Schiffs impeachment is a FARCE becauseThe reference to Article II, Section 3 of the Constitution is to the "Take Care" clause — the President "shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed."
1. There was no military aid withheld.
2. The conversation about corruption in Ukraine was based on compelling evidence of criminal conduct by then VP Biden, in 2016, that has not been resolved and until it is will be a major obstacle... ... to the US assisting Ukraine with its anti-corruption reforms.
The American people will learn that Biden & other Obama administration officials, contributed to the increased level of corruption in Ukraine between 2014 to 2016.
This evidence will all be released very soon.
The Accounts Chamber in Ukraine found an alleged misuse of $5.3B in U.S. funds during the Obama administration while Biden was “Point Man.”
Obama embassy urged Ukrainian police NOT to investigate!
Stay tuned to find out why.
Shocking disclosure:
Much of the $5.3B in US Aid Ukraine reported as misused was given to the embassy’s favored NGO’s.
At the time Yovanovitch, witness for the Witchunt, was the Amb. That embassy directed the police not to investigate.
Wonder why Obama forgot Art. 2, Sec. 3.
Presidential Legal Obligations 101:
Art 2, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution obligates the President to investigate and ask for investigations of corruption in countries we provide funds to.
Who ever heard of a president being impeached for carrying out his constitutional mandate?
It comes as a huge shock to Democrats that @realDonaldTrump will ask for investigations concerning violations of US laws & misused hard-earned tax payer dollars.
It’s called his legal obligation under Article 2, Sec. 3 of the US Constitution. Ignored by Obama.
In reviewing my notes, it seems to me that a large scale joint investigation into Ukraine and the US would uncover and recover billions stolen by crooks, from both countries, at the highest levels.
This would be the most effective way to bring our two countries together.
December 8, 2019
I'm catching up on Rudy Giuliani's tweets about Ukraine.
I won't do links for each tweet. Here's his Twitter page. I'm just crushing everything together. The relevant tweets are from December 5 to December 7.
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Facts don’t matter, the narrative matters. People rank on Howard all the time, but it seems to me that he is communicating quite clearly and making solid points. For instance, he says that the impeachment of Clinton was about a “blow job.” He quite rightly points out that you can huff and puff about the actual articles of impeachment, the “blow job” narrative ended up carrying the day. He knows that it wasn’t really about a blow job, what what would be the point of him admitting that.
We rant on and on about the “facts” but he knows that Democrats have control of the press. To him, we are like the natives attacking with our bows and spears of facts and reason, but he just laughs because he knows his side has the “Thompson Gun,” control of the narrative. This impeachment will be about whatever the press decides it’s about.
He doesn’t come back here daily because he thinks he is getting "owned.” He comes back to make points for his side. When somebody like ST starts in with the homosexual based insults, this is a win for him because the narrative is that Republicans are anti gay. What he is saying, and this is one of the few things he has said that you can take at face value, is that none of these petty facts matter, what matters is the theater, and Democrats own TV shows “Madame Secretary” started out as an extended Hillary ad. The FBI getting beat up? Let’s produce a show called “The FBI” to polish up their image, etc, etc. Movies? I don’t even need to start there, Late Nite TV? That’s a Democrat lake.
CNN+MSNBC have more viewers than FOX.
Rough numbers:
Fox has 2 million viewers.
CNN+MSNBC 3 million
ABC 8 million
NBC 8 million
CBS 6 million
Total narrative purveyors: 25 million.
They outweigh Fox 10-1, especially in their reach to low information voters.
This seems like a heavy lift even for them though, that investigation of Biden’s obvious corruption is the real crime here. Trump has a solid case to make, but he can’t make it without the co-operation of the press, which will not co-operate. We can only hope that it’s hubris that they think they can get away with it, but right now, I am assuming they will.
But then again, I went to bed early on election night and missed the greatest night of television ever.
It doesn’t help that they have flipped Drudge. The Washington Post is a joke, and has been since Obama came on the scene, the New York Times sees itself as a player rather than observer, and is all in on creating this impeachment. The New York Times has lived and breathed by “deep state” leaks for decades.
Drudge isn't flipped, just going after clicks. The enemy audience is bigger.
#JOURNALISM: MSNBC and CNN use a well-known deceptively edited video to discredit Trump. The reason they’re always accusing the right of “doctored video” is that it’s what they do themselves.. - Instapundit.com
Facts don’t matter.
"The enemy audience is bigger.”
Yeah, but it is also split many more ways.
We rant on and on about the “facts” but he knows that Democrats have control of the press
As Jo Biden so often said: We Choose Truth (Pravda) Over Facts!
Skylark, *this*. In order to prevail, Trump will need to get through to the low information uncommitted voter too busy with jobs, paying bills, and raising children. That, along with expected massive Democratic voter fraud will make next fall's election a cliffhanger.
