January 7, 2020

At the Decor Café...

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Sebastian said...

"“I think that California can serve as a great example for the rest of this country,” Bloomberg told supporters at the opening of his Los Angeles campaign office.

Yes, there are problems, including homelessness, struggling public schools and scarce, costly housing. But California “is something the rest of the country looks up to,” Bloomberg said. “California has been a leader in an awful lot of things.”"

Hey, Althouse, is this "serious" enough for you? Does this count as "boring"? Or, if the substance of policy does matter, might California possibly not be a good model for the country?

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

And here we go.

Iran just shot some missles at an airbase in Iraq. They saw that is revenge for Soleimanis.

If so pretty weak but maybe enough to save face and move on.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Soleimani's death

Birkel said...

J Farmer, women, and children hardest hit.

Chuck said...

Stay tuned for a very special Gulf War 3 Edition of Tucker! ...

Lincolntf said...

U,S. jets all over the Mideast are scrambling in response to the meager Iranian attacks on Iraq. I expect death, in hilarious proportions.

Browndog said...

There will be no debate or discussion as to what the U.S. response will be to this missile attack.

The response is pre-planned, automatic, and underway.

tcrosse said...

"“I think that California can serve as a great example for the rest of this country,” Bloomberg told supporters at the opening of his Los Angeles campaign office.

Exactly. Watch what California does and then do the opposite.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Meantime, Iran state TV claimed Tehran launched "tens" of surface-to-surface missiles at the Al Assad Air Base.

mccullough said...

The Mullahs must really have loved their dead general.

stephen cooper said...

Sometimes I, in the goodness of my heart, try to see every single one of the Althouse commenters the way God sees them - as amazing creatures who would never have existed if God (Jehovah), my good friend, had not put a lot of effort into the sort of thing people who create the sort of people who are Althouse commenters had put into that effort, back in the day (I remember - or I don't remember, that is not something that you need to concern yourself with).

Then sometimes I think, why bother saying those things that I think about in the goodness of my heart, nobody cares, I might as well just watch old clips of Don Rickles talking about the fact that people are stupid, and laugh, and thus waste away my days.

Then I think - hey, lots of people have said really nasty things about other people here ----- not about me, I don't care, but about others ---- verbum sapientis sufficit ---- and I wonder, maybe I should tell those people I have no pride at all, but there is still this ----- too too many people log onto the internet in order to say nasty things in order to indulge their narcissistic rage.

WHAT DO YOU MEAN, the near friendless liberal who considers her or himself a kind person says, WHAT DO YOU MEAN TO TELL ME I AM NOT ONE OF GOD'S CHOSEN BECAUSE YOU THINK OBAMA WAS A FRAUD?

and so on and so forth for the Trump supporters, although I like them more because nothing makes me sadder than knowing somebody might have encouraged someone else to have an abortion, and I like the Trump supporters more because, if you understand statistics, they have ALWAYS BEEN NICER TO THE UNBORN than the poor OBAMA supporters, yes the Trump supporters have always been, on average, kinder to those among us who are most in need of effectual empathy.

Trust me I know what I am talking about, God loves you so much more than you can imagine. Don't worry about whether there is goodness in my heart or not I have seen a few angels face to face and no they did not seem to be impressed with the goodness in my heart but still they were angels and that is not nothing.

Or go ahead and read Infinite Jest and wonder if you wasted your time. God did not create any of us to be atheist or agnostic FOR GOD'S SAKE God loves every single one of you more than me, trust me, and that is very important.

Chuck said...

This is Day 1,082 of the Trump Presidency. Arguably, the first day of genuine crisis for the Trump Administration. The day that many of us wondered about as Trump purged his Secretary of Defense, a series of National Security Advisors, and with the number of senior offices in the Pentagon that are either vacant or occupied by unconfirmed “acting” officers hovering around 20.

Maybe they can get Sebastian Gorka back to lend a hand. Or perhaps Mike Flynn’s parole officer will let him work daylight hours for the White House.

William said...

Iran doesn't have a lot of good moves, but that won't stop them from making a bad move. The Middle East routinely produces people who are far, far dumber than Bush, Obama, or Trump.....If I were one of the Trump progeny, I would feel the kind of unease that Salman Rushdie lives with.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

dead Ayatollahs would be nice.

Inga said...

“Maybe they can get Sebastian Gorka back to lend a hand. Or perhaps Mike Flynn’s parole officer will let him work daylight hours for the White House.”

Drago would probably love seeing Carter Page as a NSA. He seems to have a spot spot in his heart for goofy boy Carter Page.

Jaq said...

I have quit Twitter. Indulging political Twitter is like cultivating a neurosis. Neuroses *sound* interesting, but you wouldn’t want to suffer one. I have also noticed that the less I comment on the internet, the less married I become to my opinions IRL. I just don’t care anymore. Nancy Pelosi, for example, is either senile and deluded, or is a vile liar. The press itself has gone full propaganda for the deep state. Now they are doing Iranian propaganda, suggesting that we should send out boys to die in a charade where Iraq pretends to be on our side, while she hosts and aids enemy generals. This is one more 100 watt kitchen light that Trump has switched on at 2 in the morning, and once again the cockroaches are scurrying.

I used to think that when the Germans were subjected to the constant barrage of anti Jewish propaganda, they probably rolled their eyes, but went along to get along. But I have been on the road for a couple of weeks, and seeing people up at six in the morning and tuning into CNN in hotel lobbies and pawing their cell phones for the latest anti Trump tropes has made me rethink that. Germans may well have waited with bated breath for the latest propaganda blast from the Nazis. Anyway, I am sick of it. Sick of the constant lies, sick of propaganda tools like Chuck.

I like my life better when I am not connected to internet politics.

Dave Begley said...

Trump will address the Nation and make quite clear that he ordered the destruction of Iran’s nuke infrastructure but spared its oil refineries so that a new government can run the country properly. He’ll invite the overthrow of the Mullahs.

Jaq said...

To prove my point, here’s Chuck hoping for the worst.

Hagar said...

