The NY Post reports.
Blake, 29, was forbidden from going to the Kenosha home of his alleged victim from the May 3 incident, and police were dispatched Sunday following a 911 call saying he was there.
I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it
matter?
The responding officers were aware he had an open warrant for felony sexual assault, according to dispatch records and the Kenosha Professional Police Association, which released a statement on the incident on Friday.
That police union statement also claimed that Blake was armed with a knife at the time of the shooting — and had put one cop in a headlock and shrugged off two Taser attempts while resisting arrest....
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You'll only be told about skin color if it advances a certain narrative for a certain party.
How to get shot by a cop in America.
All these riots/arson are encouraging? embolden criminals to act stupidly. more rioting!
Take a look at that freeze frame of Blake rounding the car and then look for a picture of a claw knife.
Some vaginas are worth more than others. Yes, it matters.
I an infuriated every time I see a victim of a sexual assault called "alleged victim". Marginalization anyone? Believe all women?
The Karen Who Called the Cops on Jacob Blake Now Calls Herself His Fiancée
"...now that Blake’s financial prospects are looking up"
The NBA was willing to go on strike to support this rapist. They believe people should be judged by the color of their skin not the content of their character.
Too late for facts.....
Welp, the Black complainant, mother of 3 of his kids, is now referring to herself as his "fiancé." WIth the possibility of a 7 figure tort claim, amazing how quickly she has changed her view of him, from rapist to marriage material.
What are police supposed to do with domestic abuse calls in the Black community? Inquiring minds would like to know!
I can't tell whether the woman is black.
LNB in the paperwork = Laquisha N. Booker.
"I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?"
Black-on-black: what's the problem? Black man vs. woman: why would anyone pay attention to the woman?
Kenosha Professional Police Association Releases Details on Blake Shooting
The statement's main points:
The officers were dispatched to the location due to a complaint that Mr. Blake was attempting to steal the caller’s keys/vehicle.
Officers were aware of Mr. Blake’s open warrant for felony sexual assault (3rd degree) before they arrived on scene.
Mr. Blake was not breaking up a fight between two females when officers arrived on scene.
The silver SUV seen in the widely circulated video was not Mr. Blake’s vehicle.
Mr. Blake was not unarmed. He was armed with a knife. The officers did not see the knife initially. The officers first saw him holding the knife while they were on the passenger side of the vehicle. The “main” video circulating on the internet shows Mr. Blake with the knife in his left hand when he rounds the front of the car. The officers issued repeated commands for Mr. Blake to drop the knife. He did not comply.
The officers initially tried to speak with Mr. Blake, but he was uncooperative.
The officers then began issuing verbal commands to Mr. Blake, but he was non-complaint.
The officers next went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake, so as to gain compliance and control.
Mr. Blake actively resisted the officers’ attempt to gain compliance.
The officers then disengaged and drew their tasers, issuing commands to Mr. Blake that he would be tased if he did not comply.
Based on his non-compliance, one officer tased Mr. Blake. The taser did not incapacitate Mr. Blake.
The officers once more went “hands-on” with Mr. Blake; again, trying to gain control of the escalating situation.
Mr. Blake forcefully fought with the officers, including putting one of the officers in a headlock.
A second taser (from a different officer than had deployed the initial taser) was then deployed on Mr. Blake. It did not appear to have any impact on him.
Based on the inability to gain compliance and control after using verbal, physical and less-lethal means, the officers drew their firearms.
Mr. Blake continued to ignore the officers’ commands, even with the threat of lethal force now present.
I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?
No, it does not seem to matter, except when it involves an officer shooting someone that they are taking into custody.
Don't know "who is who" in this situation, maybe there are several victims in the mix, but according to child support cases on WI-CCAP, the mother of several of his children is African American.
And she has put herself forward as his "fiancee"
I assume that is to give standing in any potential civil liability cases that might arise.
Blake holding a knife?
The kind of knife Blake was holding>
Sorry that my post replicated information already posted. Minor downside of comment moderation.
Change.org still says:
"On August 23rd, Jacob Blake was murdered at the hands of police officers who shot him in the back several times while getting into his car after trying to break up a fight between two white women."
I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?