Okay; so just as will be alleged in one or more articles of impeachment, the “corruption” investigation really was Biden investigation.
Thanks for clearing that up, Rudy. Guilty as charged.
I may be surprised if this is demonstrated to be true, but I won’t be surprised if it is true. We knew within months of Obama’s inauguration that his administration would mostly be about looting the treasury to enrich his friends. Which is one reason why I felt we couldn’t withstand 8 years of Clinton looting the treasury to enrich herself.
Some judge in Hawaii has already established that the law only recognizes motive, not legality.
Clarify please: the President of the United States is not allowed to investigate foreign corruption by US citizens, including public office holders? Or is it only Trump as President that is not allowed to investigate this sort of corruption? Or is it that Trump may not investigate alleged corruption by a political rival? But only if Trump is running for re-election? What about when he is in his second term?
I suspect this report that is coming out tomorrow, that so many are anticipating, will be a grave disappointment to those that expect to hear about serious wrongdoing and indictments. There are too many people involved that have an interest in protecting the status quo. Best case for Trump is the report identifies some procedural errors, missteps, sloppiness, etc. that undermines the credibility of those pushing for impeachment. Best case.
But then again, I went to bed early on election night and missed the greatest night of television ever.
Me too. It was a nice way to wake up. though.
The Democrats have the press and TV but fewer and fewer trust them. The Democrats' story is so ridiculous that, as the Senate trial goes on, the public will see it is silly. I still think the resolution may not pass but Nancy seems to have decided she has no choice.
People who are receiving real facts begin to work the crossword puzzles for themselves. The Internet has let the cats out of the bag all over the World. Witness the riots that will not stop: France, Hong Kong,Bolivia, together with anti corruption, non-politician candidates winning Presidency.
The Americans who are paying attention have long since gave up believing the CIA narratives. All they needed was a chance to get the hidden truth. And Q has been at work on that angle for 2 years.
Here is the link from Instapundit that Skylark referenced. Really jaw dropping.
Between that and Schiff just basically making up which White House numbers Rudy and a reporter called, they really want to film flam their way into an impeachment.
I don't know if Rudy is right or Rudy is wrong. But having an advisor who is wrong about a foreign country isn't a High Crime or Misdemeanor.
Rudy is nuclear weapons to the players in Global Crime Syndicate. Rudy is following the money. He will find who got chunks of the 4.6 billion dollars foreign aid slush fund.
Then Rudy will locate the loot from CIA heroin trafficking and child trafficking operations. Rudy has become the drug sniffing dog that has had a contract put out on him.
Clarify please: the President of the United States is not allowed to investigate foreign corruption by US citizens, including public office holders? Or is it only Trump as President that is not allowed to investigate this sort of corruption? Or is it that Trump may not investigate alleged corruption by a political rival? But only if Trump is running for re-election? What about when he is in his second term?
What about the political rivals- when does candidacy begin? With the CNN presser? Do you need a verbal declaration or can can you be just thinking about it? Is a rival anyone else running or just the guy Democrats have already picked? What if you didn’t know the political rival was corrupt and you just stumbled upon it when you were asking to investigate some other Democrat? Does that count?
No one believes Cokehead Son was the only one making money in Ukraine. Obama has five houses now.
What Skylark said.
But ….
If you stand by and say nothing then you are complicit in their dishonesty. At the end of the day , when my children ask me, "What did you do to stop it?" I can answer with a clear conscience, I did everything I could. That is something the progressives like Howard can't do.
The US State Department -- in particular, the US Embassy in Kyiv -- never, ever would investigate the Bidens' corruption in Ukraine.
Never. Ever.
Skylark makes some excellent points but narratives change. People are far more cynical and suspicious of the media than they used to be. I don't think the press understands this. The media people demonstrate shabby behavior in their personal lives and overt bias in their reporting. A significant proportion of the public no longer believes the narratives nor the narrators. Look at what happened to the Catholic Church.
In one of his tweets rudy says he is "the president's lawyer"
In another he says he has "taken not one penny" for this.
For the lawyers here; is that possible? I always thought that for representation to take place, payment, however minimal has to take place.
John Henry
Crushing them the “all” together but leaving out the tweets directed at Steve Hilton, which were very much about Ukraine.
That was lynn chus conjecture looking at all the members of the country team that testified.
Back in the wayback machine:
https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/350692/?fbclid=IwAR30SM0HRSjGQ0P1cZ7w6bbmvuN60Ca1ac8gKvcGx7VkK9w-utnbTEXP7qU
Youse guys obsess over the "low information voter" as if he were some type of inferior being. You reveal yourselves as elitist twits, every bit as condescending and pig ignorant as the cast at CNN or MSNBC.