Persepolis and other remains of past Persian glories are parts of our cultural heritage; not theirs.
In fact you may remember that not so many years ago there was a big to do about Moslem fundamentalists dynamiting the ruins at Persepolis and other ancient sites in Iran and around the Middle East.

Howard said...

God actually loves Atheists more than you believers, Stephen. No one likes a suckup

Achilles said...

Oh look.

Lefties hoping for the deaths of servicemen so they can attack their political opponents.

Seen this play before. Except when Obama was president. But we know what this is really about.

Thank you Chuck and Inga for showing everyone who you truly are.

Clyde said...

I met a traveller from an antique land
Who said: `Two vast and trunkless legs of stone
Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,
Half sunk, a shattered visage lies, whose frown,
And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,
Tell that its sculptor well those passions read
Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,
The hand that mocked them and the heart that fed.
And on the pedestal these words appear --
"My name is Ozymandias, king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty, and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away.

Percy Bysshe Shelley

Jaq said...

I think the Democrats will run Klobuchar, because her name sounds the most like that of a Mullah.

Inga said...

The Iranians are claiming to have killed 30 US troops today. Let’s hope and pray that this is a lie.

stephen cooper said...

Howard - thanks you got it.

Howard, the last time I said something to someone that was anything like what you said - as if you had any idea how silly it is to call me someone who praises others in a way that is not full of truth - was 1964. Think about it, Howard.

I hope I am not wrong, but you, my young atheist friend, appear to be the person who has problems with narcissistic rage who was the person I wanted to connect with tonight in order to tell you that GOD LOVES YOU and of course God exists.

But God loves you anyway.

I have said hundreds of times God loves everyone more than me.

Have you not been paying attention?

This is my world in a way that I cannot explain.

Jaq said...

"Let’s hope and pray that this is a lie.”

Sure Inga, you were quick enough to repeat it though.

Chuck said...

The funny thing is, if Trump had a serious, considered goal of forcible regime change in Iran; having John Bolton as his NSA could have been good for the execution of such a strategy. But Trump didn’t even have the self-discipline to keep his dick out of Ukraine. See, e.g.; Daniels, Stormy.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

So far Iran killed 56 people, scores more injured--

... at Soliemani's funeral

Jaq said...

Pentagon states that the Iranian missile attack resulted in casualties among Iraqis only

stephen cooper said...

And Howard, I am not a believer, in the way you think.

God is my friend, that is not something that has anything to do with belief, that is simply a statement of fact.

That is why - because he is my friend - that is why I know that God loves you, and cares about you, whom he created, much more than God loves you.

You are a smart guy and maybe you know the answer to this ---- do you know what I need to know, living in this world and knowing that God created you all, with love in that divine heart, and here I am - not someone like you, but someone who has maybe seen much more evil than you can imagine, much more evil than you could in a million years live with ---- am I really a creature of God who does not know why I am in this world, having been created to live in a world without a single sign that God created me with love in his heart???? Or am I am just someone on the watchtower who cares so much more about human beings than you can imagine?

Tell me again about those long sad roads, which you walked with so many beloved friends, that led you yo atheism.

AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT GOD WATCHED OVER YOU EVERY MOMENT OF YOUR LIFE.

So of course, my friend, God does not love me, the believer, because God knows that I care about every one I have ever met who never had a friend in this world: you have no idea how difficult it has been.

Well, if it makes you feel better, God does not know either. You were right. God does not like me all that much.

Too bad. That is my problem, and I know how to deal with it.

stephen cooper said...

Tell me again about those long sad roads, which you walked along with so many beloved friends, that led you to atheism. I know that God loves you, whom he created, much more than God loves me.

OR DON'T ANSWER I HAVE WRITTEN MILLIONS OF WORDS ON THE INTERWEBS, explaining to people who consider me crazy, simply to say that GOD LOVES YOU and God has never once given me a sign that God even wants to spend a few moments of friendship with me.

Don't mess , my friend, with me. Don't fall into the temptation to mock me. God may not like me all that much but He respects me, and remembers those times when we were pals.

Inga said...

“So far Iran killed 56 people, scores more injured--

... at Soliemani's funeral”

And you were the idiot who claimed a couple of days ago in a Cafe thread that because of US superior firepower no Iranian missiles would be launched into Iraq targeting US troops.

William said...

In other, better news, CNN has agreed to settle with the Sandman kid for an undisclosed amount. Good. Nathan Phillips, the Native American activist, ignored the Black Hebrews who were yelling all kinds of offensive crap and chose to pound his drum in the kid's face. The media with a choice of the three parties--Covington kids in MAGA hats, Black Hebrews yelling offensive slurs, and a Native American activist with a suspect record--chose to demonize the kid in the MAGA hat....I'm glad for the settlement, but I'd like to see some of the media publicly apologize and accept responsibility for their bias. The Black Hebrews, who they totally ignored in their rush to judgement, were involved in that Jersey City shooting.

Inga said...

“AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT GOD WATCHED OVER YOU EVERY MOMENT OF YOUR LIFE.”

Put in a good word for our troops’ safety.

mccullough said...

Seems like Iran has declared war on Iraq. 80s night!

stephen cooper said...

Pleasanton 1974, in case you care, and my beloved Northern Virginia, 2007-2010.

Of course you have no idea what I am talking about.
Nevertheless .... this is your world, and it does not matter that you have no idea what I am talking about.
It is no small thing to be a friend to a creature who never had a friend in this world.

stephen cooper said...

INGA, I pray for them every day.

And if things go wrong, I will be one of the first to seek revenge on the evildoers who did evil to the good-hearted troops who fought for my beloved country.

Jaq said...

This is real time game theory. The Art of the Deal guy vs the inventors of chess. Iran is counting on restraint from the US, banking that it knows the limits to which it can push a power that can probably not conquer Iran, but can send it packing for the stone age pretty easily. Once Iran no longer has the threat of these missile attacks, it is a lesser power. They have threatened to flatten Haifa and Dubai if Trump retaliates, but I can’t see Trump not taking out the bases from which this missiles were launched.

I am happy to wait and find out, and certainly will not be licking my chops over casualties of any kind.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

In good news, the properly elected Venezuelan parliament forced their way past Chavez' thugs to swear-in the democratic leader of Venezuela.

