Where I spend my summers, there is an island that you can’t see on a clear day, you can only see it when rain or fog obscure the shore beyond it. We call it “Kong Island.”
Snow like that in these parts would be heavy and wet, the air temperature would hover around freezing. These photos evoke memories of what that feels like.
Is this much snow common at this time of year in Madison?
Is this much snow common at this time of year in Madison? No. October 2019: Snowiest ever in Madison. 1917 also had two snow storms, like this month, but only maxed out at 5+ inches total. I'm not sure what our total is -- we had 3" on Tuesday, and at least that much today.
The Twin Cities had a hell of a blizzard on Halloween of 1991, right after the Twins won the World Series. It took weeks to clear the streets because of thick ice.
We're experiencing the same thing in N. central IL. We had a two-day rainfall event this past weekend, giving us 2.3" of rain. Yesterday was a rain, drizzle, snow thing all day, and today it's all snow. I'm seeing predictions of up to 6".
Most of the trees still had their foliage, and it was an exceptionally colorful year. We had over 6" of rain in Sept., so I'm assuming all the moisture played a part in the delay of the leaves changing.
We had a few frosts, no freezing, so many of the trees still had their foliage. I was still picking zinnias 2 days ago!
I pray for the farmers. We had 27 days of precip. in May, and the farmer finally planted the corn (on 2 sides of our property) on June 15th. There the corn sits, unharvested. Between the heavy rains, snow, and the 10-day forecast for cold temps, I fear that the crop will just rot in the field.
We did have a snow episode on Oct. 12th, and a large snowfall on Nov. 9th of last year.
As an avid gardener and garden journalist, I know that we've experienced some pretty crazy weather patterns in the past. This year I seem to be spending more time really watching what's going on around me. Our 3 yr old granddaughter, who finds joy in everything, and loves bugs, wants to be outside inspecting and smelling all the flowers,and catching bugs and looking at them with a magnifying glass. Her costume for Halloween is a spider.
I fear that the crop will just rot in the field. Our Gov Evers declared an energy emergency yesterday. If the farmers can get their corn in from the field -- and this snow will melt, and there will be mild days in November -- then a lot of propane will have to be used to dry it. When this happened last -- I think 2012? 2013? -- the overconsumption of propane by farmers drying corn in late fall/early winter led to severe propane shortages by the following January/February. My recollection is that an Energy Emergency relaxes cold-season restrictions on how much fuel can be transported (and when) by rail/truck.
Heavy rain in Ohio, taking the dog to the vet; It's the first rain my (2013) car has seen, so it's clean now, I guess. I never use the car so it happens it's never been out in the rain before. Heavy dust accumulation on top.
It's been out in snow but that just salts the bottom.
Looks an awful lot like the Schiff hearings. Couldn't see them, either. I have to say that had I been in the chamber today, I would have been booted out of the hearing for calling the Democrats out for their repeated lies. I found myself yelling "Bullshit!" at the television, repeatedly, whenever a Democrat spoke. Because it was.
@MadMan (8:45), I guess the snow's due to anthropogenic global climate change? Or does it have something to do with the lack of sunspot activity?
BTW, did you ever contact those international-class math professors I pointed you towards, so that your research can be mathematically as sound as possible?
"Incredible. I’ve heard of a white Xmas but never a white Halloween."
I saw snow in Atlanta, Georgia on Halloween in 1993- it didn't stick since the temperature was in in the upper 30s at the time.
In 2011, I was in CT during the Halloween blizzard- we got about 6 inches of heavy wet snow, and since the trees still had most of their leaves, the wet snow brought down thousands of trees and large branches that knocked out power over most of the state, and it wasn't fully restored for over a week.
Here in Oak Ridge, TN, it is 70 degrees right now with big thunderstorms, but we are expected to end with possible snow flurries sometime tonight or early tomorrow morning.
Drove from Madison to Green Bay area this morning. We were OK but saw some slideoffs, including a semi near Oshkosh that lay over on a ditch and lost one of the wheel trucks from the trailer. Be careful out there.
here in Iowa, it's not that unusual to get snow in October (sometimes, even more than flurries!)
But, it was Snowing this morning; It was Snowing Yesterday; and It was Snowing on Tuesday. Cedar Rapids got 4 inches yesterday. It was 18 degrees in Fayette county on Tues, and it was 21 here this morning. This is not normal; WHERE'S OUR GLOBAL WARMNING???
did you vote for Trump the first time around? Do you plan to vote for him in 2020? I Voted AGAINST Hillary in 2016; I'll be Voting FOR Trump in 2020 I've yet to be able to Imagine someone actually voting for Trump, and not doing it again. (I CAN imagine some Life Long Liberal, SAYING that they voted for Trump, but won't again.... But, i am pretty sure that our Poor Chuck was LYING when he said that)
"A former Clinton adviser says that should Joe Biden drop out of the race, Hillary Clinton will run for president again because 'she feels that God put her on the Earth to do it.’”
