This prompted Chief Justice John Roberts to issue a statement:
Justices know that criticism comes with the territory, but threatening statements of this sort from the highest levels of government are not only inappropriate, they are dangerous. All members of the court will continue to do their job, without fear or favor, from whatever quarter.Roberts's words are carefully chosen, perfectly framed. It's exactly the judgely thing to say, and he had the time and motivation to come up with the absolutely best thing and he got it right. Whether judges are ever intimidated and whether they do respond to political pressure — that's another matter, but it's nothing for the Chief Justice to put in his statement.
As for Chuck Schumer, I used the word "raved," but I don't really know if he got out of control emotionally and spat out ill-chosen words. Maybe he too chose his words carefully and they were perfect for his well-understood purpose. He knew they'd be noticed and he'd be criticized, but that doesn't make it accidental.
Look at the video embedded above. Schumer is reading his remarks. He's rallying an abortion-rights crowd and he's gesturing and using vocal intonation to stimulate their emotion and to get a big response. So I don't really think he's raving. He's playing his role just as carefully as Roberts played his. And I'll bet he could converse intelligently and at length — perhaps in a cozy room with law professors — about the propriety and effectiveness of political pressure aimed at the judiciary.
By the way, Schumer's "released the whirlwind" is, almost certainly, a reference to the Old Testament verse, "They sow the wind/And reap the whirlwind." He's predicting a "whirlwind" that will come as a result of something the Court has not even done. The whirlwind is, I take it, the people's intense reaction if and when the Court ever takes away abortion rights.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 245 of 245Someone needs to get in Shumer's face and tell him, "If anything happens to Gorsuch or Kavanaugh, Chuck--if they're accidentally shot by a police officer, if they hang themselves in a jail cell, if they're struck by a bolt of lightening, YOU will pay the price. You won't know what hit you."
The Court may rightfully reaffirm the non-controversial view that the Constitution is silent on the issue of abortion, and, thereby, allow the people, thru ordinary political and democratic process, to decide the issue.
Which, incidentally, really highlights the difference between left-wing and right-wing jurisprudence in the US.
If the right in the US used the same legal methods as the left, they'd cite the 14th Amendment and the logic of the German Constitutional Court in its 1975 decision to rule that there is a positive obligation for the Federal and state governments to prohibit abortion.
Althouse: "Whether judges are ever intimidated and whether they do respond to political pressure — that's another matter, but it's nothing for the Chief Justice to put in his statement."
CJ Roberts: "All members of the court will continue to do their job, without fear or favor, from whatever quarter."
Rabel: "I don't understand"
Personally, I wouldn't be excited about the right of a woman to have an abortion in a facility without hospital admitting priveleges.
Bottom line...
...Schumer signed the death warrant of the Democratic party.
If you want to pretend it's not a public invitation to assassination and physical intimidation and interpret it as harmless hyperbole, but how much more explicit would the threat have to be?
Overnight bloody horse head delivery?
And btw, now those judges are now going to have their hand forced in the ruling, if they rule for abortion, the left will figure out that mafia threats get results, if, and so, the only ruling that is possible with a view to future independence is to rule against.
If Schumer isn't punished for this, it will not be long before threats like that become routine and it's only a matter of time before some nutter will do what's being asked for here. Especially since it's the only reliable and instant way to get rid of an inconvenient Supreme Court judge, as is rumored to have happened with Mr. Scalia.
Hawkeye @ 8:35am,
Moloch. Duh.
He has quite a following these days.
There's a difference between a criticism and a threat, but watch the left try to conflate them next time Trump criticizes a judge.
ABA statement:
"Personal attacks on judges by any elected officials, including the president, are simply inappropriate," the ABA’s statement read. "Such comments challenge the reputation of the third, co-equal branch of our government; the independence of the judiciary; and the personal safety of judicial officers. They are never acceptable."
Schumer's threat and Trump's criticism are the same thing. That didn't take long.
"The whirlwind is, I take it, the people's intense reaction if and when the Court ever takes away abortion rights."
I partly disagree with the take, but because the Althouses of America, neutral "observers" though they claim to be, are abortion true believers, they will not resist. Because they do not resist when it counts, the Althouses of America aid and abet the ongoing progressive attack on the polity.
But I would be most pleased to be proven wrong.
The first, second, third, fourth choice, and Pro-Choice, not limited to reproductive rites. There is something more than a little unseemly about a Jew adopting the Pro-Choice religion, and endorsing "life deemed unworthy of life", the wicked solution.