Those low information voters are what America is all about. It is they who have wrought the closest thing to Heaven on earth in all of creation. The genius of the republican form of government is that people don't have to obsess about the day to day operation of government. They are free to exercise their God given right to to pursuit of happiness. They hire people to take care of governing and every two years they get to review their performance, say yeah or nay.
And how do they assess the hired hands? It ain't the telebishion. If that were true we'd all be driving Edsels and drinking New Coke. No, they notice that the signs say "Help Wanted" instead of "For Lease". They notice that their paychecks are bigger. They notice that they're not showing beheadings on the 6 o'clock news anymore.
How do we know this? Record contributions to Trump's campaign and the Republican Party. Record numbers of small contributors. Overflowing venues at campaign rallies in a non-election year. It's happening. I'm just sitting here with a silly grin watching the clowns paint themselves into more corners that I ever thought could fit in a room.
Giuliani also says he's found evidence that Burisma laundered millions of dollars thru at least 2 or 3 foreign entities that ultimately wound up in the bank account of Hunter Biden's company. That's a felony.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMNKP65yQ1A
Well are people who watch msnbc or listen to npr anymore informed ill suggest not, the middlebrow is probably close to whats required.
"Those low information voters are what America is all about.”
“The common clay of this great land.”
“Morons."
“Crushing them the “all” together but leaving out the tweets directed at Steve Hilton, which were very much about Ukraine”
Thanks, now that makes me go look up what Rudy has to say to Steve Hilton about Ukraine. Good to know the whole story.
“Corruption investigation” and “Biden investigation” are not mutually exclusive. In fact, they go together like peas and carrots, or pork and barrel.
Oddly all those so-called morons lined up all over the country to make sure Hillary! was not elected.
And now the electorate looks very likely to re-elect Trump based on his record, Rep. Al Green notwithstanding.
Random names out of the phone book are still better than names out of the Harvard Faculty Directory.
Common sense and common decency do not survive the self-motivated interests of the "well-informed" BSers.
With the way the international banking system is monitored these days, it ought to be a pretty straightforward process to work out how politicians and former politicians have enriched themselves so disproportionately to the people they putatively work for.
Yes, they can obscure the origins of their lucre by laundering it through book contracts, and front-running cattle futures, and insider trading, and art auctions, and offshore accounts, and sweetheart real estate development deals. But can’t all the fearsome post-9/11 surveillance and subpoena powers untangle these schemes?
Or are they meant only to keep private enterprise under the thumb of the Beltway uniparty, with a “gentleman’s” agreement not to apply them to politicians of either party, with a wink and a nod from their compliant co-conspirators in the national media?
The next year will provide definitive answers to these questions. The fate of the Republic hangs upon the outcome.
Mike S said.
The US State Department -- in particular, the US Embassy in Kyiv -- never, ever would investigate the Bidens' corruption in Ukraine.
Never. Ever.
this. D's are allowed an all access pass to money grubbing international pay-to-play and we have to shut up and watch as they get away with it.
'the “corruption” investigation really was Biden investigation.'
Q: "Why do you rob banks?"
A: "That's where the money is."
Blogger Chuck said...
"Okay; so just as will be alleged in one or more articles of impeachment, the “corruption” investigation really was Biden investigation.
Thanks for clearing that up, Rudy. Guilty as charged."
Guilty of what, Chuckie? Pray do tell...
Tommy Duncan,
Giuliani is guilty of investigating Democratics while Republican.
Q.E.D.
Every racist fopdoodle agrees.
It's not just cattle futures anymore.
Puerto Rico has always been a cesspit of corruption especially when it comes to federal funds, of which we get a lot.
The person in charge of those funds, as head of the federal financial control board is a Ukranian citizen and former finance minister of Ukraine. Natalie Jaresko
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Jaresko
We are completely and totally fucked.
Rudy G and PDJT are our only hopes.
John Henry
And she had been the economics counselor at the embassy, how do you pull that hattrick.
Exactly, Skylark. What surprises me is so few of you people have a positive attitude like Roy Loftquist. One thing you guys might forget is in 2008, the Republicans had to spend considerable political capital for the incompetent goulish lawyered up war on Terror and the Great Recession. Let's stipulate that Trump has made positive improvements in war and the economy.
Why is he struggling in the polls? The MSM might swing 5-points. It's the fact that he has worked hardest to promote his bases deplorable social agenda that many people see as hateful.
Blogger narciso said...
And she had been the economics counselor at the embassy, how do you pull that hattrick.
If you are going to send US taxpayer's money to Ukraine to recycle back to folks like Biden, Obama and their cronies, what better position?
John Henry
Deplorable social agenda:
Pro-gay but anti-men in girl's bathrooms.
Seems legit.
I do believe that when it comes to something as divisive as impeachment, we have to leave members up to their own consciences...
...which is easy for him to say since his members don't have them.
