Since Char Char's comment slipped by me in an earlier thread:
"Blogger Char Char Binks, Esq. said... I don’t see “Have another cup of coffee!” as sarcastic. I see it as “You posted this at sunrise-ish, and maybe the irony slipped past you.”
You are right, of course. And it was, to my mind, entirely innocuous.
But as we all know, while Althouse is tough and brave in some ways, she is also touchy and sensitive in other ways. Where you and I would respond with "Guess I should!," and not give it another thought, we get a defensive dismissal of "sarcasm," with an elaborate theory about how sarcasm is cheap etc. etc.
I miss going to church with my wife. The Anglican liturgy is beautiful and could have been written by Shakespeare. I get tired of mundane, boring political secularism. I miss sitting in church next to my wife, hearing her singing hymns and going up together for the Eucharist. I miss the drive to and back from church, the conversation there and then back. I miss the people I talk to over a cup of coffee after the service. I hope this current madness ends soon.
You have to be careful with Breyers. Make sure the package says "ice cream". They also make something called "frozen dessert food" or somesuch in a package that is almost identical. Read the package carefully to make sure you are getting what you want.
I picked up a coupla quarts on sale after a long hiatus from the product, and, it's even worse than it was a few years ago.
I just moved into a new house, and my housewarming present to myself is a new ice cream maker. ( The old one died about 10 years ago. ) I also dug out my Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream Cookbook.
First up: Spearmint ice cream, because the garden here is overrun with spearmint.
I've started in on the whole work-up at Seattle Cancer Care Alliance in preparation for a stem cell transplant next month. If I've responded well to the treatment so far, it will be early next month. If not, it will be late next month.
Local dairy and ice cream is the best. Richardson's in Middleton MA is my preferred choice. Having moved away to Maine I've got to find a new, reliable, favorite.
On the ocean our sunrises these days are not orange. Gray or blue or some combo of the two.
"Ha! You peasants eat Breyer's?" --N. Pelosi, Speaker of the Hoax
be vewy, vewy careful: Democratic Party sets rules for criticizing Biden's VP pick Kamala Harris Hillary Clinton and Valerie Jarrett operatives sign a missive that warns what media message must be
I think Mead and you should go out on a boat and take sunrise pictures from the boat Would give us a whole new look. I assume you can swim.
BTW, while driving hom, I saw two teenagers doing the most dangerous absurd thing. They were on motorized adult scooters, going 30 MPH, in t-shirts and shorts, without adequate head gear. And of course, blowing through the stop signs and stop lights.
"The Trump of the wheels has seriously neutered educational indoctrination?
And people don't believe God has blessed America?"
But as we all know, while Althouse is tough and brave in some ways, she is also touchy and sensitive in other ways. Where you and I would respond with "Guess I should!," and not give it another thought, we get a defensive dismissal of "sarcasm," with an elaborate theory about how sarcasm is cheap etc. etc.
Democratic Party sets rules for criticizing Biden's VP pick Kamala Harris
Any criticism that speaks facts to truth, will be classified as hate speech, and the speaker will be subject to cancellation, and prison, if NY AG et al have an opportunity to exercise liberal license to progress leftist precedents. Hate speech, diversity dogma, and other Pro-Choice quasi-religious doctrines, projections, are sacrosanct politically congruent constructs, providing novel, renewable, indispensable leverage for their political, social, and economic special and peculiar interests.
"You know, I'm so old I remember when Breyers actually made good ice cream."
I'm old, but not that old. The first I ever bought tasted like ice milk with actual ice crystals laced through it. Nothing I've ever eaten since has struck me as any different. Can't believe that they are still in business much less charging full price for a second tier product.
Ignorance is Bliss said... I've started in on the whole work-up at Seattle Cancer Care Alliance in preparation for a stem cell transplant next month. If I've responded well to the treatment so far, it will be early next month. If not, it will be late next month.
God bless you, Iggy. I've given BMSC through the NMDP; it would be cheap to offer you mine direct but if we matched up through the system what a hoot that'd be.
