February 15, 2019

"When I came into office, I met right there in the Oval Office with President Obama. And I sat in those beautiful chairs."

Said Trump — WaPo transcript — who seemed to be flying high at the end of his Q&A session after his speech today.
And we talked. It was supposed to be 15 minutes. As you know, it ended up being many times longer than that. And I said, "What's the biggest problem?" He said, "By far, North Korea." And I don't want to speak for him. But I believe he would have gone to war with North Korea. I think he was ready to go to war. In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea.

Now, where are we now? No missiles, no rockets, no nuclear testing. We've learned a lot. But much more importantly than all of it, much more important -- much, much more important than that -- is we have a great relationship. I have a very good relationship with Kim Jong-un. And I've done a job.

In fact, I think I can say this: Prime Minister Abe of Japan gave me the most beautiful copy of a letter that he sent to the people who give out a thing called the Nobel Prize. He said, "I have nominated you, or, respectfully, on behalf of Japan, I am asking them to give you the Nobel Peace Prize." I said, "Thank you." Many other people feel that way, too. I'll probably never get it.

But that's OK. They gave it to Obama. He didn't even know what he got it for. He was there for about 15 seconds and he got the Nobel Prize. He said, "Oh, what did I get it for?" With me, I probably will never get it.

But if you look at Idlib Province in Syria, I stopped the slaughter of perhaps 3 million people. Nobody talks about that.... We do a lot of good work. This administration does a tremendous job and we don’t get credit for it.... So, Prime Minister Abe came here -- I mean, it was the most beautiful... five-page letter. Nobel Prize. He sent it to them. You know why? Because he had rocket ships and he had missiles flying over Japan. And they had alarms going off -- you know that. Now, all of a sudden, they feel good. They feel safe. I did that.

And it was a very tough dialogue at the beginning. Fire and fury. Total annihilation. “My button is bigger than yours” and “My button works.” Remember that? You don’t remember that. And people said, "Trump is crazy." And you know what it ended up being? A very good relationship. I like [Kim Jong-Un] a lot and he likes me a lot. Nobody else would have done that. The Obama administration couldn’t have done it. Number one, they probably wouldn’t have done it. And number two, they didn’t have the capability to do it.
At that point, he suddenly wrapped up — "So I just want to thank everybody. I want to wish our new attorney general great luck and speed and enjoy your life." Enjoy your life? I had the feeling that someone he trusted was flagging him down — Too high, you're flying too high, bring it in for a landing — and he did.

Trump said, "I don't want to speak for" Obama, then told us Obama told him he was "so close to starting a big war with North Korea." Obama was going to start a war? A nuclear war? And Trump doesn't think he should tell, but he immediately tells. Wild.

The man (Trump) is so high on himself. It seems that he was pumping himself higher and higher. He seems liberated by the belief that the Nobel people will never give him their prize, so he'll simply declaim his deservingness... and denounce Obama's.

123 comments:

Dust Bunny Queen said...

He didn't "speak for" Obama. Trump said: But I believe he would have gone to war with North Korea. I think he was ready to go to war. In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea.

Believing and thinking something about someone says more about yourself than the other person. What you believe and think is based on your own conclusions.

If Obama actually told Trump that he was close to war, then that is relevant information.

Sometimes Trump really does talk too much :-)

As a sales person or "deal maker" you would think that he would have learned that skill. SHUT UP. It is very hard. When to STFU and let the other person put their foot in their mouth. In a sales pitch....you shut up and the purchaser will inevitably talk themselves more into the deal. People tend to hate silent moments and will fill it with blather.

RigelDog said...

ACK!!! I approve of most of Trump's initiatives and have even come to understand how his brazen style can be effective in some situations, but this is just...ACK! You don't put our business out there for the world to see (i.e., if Obama really did anticipate war with N. Korea, it's reckless to broadcast that). The fact that this blabbering is centered around self-promotion is just more ACK!

mockturtle said...

Trump may be 'high on himself' but not nearly to the extent Obama is. Trump just doesn't bother with false modesty.

Gk1 said...

I think Trump has been successful in foreign policy in ways Obama and the Bush family could only dream about. It's undeniable in Korea and in Asia with the Chinese back on their heels. I'm beginning to wonder what the fuck the State Department is good for? All of their advice was counter to what Trump did to bring North Korea to the negotiating table. What are we paying these people for? (Other than backstabbing Trump at every opportunity and selling out our country at every turn)

Nonapod said...