Inga said...

“And if things go wrong, I will be one of the first to seek revenge on the evildoers who did evil to the good-hearted troops who fought for my beloved country.”

Vengeance is mine sayeth the Lord.

And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. (Isaiah 2:4).

Dave Begley said...

Reports that POTUS to address the Nation tonight. Iran nuke infrastructure to be destroyed.

Dave Begley said...

The mullahs will be out in 60 days.

stephen cooper said...

Inga - well said.

It is always good to quote the word of the Lord!

And you are welcome, from my humble heart, for the goodness in my heart that reminded you of who is in charge.

I never quote the Bible when arguing with people, but I will say this ----- God hates evildoers.

Feel free to think you are able to judge who is an evildoer and who is not.

A thousand years from now my millions of descendants will rejoice to know that you agreed with me, or they will rejoice to know you thought I was worth speaking with.

chickelit said...

BleachBit-and-Hammers said...dead Ayatollahs would be nice.

Who doesn't love the smell of charred ashatollah in the morning?

chickelit said...

I remember a favorite uncle of mine sported an "Ayatollah Assaholla" t-shirt back in the day.

Oh Yea said...

Damage assessment will be critical. Targeting accuracy on these missiles can be very poor. Hopefully a lot of flash and boom with few casualties. This could allow the Iranians to save some face without signify escalation.

chickelit said...

'I think that California can serve as a great example for the rest of this country,' Bloomberg told supporters at the opening of his Los Angeles campaign office.

I don't see him having much support out here at all.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Aunty Trump said...

The press itself has gone full propaganda for the deep state. Now they are doing Iranian propaganda...

Our press is a complete pile of shit.

Browndog said...

Trump will address the nation tonight if there are major retaliatory strikes inside Iran.

If there are no causalities, I suspect Trump will call off the bombers that are already deployed, and will not address the nation tonight.

Browndog said...

And, there it is-

Trump will not be addressing the nation tonight.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...


Iranian state run thugs are forcing people out into the streets for massive crowds to form. Fake protests. D-hack press love it.

madAsHell said...

My wife has been watching the talking heads on TV. She wants me to purchase a generator, and wants to know where we will get water when Iran nukes us!

If we get nuked, then the cell phone towers are smoked. You won't need to charge your cell phone battery.

Fuck!! We live on the side of a hill in Seattle. Managing ground water is a perpetual problem, and it's a huge filtration system. Drink it!!

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...


“Oh look.

Lefties hoping for the deaths of servicemen so they can attack their political opponents.”

I remember the unrestrained glee of the Democrats when the 1000th American soldier died in Iraq. They absolutely couldn’t contain themselves.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

we checked our cafe posts for the 4th, 5th, and 6th, and couldnt find any where we are making that claim.
We did find a link to an opinion piece (that we didnt write) that states the opposite though

"In late September, US Central Command temporarily moved command and control of the Doha base to a remote facility in Tampa, Florida, because the base is a “sitting duck” for Iranian missiles".

Oso Negro said...

I found myself wondering what was going on in this blog 5 years ago. Coincidentally, I popped onto a post about air travel that I, myself, was tagged in. I read a few of the posts. My first blush was that the comments were not as mean as some of them have been lately, though ST is remarkably consistent. A lot of names of commenters that have fallen away. A good number of the regulars to this day. I think in sum, this blog and its attendant comments will be interesting reading for a future historian, if there are any left to be interested in what we have been chatting about all these years.

stephen cooper said...

Oso Negro - trust me, we will be remembered.

Seeing Red said...

...Stolen identities were used to check defendant Robert Hunter Biden into an Arizona facility and providing false statements to the Prescott Police Department,” the document states. “These stolen identities include his deceased brother Joseph R. Beau Biden III, and Joseph McGee.”

An attorney for Biden, whose full name is Robert Hunter Biden, did not immediately respond to FOX Business’ request for comment. His brother, who went by Beau Biden, died in 2015....

Via Lucianne

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

Beau Biden, died in 2015

"Blow" Biden, lied in 2019

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Aunty Trump said...

The press itself has gone full propaganda for the deep state. Now they are doing Iranian propaganda...

Our press is a complete pile of shit.


Dare we say "enemies of the people?"

Inga said...

“Dare we say "enemies of the people?"

You people make your fellow Americans your enemies, what is wrong with you?

Gospace said...

Actually, there's a lot of us who'd love seeing Carter Page with an official position i the administration. Along with. And perhaps bring back Admiral Rogers if he's willing to come and clean house. Put him in charge of the FBI.

Seeing Red said...

Bwaaaaa look in the mirror.


What is wrong with you?

Seeing Red said...

You people make your fellow Americans your enemies, what is wrong with you?

Are you arguing the MSM isn’t?

State why.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

You people make your fellow Americans your enemies, what is wrong with you?

Just returning the favor.

Chuck said...

George Conway
@gtconway3d
And that he said ten times Obama would start a war with Iran to get re-elected tells you that that was something he thought a president would do.

And now that Trump’s president, it is.

Pure projection—falsely accusing someone of possibly doing something he would do.


https://mobile.twitter.com/gtconway3d/status/1214699278989484032

Marc in Eugene said...

Now that the Sandmanns have received some financial compensation from CNN for their troubles, I hope that NBC and WaPo refuse to settle, go to trial, and lose every penny of the $525 million that's being demanded. Every single penny of it.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The hack press are enemies of the truth and therefore enemies of the people.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Speaking of cultural sites. I took my daughter to see the recently renovated MOMA the other day. The main change is that they now display a large selection of 'modern' (post 1940s) art as opposed to the not so modern art that they used to focus on. This is the art produced during the era of American ascendancy in the art world. I think it's fair to say that no one will be looking back on this time as a high point in western culture, at least for the visual arts. I could be wrong, but I genuinely struggled to see the value in most of what was on display.

stevew said...

Pelosi lays the blame for the Iranian missle attacks on Trump's needless provocation. In other news she asks why that rape victim decided to wear such a sexually provocative outfit.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

if the media didnt like that kid's smile back then...