Re: Breyer's, that used to be THE ice cream. Sometime after Unilever bought them, they switched up the classic formula and started using Tara gum. The first time I started in on a new tub unawares, I thought the dishwasher had left soap residue on the spoon. After repeated trials...no, they screwed it up.
No looking back. Turkey Hill All Natural (black label) is the closest substitute I know.
Thank you for that. I was raised Episcopalian and agree the old style litergy is a thing of beauty. I too miss going to services in person. We aren't close to the other parishioners, but it didn't take many weeks of watching rather than attending mass for my devout Catholic wife and I to say screw it, this isn't working.
@limited perspective... Episcopal liturgy is indeed beautiful speech. Interestingly the English tongue in the Church of England’s you Book of Common Prayer is taken straight out of Wm. Tyndale’s translations( as was the 90% of the KJV Bible). Tyndale was raised in a town along the Severn River just past where the Avon River running through Stratford joined it and at the Irish Sea and the border country with Wales. So Will Shakespeare and Will Tyndale both grew up in the Wales-England border area where everyone spoke the beautiful Welch speech patterns mixed with many English words. That border area resulted in the creation of the English we speak more so than Oxford.
Graeter's ice cream - made in Cincinnati - is one of the best I've ever tried. I first had it many years ago when I visited a friend in Cincinnati and then one day a few years ago, I spotted it at Sendik's in Milwaukee. Oh, joy - wonderful peach ice cream. Oh, curses, because it now takes great willpower to walk past the ice cream aisle at Sendik's without picking up a pint.
When I first showed up at this blog I made comments w/ weaknesses.
Back then, selectively deleting my comments before they could be seen by other readers wasn’t required.
Anywho, I guess I shouldn’t have noted that it’s funny to see Althouse hating other people’s free speech re Twitter and Marge. Cause now she’s back to banning my jabber. Again.
P.S. WaPo is making a big deal re WI. Not that Althouse’s thinking is driven re factionalism and tribalism such that she’s susceptible to bias re her bubble v being non-navel-gazey and cruelly logical.
I hope Durham sticks to the schedule and comes out the last day of summer. This would throw him into the 60 day briar patch. Would love to see the Democrats make an issue out of it. “No fair, weren’t spozed to talk about our criminal activities.”
It’s pretty funny when the people who are scared of masks present a link that shows that masks seem to help even after correcting for the overstatement.
I would like to hear n.n.’s explanation of why he thinks masks are worthless or even harmful. I respect his intelligence. He did provide a link the other day that he said was “quick” but it started out with a 20 or 30 second intro of a guy’s logo with “It’s a Gift to be Simple” playing at what seemed like about 51 BPM and then the guy carried that cadence into his own introduction where he sonorously intoned that "people. had. asked. him... to .. make. a shorter... version.. of .. “ some other video proving that masks were worthless. I couldn’t get through it. I would rather hear n.n give me the strongest points from that video, or whatever he thinks the strongest arguments against masks are, in his own words. The rest of you lot need not apply.
I was a fan of Breyer's since I was a little kid. Then they changed the ratio and type of ingredients so that the majority of their product line is now a "Dairy Dessert". No thanks. I buy the local ice cream shop's stuff at a premium price but it's a treat now.
THEOLDMAN
Down 20 lbs in 6 weeks; eliminated added sugar, smaller portions, more grazing and low-sodium for my health. Then there's that exercise thing. Walking in 90 degree heat
Among the entire sample, 31% described themselves as Democrats, 27% described themselves as Republicans, and 42% described themselves as independents or members of another party.
A total of 1,108 adults, including an oversample of 305 adults living in 15 battleground states (Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin) were interviewed by telephone
So if GA, MN, NH, NC, OH, TX, and WI have open primaries when you poll 'independents' you're not necessarily getting a squishy middle but rather an undefined mix of them and hard core party line voters who like to crossover in primaries.
The true makeup of that mix is left for us to guess. Anyone wanna guess they oversample Republican 'independents'?
...and I didn't do a deep dive but did they disclose the percentage of young voters sampled? Suspiciously hidden if dosclosed at all...