It's the fact that he has worked hardest to promote his bases deplorable social agenda that many people see as hateful.
What agenda is that Howard? How is it deplorable?
Too many jobs for Blacks, Latinos, and semi-skilled laborers.
Average FICO score above 700 for the first time in history.
Stock market at all-time highs which benefits my retirement.
World's leading producer of oil which takes economic power away from Russia and the Middle East.
Not starting any foreign wars.
Which of these accomplishments are deplorable, Howard?
the Republicans had to spend considerable political capital for the incompetent goulish lawyered up war on Terror and the Great Recession.
Fake history,. Howard. A lot of that on the left these days.
The Great Recession is a direct result of the Community Reinvestment Act as expanded and the Mortgage bankers who sold tranches of mortgages that were the result of the ACORN pushed lending standards.
Read Nicole Gelinas' book about it.
Or, you could even read My review of the book, written in 2009.
As for the "War on Terror," that was a combination of Bush excess resulting from Clinton's negligence and the Democrats' insistence on unionizing airport security. The TSA has a current 90% failure rate on screening passengers.
You can try to place the blame on the Democrats all you want Doctor Michael Kennedy however the fact remains that the Republican party paid for both of those debacles politically. Just like it now appears that the Democrats paid for Obamacare by sacrificing seats on the supreme Court.
Francisco d. Did you not see my stipulation in my comment to most everything that you said in your post.
Howard said, "Exactly, Skylark. What surprises me is so few of you people have a positive attitude like Roy Loftquist."
The first paragraph of your comment has a lot of sense. I agree with Loftquist that some of us on the right can stereotype "the people" as thoroughly (and badly) as many on the left.
The response to the terrorist threat and the Great Recession was simply Your Government in Action. No one really knows what to do, but We Have to Do Something!
But, I disagree with the second paragraph, in which you say Trump "has worked hardest to promote his bases deplorable social agenda". Help me out here. Trump strikes me as quite indifferent to gay marriage. He appears not the least anti-black. His "attitude" about women appears to be no different than the attitude of any powerful man. No ideology required. How has he "work hardest" to promote a "hateful agenda"?
Francisco d. Did you not see my stipulation in my comment to most everything that you said in your post.
Then what is the point to your post? What is deplorable about Trump's social agenda?
You can try to place the blame on the Democrats all you want Doctor Michael Kennedy however the fact remains that the Republican party paid for both of those debacles politically.
Howard denying reality does not make it go away. I would also suggest you read (you do read, don't you?) Angelo Codevilla's essay on the "Uniparty." Both parties are deep into the trough. That's why Republican voters got tired of being ignored, as the Tea Party was, and decided to throw a brick through the window, named Trump.
We did not realize that he would be so successful that the left would go insane trying to pull him down.
Francisco d you know exactly what the left and a portion of the middle hates about Trump catering to Bible and Rust Belt triggerpoints.
Howard has not figured out, or won't admit it, that the religious got tired of being lied to and chose to go with the guy that didn't lie to them, even if he was divorced and was OK with gays.
Bob: remember, these are perceptions that IMO are responsible for Trump's low polls given the strength of the economy and war on the down low:
Putting kids in cages, anti-muslim, anti-lgbtq, anti-planned Parenthood, anti-obamacare, enabling racist nationalist factions.
Mike, that reads like Jabberwocky. Try again.
Howard said...
Francisco d you know exactly what the left and a portion of the middle hates about Trump catering to Bible and Rust Belt triggerpoints.
You do realize your arguments works equally well if not better against the Left. There is a reason Trump was elected and you keep being oblivious to your highlighting why he was elected and why he will probably be re-elected and probably regain the House and retain the Senate.
Francisco d you know exactly what the left and a portion of the middle hates about Trump catering to Bible and Rust Belt triggerpoints.
Howard,
You are being very vague because (I suspect) your thoughts on the matter are poorly formed and lacking in substance.
Please tell me how Trump caters to the Bible Belt.
Does he walk around with a Bible in his hands like Bill Clinton? Does he oppose gay marriage like all the Dem POTUS nominees who have since "grown"?
What is wrong with catering to Rust Belt people by helping them get jobs? I am a Chicagoan and thus, a Rust Belter. Are we now deplorables?
Let's see you make some clear points instead of throwing out some vague bullshit.
Let’s have a sense of humor here.
I’m not ridiculing gaydom in ridiculing Howard.
I’m ridiculing that goofy Biggus Dickus act of his and I”m in good company. Remember?
Beyond that, who in the fuck said gays should be or are exempt from ridicule? Gays are not being murdered in the street because somebody makes jokes. I’m tired of people presenting that lame BS and I don’t give a fuck. I’m not a political candidate or operative. And, I’m not going to pretend gays are under siege in the U.S. That’s a lot of shit.