Well, that's over with. (And POTUS threatened a Senator ("pay a severe price"), right?)
readering said...
Well, that's over with. (And POTUS threatened a Senator ("pay a severe price"), right?)
You are quite stupid.
Chuck got caught up in the moment. I mean, when you're celebrating the slaughter of millions of innocent babies, throwing a couple of eeeeeeeeeeevil judges into the mass grave is just a bit of rhetorical excess.
“...Schumer signed the death warrant of the Democratic Party.”
Not remotely.
Why is baby-killing a sacrament to the DemonRATs? Because it lets them dodge th results of their sexual perversions.
readering: "Well, that's over with. (And POTUS threatened a Senator ("pay a severe price"), right?)"
Gee, I wonder if there were any words before or after readerings "selection" that might be relevant......
And strange, no link to pull it up for ourselves to ensure its accuracy....
Its almost like readering is hiding something....
Schumer's words are incitement and he knew that when he spoke them.
Steve Scalise was shot and nearly killed by a Bernie Sanders supporter who was shouting "this is for healthcare" as he shot at Scalise and other Republicans (after asking a bystander if they were Republicans).
Rand Paul was attacked and hospitalized by his "progressive" neighbor.
Don't know if Schumer can be expelled from the Judiciary committee. He has no business participating in the selection process after attempting to intimidate Kavanugh and Gorsuch.
Believe he can also be prosecuted for threatening public officials. He should be. What he did is worse than the process crimes for which Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, and Paul Manafort were prosecuted.
readering said...
Well, that's over with. (And POTUS threatened a Senator ("pay a severe price"), right?)
That senator committed a felony you douchey shit.
Usually you pay a price for threatening a federal judge in order to influence their ruling while they are deliberating on a case.
Seriously you people are just awful.
Did I miss it?
You know, LLR-lefty Chuck's example of where Trump, supposedly just like LLR-lefty Chuck's beloved Schumer, literally threatened violence against named political opponents?
I mean, LLR-lefty Chuck assured us Trump had done just that!
So, I guess Chuckles is simply tidying up the example a bit, polishing it up as it were, to present to us as proof positive of the similarity between what Schumer the hack did and Trump.
I mean, we've already seen Inga and Freder pop in with a whats the big deal attitude and readering chime in with a few words, isolated, with no context and not even in complete sentence form, plucked from the ether as if it means something.
Come on Chuck! Don't leave us hanging! Hit us with that amazing example of Trump calling for violence.
You know, I can hardly wait. The suspense is killing me!
If abortion is healthcare, are there not healthcare procedures that are illegal?
Is there a “right” to have any procedure?
Making biblical references when pontificating about the cultural benefits of abortion reveals the level of Schumer's hubris. Living in a world of relativism (like many lawyers and politicians) and spending your lifetime arguing for ideas that in your heart you know to be false will eventually corrode your soul. Schumer is evil.
Take the blindfolded lady with the scales and depict her instead sleeping with the fishes.
Blogger Morkoth4682 said...
The dead-pan assertion by our hostess that abortion is a **right** is telling...
What is it telling of? It is an objective fact, that the supreme court has an individual right to abortion outside of certain circumstances for a longer time than say the Supreme Court has recognized that protections of the 2nd Amendment are incorporated into the 14th Amendment and thus state's can not infringe on individuals right to bear arms.
After the truly offensive part of Schumer's tirade, the threats to two named Justices, he went on to give a conventional Democrat speech about protecting abortion rights by voting for Democratic candidates. I infer that the attacks on the two Justices were made because the Democrats have decided that their Base is no longer satiated by being told to vote for Democrats. That makes this sound very much like a call to armed rebellion against the political system.
Can you imagine what the reaction would be if Trump said about pro-abortion Justices what Schumer said about Kavanaugh and Gorsuch?
Is it just me or does everyone else cringe when Achilles says **You People**?? Asking for Doc Mike.
Our Hostess muses: "...I don't really know if he got out of control emotionally and spat out ill-chosen words."
I don't know either, but my guessing is over whether he "spat" them out or "spewed" them.
Actually I hope, though I doubt I will ever see this, that the SC admits that a terrible mistake was made in Roe v. Wade. Now, the truth is, that except (perhaps) in whatever jurisdiction brought the case in question, this would change nothing on the ground, in the States where the Left controls.
But it would be immensely amusing and educational for all to observe the pain and outrage this would cause the Left, to thus lose the legitimacy and cachet of their key cause through a rare case the Supreme Court overturning an egregiously ill-considered precedent.
Is it just me or does everyone else cringe when Achilles says **You People**?? Asking for Doc Mike.