This spot is a touch stone to normal. We are at 7 days no electricity. We found a generator at day two, so we can run the fridge and miscellaneous luxuries if we string another extension cord Power companies saying full power across their service area Wednesday. This is a huge area, and the national media is refusing to mention it. So no appeals to Red Cross, and other relief. But this storm foot print, Nebraska to Ohio, 80 miles wide, is the very core of flyover country, so we don’t exist to the elites.
Bay Area Guy: "CNN poll - Biden's lead down to 50-46. In battleground states: Across 15 battleground states, the survey finds Biden has the backing of 49% of registered voters, while Trump lands at 48%. 49-48 in battleground states, after Kammy is named."
If the polls, which traditionally always show the republican way behind in key states in July/Aug going back to Reagan, are already being adjusted to show Trump competitiveness, then Trump is ahead in the battleground states.
Period.
The only remaining question: is Trump ahead of Biden beyond the margin of democratic fraud (which, interestingly, LLR-lefty Chuck passionately claims never occurs. Ever)
One of the things that has not been made overly public about the charging Friday of Kevin Clinesmith is that he was working for the Mueller SC investigation at the time that he changed the email from the (apparently) CIA that Carter Page was an asset of theirs, and reported to them on his Russian contacts, which was submitted to the FISC in order to get the 3rd FISA extension on Page. Putting it all together, an attorney for the Mueller SC investigation has admitted to a felony, materially changing a document, in order to get FISA warrant coverage over Page (and the people in the Trump campaign well into the Trump Administration, along with all of the illegal FISA Title VII political surveillance) for the sole use of the Mueller investigation. Moreover, this is more evidence that the Mueller investigation knew, with a certainty, from at least June of 2017, that there never had been collusion between Trump and his campaign, and the Russian government.
Why did they need the FISA warrant? As noted above, it provided them quasi legal access to Results of the illegally obtained 702 database searching, ended by Adm Rogers in spring of 2016. But probably more importantly, it allowed for eavesdropping and electronic surveillance of Trump and his top people without the need to go into district court and show probable cause.
Comey earlier admitted what they (at that time) were doing - running a dual criminal/counterintelligence investigation in order to get evidence of (hoped for) crimes without the need to show probable cause. That is essentially illegal. FISA cannot legally be used to provide evidence of crimes. Instead, crimes discovered coincidentally and inadvertently pursuant to a FISA warrant can be used in criminal prosecutions. That wasn’t what was happening. What the FBI was doing under Comey, immediately followed by the Mueller SC investigation (authorized in the wake of the Comey firing), was bootstrapping a criminal investigation using FISA warrants, since, of course, they never had the probable cause needed for a regular warrant, that could be used to investigate Trump, his campaign, Carter Page, George Papadopoulis, etc.
What is interesting about that approach is that FBI agents and attorneys know not to lie, even by omission, on Wiretap Act Warrant applications in district courts. But, because FISA warrant applications are secret and classified, they are not so constrained. The Clinesmith admission of guilt is one of the few times that they have been able to show that the FBI people involved in getting the four FISA warrants lied by commission. IG Horowitz found 17 inaccuracies in the 4 FISA warrants. Likely the other 16 were lies by omission. They knew, since at least August, 2016, that Carter Page was not a Russian asset, but rather was a CIA asset. That information was material to the 4 FISA warrants Because that meant that he was one of the good guys. (They also failed to inform the FISC that he had been one of their own assets, working with them to make cases from 2013 up through March of 2016, 7 months before they filed their first FISA application on him).
It would be a good time to shitcan ethanol. It’s long overdue. We are energy independent. We don’t need to fuck up the Gulf of Mexico or keep digging up what’s left of our prairies just so mega agribusinesses can live large milking taxpayers for subsidies. Price of corn won’t drop.
“ Bruce, you had better explain this to gadfly as he was in a lather yesterday about Clinesmith and his "technical" error.”
It wasn’t a technical error - because, for one thing, Clinesmith is admitting that he MATERIALLY altered the email. By definition, if the misstatement (or document alteration here) was “material”, it is not a mere “technical” error. It is material because if the alteration had not been made, and the document submitted to the FISC included the document, it is likely that the FISA warrant would not have been issued, since that court would haves known that Page was a CIA asset, and not a Russian asset. One of the good guys.