How would one tell? By looking at the color of her skin? If you could tell, does it change how the officers should have protected her? If the genders were reversed, and the woman was previously abusive and had a restraining order against her; should the cops treat her differently than Jacob?
My comment at 9:36 AM
Should be: The kind of knife Blake was holding?
Are you saying, MS, that he had the knife on him the entire time? Even when being tased and struggling and putting an officer in a head lock?
Seems that the latter would lead to his dropping the knife.
I keep seeing that Jacob raped a 14 year old, but it looks like it’s not true? But the sexual assault charge that people think was against a 14 year old was actually this one in May against his ex-girlfriend. Can anyone confirm that?
Regardless, if that’s the case, Why has he been a free man since May? And why on earth were the three children with him and not the girlfriend/mother? If he was too dangerous to be around his girlfriend, and I think there was a restraining order, then he was too dangerous to be around those boys.
What about the kids in the car? Blake deliberately put them in harm’s way, but was he attempting to kidnap them in a stolen vehicle, or were they in his custody? If one of them had accidentally been shot dead would Blake be culpable under the felony murder rule?
I wonder if we will ever learn what his drug panel showed ?
The fundamental issue in this situation was that a Black did not want to be arrested by police officers.
If a Black does not consent to be arrested, then the police officers may not arrest him.
Everybody now realizes that black male felons are entitled to forcibly resist lawful arrest and if they are killed or injured in the process young blacks are entitled to go on a “free shopping” and arson spree and Democrat Brownshirts are entitled to riot for months.
Maybe it’s a form of reparation.
Fiancée?
From what I've read, despite the fact they have four kids together, they never actually lived together. They have four kids and never got married. She filed a restraining order against him. She called the cops on him.
Yeah I believe she's his fiancée.
Ferdinande... What you put your electronics through for the blog! I gotta go take another shower after reading your posts! Thanks for posting.
I keep seeing that Jacob raped a 14 year old, but it looks like it’s not true?
No, one of the three guys killed by Rittenhouse was the child rapist. Blake was accused of assaulting his (now) fiancée.
And this is why we wait for all relevant facts before we form opinions.
Or, opinions based on nothing more than a 15 second video are not just worthless, theyre dangerous.
Blacks riot and burn shit down over absolute scum like George Floyd and Jake Blake. Whites don't do shit when our 5 year olds are shot in the head point-blank.
This is why we'll lose.
Mark, that's what the cops thought, too. Wrongly, it turns out. They thought that tasing him twice would do it as well. That didn't work either.
The police ordered him to drop the knife. That's when Jacob ignored them and their drawn weapons and decided to reach under the car's seat. A curved, sharp-pointed knife is clearly in his hand as he was rounding the silver SUV.
I think he was trying suicide by cop.
Well. Restraining order. Wondered about that. So, assuming the then Ex- GF (now fiancé) had custody of the kids, how was it ok for the kids to end up in the car? Did ex really give him the kids voluntarily after she’d called 911? Could it have been a noncustodial parent kidnapping situation? Or at least Reasonably appeared that way to the cops? Anyone think that scenario could be dangerous for the kids, if Blake drove off with them, in the midst of a nasty domestic dispute? Might the cops reasonably think so?
With Blake, considering the outstanding warrant and new violation of restraining order, certainly realizing that if the cops successfully arrested him, he was immediately going to jail. I‘m guessing he didn’t want to go to jail. Sometimes suspects do stupid, desperate crap to avoid going to jail. (Observation as a Former Defense counsel.)
Admittedly lots of inferences and some assumptions here, but if there’s a flaw in my logic, please tell me. Willing to listen.
Kenosha Professional Police Association Releases Details on Blake Shooting
What do the Democrat Mayor and the Democrat Governor say about these facts?
Why haven't those two Democrat officials themselves informed the public about these facts?
BTW, kudos to you Althouse for uncovering that complaint from May in yesterday’s post.
Bloggers doing the work American journalists refuse to do ... once again.
Joe Biden said having a knife is unarmed.
So cops should shoot the perp in the leg.
Think on that a minute.
I'm trolling
This is known. It is inconvenient, however, so it is ignored by the large media, including ESPN which left the sports business years ago to pursue a career in Social Justice, whatever that is.
Mike Sylwester said...
If a Black does not consent to be arrested, then the police officers may not arrest him.
