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৭৮টি মন্তব্য:
the coup has started
at least, they've Always been Totally upfront about what they're doing
If you're going to "kill a king" or defenestrate a government, it's not a real good idea to announce your plans in advance. I think it's an effective ad--and Zaid would like to take back his tweet.
A very positive message from the POTUS.
It wasn't exactly a secret, this coup.
Well, it's all true
I agree, Althouse, this is an effective ad. Effective enough for me to send the President $100 for his re-election campaign, with more to come later.
Don't get livid. Get vivid!
It's a pretty good ad because it gets right to the point. People who post here tend to be well educated and well informed (and mostly rational).
The average voter (well educated or not) is not very well informed. They listen to the MSM in the background while they re doing other things. They need to hear the other side. This ad helps in that regard.
Effective with whom?
Cet animal est très méchant:
Quand on l’attaque, il se défend.
"Effective with whom?"
Everyone who either already supports Trump, or who has an open mind on the matter of this impeachment effort. I can guess from your question that you want Trump impeached. The ad isn't directed at you, it is about you.
Should have called Zaid the "so-called whistleblower's lawyer".
There is nothing about what he has accomplished, this is just trying to keep people from leaving his flock.
It is aimed solely at his sycophants and makes it clear that they are very concerned about keeping everyone on board. If you already drank the kool aid, then this ad should help vaccinate you against reading about the impeachment witnesses or thinking for yourself.
I don't see how this is effective to anyone who isn't already buying the snake oil.
Trump IS the whistleblower.
Mark said..."witnesses"...
None of the people testifying were even in the same room as the phone calls and you call them witnesses?
Adam Schitt is a disgrace.
I guess Vindman works for Ukraine, not the US.
I don't see how this is effective to anyone who isn't already buying the snake oil.
That snake oil has driven the stock market to a record high and unemployment to a record low. It must be False Consciousness.
I'd prefer loading the ad up with lots more examples, rather than just relying on what some lawyer said a few years ago.
Still, maybe it will be effective. It's certainly accurate.
Blogger Charlie Eklund said...
I agree, Althouse, this is an effective ad. Effective enough for me to send the President $100..
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This. Though the "inquiry" has already been pretty kind to the coffers.
i.e. "This is how you get more Trump."
lol
honest? you think that is effective?
preaching to the choir is effective, how???
donald will be impeached
sunsong, LOL, you just another left-wing ideologue. It is effective because it shows that these corrupt, left-wing loons, ab initio, were never going to give the President-elect a chance.
Foregone conclusion, sunsong.
you watch the ad, you see Pencil-Neck's face, and you think:
...it lacks punch
None of this will make Hillary Clinton president. Ever. Forget it, sunsong.
Nice, clear message, Excellent visuals, Fact based, Easy to understand, Hard hitting.
Ad will be very effective.
I wonder what it’s impact will be?
So, we have a person who embraces Cruel Neutrality and says that she thinks the ad is effective. Let's ask her.
I don't think she already has drunk the kool aid, although she is skeptical of this impeachment effort. Does she think this ad would vaccinate her against reading about the impeachment witnesses or thinking for herself?
sunsong = aged flower child who gets a pension.
Amadeus 48 = aged capitalist who pays for sunsong's pension.
OK, boomer.
donald will be impeached
And then what, sunsong?
Then we have a fair and transparent trial in the Senate (hopefully) and the lies and machinations of the Democrats come out.
I don't know if you are dumb or just excessively hopeful, but there is neither crime nor evidence except in the fevered, delusional minds of leftists. Maybe that will be the smiling salts you whack jobs need.
I don't see how this is effective to anyone who isn't already buying the snake oil. <
I knew there were two Marks posting. Can't you distinguish yourself as "LeftyMark?"
I guess that makes this fool the “Evil Twin.”
donald will be impeached
It depends ion how strong the suicide impulse is in the left.
Mark Zaid's quote should be all over the MSM.
But it's not. Because the MSM is The Party.
sungsong is an old leftwing hipster dufus who ingests the big lie, and regurgitates the big lie.
Sad.
They really didn't think this through, and still refuse to do so. If they do vote out articles of impeachment, they're going to have to get a minimum of a dozen votes from Ds in districts that Trump won. Trump will campaign heavily in those districts, reminding the voters that Nancy and company explicitly ran on NOT impeaching Trump. Nancy runs a very serious risk of losing the gavel.