... they should see it now!

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"You people make your fellow Americans your enemies, what is wrong with you?"

"Basket of deplorables".

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Leftwing Maddow worshippers have no concept that WE the People are allowed to criticize an out-of control liar press.


Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The leftwing press can ruin a teen's life - because Trump hate.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Pelosi lays the blame for the Iranian missle attacks on Trump

Let's see. Iran cheats on the nuclear deal, attacks and hijacks ships in the Gulf, attacks Saudi refineries with missiles, attacks US based with missles and kills an American.

All with the retaliation from the US

The US strikes the missles used against us and Iran attacks our embassy and tried to to kill all personal inside.

We take out one measly General and Pelosi blames Trump.

Michael K said...

I think it's fair to say that no one will be looking back on this time as a high point in western culture, at least for the visual arts. I could be wrong, but I genuinely struggled to see the value in most of what was on display.

I think it is fair to say that you and I might have something in common .

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

All with the *no* retaliation from the US

Dammit

narciso said...


Let then be greedo


https://mobile.twitter.com/RichHiggins_DC/status/1214733603785125888

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Personal = personnel

Aiyiyi

narciso said...


Back on your heads


https://mobile.twitter.com/ezralevant/status/1214734488648876032

Anonymous said...

Looks like a smelly bar or moldy antique store.

Jaq said...

I hope it’s what it looks like, which is that it’s all over but the tweeting. Seulimon is dead and Iran set of some bottle rockets. We ought to be out of Iraq though.

Char Char Binks, Esq. said...

I’m glad Sandmann won, I hope he garnered a lot of money, and I hope he keeps garnering. I hope Zimmerman wins his lawsuits, and I hope Benjamin Crump, Bernie De la Rionda, Angela Corey, John Guy, Sybrina Fulton, and Tracy Martin garner what they deserve.

J. Farmer said...

@Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan:

I think it's fair to say that no one will be looking back on this time as a high point in western culture, at least for the visual arts. I could be wrong, but I genuinely struggled to see the value in most of what was on display.

I think a lot of the aesthetic value that would've gone into visual arts in most of the 20th century was instead diverted into motion pictures.

narciso said...

When you drift from representation, youre left with emotion, the unchained id that cant be good.

What was the point of jackson pollock lets say?

wildswan said...

Schrodinger's Impeachment followed by Schrodinger's Retaliation. But it will be Trump's election

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

"Midnight At The Oasis " --Maria Muldaur - 1974

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlrKETxwRvM

"Let's slip off to a sand dune, real soon,
...and kick up a little dust"

320Busdriver said...

Mohamed Zarif on Twitter:

Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense under Article 51 of UN Charter targeting base from which cowardly armed attack against our citizens & senior officials were launched.

We do not seek escalation or war, but will defend ourselves against any aggression.

Chuck said...

Let's drop the big one now.

Dedicated to all of my fellow Americans who are members of Cult 45.

n.n said...

I’m glad Sandmann won, I hope he garnered a lot of money, and I hope he keeps garnering. I hope Zimmerman wins his lawsuits...

It's well past time that diversitists pay, through the nose, for their progressive ideology. Rabid diversity, liberal license, are intolerable in civilized society.

Birkel said...

The man with a small penis decides to be a racist fopdoodle.
Imagine my surprise.

narciso said...


Staying thematic

https://youtu.be/R5RgEtcScyU

Seeing Red said...

Well, at this point in time, it seems they shot missiles and hit a few planes.

Bill, Republic of Texas said...

Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense under Article 51

Has Iran really concluded operations? That is all? If so this will be a huge win for Trump.

n.n said...

Mohamed Zarif on Twitter:

Iran took & concluded proportionate measures


It's past time for the Iranian regime to offer full disclosure, abort terrorism by proxy, and reconcile with her neighbors, People, and Posterity, too, so that she may remain viable.

Original Mike said...

"Iran took & concluded proportionate measures in self-defense ...[emphasis added]

Hmmmmm. Could it be that someone knew what he was doing?

FullMoon said...
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Drago said...

Bill: "Has Iran really concluded operations? That is all? If so this will be a huge win for Trump."

It appears the IRGC-radicals got their way with a "retaliatory" strike, but the non-IRGC-still-radical-but-not-quite-as-insane side got their way by severely limiting the scope of the "retaliatory" strike.

The "concluded" portion of the message was clearly a plea to Trump to let this whole thing drop after this strike so the mullahs could save face.

Will be interesting what Trump comes up with next.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Chuck, you entered Inga territory a long time ago.

I pay no more attention to your stupid links than I do to hers.

Just be man enough to admit you're now a leftist.

Drago said...

My sincere condolences to LLR-lefty Chuck.

It's been a tough week with the loss of one his islamic supremacist heroes a few days ago and the non-loss of American lives and likely Trump military voters tonight.

I'm so sorry this all happened to you.

alanc709 said...

So Chuck, since Trump is about to start WW3, I guess we don't need to worry about global warming anymore, right?

Marc in Eugene said...

I think it's fair to say that no one will be looking back on this time as a high point in western culture, at least for the visual arts.

While I often disagree with BCARM's political commentary this seems to me to be right, although am not entirely certain what I do think of as Western culture's 'high points' in the post-war era. Medical advances. Developments in agriculture and technology. Star Trek, episode 17? Comic books? Hmm. I see a lot of wasteland, to be honest.

walter said...

Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump
27m27 minutes ago

All is well! Missiles launched from Iran at two military bases located in Iraq. Assessment of casualties & damages taking place now. So far, so good! We have the most powerful and well equipped military anywhere in the world, by far! I will be making a statement tomorrow morning.

Drago said...

Marc: "While I often disagree with BCARM's political commentary this seems to me to be right, although am not entirely certain what I do think of as Western culture's 'high points' in the post-war era. Medical advances."

ARM is often interesting and informative and fun to have around when not trying to twist history/facts to satisfy today's political needs.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

. Farmer said...
I think a lot of the aesthetic value that would've gone into visual arts in most of the 20th century was instead diverted into motion pictures.