Glory Hole Howard’s standard name calling gambit is “cuck.” Look that up on porn. A cuck is a guy who likes to watch his girl fuck other men, usually a white guy and it usually involves black men.
Now, I’m not going to go all mushy and hurt feelings on that either. There’s an audience and a fan base for every perversion. Howard’s misusing a word that, in its prominent political meaning nowadays, means an apologist for feminism and an ass kisser of liberal women.
I think sexual behavior of all sorts is incredibly funny and fair game for humor. Fuck you if you think otherwise. Having a sense of humor about this shit is more important to me than the Republican Party or Trump.
Shorter form:
I’m not going to embrace PC because some moron thinks it might help President Trump.
Although, I do support the president.
Putting kids in cages, anti-muslim, anti-lgbtq, anti-planned Parenthood, anti-obamacare, enabling racist nationalist factions.
Kids in cages was Obama, Howard
Anti_Muslim keeps getting Pensacola incidents of "workplace violence" that weakens that argument.
anti-Planned Parenthood is hilarious given the decline in abortions and the scandals about selling baby parts,.
Anti-Obamacare, like "Medicare for All" maybe? Come on, You can do better,
"racist nationalist factions, like Black Lives Matter ?
You're getting into landslide territory, Howard. You had better quit,.
Via Skylark;Howard has bought a narrative and now must promote that narrative or be considered not progressive. It makes no difference whether it is true or not. Howard is becoming a slightly more intelligent Chuck.
Blogger cubanbob said...
You do realize your arguments works equally well if not better against the Left.
Exactly. It's a double edge sword. The dems need to go back to enough of their blue collar roots to swing back the Obama-Trump voters. The money seems to behind Biden to do this. QED
Glory Hole Howard, are you getting all serious now?
At least the dumb Biggus Dickus act was kinda funny.
You’re going all silly policy wonk now?
And the correct term is “youse guys,” not “you guys.”
What the fuck kind of tough guy says “you guys?”
Howard said, "...enabling racist nationalist factions."
Howard, let's pick one and try to get some specifics. How exactly has Donald Trump "enabled racist nationalist factions"?
Howard > racist fopdoodle
Sense of humor when not dickish > always dickish
no he can't, it's not on his cue card, Obamacare was designed to cripple the health care system, by raising the deductibales and narrowing provider networks,
of course one of the seeds of the subprime crisis, in addition to the cra revisions, was the lawsuit against Citicorp, captained by Obama, the banks rewarded him biden and dodd, hansomly for that favor,
Yes Chuck.
That Biden is the point man in the suspected corruption makes him off-limits.
Because politics.
Former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Barbara McQuade on the notion that without any approval, authorization or deputization from the Department of Justice (which has firmly distanced itself from him), Giuliani is engaged in an investigation of corruption in Ukraine:
“The FBI has agents and legal attaches for this purpose. Treaties permit them to work with their authorized law enforcement counterparts to obtain evidence. No legitimate reason to send a private lawyer like Giuliani to Ukraine to investigate crime.”
Yeah..the esteemed FBI don't like it.
Surprise.
rhhardin said...
Drudge isn't flipped, just going after clicks. The enemy audience is bigger.
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Go to the lower right on his page, where you can see that his clicks have DROPPED.
https://truepundit.com/drudge-bleeds-out-as-conservatives-flee-rapid-decline-parallels-the-enron-model/
"Drudge’s overall web traffic is down nearly 18 percent in September and October, according to the tracking metrics on Similar Web. That’s a massive and accelerated slide from approximately 93 million visits to 77 million."
“The FBI has agents and legal attaches for this purpose. Treaties permit them to work with their authorized law enforcement counterparts to obtain evidence. No legitimate reason to send a private lawyer like Giuliani to Ukraine to investigate crime.”
Except for the part about the FBI being corrupt and the named "fixer" for the Democrat Party. Hell, Wray may be skimming a cut of the graft himself.
We suspect the phone logs Schiff included in his work of fiction investigation, was obtained by National Security Letters. A type of warrant, no judge needs to approve. Wray had to sign off on the NSL. Since the Ukraine persons of interest that were indicted on Campaign Finance laws, a big question as to the just cause for seeking such phone records.
Because the FBI was corrupt, and Wray has done nothing to address the corruption. That is the reason the President sent a person he could trust. An action well within his Article II powers.
Chuck said...
Former U.S. Attorney for the Eastern District of Michigan Barbara McQuade on the notion that without any approval, authorization or deputization from the Department of Justice (which has firmly distanced itself from him), Giuliani is engaged in an investigation of corruption in Ukraine:
“The FBI has agents and legal attaches for this purpose. Treaties permit them to work with their authorized law enforcement counterparts to obtain evidence. No legitimate reason to send a private lawyer like Giuliani to Ukraine to investigate crime.”