Just a random thought: When did violinists (and violists, and cellists, etc.) feel the need to move around while they're playing? Really, we don't need to see how much you're apparently feeling what you're playing and it's distracting. Just sit there and play.
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55 comments:
Looks like Mendota is being overfished.
Since Char Char's comment slipped by me in an earlier thread:
"Blogger Char Char Binks, Esq. said...
I don’t see “Have another cup of coffee!” as sarcastic. I see it as “You posted this at sunrise-ish, and maybe the irony slipped past you.”
You are right, of course. And it was, to my mind, entirely innocuous.
But as we all know, while Althouse is tough and brave in some ways, she is also touchy and sensitive in other ways. Where you and I would respond with "Guess I should!," and not give it another thought, we get a defensive dismissal of "sarcasm," with an elaborate theory about how sarcasm is cheap etc. etc.
You know, I'm so old I remember when Breyers actually made good ice cream.
I picked up a coupla quarts on sale after a long hiatus from the product, and, it's even worse than it was a few years ago. Sad!
I miss going to church with my wife. The Anglican liturgy is beautiful and could have been written by Shakespeare. I get tired of mundane, boring political secularism. I miss sitting in church next to my wife, hearing her singing hymns and going up together for the Eucharist. I miss the drive to and back from church, the conversation there and then back. I miss the people I talk to over a cup of coffee after the service. I hope this current madness ends soon.
You have to be careful with Breyers. Make sure the package says "ice cream". They also make something called "frozen dessert food" or somesuch in a package that is almost identical. Read the package carefully to make sure you are getting what you want.
I got fooled twice like that.
YoungHegelian said...
I picked up a coupla quarts on sale after a long hiatus from the product, and, it's even worse than it was a few years ago.
I just moved into a new house, and my housewarming present to myself is a new ice cream maker. ( The old one died about 10 years ago. ) I also dug out my Ben & Jerry's Ice Cream Cookbook.
First up: Spearmint ice cream, because the garden here is overrun with spearmint.
I've started in on the whole work-up at Seattle Cancer Care Alliance in preparation for a stem cell transplant next month. If I've responded well to the treatment so far, it will be early next month. If not, it will be late next month.
@Jersey Fled,
Oh, no, it's Breyers' 'Ice Cream" all right. That much I know how to look for.
I really need to start making my own vanilla ice cream again. It's just so much better than almost all store bought.
Local dairy and ice cream is the best. Richardson's in Middleton MA is my preferred choice. Having moved away to Maine I've got to find a new, reliable, favorite.
On the ocean our sunrises these days are not orange. Gray or blue or some combo of the two.
Circling back to teh Grateful Dead. Whomever it was among the commenters that touted China Cat Sunflower as one of their best, I must agree. Wow!
Outstanding live version: https://youtu.be/xCgZxrf8nrU
"Ha! You peasants eat Breyer's?" --N. Pelosi, Speaker of the Hoax
be vewy, vewy careful:
Democratic Party sets rules for criticizing Biden's VP pick Kamala Harris
Hillary Clinton and Valerie Jarrett operatives sign a missive that warns what media message must be
https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/11/democratic-party-sets-rules-for-criticizing-bidens/
OK-- Who's next? Priestap? McCabe??
Can you believe this?
Link
Iman, it wasn't me that posted it, but I remember reading the same post and nodding my head.
I think Mead and you should go out on a boat and take sunrise pictures from the boat Would give us a whole new look. I assume you can swim.
BTW, while driving hom, I saw two teenagers doing the most dangerous absurd thing. They were on motorized adult scooters, going 30 MPH, in t-shirts and shorts, without adequate head gear. And of course, blowing through the stop signs and stop lights.
Oh, to be brave, young, and dumb again.
Kansas health officials present manipulated, deceptive chart to mislead public about mask effectiveness
"The Trump of the wheels has seriously neutered educational indoctrination?
And people don't believe God has blessed America?"
But as we all know, while Althouse is tough and brave in some ways, she is also touchy and sensitive in other ways. Where you and I would respond with "Guess I should!," and not give it another thought, we get a defensive dismissal of "sarcasm," with an elaborate theory about how sarcasm is cheap etc. etc.
