April 15, 2019

Notre Dame on fire.







ADDED: BBC: "The cause is not yet clear, but officials say that it could be linked to renovation work.... Last year, the Catholic Church in France appealed for funds to save the building, which was crumbling. A spokesman for the cathedral said the whole structure was 'burning.' 'There will be nothing left,' he said."

AND: AP:
France’s civil security agency says “all means” except for water-dropping aircraft were deployed to tackle the blaze. The defense agency said those were unsuitable for fires like the one at Notre Dame because dumping water on the building could cause the whole structure to collapse....
Earlier Trump had tweeted, "Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out," so that answers that.
A Notre Dame spokesman said earlier that the church’s entire wooden interior was in flames....

On Thursday, 16 religious statues were removed from the peak for the first time in over a century to be taken for cleaning and therefore escaped the blaze.
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Rick loves Inga said...

I’m so obsessed with Inga I try to lure her into verbal intercourse. I like it when it gets rough. I beg her to spank me after I say naughty things about her.

wildswan said...

Except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it: except the Lord keep the city, the watchman waketh but in vain.

dustbunny said...

The first photo of the burning spire looks like a Turner painting,

tcrosse said...

That spire was a nineteenth century recreation of the original, which had been removed due to wind damage.

Anonymous said...

Coincidental that all of the religious statues were taken out to be cleaned for the first time in 100 years just before this fire, on Thursday?

Dave said...

All this "rush to judgement" crap ignores the fact that if ISIS didn't do it, they sure wished they'd done it.

Michael McNeil said...

Did you all also jump to the conclusion that a Muslim burned down the three churches in the South a month or so ago? Because, shockingly, a white man did it. I'm sure you all condemned white men for those actions and then jumped to the conclusion that this fire was also set by a white man.

As it happens, just a week ago Ann Althouse's son, John Cohen Althouse posted a piece on Facebook, quoting from John McWhorter's (2000) book Losing the Race: Self-Sabotage in Black America. I'll repeat Althouse's excerpt (slightly expanded), as being fully pertinent in this context (quoting…):

Article of Faith Number Three: There Is an Epidemic of Racist Arson of Black Churches
Between January 1995 and June 1996, thirty-four black churches were burned. Since then, it has become common wisdom in black America that these burnings are part of an imminent return to the naked white persecution of blacks in the past. The burnings were seen as reminiscent of the burning of the 16th Street Baptist Church in Birmingham in 1963 in which four black girls were killed; by 1997, Spike Lee had filmed a wrenching documentary about this earlier tragedy (Four Little Girls).

The burning of a church is an unspeakable evil. However, the idea that there is an epidemic of black church burnings is, like the 61 percent figure, pure fiction. From 1990 to 1996, about eighty black churches were burned. During the same period, however, over seven times that many white churches were burned every year. Thus during a typical year, six hundred white churches burned [!] while only about fifteen black churches did.

In other words, there is a regrettable practice afoot in America of setting fires to churches, period. Because black people live in America we certainly would not expect such an epidemic to mysteriously bypass black people entirely — however, the epidemic has no racist source.

Furthermore, investigators have been able to turn up no racist motivations for these burnings, and church burnings in general have been decreasing steadily since the 1980s. Finally, in South Carolina, eighteen arsonists have been apprehended, and of these, eight are black.

Victimology, however, has ensured that the black community heard only the initial misleading report without the figures for white churches.

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Mr. Groovington said...

Blogger Michael K said...
If you want an alternative religious structure, I would suggest Sainte Chapelle basilica, which was completed in 1248 and is more beautiful than Notre Dame. The Notre Dame fame really began with Victor Hugo and his novel. It was completed in 1260 so Sainte Chapelle is even older.

Yes, Sainte Chapelle is more beautiful. The “jewel box”. When I first saw it 15 years ago I was sure I hadn’t seen a more beautiful building and feel that way today.

tim in vermont said...

Did you all also jump to the conclusion that a Muslim burned down the three churches in the South a month or so ago?

If, as has happened with this cathedral, Muslims had been caught, prosecuted, and convicted of trying to burn them down, then yeah, the thought would cross my mind.

tim in vermont said...

I’m so obsessed with Inga that I can’t stop by any thread without mentioning her.

Don’t even get me started on Chuck.... I just imagine his jowly kind of handsomeness, wearing a flat cap and plus four in the manliest kind of way, broad shoulders and bear-like hairy back, yet still swinging those golf clubs with a cat like grace. Rrrowww!

tim in vermont said...

plus fours, darn it!

Paco Wové said...

I see Althouse's moderation-for-civility policy has crashed to the ground in flames.

tim in vermont said...

That wasn’t aimed at Chuck, it was aimed at the people obsessed with Chuck. I am happy he posts here.

rwnutjob said...

For we know that if our earthly house of this tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.
Corinthians 5:1

mockturtle said...

Coincidental that all of the religious statues were taken out to be cleaned for the first time in 100 years just before this fire, on Thursday?

Not to a reasonably able detective. Was there an insurance policy?

Michael McNeil said...

I'm happy folks are giving Chuck pretty strong pushback here. He's not participating here in good faith.

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