If it goes to the Senate, more Ds will vote to acquit than Rs will vote to remove. Again, red state dems - or even purple staters - are going to look at their careers and think "how did we get into this mess?" The red state dems will vote to acquit.
All the while, any remaining senators that are running for president are forced to sit silently for a month during prime campaigning season. Idiots.
Granted, there may be a pony mixed in with all this horseshit - somebody may come up with some genuinely damaging testimony - but there's no evidence of that it exists so far. They'll have to produce a smoking gun "plant some evidence on the cokehead" statement to change things.
Some of the commenters here seem to think an ad is effective only if it changes their mind. But the current thinking in both parties is that elections are usually won by motivating your own base, and that kind of "raw meat" messaging just about precludes converting people. So, yes, the ad is effective in that it accomplishes what it sets out to do.
Compare the whole impeachment kerfuffle for the last 3 years--same thing, it motivates the anti-Trump base and changes exactly zero minds. The benefit of Trump's approach is that it is only an ad, not war against half the country. Which is why for all his faults in style, Trump is far more of a patriot than the entire Democratic and MSM leadership in Washington and New York, who are, frankly, seditious.
The red state dems will vote to acquit.
I suspect that they do not want a trial and will offer Cocaine Mitch the sun, the moon and the stars to avoid a public spectacle.
Then again, the DNC/MSM party is desperate and pretty crazy. Their followers will believe what they are told, as evidenced on this blog. The question is whether there are enough moderate swing voters with open minds.
sunsong is just an ignorant cunt.
Upon Trump's election they told me it was an affront and mortal threat to our constitutional republic. They were correct, but had the threat backwards - it is them not Trump.
I was not pro Trump, simply anti-Hillary. I live in MA and so did not bother to vote for POTUS in 2016, it didn't matter to the result, and was my way of having a private tantrum or protest.
Having seen what the Democrats have done since Nov 2016, and learning of what the life-long government functionaries did during the campaign to attack and undermine Trump, I am now a full on, 100% Trump supporter.
This is an effective add for folks like me.
Having seen what the Democrats have done since Nov 2016, and learning of what the life-long government functionaries did during the campaign to attack and undermine Trump, I am now a full on, 100% Trump supporter.
This is an effective add for folks like me.
11/19/19, 3:10 PM
Me too. I just donated #100 as well.
"lol
[1] honest? you think that is effective?
[2] preaching to the choir is effective, how???
[3] donald will be impeached"
1... Yes.
2... it pushes back against the dismal tide disseminated by nearly all of the corporate media.
3... yes, as the Democrats control the House, the vote will be entirely along party lines.
It will end at that, for all intents and purposes.
Trump's is basically a money-raising operation.
readering: "Trump's is basically a money-raising operation."
Looks like the lunatic lefties have abandoned quid pro quo/Extortion/Bribery and have returned to the comfort of their emoluments stupidity.
Well, after literally claiming Trump is guilty of every single crime in the books emoluments is as good a resting place as any for the next set of transparently false accusations.
BTW, has readering every apologized for buying into the moronic hoax dossier/hoax collusion scam & Kavanaugh is a gang rapist?
I'm betting he/she/xe hasn't....
Remember when sunsong was telling us all how Trump was petrified of the Beto, then Biden then Warren campaigns?
LOLOLOLOL
I'm with Stevew. I was a very reluctant Trump voter. I expected to vote libertarian, as usual, but once at the poll station I made an impulsive decision to vote for Trump. Not the I supported him, but I wanted the Repubs and Dems are how many voters want immigration and "free trade" reform.
Now I'll crawl over broken glass to vote for Trump. I'll even hold my nose and vote for every Repub on the ballot, even the bible-thumpers, just to teach the Dems a lesson.
I'd prefer loading the ad up with lots more examples..
Me too, Tim. LOTS of possibilities first time they introduced articles of impeachment. Whoopi saying (6 days in IIRC) we still have impeachment*, throw in somelate night hosts, AOC and the other one of the gangster four "Impeach the MFer"...
I like that one because it sticks a pin into the Screeching Harpies, aka The View.