I think that is where we are headed under a Biden-Harris administration that will end (once and for all) "systemic racism."
Mike Sylwester said...
Blake holding a knife?
The kind of knife Blake was holding>
8/29/20, 9:36 AM
Just so we're clear for those who didn't look, that was no boxcutter, no Swiss Army knife, no paring knife or carpet knife. That was a knife designed for one thing: killing human beings.
It looks like the Spyderco Harpy or Civilian that Hannibal Lecter used in the sequel. The wielder of such a knife, assuming he chose it and knows it and did not get it from a box of Cracker Jack, is a very dangerous man.
in other words, it is systemic.
"I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?"
People arguing either way on this are missing Ms. Althouse's point. Notice the italics.
She's being subtle. I'll be less so.
Black Vaginas Matter
> Does it matter?
The video shows overfat black women screaming and roaming the scene of the domestic disturbance/arrest
bet the cops love that jungle...
"Blake, 29, was forbidden from going to the Kenosha home ..." in real English would read, "Blake, 29, was forbidden to go to the Kenosha home ...."
Chris Rock - How not to get your ass kicked by the police!
I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?
No. Not unless you think feminist principles only apply to white women.
Did Blake decide to play “macho man” because the boys were there?
You won't hear about this on CNN or Rachel Maddo's Chi com liar show.
Walters pulled a gun and proceeded to shoot Nick Wall in the head and torso, killing him. He then decided to shoot Laura Anderson in the head, killing her. Both slain in the front yard of the young lady's new, first home.
The glaring and demonstrable fact about nearly all of these people involved in police shootings is that they're god-awful people. There's no better way to honor their memory than by engaging in looting and arson. That's what they stood for.....I think lots of people have very sour memories of Floyd, Blake, Brown, Martin, but they will never, ever come forward to catalogue the harm visited on them by these men, and, of course, no reporter will ever seek them out to tell their stories. We will, however, learn everything there is to know about George Zimmerman's failed marriage.
Her name is Laquisha Booker. No, I can't tell whether or not she is black either.
This is why everyone should check out Zero Hedge daily
Local ABC affiliate WISN-TV in Milwaukee is reporting Friday afternoon that Jacob Blake's attorney has told the station that the felony warrant against Blake has just been vacated.
Further, deputies have been reported as removing the handcuffs that kept Blake shackled to his hospital bed at Froedtert Hospital in Wauwatosa.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/felony-warrant-against-jacob-blake-has-been-vacated-handcuffs-removed-blakes-attorney
You can jump to the WISN-TV story from Zero Hedge
John Henry
Why didn't she call the social worker?
Color Matters to a diversitist, yes. To normal people, no. A color bias is intrinsic. A color prejudice is progressive. Bigotry is... well, principles matter.
Joe Biden said having a knife is unarmed.
Biden likes to play with double-edged scalpels.
"but if there’s a flaw in my logic, please tell me. Willing to listen." [Hauptfrau]
The presence of the kids in the car showed it was all a joke. Just passing dramas. None of it was serious, ever. Or serious for a day, a week. That's partly why Blake didn't want to be bothered by the cops. All just baby-mama drama. One big happy family, like the relatives keep saying.
Different definitions of everything. Can't live in the white-man's world. Cracker laws and the stupid racists who enforce them.
How do we solve a conflict like this? Live down to those low expectations? Force stupids to comply with the same laws as everyone else? No matter how stupid, someone's got to comply with the cops in an extreme, such as tasers and guns.
It's hard for white people to comprehend what was going on -- she filed restraining orders against Blake for rape and assault but he was there for a BBQ, and then the kids were in her car but he was stealing the keys. The ex-GF, now fiancé, called the police but now is outraged that the police discharged his gun in front of the children. Why did she call the police? For the kids or for the car? Why didn't she get the kids out of the car before calling the police? She claims she was screaming about the kids but all I heard was someone screaming at the woman to get away from the scene. So much screaming I doubt the police had any idea there were children in the ca and the kids weren't mentioned in her call.
I can understand why the GF wants in on the cash settlement but what does Blake get out of this new arrangement? I know in some Muslim countries if the rapist marries the woman all is forgiven. Maybe this is a similar situation so she'll drop the charges?. Still, does he need to marry her, or is it just a permanent fiancé/financial arrangement? I need someone from the Black community to explain all this.