8/16/20, 7:21 PM
Best wishes, IiB.
My favorite, Bryer's Coffee Ice Cream, used to have a simple ingredient list: Sugar, Cream, Coffee.
No more.
Democratic Party sets rules for criticizing Biden's VP pick Kamala Harris
Any criticism that speaks facts to truth, will be classified as hate speech, and the speaker will be subject to cancellation, and prison, if NY AG et al have an opportunity to exercise liberal license to progress leftist precedents. Hate speech, diversity dogma, and other Pro-Choice quasi-religious doctrines, projections, are sacrosanct politically congruent constructs, providing novel, renewable, indispensable leverage for their political, social, and economic special and peculiar interests.
@Ignorance I Bliss
we've been pullin' for ya-- hang tough.
"You know, I'm so old I remember when Breyers actually made good ice cream."
I'm old, but not that old. The first I ever bought tasted like ice milk with actual ice crystals laced through it. Nothing I've ever eaten since has struck me as any different. Can't believe that they are still in business much less charging full price for a second tier product.
Ignorance is Bliss said...
I've started in on the whole work-up at Seattle Cancer Care Alliance in preparation for a stem cell transplant next month. If I've responded well to the treatment so far, it will be early next month. If not, it will be late next month.
God bless you, Iggy. I've given BMSC through the NMDP; it would be cheap to offer you mine direct but if we matched up through the system what a hoot that'd be.
Re: Breyer's, that used to be THE ice cream. Sometime after Unilever bought them, they switched up the classic formula and started using Tara gum. The first time I started in on a new tub unawares, I thought the dishwasher had left soap residue on the spoon. After repeated trials...no, they screwed it up.
No looking back. Turkey Hill All Natural (black label) is the closest substitute I know.
Why WILL people mess with a good thing?!
Ignorance is Bliss, good luck.
Limited Perspective,
Thank you for that. I was raised Episcopalian and agree the old style litergy is a thing of beauty. I too miss going to services in person. We aren't close to the other parishioners, but it didn't take many weeks of watching rather than attending mass for my devout Catholic wife and I to say screw it, this isn't working.
@limited perspective... Episcopal liturgy is indeed beautiful speech. Interestingly the English tongue in the Church of England’s you Book of Common Prayer is taken straight out of Wm. Tyndale’s translations( as was the 90% of the KJV Bible). Tyndale was raised in a town along the Severn River just past where the Avon River running through Stratford joined it and at the Irish Sea and the border country with Wales. So Will Shakespeare and Will Tyndale both grew up in the Wales-England border area where everyone spoke the beautiful Welch speech patterns mixed with many English words. That border area resulted in the creation of the English we speak more so than Oxford.
Peace be with you.
Boy does this suck!!!
...Check out Team Hoe/Joe's new logo!
Graeter's ice cream - made in Cincinnati - is one of the best I've ever tried. I first had it many years ago when I visited a friend in Cincinnati and then one day a few years ago, I spotted it at Sendik's in Milwaukee. Oh, joy - wonderful peach ice cream. Oh, curses, because it now takes great willpower to walk past the ice cream aisle at Sendik's without picking up a pint.
Will Biden convention acceptance speech be live or recorded?
Richardson's in Middleton MA
The local ice cream when I was growing up was Buttrick's. Occasionally got some after swimming lessons in Walden Pond. And here is a photo.
Music by Michael Nyman, for all the blue cities out there. It's called The Burning.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J31j8Tw2Sws
@Ignorance is Bliss, good luck with your treatments.
Best ice cream: Tillamook
Best flavor: Mountain Huckleberry
When I first showed up at this blog I made comments w/ weaknesses.
Back then, selectively deleting my comments before they could be seen by other readers wasn’t required.
Anywho, I guess I shouldn’t have noted that it’s funny to see Althouse hating other people’s free speech re Twitter and Marge. Cause now she’s back to banning my jabber. Again.
P.S. WaPo is making a big deal re WI. Not that Althouse’s thinking is driven re factionalism and tribalism such that she’s susceptible to bias re her bubble v being non-navel-gazey and cruelly logical.