Donating $100 to Trump. More to follow.
$5 donation every time Schiff steps on his own dick.
Trump's is basically a money-raising operation.
A politician soliciting contributions for re-election? Why, I never!
I like the American Gothicesque frame of Nancy and Chuck. They are The Pitchfork.
I’m not sure the slot-machine spinning frames works. The first one was fine because it lands on Schiff. He’s the Joker. (AOC appears briefly as The Sexy Villain. But the Spinning Wheel becomes a bit annoying, even though the ad is very short.
This Ad has a lot of fun. Trump and Melania at the front of the Parade. Some Cartoon Villain Politicians and some “Resistance” Hooligans.
’$5 donation every time Schiff steps on his own dick.’
Nobody has that much money!! ;)
I dunno. The overly dramatic music. The same voice over used in 100s of other political ads sounding like he's telling you that God is about to come to your house to buttsmack you. At this point I think a political ad would have more impact if maybe they used the same imagery, but inserted the voice of Emo Philips, droning over some flowers-in-meadow-music.
Granted it would be weird. But I'm thinking it might be the kind of thing you cannot take your eyes away from. As is, I cannot watch anyone's political ads. And the more they play them, the more I hate the candidate who is paying for it.
Politico:
Speaker Nancy Pelosi and her top deputies are working to ease long-simmering anxiety among battleground freshmen, which has intensified amid fears that impeachment could creep into 2020 and make many of them one-term members.
If Politico is admitting this much, how bad is it?
Ahh... I see that mccullough had my initial take. Though I was going to say that Schumer and Pelosi together look like, American Deep-State Gothic.
OK, so I donated $100 presumably so Trump can run more ads. I would gladly donate much more to get Tom Steyer to run fewer ads.
The Dem counsel, Daniel Goldman, is a skilled, devious SOB. He's the type of prosecutor, who'd work for Mueller. Scrutinize every single detail, put you away for life over a trivial lie, or worse, tie you up in knots to manufacture the lie that puts you away for life. Dangerous dude.
...this may be damaging to Dems also:
FBI Interviews Alleged Boy Rape Victim of Bill Clinton; Chilling Details of Sex Assaults & Satanic Rituals on Yacht (Video) – True Pundit
https://truepundit.com/graphic-warning-fbi-interviews-alleged-boy-rape-victim-of-bill-clinton-chilling-details-of-sex-assaults-satanic-rituals-on-yacht-video/
A few thoughts from my friend Matthew:
“Watching impeachment hearings over the last week I am struck by similarity to so much in life: there are lots of people weak or worried about losing prestige to stand up for what is right, and then there are a few people with strength and courage to stand up for what is right.
At this moment, as an American who loves this country, can we all watch these hearings and not game out who is winning and losing and who benefits politically. This is a somber serious moment for our country. And can the media not look for microwave takes.”
~ Matthew Dowd
Did sunsong ever apologize for falsely claiming Kavanaugh was a gang rapist?
Im guessing not because admitting a lie of that magnitude would take courage.
or maybe clear the air by showing things like this
"How many times now has it happened that people - with great preening & indignation - posted something online about the moral evils of Trump's immigration detention centers, only to slink away when it turned out it was from Obama years? My favorite example:"
https://apnews.com/a98f26f7c9424b44b7fa927ea1acd4d4/AP-FACT-CHECK:-2014-photo-wrongly-used-to-hit-Trump-policies …
per @ggreenwald
Vindman fancies himself above the president.
Trump and Vindman have never met.
What a joke.
Trump sucks. His tax bill is ridiculous and it totally busted the budget. All these douche bag, lightweight judges. Enough already. And where's the GD wall?
When it comes down to it, the Dems are not that much different from the HK-crushing Red Chinese in their lust for power.
Who sent in the trolls?
THEOLDMAN
Laughable, all of them.
Which honest Democrat will fly the coup first?
I'll ask again next week.
It would be a lot more effective with a less melodramatic voiceover.
