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"Myself and the first lady are both fine. I was tested. Those results, the preliminary results, has come back as a positive test. . . . Right now, I feel fine — no symptoms of any kind."
Said Mike Parson, the Governor of Missouri. He looks rather old, but he's only 65.
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Sorry Governor, poor grammar is the first symptom of Coronavirus. You're stricken, sir.
The false positive rate runs at whatever it runs at.
"Sorry Governor, poor grammar is the first symptom of Coronavirus. You're stricken, sir."
That's how they talk in Missouri. It's the "show myself" state.
"He looks rather old, but he's only 65."
That's a beautiful thing you just said. Thank you. It made my day.
I turned 50 this year. I don't know if I look it, but I certainly feel it.
It's short for I myself.
"The false positive rate runs at whatever it runs at.”
Exactly, this is why reporting test results does more harm than good. It’s difficult to accurately interpret them, and impossible if you don’t know what test was used and it’s rate of incorrect results. Still politically motivated commenters on both sides run with them to “prove” whatever it is that they want pretend to prove.
I know that between 20 and 25 people are dying every day in my county of COVID and with COVID. You can probably shave that “with COVID” number a little bit, but lots of people live for decades with these co-morbidities, so COVID deaths is probably the only decent number we have along with excess deaths, which is also not perfect. There is so much we can’t know, but children never seem to want to hear that and make up stories to tell themselves to try to make themselves feel better.
He looks rather old, but he's only 65.
??? what's his Schrödinger's hotness coefficient ???
How many Dem governors got the rona? Not sure why this is national news. Oops I forgot my own advice. There is no news, only narrative setting...now I remember why its national "news"
Myself is sickened at the offense to the English language. Where’s the grammar tag, btw?
Yeah, and he probably doesn't wear the right labels or eat at the right places - as if there are any in Missouri. Let's all look down on him and make fun of him and the entire state.
Give me Obama any day of the weak. Creased pants, can read a teleprompter with preternatural skill, can recite empty platitudes that are often the opposite of the effect of his policies and action, and man, can he structure a sentence with impeccable grammar.
Maybe we focus on a bigger picture - a couple in their mid 60s, tested positive, but no symptoms, yet the Wuhan flu is treated like it's closer to Ebola.
I've insisted to my doctor that my wife and I had CoVid in early January. I've wanted a test so I could donate blood serum. He says the tests are very inaccurate and to wait until a test by the Mayo Clinic becomes available. That one is supposed to be good.
I clicked the link, but Google blocked it until I gave them information, which I refused to do.
I just heard an interview with Wesley Hunt running to win back Texas Congressional District 7 for Republicans. He was suppose to meet with Trump on Air Force One for a campaign event. He gets there, and they test him for COVID prior to boarding. He was positive, and later got his whole family tested and they were all positive, including his wife, who is pregnant. All are asymptomatic. Of course, Hunt wasn't allowed to travel with the President or anybody else.
"He looks rather old, but he's only 65"
Interesting how perceptions of "old" change. Sure, he ain't no Meade. But by historical standards, he looks normal for 65.
I hope he has a quick recovery.
I liked his approach to masks: if you want to wear one, you don't need the government to order you to do it.
If you don't want to be around people who don't wear masks, and you find you can't easily avoid them when you're out and about, don't go out and about. The world doesn't owe you a bubble wherever you go.
I genuinely can't tell anymore whether this is the largest scam in recorded history or the greatest ever case of collective mental illness.
It's been 6 months. If this were as dangerous as the expersts pretending everybody would know a bunch of dead people at this point. The global death rate is like five to six thousand a day and alot those are lies we know. During the plague in 3rd Century Rome, 5000 died in Rome every day. That's a plague. This is a psych op experiment
Ann, 65 was once "rather old." Now, I don't think so and neither do you.
Texan99 said...
If you don't want to be around people who don't wear masks, and you find you can't easily avoid them when you're out and about, don't go out and about. The world doesn't owe you a bubble wherever you go
whitney said...
The global death rate is like five to six thousand a day... During the plague in 3rd Century Rome, 5000 died in Rome every day. That's a plague. This is a psych op experiment
SERIOUSLY!
Both of You, STOP IT! There is No Place in Today's America, for rational thought!
We are here, to have FEELINGS and EMOTIONS.... NOT rational thought. Just Stop it!
"I turned 50 this year. I don't know if I look it, but I certainly feel it."
I'm turning 65 between now and year's end, and I don't feel it.
It's up to others to decide if I look it. I sure hope I don't look as weathered as Parson!
Why is "myself" so overused?
Physical distancing from symptomatic people coughing and sneezing. Otherwise, wash you hands with soap and water to clear viral buildup. Also, consider HCQ+Zn+Az, or Ivermectin, as early treatments to complement the body's defenses, control infection, and mitigate its progress.
The false positive rate runs at whatever it runs at.
False positives, conflation of causes (i.e. misdiagnosis), and preexisting immunity.
He's fat. when I was young, I read that most people dig their graves with a fork so I've tried to keep my weight down through the years though not always successful. Now, thanks to metformin, I'm at about my ideal weight and my body isn't screaming for food all the time. So, thanks again, Metformin.
n.n. sure speaks with a lot of authority for someone who is completely ignorant of the work that has been done on this virus over the past six months.