Yes, Biden is the Clinton machine's toehold on graft.
Really different weather this year (NE California) than usual. Normally we would have had some rain and snow by now. But it is dry dry dry and abnormally warm in the afternoons.
We have our normal cold evenings and mornings....12 degrees today but a wide temperature swing in the afternoons hitting mid 60's and even low 70's. 50 to 60 degree swing. The warm temperatures in the afternoon are just a trick. A pleasant temperature to sit outside and enjoy the cloudless sunshiny day. But still not good in reality. The dry and cold is dangerous with the winds. The wind is strongly coming from the E and NE too.
PG&E is wise to be cutting off the power in these dry windy temps. California needs to stop whining about it :-) You made this mess by stopping logging and sane forest management.
The Maple trees are the last ones to be dropping their leaves. Right now it is an ocean of bright yellow on the ground. Since we can't burn the leaves this year we are rounding them into piles. Putting some for mulch on various planting areas and around the trees. Then using the tractor bucket. Putting them into the hydraulic dump trailer and taking them to some ranchers who want mulch on their fields where they have no trees. The rest, dumping them over the embankment to the river. Mulch that !!!!
If we don't get some snow for ground cover soon, when it gets REALLY cold.....-10 at night and low 30's in the day, permafrost is going to be breaking pipes and pumps. Absentee owners from the Bay Area and SoCal never seem to understand that water freezes at 32 and we are in the MOUNTAINS up here. Ah well.....can't maintain the world.
The joke here in Denver is that you always plan your kids' halloween costumes to be worn with/over a winter jacket. The first big snow or at least cold snap, seems to coincide with the holiday pretty frequently.
For the last six months or so I have been predicting the coming of a new ice age (with tongue in cheek a bit) based upon the observed lack of sunspots that historically ( there is a lot of history) have indicated the cooling of earth. Maybe we are actually in for a new ice age! Certainly Ann's photos in October might indicate that. Today I noted to my wife that the temperatures that we have this week did not arrive until almost two weeks later last year. Now I am willing to concede that this is weather not climate, but if it keeps up it might be climate.
I have friends that live in Waukesha. He's now retired and they are building a home in NC; preferring 6 weeks of hurricane season to 5 months of winter. One of the reasons that I prefer the NW is that you can drive to snow, if you like it.
For the last six months or so I have been predicting the coming of a new ice age (with tongue in cheek a bit) based upon the observed lack of sunspots that historically ( there is a lot of history) have indicated the cooling of earth. Maybe we are actually in for a new ice age!
This post displays a common misunderstanding, or ignorance, of our planet's history. One that is responsible for much of the current hysteria over the climate.
The Earth is in an ice age right now!
The Earth has been in an ice age called the Quarternary for the last 2.5 million years. About 12,000 years ago, the Earth began to warm as we entered an interglacial called the Holocene. There are indications that the Holocene is ending, and that the Earth is about to get much colder again.
All of human existence has occurred during an ice age, and all of human civilization and history has occurred during an interglacial.
Brittanica alo describes the Quaternary as: Quaternary, in the geologic history of Earth, a unit of time within the Cenozoic Era, beginning 2,588,000 years ago and continuing to the present day. The Quaternary has been characterized by several periods of glaciation (the “ice ages” of common lore)... So it would appear that my tongue in cheek welcoming off a "new ice age" is not far off.
Worst case (other than glaciation) would be if we experienced climate such as that of the Maunder Minimum.
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Where I spend my summers, there is an island that you can’t see on a clear day, you can only see it when rain or fog obscure the shore beyond it. We call it “Kong Island.”
The week of Halloween is when Fall usually starts around here. Right on cue the winds have started and the temperature dropped.
This weather sucks.
Snow like that in these parts would be heavy and wet, the air temperature would hover around freezing. These photos evoke memories of what that feels like.
Is this much snow common at this time of year in Madison?
For us, trick or treating comes over 30 hours into a 40-hour rain.
I'd rather have snow.
Incredible. I’ve heard of a white Xmas but never a white Halloween.
Kay said...
Incredible. I’ve heard of a white Xmas but never a white Halloween.
10/31/19, 8:37 AM
And now my SO is telling me that it’s much more common than I ever thought.
Is this much snow common at this time of year in Madison?
No. October 2019: Snowiest ever in Madison. 1917 also had two snow storms, like this month, but only maxed out at 5+ inches total. I'm not sure what our total is -- we had 3" on Tuesday, and at least that much today.
The Twin Cities had a hell of a blizzard on Halloween of 1991, right after the Twins won the World Series. It took weeks to clear the streets because of thick ice.