Not sure why it would be an either/or but I don't disagree either. I gave my daughter a challenge in which we each had to pick one thing that we thought was OK on the two main floors devoted to recent art. Both my picks were videos of dancers/performance artists. She struggled to find anything other than the most conventional looking painting on each floor. We are very different ages, each with an interest in the visual arts. That we we both struggled says something, but the place was packed, almost uncomfortably so. Not sure what other people are getting out of it.

It is a weird thing that an art form that has been so central to western culture has become so distanced from what could be reasonably called mainstream tastes.

Drago said...

In other bad news for LLR-lefty Chuck, all of his rabid spittle-flecked sham-peachment democrat demands have been shot down today and tonight.

Now, democrat senators, realizing that everything LLR-lefty Chuck and Pelosi and Schiff-ty have been demanding has just been s***-canned, are calling for Pelosi to send over the sham-peachment hoax articles which will be dealt with in cursory fashion and kicked to the curb.

Sorry LLR-lefty Chuck! Trump has beaten you again!

I'll bet YOU are tired of all that Trump winning, aren't you tiger?

narciso said...

Ot, the bbc has not only managed to screw up dr. Who, but even dracula.

narciso said...

Largely succoming to pc dictates and disrespect for the source material.

Jaq said...

Hannity is a moron, BTW.

Drago said...

alanc709: "So Chuck, since Trump is about to start WW3, I guess we don't need to worry about global warming anymore, right?"

On the contrary, LLR-lefty Chuck's dreams of Americans dying by the hundreds tonight did not occur because Trump just got the "magnificent" obama's pals in Tehran to blink.

And to think, it was obama cash that paid for the missiles that Tehran launched at the Iraqi bases.

LLR-lefty Chuck must be so proud of that.

Jaq said...

"t is a weird thing that an art form that has been so central to western culture has become so distanced from what could be reasonably called mainstream tastes.”

It’s cargo cult thinking. They are jealous of physics and math, which have legitimately advanced to the point where laymen are completely at a loss to follow what is going on in any serious way. They think that if they create something that people think stinks, they have therefore advanced to a higher plane.

alanc709 said...

Yeah, Dr. Who is so woke now it's ridiculous. The stories are too boring and the companions look like the diversity hires at Starbucks.

narciso said...

They could have dacre stokers sort of prequel with echoes of brams youth, but they had to go all modern and garish.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"It is a weird thing that an art form that has been so central to western culture has become so distanced from what could be reasonably called mainstream tastes."

It started to distance itself when photography was invented. I guess artists felt that once images of the world and people could be captured by photographs, they had to veer to the subjective and abstract to stay relevant. And once that ball started rolling...

Jaq said...

Plus the art market is a giant game of liar’s poker.

Drago said...

Aunty Trump: "Hannity is a moron, BTW."

He's very irritating. He interrupts far too often and he keeps his interesting guests from being able to complete their points.

He's unwatchable to me so I record his show and fast forward to the guests I want to see, if any, depending on the subject being covered. And I probably agree with him about 90% of the time.

J. Farmer said...

@Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan:

It is a weird thing that an art form that has been so central to western culture has become so distanced from what could be reasonably called mainstream tastes.

I think it probably has something to do with the change in medium to photography/motion pictures. We are absolutely swamped in visual stimuli these days.

Inga said...

“Hannity is a moron, BTW.”

No, really? Trump’s close advisor?

narciso said...

A character like the doctor is supposed to be eternal or close to it, they have seen every thing at every time, and not managed to be jaded, i think all the technology is a crutch.

Known Unknown said...

"Not sure why it would be an either/or but I don't disagree either."

Yeah, I could pick out frames from movies that are far more interesting/beautiful/aesthetically pleasing than anything put on canvas recently.

I don't know what's in the collection, but I always found Warhol's 'commoditization' of art to be interesting.

Jaq said...

Credit where it is due:

Joe Biden@JoeBiden
I’m going to hold off on commenting on the news tonight until we know more, but there is one thing I will say: Jill and I are keeping our troops and Americans overseas in our prayers. We hope you’ll keep them in yours.


If Hannity were Trump’s closest advisor, there would be nuclear missiles in flight right now.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Drago said "He's very irritating. He interrupts far too often and he keeps his interesting guests from being able to complete their points."

I have the same reaction to Judge Jeanine. It's not what she says that annoys me, it's that voice. Makes my ears bleed.

Known Unknown said...

I wholeheartedly skip Hannity. He sucks.

narciso said...

Your alternative is crazy larry mcdonnell or anderson vanderbilt.

n.n said...

Ok. It's time to take off the gloves and put on the pussy... front hole hats. Send in the abortionists, the planners, the Twilighters, too. Show the Iranian terrorists the pinnacle of Western progressive culture (PC). Wage social justice, cannibalize their profitable parts, and collect the Mullahs. Send notice in no selective, opportunistic terms, that they are no longer viable. Also, as we are a diversitist society, exclude no People... Person nor Posterity, but hunt, judge, and cancel them with prejudice as an inclusive color bloc.

J. Farmer said...

I cannot stomach hardly any cable news programming, even when I am inclined to agree with a presenter. I watch clips from Tucker's show but would never set through a full hour of programming. The only television news I watch is my local news channel.

Sprezzatura said...

“The "concluded" portion of the message was clearly a plea to Trump to let this whole thing drop after this strike so the mullahs could save face.”

So they save face by increasing their influence with Iraq while further limiting ours, and they’re back to making nukes (no more BHO era when they cement=filled nuke reactor and shuttered centrifuges and shipped out nuke material).

Yikes.

narciso said...

As a general rule, news is cookie cutter, often wrong in the particulars, and uninfirmative other than that...

Drago said...

Inga: "No, really? Trump’s close advisor?"

No no no.

Trump takes all his orders from Putin, right? I mean, that's what you've been saying for 3+ years now....even though its clear that Trump is Putin's worst nightmare.

I'll bet those 200-300 Russian mercs in Syria that Trump gave the go ahead to whack would feel somewhat differently about that than Inga.....if they were able to feel anything at all right now....

narciso said...

That was a show, to hide where the real facilities are.