"The world doesn't owe you a bubble wherever you go.”
So in other words, “Fuck you!” I get it. A simple effective precaution like wearing a mask is jut too far to go to help your neighbors who may not be in perfect health, and still need to go to the supermarket in order to eat. It’s plain callousness, just like Kamala Harris said.
I really think that the reason the masks upset you guys so much is that you think that if the masks go away, the “scamdemic” will go with it. It’s primitive thinking, denial. Even n.n. who is no idiot, steadfastly refuses. to dispassionately examine the evidence. I just don’t get it. Do you guys want this to go away or what?
"and alot those are lies we know.”
Proven by cherry picking a tiny number of instances and then assuming the remainder based on your prejudices.
You obviously have very little experience dealing with creating statistics on this scale. I spent 20 years of my career designing software that did statistical analysis of a torrent of incoming data in real time. It had to be good enough so that we didn’t send people off on wild goose chases on false positives or ignore costly real problems with false negatives. Very few of the statistics we operated on were perfectly clean, what was more important than perfection was to get the best correlation that we could, and we did that by designing rules that were as good as we could get without being overly complicated and therefore too expensive in terms of computational resources to implement.
This is the same way that these COVID deaths are handled. They can’t have a review board examine each and every one of these 200,000 deaths in the US alone, they can only create rules for reporting that make the statistics as comparable to each other as possible.
So yeah, I think it’s pretty reasonable to believe that around 10% of the people who died yesterday, and the day before, and before that, died of the complications of COVID. You can try to wish it away, but if wishes were horses, beggars would ride, is the saying, I think.
it’s pretty reasonable to believe that around 10% of the people who died yesterday, and the day before, and before that, died of the complications of COVID
It's unreasonable to reach that conclusion. While SARS-CoV-2 may be detected as a virus or residual in "cases", the progress of Covid-19 does not follow in individuals with preexisting immunity (e.g. immune system, inhospitable environments). The complications of SARS-CoV-2 infection are directly proportional to its sustainability in the body. The number of cases is overlapped with preexisting pathogens that cause complications and mortality in the same demographic (e.g. Planned Parent).
A simple effective precaution like wearing a mask is jut too far to go to help your neighbor
A mask does not prevent aerosolized transmission. It has limited utility to control droplet spread. It marginally controls contact spread. People need to be aware of its benefits and limitations in order to mitigate viral spread and infection. There are different protocols when encountering symptomatic (e.g. coughing, sneezing) individuals, and context (e.g. contact and aerosolized fecal spread near Water Closets) matters.
Do you guys want this to go away or what?
Exponential spread reached its peak before mitigation strategies, including masks, were enforced. Also, the spread in hot, humid environments, and closed structures, implies that the primary transmission modes have been mischaracterized under different conditions in different contexts.
they test him for COVID prior to boarding. He was positive, and later got his whole family tested and they were all positive, including his wife, who is pregnant. All are asymptomatic
The positive tests indicate either past or present presence of viruses or viral fragments, or false positives. They should monitor for symptoms, and, depending on their risk profile, seek early treatment to complement the body's defenses.
I really think that the reason the masks upset you guys so much is that you think that if the masks go away, the “scamdemic” will go with it.
Tim in Vermont? i have a Serious Question for you; so i'll Try to remain perfectly civil
We've had mask mandates in MOST states, since July 20th
That's More than 60 days....
Now, being civil, i am NOT suggesting that masks WON'T work....
BUT! i am (politely!) asking WHEN they might start to work?
Can we look forward to results soon? Maybe by the end of the decade? (sorry! that wasn't nice)
"The world doesn't owe you a bubble wherever you go.”
Let’s say you work at a supermarket in the check out line, you can’t “work from home,” you very likely can’t go very long without a paycheck, and your career options are probably pretty limited. Let’s say you are 55. You are saying that nobody has any responsibility to take the most minimal steps within their power to ensure your safety?
What if you have to take a shit and the town well is handy right there, and it would be an effort to find a toilet, do you shit in the well because you don’t owe anybody any consideration towards their health?
What if you are driving to to play golf, you are on time, but you would like to get there a little early to practice your putting, are you justified in speeding through school zones and past stopped school buses because you don’t owe those kids a safety bubble?
If the above example is “different” I would like you to explain why. If your answer is “masks don’t work” then A, you are wrong, and B, it’s pretzel logic because the whole idea that you don’t owe anybody safety is premised on the idea that masks work, but they are too much trouble for you.
And BTW, " liked his approach to masks:” He probably has COVID and looking at him,I would say that he is going to make Howie Carr’s “Death Pool” for the next month or so.
"There is No Place in Today's America, for rational thought!
We are here, to have FEELINGS and EMOTIONS.... NOT rational thought. Just Stop it!”
That’s some first class projection gilbar, almost comic in it’s ironic depth.
What could be more emotional than ignoring all of the evidence on masks and refusing to wear them because you don’t wanna wear them.
tim in vermont said...
What could be more emotional than ignoring all of the evidence on masks and refusing to wear them because you don’t wanna wear them.
and I repeated:
i am (politely!) asking WHEN they might start to work?
Can we look forward to results soon? Maybe by the end of the decade? (sorry! that wasn't nice)
It's Thursday. Where is CDC on testing asymptomatics today?
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