emergency room for chest pains because they thought they would just catch Covid there and die from that, so they were better off taking their chances at home. Come to think of it, I'm overdue for my quinquennial colonoscopy: hope the delay doesn't come back to bite me.

Despite the general lack of concrete numbers, I have read a specific report that military suicides are up 20%. I would suspect it would be worse outside the military, which hasn't been laying off employees, or sending people off to meat-grinder wars lately.

In short, any increase in overall mortality cannot be attributed entirely to Covid, since some (much? maybe even most?) of it is in fact a result of the lockdown. And I haven't even counted the huge increases in murders of policemen, and of the general public in 'defund the police' cities.

Drago said...

Readering: "Hope POTUS stays away from Drudge. BRUTAL."

LilyBart: "Is Drudge still a thing?"

No, it hasn't been since the summer of 2019...but readering still doesn't have a clue. Which makes sense, all things considered.

Jamie said...

It's good to hear from Inga - it had been a while. Stay well.

Original Mike and Robert Cook, jeez louise, long life and good health to you both.

I'm so glad to be living in the Age of Miracles.

mandrewa said...

Michael K. said, "There is a sort of red cell malignancy called Polycythemia Rubra Vera. I'm not sure it is considered as malignant as white cell "Leukemia," which of course means white. Leukemia frequently involves other organs, which PRV does not as far as I know.

The immune cell malignancy is called Multiple Myeloma, which causes protein in the urine and bone collapse as it involves vertebra. There are several variants that involve the sort of protein.

A good friend of mine died of it a year ago and had no suspicion he was ill until he fell in the bathroom and broke his neck, which was honeycombed with the cancer."


Thanks for the gentle correction. That sounds horrible what happened to your friend.

Since red blood cells lack nuclei, it should be almost impossible to have a cancer beginning or originating from a red blood cell.

Greg The Class Traitor said...

steve uhr said...
Intentionally transmitting a deadly disease is a felony in most jurisdictions.

You need to keep up, my man.

CA just this year changed it from a felony to a misdemeanor to have sex with someone when you're HIV+, and not first warn them that you're HIV plus.
IIRC, a bunch of other Democrat controlled States are trying to follow suit.

Last I checked, HIV wa a hell of a lot deadlier than Covid 19

Susan said...

I have Polycythemia Vera. Didn't know it until I had a pontine stroke in 2017. Been treating the Polycythemia since then as I sure as heck don't want to have another one of THOSE strokes. I missed 4 days of work!

I also have secondary progressive MS, which I didn't know until last fall when I suddenly lost the hearing in my right ear.

So, yeah, I suppose I should have quit my job and stayed home cowering in my basement when COVID came along but what's the point of living a life like that?

I say COVID, get in line. I'm going to die from something. We all are.

Readering said...

Difference is Inga never figured out it could well be just dogs on the internet.

Mark said...

Drago, you troll every single lefty here.

Cut the bulletin.

Your posts are little more than poo flinging when they are at their best. If it wasn't for Meade also often being a troll, you might not be here.

Readering said...

A week from the first debate, and I did not have, "I got covid, I'm on performance enhancing drugs and I'm telling you not to fear covid," on my bingo card of Trump closing arguments.

DeepRunner said...

This is one reason why Trump's supporters love him. Take on life. Devastating things happen, but we have a choice as to whether we are held hostage or not. I expect his first presser after returning and regaining health will be loaded with snark from the blow-dried retches of the media. I really look forward to Jim Acosta asking him questions.

BUMBLE BEE said...

Perhaps we'll find out next year, when the actual death rates become apparent. Prager often says courage is the rarest of human attributes. Surrender monkeys abound.

wendybar said...

And watching the media meltdown is priceless.

Rusty said...

I see the usual suspects are roundly disappointed that POTUS still lives.
Good.
Eat your stony little hearts outs.

Big Mike said...

And watching the media meltdown is priceless.

@wendybar, the main thing the members of the news media had to sell was their credibility. And they threw it away in eight years of Obama and four years of Trump. Now they’re frustrated that hardly anyone believes them. All together now ...

Awwww, poooorrr babies!

Drago said...

The Inga-like readering: "A week from the first debate, and I did not have, "I got covid, I'm on performance enhancing drugs and I'm telling you not to fear covid," on my bingo card of Trump closing arguments."

Well, looks like we have ANOTHER lunatic lefty with a Social Media Medical credential arguing corticosteroids are equivalent to anabolic steroids!

Hey readering, why didn't you just run with blood doping too a la Lance Armstrong?

LOLOLOLOLOL

Poor Inga. The very day after readering wins The Most Inga-like Poster Contest, readering has to go and flub something so basic that not even Inga would have been so dense to do the same.

Drago said...

By the way, given the now near universal meme-ing on the left/LLR-left falsely accusing Trump of using performance enhancing drugs, given the history of democratical/LLR-lefty projection antics with russia collusion and ukraine, that represents proof positive the democraticals are cranking up actual performance enhancing meds for Dementia/Little Girl Fanboy Biden.

exhelodrvr1 said...

You can't just take care of the vulnerable. That would be profiling. And we all know how evil that is.

mandrewa said...

Yancey Ward: 4 days after a massive dose of mono-clonal antibodies, no, he probably isn't infectious right now.

Balfegor: I thought they were finding that people who had natural antibodies were still testing positive on the PCR test for active virus..."

Testing positive on a PCR test doesn't mean you're infectious. PCR tests will pickup the virus for weeks and maybe months after you've been infected but are no longer, practically speaking, infectious.