J. Farmer said...

Sean Hannity is a GOP Inc weather vane. The day after Romney lost, Hannity "evolved" and was backing the "pathway to citizenship" (ie amnesty) for illegals.

Inga said...

I fervently hope this is the end of the aggressions and no more blood is shed. Trump needs to keep his big mouth shut and not say anything to escalate this further. I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get.

walter said...

Stephanie Grisham
@PressSec
·
1h
This is not true - was never true - & no one even attempted to confirm with the press office before tweeting. In a race to be first to break news, the public once again falls victim to irresponsible “reporting” by @CNN
@jeffzeleny
@kaitlancollins
Quote Tweet
Kaitlan Collins
@kaitlancollins
· 2h
Aides are making urgent preparations at this hour for Trump to address the nation, per @jeffzeleny. The specific timing TBD & could be delayed given we are still learning info but two officials say a speech is being prepared and plans are being made for Oval address.

Drago said...

J. Farmer: "I cannot stomach hardly any cable news programming, even when I am inclined to agree with a presenter. I watch clips from Tucker's show but would never set through a full hour of programming."

Exactly. As with the football games, just record them and then you can blow thru to the 10 to 15 minutes of interesting content in each of these shows.

Hour over hour on any cable channel its just the same stuff over and over. Ugh.

And of course the worst channels are LLR-lefty Chuck's favorites: MSNBC and CNN.

narciso said...

Theres a reason why animal channel and the cartoon network is beating cnn.

Jaq said...

If this works out the way it looks that it has... "so far” we can thank out stars that Bolton didn’t have his trigger happy little fingers anywhere near the levers of military power.

Drago said...

Admiral Inga: "I fervently hope this is the end of the aggressions and no more blood is shed. Trump needs to keep his big mouth shut and not say anything to escalate this further. I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get."

It's always great fun when Inga provides the contradiction to her point in her own posts!

>>>"I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get."

>>>"Trump needs to keep his big mouth shut and not say anything to escalate this further."

LOLOLOLOL

Iran knows how serious this could get because Trump let them know. Directly.

And that's why the Iranians just blinked. Bigly.

And that's gotta be just killing Admiral Inga.

Original Mike said...

"Hannity is a moron, BTW."

His name at our house is 'Doofus'.

Inga said...

“It's always great fun when Inga provides the contradiction to her point in her own posts!

>>>"I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get."

>>>"Trump needs to keep his big mouth shut and not say anything to escalate this further."”

There is no contradiction in my comment. Perhaps you need to read more carefully and not be so manic in your responses.

narciso said...

He states the obvious, sonething most nets cant get the grasp on

Original Mike said...

"I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get."

Duh.

Drago said...

Admiral Inga: "There is no contradiction in my comment."

LOL

How is it that those Iranian leaders suddenly, after decades, now realize how serious things could get?

One reason and one reason only: Trump.

Trump will keep talking as he should because he isn't going to let your islamic supremacist pals push the US around like they gleefully did for 8 years under your messiah obama.

Inga said...

I also think most Americans know how serious things can get, unless your name is Trump. Stop being so arrogant in thinking that no Americans will lose their lives. No American lives should be lost because Trump is a fucking moron.

stephen cooper said...

Inga God loves you.

I imagine a world in which you had given good advice to the losers of this world - Carter, Reagan, Bush, poor little Clinton who was so desperate for a blow job here or there, poor Bush Junior, and choom Obama - and Inga, well, except for your desperate and sad ignorance on the pro-life issue, I think you would have been a great help to poor Carter, Reagan, poor Bush, poor little Clinton who was so desperate for a sad little blow job from a subordinate at work, and poor Bush Junior who dodged the draft, and the poor puppet Obama, and I am always glad to hear what you have to say.

Seriously,though, if you do not know that volitional abortion is always and everywhere evil, well then you are in a place where you really need to contemplate what is good in this world .... in a way you have not done .... and what is good is this ...
God loves us all, and God protects the innocent.

Trust me if you have the choice to tell God you were not on the side of the innocent (A BAD CHOICE) or if you have the choice to tell God you were on the side of the innocent (THE GOOD CHOICE) ---- you will always be right if you pray for the innocent. THE GOOD CHOICE IS TO PRAY FOR THE INNOCENT.

Well of course that means you can't vote for old Pelosi, you can't consider that poor man Bergoglio to be anything but an evil-doer, and you sort of have to withhold the respect you might otherwise have had for poor Harold Stern, but you can do it, God loves you, Inga, trust me, I remember your grandparents and how happy they were this time of year three generations ago.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Inga said...
I also think most Americans know how serious things can get, unless your name is Trump. Stop being so arrogant in thinking that no Americans will lose their lives. No American lives should be lost because Trump is a fucking moron.


1/7/20, 9:56 PM

It's so cute to see you pretend to care about American lives.

You'd welcome a slaughter if it would mean Trump's defeat in November.

Original Mike said...

600+ Americans have already lost their lives. This was a bid to stop that. Will it work? I don't know (and neither do you), but the status quo was not acceptable.

Drago said...

Inga: "I also think most Americans know how serious things can get, unless your name is Trump."

Trump just made the Iranians blink, for the first time in 40 years, dummy.

Inga: "Stop being so arrogant in thinking that no Americans will lose their lives. No American lives should be lost because Trump is a fucking moron."

Says the pro-open borders/MS13 crew. What's the body count now in the US based on your moronic open borders preference?

Americans lost their lives during obama's administration due to obama's appeasement policies. Number of Inga post lamenting deaths due to obama's appeasement: ZERO

iowan2 said...

No American lives should be lost because Trump is a fucking moron.

Dead Americans under the empty suit, Obama's watch are expendable.

narciso said...

Something i noticed they are doing a new perry mason, with matthew rhys of the americans for hbo fwiw and another installment of penny dreadful in 40s la.

Jaq said...

I guess that Trump is like Forest Gump, a certifiable idiot who inexplicably keeps winning.

Achilles said...

Inga said...
“Dare we say "enemies of the people?"

You people make your fellow Americans your enemies, what is wrong with you?