I too await the toxicology report.
Gahrie said...
Yeah I believe she's his fiancée.
I see two perspectives.
1. Many single black women with children call the father, fiancee. I provides a bit of social cover to the relationship or lack there of
2. When the victim tries a civil suit of damages, the sexual assault victim wants to be able to cash in. her pain, lack of consortium, etc. you can make those claims as a wife or fiancee, not as the gal who called the cops
Any sign of a response from the gutless Governor that already tried and convicted the cops in the court of public opinion?
disgusting.
The police may be guilty, but they deserve to have the evidence gathered, a GJ, trial and conviction first
“ I know in some Muslim countries if the rapist marries the woman all is forgiven. Maybe this is a similar situation so she'll drop the charges?. Still, does he need to marry her, or is it just a permanent fiancé/financial arrangement? I need someone from the Black community to explain all this.”
Partially the spousal privilege. Without her testimony, how do they make much of a case against him? Which gives them both an incentive to marry. He reduces his chances significantly of being convicted of the felony, since she can’t testify against him (and wouldn’t want to) and that increases the chance of a significant settlement. And of course, if she marries him, she can expect a significant portion of the settlement, made larger by her not testifying against him. Moreover, with him partially paralyzed, he probably won’t have a chance to rape her again, but will likely be dependent on her. Win/Win.
Are sex crimes on women a big deal? Of course they are, at least to anyone without serious emotional disturbances. Yet the Democrat media complex blows it off when it interrupts their narrative. Heck, Keith Ellison said sex crimes on women should be responded to by social workers, not police.
Another possible aspect to the situation, re: the restraining order. Hopefully someone can enlighten me regarding WI law on the matter.
I'm from Texas, and in Texas, violation of a protective order is a SHALL ARREST offense for peace officers. This means that if the cops fail to take the violator into custody, they are actually breaking the law.
So, if the same applies under WI law, as soon as those officers identified Blake (the enjoined party) and his ex-GF/fiancee/baby mama (the protected party), they would have been required by law to arrest Blake. Which would make everything else going on with kids, car keys, and warrants irrelevant.
Now, like I said, that's Texas law, so if anyone can enlighten me on WI law, I'd appreciate it.
(Aside: I'll lay odds that the felony warrant for sexual assault was vacated because the victim, who now claims to be his fiancee, told them she wanted to drop the charges. The prospect of Blake receiving a large $$$ payout may or may not have influenced that decision.)
Kai: you are probably correct. Thanks. I think I remember reading that the caller later became somewhat uncooperative.
Rosalyn: also good points. Note, it was about the car; call was about the keys. See Mike Sylvester‘s summary.
I know that family members frequently lie, but quite blatant here (Blake didn‘t have a knife; he was just a Good Samaritan trying to break up a fight; he was shot 7 or 8 times—Not 4 like his attorney said, etc). But disappointing that the MSM and the Evers administration uncritically parrot the version of people with an obvious motivation to lie.
I can't tell whether the woman is black. Does it matter?
Why are we even talking about this? I haven't seen anyone bring up the race of the assault victim as a factor in the Blake shooting!
You leftists sure know how to pick your heroes.
Jacob Blake's family to lead Kenosha rally against police violence
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Event organizers said the demonstration would include a march to the Kenosha County Courthouse and speeches by members of Blake's family, Lt. Gov. Mandela Barnes, U.S. Rep. Gwen Moore and other community leaders.
“We are heartbroken and enraged, but we are steadfast in our demand for justice,” Tanya Mclean, a Blake family friend who helped organize the event, said in a statement. She said Blake's shooting is not an isolated incident, but part of a “brutal, racist system.”
“We’re here to demand an end to police violence and systemic racism in Kenosha,” Mclean said. “No more piecemeal reforms and useless committees. No more Band-Aid solutions over the bullet wounds. The time for transformational change is now.”
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Ben Crump, an attorney for Blake's family has said Blake did nothing to provoke police and has called for Sheskey's arrest.
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Good year..for Crump. Unclear whether Blake's mom will speak.
You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything.
Crack. Right on time with a stupid, shallow message free of any tethering to reality.