************
And to think, for over fifty years, we've sat through movies and TV series predicated on the idea of "Private Investigators" and journalists sniffing out political corruption.
Woodward, Bernstein and Magnum: call your offices!!
these are perceptions that IMO are responsible for Trump's low polls given the strength of the economy and war on the down low:
Perceptions?
That people have these "perceptions" is proof of the success of the media in promoting lies. Your list, is a list of lies, half truths, propaganda, and lies of omission.
the problem is as lynn chu has pointed out, the country team is totally in the tank for the corruption, William taylor knows the drill since he covered for it, in Afghanistan and Iraq,
McQuade was appointed by Obama, left (or was dismissed) after Trump’s election, and now contributes to MSNBC. A real straight shooter. Of course she would be referenced by Chuck.
Drudge report has been sold and Matt Drudge is no longer involved.
According to Alex Jones, so take it with a grain of salt.
I've seen a number of other reports in recent weeks itthat it has to do with his father seeking his media company and Drudge had sold part of Dr as part of the deal.
John Henry
Ah the parnas snipe hunt came from trevor potters campaign legal center the pusher of campaign finance reform.
Blogger narciso said...
the problem is as lynn chu has pointed out, the country team is totally in the tank for the corruption, William taylor knows the drill since he covered for it, in Afghanistan and Iraq,
If true, this would be all the more reason for Trump to:
A. Direct Barr to undertake the lead in a broad, multiagency/international law enforcement investigation;
B. Not leave it to a brand new just-elected president of Ukraine and his compromised national law enforcement personnel;
C. Not ask the Ukrainian president to announce anything with an important sensitive investigation underway.
D. Not say anything else publicly that might compromise an active DoJ investigation.
"Woodward, Bernstein and Magnum: call your offices!!"
Woodward and Bernstein worked for a high-minded newspaper. So they were Holy and now Sainted.
Giuliani works for Trump, so he is a Tool of the Devil.
But your point is germane. If LEO and the press won't investigate, why can't a private attorney?
“Exactly. It's a double edge sword. The dems need to go back to enough of their blue collar roots to swing back the Obama-Trump voters. The money seems to behind Biden to do this. QED”
As I said in the other thread - delusional. Yes, Slo Joe can probably talk to those blue collar voters who have moved into the Trump column better than any of his competitors. But he no longer has the mental facilities to survive a Presidential campaign. Most everyone now knows it. Before the Ukrainian impeachment investigation, Trump might have laid off a bit about SLO Joe’s mental issues. He lost that when the Dems started trying to impeach Trump because he threatened Biden. That made it personal. For one thing, presumed whistleblower Eric Ciaramella has close ties to Biden, closer to him probably than anyone high up other than Brennan. Crooked Hillary was able to run almost a Rose Garden campaign last time, because she was the insider. Biden (or Clinton, for that matter) would be the challenger this time, and spending all their time fund raising, instead of making public appearances, wouldn’t work. But neither one of them could afford very many campaign appearances, because they are sure to screw up, and reinforce their mental or physical inability to do the job, which would be a constant campaign theme by Trump.
"What the fuck kind of tough guy says “you guys?”"
The kind whos mom buys him Marmot hats.
Woodward and bernatein covered for a passiver senior bureaucrat who was as unscrupulous as nixon, the exec editor covered for kennedy more readily.
Passed over, whose practices led to bill ayers been acquitted, he may have not been aware how the media breakin implicated him
“The FBI has agents and legal attaches for this purpose. Treaties permit them to work with their authorized law enforcement counterparts to obtain evidence. No legitimate reason to send a private lawyer like Giuliani to Ukraine to investigate crime.”
Sure, that is the theory. The reality is that the FBI has been more a part of the problem, than part of the solution. Not nearly as bad as the CIA and State Department, but still not on the side of the angels. Part of why Guliani probably got involved, is that the State Dept and CIA are fighting exposing the Obama/Clinton/Kerry corruption in our dealings with Ukraine tooth and nail. Ukrainians attempting to come to the US to testify before Congress continue being blocked for entry visas over three years after Trump was elected President. Billions in aid flushed through the Ukraine, with top US politicians raking off significant portions of that in payment for our largess. Should anyone be surprised that Schifty went after Giuliani’s phone records? Or that the career prosecutors in the SDNY are after him? Trump and Guliani are existential threats to the powers, from both parties, who have been making billions of dollars by skimming off the trillions our government spends every year.
This is a lot like Rick Perry being indicted for using his state constitutional power of veto. It created the best mug shot ever, but it was a dumb case brought by a corrupt DA.