See MedCram

BUMBLE BEE said...

As reported earlier, worldwide stillbirth up by %400. Third trimester complications not tended to. Kind of esoteric reference but a statistic to be included in the dempanic of 19'. Party of science's definition of quarantine. Sad way to end a country.

Jason said...

It seems like Democrats have gone all out on making paralysis by risk aversion part of their brand.

Except they can only perceive risk from one direction. And they compete to display how stupidly risk averse they can be to one another in ever accelerating purity spirals of outrage.

It’s ridiculous .

Kevin said...

Hope POTUS stays away from Drudge.

Everyone else seems to be.

Todd said...

Mark B said... [hush]​[hide comment]
This is a very illuminating CDC chart showing excess deaths. For the first time since the COVID-19 pandemic struck, we are below the threshold level (number of expected deaths). Fewer people are dying from all causes than historical/seasonal/demographic trends would predict.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm

10/5/20, 4:03 PM


I wonder how much of that was due to folks putting off elective surgeries. I am sure that there was a group of folks that passed away during this "lock down" period (or shortly will) due to un-necessary delays in needed testings and treatments but there also has to be a number of folks that did not pass away due to cancelled surgeries (you can't die from surgery/complications if you didn't have the surgery). Is that a wash?

SensibleCitizen said...

We start decaying the minute we're born. We've been given life for an incredibly short period of time. If you die now or later the result is exactly the same.

Don't waste one second of your life worrying about this virus. Be smart, but live your life.

Francisco D said...

DeepRunner said...
This is one reason why Trump's supporters love him. Take on life. Devastating things happen, but we have a choice as to whether we are held hostage or not.

The other option is Democrats who run around like little girls with their hair on fire because life is so scary. They are terrified of the flu and words that challenge their world view.

walter said...

Biden wants everyone masked and increased testing, presumably of the asymptomatic...against CDC advice last I looked. And oblivious to the PCR cycle testing concerns.
COVID's heavy toll: Depression, suicides, opioid overdoses increase in pandemic era

Bilwick said...

While millions of Democrats and their RINO butt boys continue to catch and spread the virus of Statism, I'd like to tell them "Don't let Statism dominate you." But of course the whole point of Statism is for the infected to dominate US; so that wouldn't work.

MacMacConnell said...

Balfegor

"I thought they were finding that people who had natural antibodies were still testing positive on the PCR test for active virus -- but that was from when they were just starting out with antibody tests months ago."

You can get a positive test after you have completely recovered. Your body is still excreting dead covid cells which still have Covid DNA. The lab test recycles the sample to separate that DNA, my understanding is that there is no CDC guidance on how many times labs should recycle to replicate the Covid.

Scientists are coming around to the rational that lockdowns are unhealthy for the population. Check it out.

https://gbdeclaration.org/

readering said...

It has been reported what POTUS has taken. Drago?

MacMacConnell said...

SensibleCitizen said...
"We start decaying the minute we're born."

On the first day of Cellular Biology at university, the first words out of the professor's mouth was, " All life begins dying the minute it's born, enjoy the journey".

Original Mike said...

"It has been reported what POTUS has taken."

Reported by these guys?

Seriously readering, you should take a look at the performance of the outlets you think of as "news".

Yancey Ward said...

Balfegor,

The PCR tests can find the virus RNA for weeks afterwards- especially given the number of replication cycles they are running today which is an insane 40+- almost like they are deliberately acting to inflate the positive results.

You generally are only infectious in the period before you develop a full blown IgG antibody response. Getting the mono-clonal antibody, a selected-for-efficacy antibody, at the dose Trump got is like taking the disease progression and accelerating it by at least a week. Yes, the antibody has probably more or less wiped out the virus in Trump after 4 days. My only worry is that it might have short-circuited his own immune system's production of natural immunity. For now, you can't even test him for a natural antibody response. They can test him for antigen proteins, but even then you can test positive without active virus.

Original Mike said...

"The PCR tests can find the virus RNA for weeks afterwards- especially given the number of replication cycles they are running today which is an insane 40+- almost like they are deliberately acting to inflate the positive results."

Good article on this:

https://pjmedia.com/columns/stacey-lennox/2020/10/05/why-is-fauci-wringing-his-hands-over-covid-cases-detected-by-prc-tests-n1004333

walter said...

Yancey,
A Milwaukee Medical College of Wisconsin doc was on the air saying not prudent to keep testing after a positive because positive result possible up to 3 months post infection.
Of course, begs the question of testing the asymptomatic to begin with...but that was not addressed.

walter said...

The real pharma question is what cocktail Sloe Joe is taking these days.
Jill knew..

hstad said...

AA - interesting comment from you and your conclusion. But it's full of the same misinformation generated by the MSM. We the people in the USA are not gettin any non-propoganda oriented information to actually help us. For example, the 215,000 number you cited has been thoroughly debunked by most adults. The CDC data table is based on an analysis of death certificates that mention COVID-19 as a cause. For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned.

The other 94% list COVID-19 and other conditions together. Among those deaths, there were, on average, 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death, the public health agency said. It is rare for people not to have multiple medical issues at death.

We see this every year when the "Seasonal Flu" arrives and takes many people [mostly elderly] with multiple conditions. But like everything else - Covit has morphed into the 'killer of the century' in the lying MSM eyes.

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Kirk Parker said...

Of course I remember Tuchman!

The Guns of August, Stilwell and the American Experience in China, and above all A Distant Mirror. Wonderful stuff.

And your characterization of March of Folly is spot on; what an disappointment that book was.

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