1. Free speech on college campuses.
2. Gun Rights.
3. Chasing people out of restaurants.
4. Attacking and lying about teenagers wearing hats.
5. Spying on political opponents.
6. Laundering US foreign aid into corrupt politician pockets.
7. Open borders.
8. Free health care for illegals.
9. Infanticide.
10. Globalist trade deals sending manufacturing to other countries.
11. Obvious hoax rape charges against political opponents.

You are on one side of these arguments.

We are on the other.

Yes we are enemies.

n.n said...

How batshit crazy can we be? A witch hunt, a warlock judgment, a sodomy session, then abort, cannibalize, and collect the Mullahs. Should we Gaddafy them and their little goats, too? Perhaps throw in some Americans as a gesture to diversity and social justice and progress?

Drago said...

iowan2: "Dead Americans under the empty suit, Obama's watch are expendable."

Obama would just go to fundraisers and do his March Madness Brackets.

Achilles said...

Inga said...
“It's always great fun when Inga provides the contradiction to her point in her own posts!

>>>"I think Iran sounds like they know how serious this could get."

>>>"Trump needs to keep his big mouth shut and not say anything to escalate this further."”

There is no contradiction in my comment. Perhaps you need to read more carefully and not be so manic in your responses.

No Red Lines!

History started on Jan 21 2017.

Please keep up the good work.

Jimmy said...

A Boeing 737 Ukrainian passenger plane carrying 180 people has crashed near Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airport in Iran. Iran reports technical problems caused the plane to crash shortly after takeoff.

n.n said...

I guess that Trump is like Forest Gump, a certifiable idiot who inexplicably keeps winning.

He's a five dimensional being, who can predict climate change in a location, a region, and the world. I'm cautiously optimistic that he won't forget us three... four dimensional beings and our little dogs, too.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

All the praying from the left.

5 minutes ago we were being lectured by the left that "thoughts and prayers" are insulting, and to save and stuff them.

Drago said...

Jim: "A Boeing 737 Ukrainian passenger plane carrying 180 people has crashed near Tehran Imam Khomeini International Airport in Iran."

This will be added to the democrats/LLR-lefties Articles of Galactic Sham-peachment.

Kathryn51 said...

narciso said...
Something i noticed they are doing a new perry mason, with matthew rhys of the americans for hbo fwiw and another installment of penny dreadful in 40s la.

Big Perry Mason fan here - but if they don't base the show in 40's/50's "Los Angeles" (originals were in Ventura where Erle Stanley Gardner practiced law), then it will be nothing more than a famous "name" - not enough for me to watch.

At one time, Robert Downey was supposed to do a Perry Mason movie. Wonder what happened??

Marc in Eugene said...

A character like the doctor is supposed to be eternal or close to it, they have seen every thing at every time, and not managed to be jaded, i think all the technology is a crutch.

This is partly why some Dr Who connoisseurs prefer the pre-Eccleston Doctors, I think.

Narr said...

Hannity is awful, and Tucker is OK in small doses. I watch some local news and some BBC, in addition to The Five and Gutfeld in their slots--but rarely an hour at a time and often without looking their way for days.

Weekends belong to CSpan (thank you Brian Lamb, though you did some of the goofiest interviews I've ever seen, you're one of the great producers).

Some 19th C modernist said that "Painting no longer represents, it presents." But yeah, the wind has gone out.

Narr
And I'm off to my garret

narciso said...

It looks period specific, they were shooti g some weeks ago on bank street.

Gahrie said...

This is partly why some Dr Who connoisseurs prefer the pre-Eccleston Doctors, I think.

While I enjoyed some of the other Doctors, as far as I am concerned the definitive Doctor is Tom Baker.

narciso said...

Some modern noir fails because its too dark, project blue book is set in 1952 a retro x files of sorts.

Jaq said...

I almost never watch Fox, or any cable news, but I turned on the TV tonight for obvious reasons. He gets stuff wrong. Sometimes I start my car and he comes on the radio, because I might have been listening to Rush earlier in the day, and the other day he was commenting on a joke meme about a grinning Trump suggesting over the phone that Soleimon “wait at the airport” for "pallets of cash.” as if it were really Trump saying it.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

The media should be bulldozed and re-built.
Re-built with honesty, integrity and non-biased professionalism and actual Curiosity about the truth and real investigation.
Now we get lazy rush to narrative from D-hacks.

Fox news is the only thing worth watching and yes - in small doses.

Jaq said...

I almost never watch Fox, or any cable news, but I turned on the TV tonight for obvious reasons. He gets stuff wrong. Sometimes I start my car and he comes on the radio, because I might have been listening to Rush earlier in the day, and the other day he was commenting on a joke meme about a grinning Trump suggesting over the phone that Soleimon “wait at the airport” for "pallets of cash.” as if it were really Trump saying it.

narciso said...

I noticed this gangster squad, supposedly based on a true story.

Marc in Eugene said...

From the Guardian:

Early indications suggested the crash did not appear to have links to Wednesday morning’s missile strikes on bases in Iraq hosting US and coalition troops.

Prayers for the poor passengers of course. I hope no Iranian stupidity had anything to do with this.

Chuck said...

alanc709 said...
So Chuck, since Trump is about to start WW3, I guess we don't need to worry about global warming anymore, right?


This is such a dumb comment, that it barely merits any attention.

The only reason to say anything at all is because every day this blog's comments pages get filled up with fantasms from Trumpists, attributing all sorts of left-wing ideologies to me.

I've stated very plainly that I am a lifelong Republican. I ardently supported the nominations of Justices Gorsuch and Kavanaugh, on these pages. I've written about my undying admiration for the late Justice Scalia, on these pages. I've fought with Althouse about the string of gay rights cases (Lawrence, Windsor and Obergefell, where I took the conservative justices' side. I've been an election day volunteer for the Republican National Lawyers Association. I've never written a single word of support for a single Democratic candidate for office on these pages. I'm a gun owner and a general supporter of gun rights under U.S. law. I have certainly never written anything supportive of any climate change fearmongering.

And you Trumpkin pricks cannot find a single comment from me that contradicts any of that.