CNN poll - Biden's lead down to 50-46. .
In battleground states:
Across 15 battleground states, the survey finds Biden has the backing of 49% of registered voters, while Trump lands at 48%.
49-48 in battleground states, after Kammy is named.
This is CNN.
Bill Barr Injures Back While Trying to Lift Mailbox Into Truck
I hope Durham sticks to the schedule and comes out the last day of summer. This would throw him into the 60 day briar patch. Would love to see the Democrats make an issue out of it. “No fair, weren’t spozed to talk about our criminal activities.”
Ignorance is Bliss. Pullin for ya , mate.
"This would throw him into the 60 day briar patch. “
That’s why they didn’t indict Casper Weinberger or Ted Stevens immediately prior to the election. Good to know.
It’s pretty funny when the people who are scared of masks present a link that shows that masks seem to help even after correcting for the overstatement.
I would like to hear n.n.’s explanation of why he thinks masks are worthless or even harmful. I respect his intelligence. He did provide a link the other day that he said was “quick” but it started out with a 20 or 30 second intro of a guy’s logo with “It’s a Gift to be Simple” playing at what seemed like about 51 BPM and then the guy carried that cadence into his own introduction where he sonorously intoned that "people. had. asked. him... to .. make. a shorter... version.. of .. “ some other video proving that masks were worthless. I couldn’t get through it. I would rather hear n.n give me the strongest points from that video, or whatever he thinks the strongest arguments against masks are, in his own words. The rest of you lot need not apply.
"You know, I'm so old I remember when Breyers actually made good ice cream.
So you were Young when Hegel was alive then?
I was a fan of Breyer's since I was a little kid. Then they changed the ratio and type of ingredients so that the majority of their product line is now a "Dairy Dessert". No thanks. I buy the local ice cream shop's stuff at a premium price but it's a treat now.
THEOLDMAN
Down 20 lbs in 6 weeks; eliminated added sugar, smaller portions, more grazing and low-sodium for my health. Then there's that exercise thing. Walking in 90 degree heat
Good luck and best wishes Ig. Hutch took good care of my father in law for a month. You're with the right people!
From that CNN poll of registered voters:
Among the entire sample, 31% described themselves as Democrats, 27% described themselves as Republicans, and 42% described themselves as independents or members of another party.
A total of 1,108 adults, including an oversample of 305 adults living in 15 battleground states (Arizona, Florida, Georgia, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, New Mexico, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Texas, and Wisconsin) were interviewed by telephone
So if GA, MN, NH, NC, OH, TX, and WI have open primaries when you poll 'independents' you're not necessarily getting a squishy middle but rather an undefined mix of them and hard core party line voters who like to crossover in primaries.
The true makeup of that mix is left for us to guess. Anyone wanna guess they oversample Republican 'independents'?
...and I didn't do a deep dive but did they disclose the percentage of young voters sampled? Suspiciously hidden if dosclosed at all...
This spot is a touch stone to normal.
We are at 7 days no electricity. We found a generator at day two, so we can run the fridge and miscellaneous luxuries if we string another extension cord
Power companies saying full power across their service area Wednesday. This is a huge area, and the national media is refusing to mention it. So no appeals to Red Cross, and other relief. But this storm foot print, Nebraska to Ohio, 80 miles wide, is the very core of flyover country, so we don’t exist to the elites.
Iowan2: You are right. If this were happening in the northeast, the media would be all over it. God bless you and your family.
Bay Area Guy: "CNN poll - Biden's lead down to 50-46.
In battleground states: Across 15 battleground states, the survey finds Biden has the backing of 49% of registered voters, while Trump lands at 48%.
49-48 in battleground states, after Kammy is named."
If the polls, which traditionally always show the republican way behind in key states in July/Aug going back to Reagan, are already being adjusted to show Trump competitiveness, then Trump is ahead in the battleground states.
Period.
The only remaining question: is Trump ahead of Biden beyond the margin of democratic fraud (which, interestingly, LLR-lefty Chuck passionately claims never occurs. Ever)
Hometowners from Youngstown OH have Handel's ice cream shipped to them all over the country. Truly fine ice cream.