Joe is playing the Beau card now.
the one thing I do fault guiliani, for this aggressive prosecutorial culture that congealed into pat fitzgerald, Elliot spitzer and preet bhaara, in part, Like I say I remember when the village voice went after candidate and mayor guiliani, over some matters re the firm of white and case, he was briefly affiliated with,
who was going to bell, the cat, the country team wasn't going to call attention to themselves, in fact they blocked shokin, lutsenko and co, from receiving visas, McCain and graham weren't going to investigated, they had received decorations for the support of the maidan, forget the fact that lutsenko was a leader of the maidan himself,
Why is he struggling in the polls?
Five points higher than President Precious at the same time in his Presidency ain't struggling, boy.
Blogger Bruce Hayden said...
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Sure, that is the theory. The reality is that the FBI has been more a part of the problem, than part of the solution. Not nearly as bad as the CIA and State Department, but still not on the side of the angels. Part of why Guliani probably got involved, is that the State Dept and CIA are fighting exposing the Obama/Clinton/Kerry corruption in our dealings with Ukraine tooth and nail. Ukrainians attempting to come to the US to testify before Congress continue being blocked for entry visas over three years after Trump was elected President. Billions in aid flushed through the Ukraine, with top US politicians raking off significant portions of that in payment for our largess. Should anyone be surprised that Schifty went after Giuliani’s phone records? Or that the career prosecutors in the SDNY are after him? Trump and Guliani are existential threats to the powers, from both parties, who have been making billions of dollars by skimming off the trillions our government spends every year.
Alex Jones for President!
The perception is the reality. Hello...is anyone home???
Then why can't Trump get his polls north of 45%? The economy is gangbusters, fewer military adventures.
IMO, it's His cowtowning to you people pisses off more than half the country.
it's quite plausible, bruce hayden, but the blank pages will not broach this subject, in fact they aim the ion cannon at everybody who looks into the matter, like kulyk, of course kolomoisky was on the accepted list, and firtash was on the outside, even though their offenses were dissimilar, the latter a bribery charge in india, what business is that of ours,
so they target john Solomon, who has provided documentary evidence, instead of third hand hearsay. if they knew about McIntyre on this front, they would aim their guns at him,
Has anyone else noticed that Chuckles has morphed not Inga now that he has given up his LLR pretense?
now kolomoisky is the owner of privat bank who in turn in classic Russian nesting doll, fashion owns burisma, zylochevsky is the contact with western European interests through the Monaco conference,
kolomoisky paid miss mucarsel's husband, which enabled her to take carlos curbelo's seat, he was the bobble head doll on f chuck's peanut gallery today,
Ann,
A HUGE story the mainstream media will not report:
Bill Barr on Friday indicted eight individuals for illegally funneling millions of dollars in foreign money to Adam Schiff, Hillary Clinton and several Democratic senators.
you see they don't want to touch this matter with a 10 foot poll, floating in the black sea, its' embarrassing for the eu, the osce, even former us govt officials, like mary 'Louisiana purchase' Landrieu, although her capacity for embarrassment is endless,
George nader was the tip of the iceberg,
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/california-ceo-and-seven-others-charged-multi-million-dollar-conduit-campaign-contribution
Nadler's Judiciary Committee has decided to charge Trump with:
TREASON
Chuck and Inga have orgasms over the internet.
Howard said...
The perception is the reality. Hello...is anyone home???
Then why can't Trump get his polls north of 45%? The economy is gangbusters, fewer military adventures.
IMO, it's His cowtowning to you people pisses off more than half the country.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/trump_administration/trump_approval_index_history
51% approval. Better than Obama ever had.
And, you simpleton, when the media is 98% arrayed against Trump, where do you think morons like you are gonna hear any good news about the POTUS?
"Forget it, Howard: it's Cowtown."
’Alex Jones for President!’
Bruce Hayden is one of the most erudite and insightful commenters on the blogosphere, yet you choose to insult him thusly. Sad!!
Howard said...
The perception is the reality. Hello...is anyone home???
Howard, you should restrict yourself to posting in the morning. By this time you are drunk and it is painfully obvious.
Trump's polls are rising as the Democrats get more crazy. Last I saw was 53%. Add about 10% for the people who lie to pollsters and it is outtta sight.
Go to bed,. Howard.
Chuck is another crazy.
I don't know anything about One America News (OAN), but at least some in the press might be doing their job.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgKGjoIkaXU&feature=youtu.be
H/T Instapundit
Twitter keeps taking that video down.
""Drudge’s overall web traffic is down nearly 18 percent in September and October,”
I still catch myself beginning to type it in.
Howard said...
Then why can't Trump get his polls north of 45%?
Why couldn't Obama?
When you look at side by side monthly polls for both Obama's and pdjt's presidencies pdjt is slightly ahead most months.
Since Jan 2017
Obama was seldom above 50%
John Henry
Man, you people are such dupes.
“The Trump campaign is flooding Facebook with anti-impeachment ads that misleadingly imply House Democrats are pushing "treason" allegations against President Donald Trump in the ongoing impeachment inquiry.