Your one gripe with me is Trump, and my open hatred of Trump.

You are fucking desperate, to make me out to being a left-winger, because you cannot think of any other way to delegitimize me, in my criticism of Trump.

Iman said...

Lara Logan had some enlightening things to say about the late not so great Soliemani... his past malevolent and murderous deeds. She said she doesn’t understand what is wrong with American “journalists” and the media, that they can’t be this stupid (I’m paraphrasing).

The Left has gone full batshit insane.

Iman said...

“ I've been an election day volunteer for the Republican National Lawyers Association.”

That would explain the undercount wherever you’ve “assisted”...

stephen cooper said...

Chuck ---- lighten up.

God loves you.

Your life is what it is is and hatred for Trump is a minuscule part of it.


Wake up! You are legitimately a son or daughter of God!

narciso said...

They arent wired right, they have no sense of perspective, they hew to the daily narrative sans any intervening context.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

2 earthquakes hit southwestern Iran
The quakes struck just a few miles from a city near the Persian Gulf.

Does Trump have an earthquake machine like Bush's hurricane machine?

those mullahs and ProgLibDems just cant catch a break

narciso said...

Bushehr near where they perched a reactor, the first one.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

and did they accidentally start a war with Ukraine ?

Drago said...

Banned Commenter LLR-lefty Chuck: "Your one gripe with me is Trump, and my open hatred of Trump."

And your racist attack on Ben Carson...

And your attacks on women and children...

And your constant linking to far far far far left publications and groups...

And your constant narrative boosting of every single democrat talking point each and every day without exception. Particularly Lawfare and MSNBC and CNN...

And your passionate and immediate defense of every obama policy and action...

And your passionate and immediate defense of every single hack dem and whatever it is they are lying about each and every day...

And your immediate and angry attacking of every republican or conservative who dares to fight back against your beloved dems...

And your constant referencing of "republicans" who have long ago come out in full support of democrats and democrat policies across the board...

And on and on and on it goes....

No one is fooled anymore LLR-lefty Chuck. Not even your lefty allies who used to pretend you were some "principled" conservative who just happened to agree with them. They don't do that anymore, do they?

Wanna know why? Because they know its all a lie as well.

Your dishonesty and bad faith posting was a big part of why you were appropriately banned.

narciso said...



Probably just lousy avionics

https://mobile.twitter.com/ArthurSchwartz/status/1214669157901451264

Marc in Eugene said...

I somehow missed the Dr Who phenomenon until the reboot with Christopher Eccleston, and have only seen parts of a couple of the Tom Baker episodes but know people who swear up and down he's the one, yes.

Your one gripe with me is Trump, and my open hatred of Trump.

The manifest indulgence in hatred is both a distressing and a repulsive thing, and in almost any other context it would be seen to be what it is, I imagine. Hope so, anyway.

Am off to bed, after listening to the fourth and fifth acts of Kapsberger's opera Apotheosis sive Consecratio Sanctorum Ignatii et Francisci Xaverii. Honestly, they call it that but I have no idea how elaborate the staging would've been-- perhaps more likely to have been what we call 'semi-staged'. A different cultural world than this one, at any rate!

narciso said...

I grew up on baker, his immediate predecessors i cameto know on the weekend pbs episodes in the late 80s and early 90s

effinayright said...

Chuck said...
Let's drop the big one now.

Dedicated to all of my fellow Americans who are members of Cult 45.
***********

If up-Chuck would like to name any of the Cult 45 members who are advocating dropping the Big One, let hims post their comments here.

What a douchebag.

Chuck said...

wholelottaplainin;

I dedicated a song. I didn't execute an affidavit.

Jon Ericson said...

Glad things didn't turn out the way Farmer, Inger and Chuck wanted.

narciso said...

One of the little gems of the series was city of death set in paris in 1979, renaissance italy and some 400 million years ago, with future star wars and bond villain julian glover.

Kathryn51 said...
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narciso said...

Tom baker, bank atreet in los angeles, that was nearly a month ago.

narciso said...


Worth a hearing:


https://youtu.be/iV4ANKcuTos

Seeing Red said...

Earthquake strikes Iran near nuclear plant

Bwaaaaaaaaaaa

Qwinn said...

I strongly suspect that Hunter Biden is going to be Epsteined very shortly. And we will all soon feel the need to repeat: Hunter Biden didn't kill himself.

FullMoon said...

I enjoy contrasting ol' Chucks comments with Bruce Hayden. Both lawyers but somehow remarkably different. Can't quite put my finger on it.

effinayright said...

Chuck said...
wholelottaplainin;

I dedicated a song. I didn't execute an affidavit.
***************

You dedicated a song to a non-existent set of people.

Lame-o to the nth .

Seeing Red said...


I somehow missed the Dr Who phenomenon until the reboot with Christopher Eccleston, and have only seen parts of a couple of the Tom Baker episodes but know people who swear up and down he's the one, yes.

Actually, I also loved Pertwee. And Colin Baker. And Tennant. But I will confess I had tears in my eyes and squealed when I saw the back of TB’s head in The Day of the Doctor.

Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...

"...he is like the light of morning
at sunrise on a cloudless morning...

His compassions never fail
They are new every morning..."


here's to a cold, crisp, cloudless, colorful sunrise tomorrow!

narciso said...

Colin baker was a step too far, that was an interesting episode.

narciso said...

He was forty when he did the first one and about forty six because davison took over.

Chuck said...

Jon Ericson said...
Glad things didn't turn out the way Farmer, Inger and Chuck wanted.


Significant casualties among our allied Iraqi forces. That probably will mean nothing to much of Trump World. Shame on them for that.

narciso said...

Just smashes head into desk.
You have learned padawan

narciso said...



Better luck next time:

https://mobile.twitter.com/jaketapper/status/1214751765440143361

narciso said...

Vitamemeganin





https://mobile.twitter.com/DeplorablySassy/status/1214752373056380929

Qwinn said...

Chuck would have way preferred dead Americans to use against Trump, but if all he can use to blame Trump is dead Iraqis killed by Iranian strikes, well, Chuck is always willing to sink to the occasion.

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