Background to the ad:
The FBI IG report of Strzok has been released and is at
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2019/11/19/fbi-releases-internal-opr-report-containing-details-of-peter-strzok-investigation/
Unlike many reports, this is a good read and only 27 pages long. It's especially good after you get to the part where the report lays out a long set of quoted texts between Strzok and Page showing the bias against Trump and how it worsened as Election Day approached and after. How Strzok and Page began to talk of preventing Trump from being President and then of bringing him down after. Then the report explains what Strzok was charged with, administratively, by the FBI; and how he defended himself; and how the FBI responded to that defense. The report states that Strzok "immeasurably harmed" the FBI by mishandling two crucial investigations - the Clinton e-mails and the Russian interference (the dossier was first investigated by Strzok) and it details how he mishandled them. It also points out that by doing nothing to investigate Wiener's laptop and the 675,000 thousand e-mails on it from September 28 to October 29, Strzok almost forced Comey into Comey's statement made very close to the election and thus Strzok by his misconduct may have affected an election outcome.
Then comes the punishment for immeasurably harming the FBI and messing with an election - a 60 day suspension and a demotion - clemency asked for and granted because it was first-time offense. My God, what if Benedict Arnold had thought of pleading his clean record and his single offense and been demoted to Colonel with a sixty day suspension?
It's pretty shocking what Strzok has gotten away with and it harms the FBI still more to read about it. But the report is still a great read - smooth, clear, quick. I think this is the influence of Bill Barr because I notice these qualities in what he says and writes.
"BTW, has readering every apologized for buying into the moronic hoax dossier/hoax collusion scam & Kavanaugh is a gang rapist?
"I'm betting he/she/xe hasn't...."
Don't take that bet. He/she/xe follows me like Rupert Pupkin and knows the answer. (Ps Nothing to apologize for.)
There's a lot of reluctant Trump 2016 voters here. I switched my registration from non-partisan to R so I could vote for Cruz in the Oregon primary.
To say I say was anti-Clinton is too kind. Without a complete examination, I think she is the worst, most corrupt candidate for president since at least since Aaron Burr, which is pretty much all of them. Most of Burr's transgressions were in his bitter loser phase, which is different.
But, faced with the binary choice, I was in for Trump. As I listened, I heard protect our southern border, renegotiate unfair trade deals, reduce regulations, and cut taxes, especially corporate taxes to bring us closer in line with the OECD average. Trump was anti-PC and supportively Christian.
By November, even though I knew he was a short-fingered vulgarian, I voted for him enthusiastically. I am not disappointed.
P.S. Now I'm a Democrat so I can support my socialist mayor for Congress in the primary. Which D leftist really represents urban Oregon? Just bring home some pork, I think.
“Then comes the punishment for immeasurably harming the FBI and messing with an election - a 60 day suspension and a demotion - clemency asked for and granted because it was first-time offense. My God, what if Benedict Arnold had thought of pleading his clean record and his single offense and been demoted to Colonel with a sixty day suspension? “
To be a bit more accurate, they also yanked Strzok’s security clearance, and he couldn’t go back to work until he had it reinstated. And that probably wasn’t going to happen, after repeatedly sending classified information using a commercial email ISP. He never did.
readering: "Don't take that bet. He/she/xe follows me like Rupert Pupkin and knows the answer. (Ps Nothing to apologize for.)"
LOL
As expected, you have not yet apologized for your hoax gang rape charges against Kavanaugh nor your russia collusion hoax /Hoax dossier lies.
I suppose no lies go too far as long as one is on Team Left.
chickelit: "Which honest Democrat will fly the coup first?
I'll ask again next week."
Well, since you used "honest" as a modifier you can exclude every lefty at Althouse.
It is depressing to think that the season of campaign commercials is almost upon us.
Mark Zaid made a tweet. Yeah, that's a real headline grabber.
They should get a different narrator to do the voiceover. I was waiting for the 800-number to call for a great gold-buying opportunity.
Come on, Drago: though Cook isn't a Democrat, he's definitely a lefty--and I've never seen him be dishonest. He is, of course, honestly deluded to a very profound degree, but that's a completely different thing. I'd sure be sad to see him depart from here...
Farmer,
"It is depressing to think that the season of campaign commercials is almost upon us"
It's only depressing in the abstract, if you're smart like me and literally never watch TV. (And I mean the terms 'literally' and 'never' literally here.) No cable, no antenna, nothin'. The only TV I ever see is a brief YouTube clip now and then when someone links to something and the thing seems compelling enough (and this amounts to "hardly ever", fwiw.)
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