The ads, which started running on the social media site Thursday, ask for donations and float the word "treason" in two different ways. One set of ads implies Democrats are making "treason" allegations against the president, while other ads could be interpreted as the campaign claiming Democrats pushing impeachment are treasonous—a loaded word the president himself has used against his critics.”
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-campaign-runs-misleading-anti-impeachment-facebook-ads/story?id=67553451
Tmj,
Yeah, I was going to post about that. I think it is pretty huge.
Eyeballing it, i see more than $3million to demmie groups
https://www.opensecrets.org/search?order=desc&q=ahmad+khawaja&sort=A&type=donors&scrim=B
Gateway pundit has more details on the 8 indicted
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2019/12/update-bill-barr-indicts-8-including-mueller-top-witness-for-funneling-millions-in-foreign-donations-to-adam-schiff-hillary-clinton-and-top-senate-democrats/
John Henry
Where Howard fall short is where he assumes that because he is not fair minded, as he freely admits, at least by implication, he thinks nobody is fair minded.
Reason and persuasion are still powerful tools.
I noticed that Inga is posting. Let me know if she say anything interesting.
I was just going to write that about Chuck. Somebody tell me when he writes an evidence based argument instead of just informing us of his bigoted conclusions. There is no point ever reading Inga because she has said that she is only here to disrupt.
What nonsense. Can anyone name a single major news outlet that did not feature a story about the indictments last week which include George Nader? They all did; Washington Post; WSJ; NBC; you name them.
None of you mentioned Nader’s meetings with Bannon an Kushner; or Nader’s ties to Trump donation bundler Elliott Broidy; or the million dollars that Nader funneled to the Trump inaugural.
Just an oversight I’m sure. Althouse will get to it when she blogs the story.
Everyone knew that story, its the other oart thats been hidden for three years, the uae is supporting egypt and libyan and syrian and yemeni forces against turkey amd qatar backed islamists
Chuck said...
What nonsense. Can anyone name a single major news outlet that did not feature a story about the indictments last week which include George Nader? They all did; Washington Post; WSJ; NBC; you name them.
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Ahhhh....so Trump's alleged attempts to seek advantage by asking that corruption of a would-be political opponent be investigated ( a subject covered by a TREATY) is NO DIFFERENT than a bunch of foreigners illegally putting money into Hillary's coffers, eh?
And Nader's meetings with Bannon et al and the latter's contributions to the Trump inauguration---according to you---are NO DIFFERENT than actual violations of Federal Election Law.
Wanna tell us what Trump et al's crimes were, estupida?
SNORT!!
Inga said...
Man, you people are such dupes.
How you start an argument to try to convince somebody of your theory,
Give it up Inga. Nobody thinks you have a valid point.
Chuck said... I am afraid you are mistaking me for someone who has an interest in fair treatment of Donald Trump. I'm not your guy. I am interested in smearing him, hurting him and prejudicing people against him.
But you can buy some reprieve with a donated big ass bottle of gin.
Chuck, you FUCKWIT:
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90028 ALLIED WALLET 06-28-2017 $2,700.00 Schiff, Adam (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 10-06-2016 $2,700.00 Schiff, Adam (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 07-08-2016 $2,700.00 Clinton, Hillary (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD MOHAMAD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90028 ALLIED WALLET 06-30-2016 $2,700.00 Booker, Cory (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD
LOS ANGELES, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 10-16-2017 $2,300.00 Stabenow, Debbie (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD M
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 05-15-2018 $2,300.00 Heitkamp, Heidi (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD K
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 05-11-2018 $2,300.00 Baldwin, Tammy (D)
Money to Candidates KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 05-07-2018 $2,300.00 Manchin, Joe (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of South Carolina (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Pennsylvania (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of New Hampshire (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic State Cmte of Massachusetts (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Colorado (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Montana (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Executive Cmte of Florida (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Indiana Democratic Congressional Victory Cmte (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Cmte of Utah (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Texas (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Wisconsin (D)
Money to Parties KHAWAJA, AHMAD
WEST HOLLYWOOD, CA 90069 ALLIED WALLET 06-08-2016 $2,137.00 Democratic Party of Oklahoma (D)
You get the drift, you utterly dishonest sack of shit????
Wut?
I never claimed that Andy Khawaja was not a huge Dem donor. He is. He’s been photographed with Hillary in some of those dopey donor-gets-a-handshake photos.
But then he turned into a Trump donor. The moment that the 2016 election was over, and he could start funneling money into the Trump inaugural.
Whereupon Andy Khajawa got one of those dopey donor photos, with Trump, in the Oval Office.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/nypost.com/2018/08/02/shady-payment-processor-gave-millions-to-hillary-and-trump/amp/
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