1991 was Minnesota's legendary Halloween snowstorm. 2 feet, plus another foot or so the next day. My first winter in MN.
We're experiencing the same thing in N. central IL. We had a two-day rainfall event this past weekend, giving us 2.3" of rain. Yesterday was a rain, drizzle, snow thing all day, and today it's all snow. I'm seeing predictions of up to 6".
Most of the trees still had their foliage, and it was an exceptionally colorful year. We had over 6" of rain in Sept., so I'm assuming all the moisture played a part in the delay of the leaves changing.
We had a few frosts, no freezing, so many of the trees still had their foliage. I was still picking zinnias 2 days ago!
I pray for the farmers. We had 27 days of precip. in May, and the farmer finally planted the corn (on 2 sides of our property) on June 15th. There the corn sits, unharvested. Between the heavy rains, snow, and the 10-day forecast for cold temps, I fear that the crop will just rot in the field.
Grand solar minimum approaching.
We did have a snow episode on Oct. 12th, and a large snowfall on Nov. 9th of last year.
As an avid gardener and garden journalist, I know that we've experienced some pretty crazy weather patterns in the past. This year I seem to be spending more time really watching what's going on around me. Our 3 yr old granddaughter, who finds joy in everything, and loves bugs, wants to be outside inspecting and smelling all the flowers,and catching bugs and looking at them with a magnifying glass. Her costume for Halloween is a spider.
Hank Snow, "Wreck Of The Old 97", great song but Boxcar Willie's version is better.
Mancini, "Frosty The Snowman" and Zappa, "Dont Eat Yellow Snow" are exercises left to the reader.
I fear that the crop will just rot in the field.
Our Gov Evers declared an energy emergency yesterday. If the farmers can get their corn in from the field -- and this snow will melt, and there will be mild days in November -- then a lot of propane will have to be used to dry it. When this happened last -- I think 2012? 2013? -- the overconsumption of propane by farmers drying corn in late fall/early winter led to severe propane shortages by the following January/February.
My recollection is that an Energy Emergency relaxes cold-season restrictions on how much fuel can be transported (and when) by rail/truck.
Heavy rain in Ohio, taking the dog to the vet; It's the first rain my (2013) car has seen, so it's clean now, I guess. I never use the car so it happens it's never been out in the rain before. Heavy dust accumulation on top.
It's been out in snow but that just salts the bottom.
Looks an awful lot like the Schiff hearings. Couldn't see them, either. I have to say that had I been in the chamber today, I would have been booted out of the hearing for calling the Democrats out for their repeated lies. I found myself yelling "Bullshit!" at the television, repeatedly, whenever a Democrat spoke. Because it was.
Put Conan the hero dog on the $20 bill.
@MadMan (8:45), I guess the snow's due to anthropogenic global climate change? Or does it have something to do with the lack of sunspot activity?
BTW, did you ever contact those international-class math professors I pointed you towards, so that your research can be mathematically as sound as possible?
Did the groundhog foresee this?
"Incredible. I’ve heard of a white Xmas but never a white Halloween."
I saw snow in Atlanta, Georgia on Halloween in 1993- it didn't stick since the temperature was in in the upper 30s at the time.
In 2011, I was in CT during the Halloween blizzard- we got about 6 inches of heavy wet snow, and since the trees still had most of their leaves, the wet snow brought down thousands of trees and large branches that knocked out power over most of the state, and it wasn't fully restored for over a week.
Here in Oak Ridge, TN, it is 70 degrees right now with big thunderstorms, but we are expected to end with possible snow flurries sometime tonight or early tomorrow morning.
Drove from Madison to Green Bay area this morning. We were OK but saw some slideoffs, including a semi near Oshkosh that lay over on a ditch and lost one of the wheel trucks from the trailer. Be careful out there.
Professor Althouse,
May I suggest a poll?
I've been asking people, did you vote for Trump the first time around? Do you plan to vote for him in 2020?
I've been surprised at how many people I know who did NOT vote for him in 2016 but plan to vote for him in 2020.
I don't know anyone who voted for him in 2016 who plans to vote against him in 2020.
here in Iowa, it's not that unusual to get snow in October (sometimes, even more than flurries!)
But, it was Snowing this morning; It was Snowing Yesterday; and It was Snowing on Tuesday. Cedar Rapids got 4 inches yesterday. It was 18 degrees in Fayette county on Tues, and it was 21 here this morning. This is not normal; WHERE'S OUR GLOBAL WARMNING???
did you vote for Trump the first time around? Do you plan to vote for him in 2020?
I Voted AGAINST Hillary in 2016; I'll be Voting FOR Trump in 2020
I've yet to be able to Imagine someone actually voting for Trump, and not doing it again.