Just you, Howard. I'm off in a few minutes to Sammy's Mexican Food, the little Tucson restaurant whose owners were at the Trump rally in Phoenix. Some asshole (Have you ever been to Phoenix, Howard?) took a picture of them on the background behind Trump, spread it around "social media" and tried to drive them out of business. We had dinner there Saturday and it was jammed. Good food. I expect it will be jammed next weekend, too. You know how those deplorables hate Mexicans, right ?
Tiny little place. Order at the register. The line was 25 people when we got there.
All this talk of "paying the price" and not knowing "what hit you" certainly seems to be darkly implying violence. But whatever. Up until a Supreme Court Justice is actually assassinated by some lefty loon, I imagine Chuck Schumer will be just fine both politically and physically.
He’ll be fine with that after if his party picks up one single vote.
Boy, it sure is taking LLR-lefty Chuck an awful long time to come up with his example of Trump calling for violence against specific named political opponents.
And he was so very very adamant earlier today that Trump had done just that and then not been called on it by other conservatives.
You know, it's almost as if LLR-lefty Chuck only made that clearly false assertion as part of a Lie & Smear campaign against Trump.
“I shouldn’t have said it but I can’t believe you guys believed me.” - Shorter Schumer
Gray Connolly@GrayConnolly
the Bulwark is mere seconds from publishing, "The principled conservative case for publicly threatening the lives of sitting judges in front of a baying mob"
3:44 PM - Mar 4, 2020
Schumer and his allies should fight restrictions on abortion by mobilizing to vote anti-abortion legislators out of office. If the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the Constitution as allowing limits or bans on abortion, there will be a huge political fight in every state. Pressuring state legislators to vote your way is legitimate. Pressuring judges -- and naming two of them -- is not. They can't be voted out. In what way does Schumer think they will or should be "hit."
Schumer and his allies should fight restrictions on abortion by mobilizing to vote anti-abortion legislators out of office. If the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the Constitution as allowing limits or bans on abortion, there will be a huge political fight in every state. Pressuring state legislators to vote your way is legitimate. Pressuring judges -- and naming two of them -- is not. They can't be voted out. In what way does Schumer think they will or should be "hit."
Back from Sammie's Mexican food. Still crowded, even on a weeknight. We got #50 again at the register. They are so busy they have reduced the menu to fewer items so they can get the food out faster.
That asshole who tried to Doxx them did them a big favor.
Howard said...
Is it just me or does everyone else cringe when Achilles says **You People**?? Asking for Doc Mike.
If you support them you are responsible for what they do.
A 3 year old girl was raped because you vote for democrats and you support people who implement Sanctuary Cities Howard.
Biden is promising gun confiscation. Anyone who supports him owns that.
You support Schumer. You support openly threatening Supreme Court justices.
You can smirk and warble every time we get upset about your side and the policies they push.
But at the end of the day you are voting for people who want open borders, sanctuary cities, infanticide and gun confiscation.
That makes you a piece of shit.
But at the end of the day you are voting for people who want open borders, sanctuary cities, infanticide and gun confiscation.
Yup. Agree 100%. I suspect everyone at Sammie's tonight would, too. Lots of Trump hats,
Gee..is that a "dog whistle"?
Brazille should thank Schumer for putting her li'l tantrum in the rearview.
The both should go to Art Therapy with Hunter.
In what way does Schumer think they will or should be "hit."
Social media and public pressure on the families...
It wasn't so long ago that hounding wrongthinking folk/families in restaurants etc was going on.
Schumer himself prattled on about how many ways the IC can go after someone.
Lois Lerner nods as well...from her pensioned perch.
Any one of us who were to threaten a judge [or even a juror] to influence a decision would be in jail. It's that simple and Schumer needs to go to jail. Do not pass Go, do not collect $200.
"Breaking: Warren is out"
Breaking: My heart is not.
Trump said biased judges should recuse themselves. Schumer named two justices and threatened violence. Chuck thinks those are the same thing. What a fool.
mikee said...
48 years since Roe, and people like Schumer haven't found the time to pass a Federal law allowing abortion, yet alone a constitutional amendment guaranteeing that right. Makes me suspect the issue is preferred, over the actual rights involved.
3/5/20, 12:21 PM'
Do you mean, a Federal Law superseding state laws to insist that infanticide be legal? There will never be a constitutional amendment guaranteeing the right to kill small babies, mainly because abortion is becoming less and less popular. Assigning the word 'right' to something you want to do does not endow that thing with any special status, not even in debate.
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