"We’re here to demand an end to police violence and systemic racism in Kenosha"
IOW, even the non-rioters perpetuate the lie. Or do they mean that Kenosha should end the racism of letting predatory black men ruin their own communities?
The Crack Emcee said...
You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything.
No, Crack, what you can't justify is resisting arrest in that situation (you know they're cops. They've told you they're here to arrest you).
I can easily justify pretty much anything that's done to you, once you've decided to start teh violence.
Which is what Blake did
"You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything."
Wrong again Crack. Shootings are justified if the cop has reason to believe he, or others may be in danger. We may disagree on this, but, to me, a felon who has just fought with the cops, shrugged off two tasers and is reaching into a car and has a knife.... As I say we'll likely disagree.
Now, if for just a minute, you can imagine the guy was a deadly menace, shooting is justified. And if shooting is justified he needs shot until the cop(s) are damn sure the danger is past. You can't seriously think the cops should say, "I shot once. Now I need to assess his mental state and physical ability to keep fighting". Ooops, he's now turning towards me with the knife. Bang. Time to reassess. Dang, I got a knife in my ribs.
Apparently he was hit four times. Yet he did not die. That demonstrates the stupidity of the SEVEN TIMES outrage. If it took seven shot/four hits before he was no danger, seven shots was the correct number. If it took seventeen shots, then seventeen would have been the correct number.
It also really makes the Biden statement about if the perp is unarmed,like with a knife, shoot him in the leg one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.
The Crack Emcee said...
You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything.
I am not trying to justify it, but to understand what happened.
Apparently Mr. Blake had Black Privilege (i.e., the right to completely ignore the police) and was able to shrug off the officers and ignore a taser (probably a misfire). As he went to his car, the cops should have done what Crack?
"You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything."
According to a lawyer for Blake's family, he was shot four times. The other three missed.
As long as blacks are forgiven their sins if they only resist police....
Blogger The Crack Emcee said...
You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything.
Crack thinks he can win the race war.
Remember what Stalin said about the Pope's divisions ?
Black males are 5% of the population and commit 50% of the crime. Mostly they are shooting each other.
" What are police supposed to do with domestic abuse calls in the Black community? "
They need to set up a BLACK911 so all the AA callers can be routed to AA officers. And the rest of us can ignore their shenanigans.
"You can't justify shooting a guy seven times in the back with anything"
Self defense experts say to keep shooting until the attacker stops moving or you run out of ammunition, which ever comes first. The fact that he has turned his back doesn't make any difference, he could be reaching for a gun--keep shooting.
What have we created? We have a Capitol City in Wash, DC that has $ 4 Trillion dollars flowing through it...every year. Who is sent to that Capitol City...who burrows into it like ticks. The Wash DC game is for all the marbles. You can be as rich as Bruce Hayden, and not even taste the life of DC. People smile at you, ALL the time. They cock their heads to you when you talk, as if you are pontificating the wisdom of the ages. You make the rules. It's intoxicating. You can have whatever you want. Girls? Boys? Money? Revenge? Anything.
We elect people to DC, then ignore them. They drown in the swamp. Would you drown in the swamp? Everyone drowns in the swamp.
On the number of shots: When I first heard about this case, I wondered how the officer could have shot the guy 7 times at close range and not killed him. Is police marksmanship in Wisconsin that bad? Then I heard that the victim was only hit 4 times. And is still not dead (maybe paralyzed). So is police marksmanship even worse than I thought, or were 3 shots intentional misses, "to get his attention"? And then 4 shots fired for effect? I don't know, and I suspect that when this all shakes out we're going to know a lot of stuff about this incident that we don't know now.
Not that any such uncertainty should stop anyone from getting a free giant flat screen TV.
Yep, truth comes out and...crickets. Video from a single POV that lasted maybe 15 seconds didn't show the whole story. Kenosha burned because of it. No mea culpas, we were wrong, etc. from the MSM. No shame in their game. At least the Kenosha mayor is sort of standing with the cops on this. If it weren't for recent polling, though, would he really do that?
Fernandinande said...
The Karen Who Called the Cops on Jacob Blake Now Calls Herself His Fiancée now that Blake’s financial prospects are looking up"
Dude that link goes to a seriously-disturbed and disturbing Web site. I think they are every bit the kind of race hustler that Reverend Al is, from the opposite side.
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