(I CAN imagine some Life Long Liberal, SAYING that they voted for Trump, but won't again.... But, i am pretty sure that our Poor Chuck was LYING when he said that)
"A former Clinton adviser says that should Joe Biden drop out of the race, Hillary Clinton will run for president again because 'she feels that God put her on the Earth to do it.’”
Yes, Biden is the Clinton machine's toehold on graft.
Whenever cold air goes south, warm air somewhere else goes north. It's nature's way to avoid having air pile up.
Really different weather this year (NE California) than usual. Normally we would have had some rain and snow by now. But it is dry dry dry and abnormally warm in the afternoons.
We have our normal cold evenings and mornings....12 degrees today but a wide temperature swing in the afternoons hitting mid 60's and even low 70's. 50 to 60 degree swing. The warm temperatures in the afternoon are just a trick. A pleasant temperature to sit outside and enjoy the cloudless sunshiny day. But still not good in reality. The dry and cold is dangerous with the winds. The wind is strongly coming from the E and NE too.
PG&E is wise to be cutting off the power in these dry windy temps. California needs to stop whining about it :-) You made this mess by stopping logging and sane forest management.
The Maple trees are the last ones to be dropping their leaves. Right now it is an ocean of bright yellow on the ground. Since we can't burn the leaves this year we are rounding them into piles. Putting some for mulch on various planting areas and around the trees. Then using the tractor bucket. Putting them into the hydraulic dump trailer and taking them to some ranchers who want mulch on their fields where they have no trees. The rest, dumping them over the embankment to the river. Mulch that !!!!
If we don't get some snow for ground cover soon, when it gets REALLY cold.....-10 at night and low 30's in the day, permafrost is going to be breaking pipes and pumps. Absentee owners from the Bay Area and SoCal never seem to understand that water freezes at 32 and we are in the MOUNTAINS up here. Ah well.....can't maintain the world.
The joke here in Denver is that you always plan your kids' halloween costumes to be worn with/over a winter jacket. The first big snow or at least cold snap, seems to coincide with the holiday pretty frequently.
This is not normal; WHERE'S OUR GLOBAL WARMNING???
Iowa is not the World. (Link)
First it was the endless rat drawings. Now it's endless sunrise pics. Ugh.
Watch out Florida Panhandle. The midwestern Snow Birds are on the move.
For the last six months or so I have been predicting the coming of a new ice age (with tongue in cheek a bit) based upon the observed lack of sunspots that historically ( there is a lot of history) have indicated the cooling of earth. Maybe we are actually in for a new ice age! Certainly Ann's photos in October might indicate that. Today I noted to my wife that the temperatures that we have this week did not arrive until almost two weeks later last year. Now I am willing to concede that this is weather not climate, but if it keeps up it might be climate.
I have friends that live in Waukesha. He's now retired and they are building a home in NC; preferring 6 weeks of hurricane season to 5 months of winter.
One of the reasons that I prefer the NW is that you can drive to snow, if you like it.
"One of the reasons that I prefer the NW is that you can drive to snow, if you like it."
It's not the same.
'she feels that God put her on the Earth to do it.’
No expert on this God that she mentions, but my understanding is that that is NOT how he/it works.
For the last six months or so I have been predicting the coming of a new ice age (with tongue in cheek a bit) based upon the observed lack of sunspots that historically ( there is a lot of history) have indicated the cooling of earth. Maybe we are actually in for a new ice age!
This post displays a common misunderstanding, or ignorance, of our planet's history. One that is responsible for much of the current hysteria over the climate.
The Earth is in an ice age right now!
The Earth has been in an ice age called the Quarternary for the last 2.5 million years. About 12,000 years ago, the Earth began to warm as we entered an interglacial called the Holocene. There are indications that the Holocene is ending, and that the Earth is about to get much colder again.
All of human existence has occurred during an ice age, and all of human civilization and history has occurred during an interglacial.
@Gahrie Maybe what you say is so. You haven't convinced the rabid climate nuts, though. A little snow and ice - a practical demonstration as it were - might be more convincing that we are in for a cooling earth. Here's a current warning dated today about a MINI-ice age from NASA confirm some of the other articles I have read The way I read this piece from the Encyclopedia Brittanica is that the Holocene is the "interglacial period" in which we are currently living. Link.
Brittanica alo describes the Quaternary as: Quaternary, in the geologic history of Earth, a unit of time within the Cenozoic Era, beginning 2,588,000 years ago and continuing to the present day. The Quaternary has been characterized by several periods of glaciation (the “ice ages” of common lore)... So it would appear that my tongue in cheek welcoming off a "new ice age" is not far off.
Worst case (other than glaciation) would be if we experienced climate such as that of the Maunder Minimum.
It's 80, windy, and humid here, and I stupidly left the windows open too long and the house is stuffy.
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