One of the things that has not been made overly public about the charging Friday of Kevin Clinesmith is that he was working for the Mueller SC investigation at the time that he changed the email from the (apparently) CIA that Carter Page was an asset of theirs, and reported to them on his Russian contacts, which was submitted to the FISC in order to get the 3rd FISA extension on Page. Putting it all together, an attorney for the Mueller SC investigation has admitted to a felony, materially changing a document, in order to get FISA warrant coverage over Page (and the people in the Trump campaign well into the Trump Administration, along with all of the illegal FISA Title VII political surveillance) for the sole use of the Mueller investigation. Moreover, this is more evidence that the Mueller investigation knew, with a certainty, from at least June of 2017, that there never had been collusion between Trump and his campaign, and the Russian government.
Why did they need the FISA warrant? As noted above, it provided them quasi legal access to Results of the illegally obtained 702 database searching, ended by Adm Rogers in spring of 2016. But probably more importantly, it allowed for eavesdropping and electronic surveillance of Trump and his top people without the need to go into district court and show probable cause.
Comey earlier admitted what they (at that time) were doing - running a dual criminal/counterintelligence investigation in order to get evidence of (hoped for) crimes without the need to show probable cause. That is essentially illegal. FISA cannot legally be used to provide evidence of crimes. Instead, crimes discovered coincidentally and inadvertently pursuant to a FISA warrant can be used in criminal prosecutions. That wasn’t what was happening. What the FBI was doing under Comey, immediately followed by the Mueller SC investigation (authorized in the wake of the Comey firing), was bootstrapping a criminal investigation using FISA warrants, since, of course, they never had the probable cause needed for a regular warrant, that could be used to investigate Trump, his campaign, Carter Page, George Papadopoulis, etc.
What is interesting about that approach is that FBI agents and attorneys know not to lie, even by omission, on Wiretap Act Warrant applications in district courts. But, because FISA warrant applications are secret and classified, they are not so constrained. The Clinesmith admission of guilt is one of the few times that they have been able to show that the FBI people involved in getting the four FISA warrants lied by commission. IG Horowitz found 17 inaccuracies in the 4 FISA warrants. Likely the other 16 were lies by omission. They knew, since at least August, 2016, that Carter Page was not a Russian asset, but rather was a CIA asset. That information was material to the 4 FISA warrants Because that meant that he was one of the good guys. (They also failed to inform the FISC that he had been one of their own assets, working with them to make cases from 2013 up through March of 2016, 7 months before they filed their first FISA application on him).
Bruce, you had better explain this to gadfly as he was in a lather yesterday about Clinesmith and his "technical" error.
It would be a good time to shitcan ethanol. It’s long overdue. We are energy independent. We don’t need to fuck up the Gulf of Mexico or keep digging up what’s left of our prairies just so mega agribusinesses can live large milking taxpayers for subsidies. Price of corn won’t drop.
Iowan2, Trump just declared a state of emergency for Iowa.
@Doug:
"Homeowners from Youngstown OH have Handel's ice cream shipped to them all over the country. Truly fine ice cream"
Correction: Handel's ice cream in Redondo Beach, CA is the greatest.thing.ever.invented.by. mankind!
Also, Redonco Beach is south enough from LA to avoid the riots, protests, violence, homeless, and societal collapse.
Go get Handel's!
“ Bruce, you had better explain this to gadfly as he was in a lather yesterday about Clinesmith and his "technical" error.”
It wasn’t a technical error - because, for one thing, Clinesmith is admitting that he MATERIALLY altered the email. By definition, if the misstatement (or document alteration here) was “material”, it is not a mere “technical” error. It is material because if the alteration had not been made, and the document submitted to the FISC included the document, it is likely that the FISA warrant would not have been issued, since that court would haves known that Page was a CIA asset, and not a Russian asset. One of the good guys.
"scared of masks"
Yep. You've learned well from the Left's abuse of language and projections.
And yes, that link shows them helping "expodentially".
Just a random thought: When did violinists (and violists, and cellists, etc.) feel the need to move around while they're playing? Really, we don't need to see how much you're apparently feeling what you're playing and it's distracting. Just sit there and play.
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