When Trump gets on a roll, it's like he goes into almost a weird fugue state where he fixates on words and themes, and he becomes unguarded in what he says or how he says it. You get a window into what he's (most likely) really feeling about an issue, but it also gives plenty of room for his enemies to misinterpret or misunderstand (often intentionally) what he said.

Dave Begley said...

By 6 pm EST Obama will deny he was going to start a war with the Norks.

Ann Althouse said...

"He didn't "speak for" Obama. Trump said: But I believe he would have gone to war with North Korea. I think he was ready to go to war. In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea."

Look where you cut off. Here's the next sentence: "In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea."

Play fair or lose credibility.

BarrySanders20 said...

Trump's side will say he's giving his opposition 25th amendment ammo so they can shoot themselves in the foot like that crazy racist mountain lion who attacked the Covington boys with a MAGA hat.

Bay Area Guy said...

Some people are good on paper, but poor in person.

Some people are poor on paper, but are charming in person.

Very few people are good on paper, and good in person.

When you read a Trump transcript, he is all over the map.

And, yet, when you watch him in person, he's pretty darn good.

Clinton (Bill, not Hillary) was like that too. A great bullshitter.

BarrySanders20 said...

And they might just be right!

JohnAnnArbor said...

Trump just doesn't bother with false modesty.

He's a political Frank Lloyd Wright?"

Jim at said...

He pisses off all the right people. And that's good enough for me.

FIDO said...

Obama's Medal was a joke when he got it, a joke when he had it, and in retrospect, an affront to the very purpose of the medal.

So Trump described reality. It has always been a punchline

rhhardin said...

The Pope is the most humble man in the world.

Freder Frederson said...

And I bet Abe's office puts out a statement that he never nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

What a freaking liar!

Wince said...

Said Trump — WaPo transcript — who seemed to be flying high at the end of his Q&A session after his speech today.

"So I just want to thank everybody. I want to wish our new attorney general great luck and speed and enjoy your life."


Trump seems to know he will soon be drinking his enemies' tears.

dwick said...

After nearly 3 years, I've learned to take Althouse's analyses of anything Trump says or does literally but not seriously...

FullMoon said...


Blogger Freder Frederson said...

And I bet Abe's office puts out a statement that he never nominated Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize.

What a freaking liar!


Well, I don't know enough about Abe to judge his veracity. But , going from your commenting history, not sure I can agree he is a freaking liar.

Bay Area Guy said...

I could not stand Obama in person. Perhaps, it was me, because many folks seemed to love him.

He reminded me of really smart attorney, who was articulate, confident, and self-assured, but had never actually tried a case.

WintersTale said...

That was a press conference for the 25th Amendment.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

Look, Obama's Nobel Peace Prize was given solely because he was Not Bush. (I am also Not Bush. Where's my Peace Prize?) Seriously, he hadn't actually done anything yet, but he was Not Bush and that was sufficient.

FullMoon said...

Said Trump — WaPo transcript — who seemed to be flying high at the end of his Q&A session after his speech today.

Maybe he is flying high with relief about finally pulling the trigger on the wall deal. Whether for good or bad, he made the decision.

Feel the same way myself sometimes about things others might consider less important, like, tile, or granite?




gilbar said...

Greatest President EVER!

David Begley said...

Bay:

He never did try a case!

I would have had some respect for Barack if he did some evictions, collections and divorces. He went straight to teaching and politicing.

Jupiter said...

RigelDog said...

"... if Obama really did anticipate war with N. Korea, it's reckless to broadcast that".

Oh? Why? If you mean, it's reckless to release that information without first considering its possible impact, well, who says that happened?

I have to say, it's the very first thing I ever heard about Barack Obama that made me think better of him.

Qwinn said...

Ann, DBQ didn't cut anything off. The part you're complaining she cut off is actually in your cut and paste of her quote. And she addressed that part, in detail.

JohnAnnArbor said...

Obama gave billions of dollars in small bills to Iran for nothing more than a promise to be good--in one area of weapons development, and nothing else. With no credible verification of that one area.

Pretty much anything Trump could do would be better than THAT.

B Sharpe said...

I really enjoy the Trump "stream of consciousness". My brain sorta works the same way, but over the years my mouth has learned not to say everything I'm thinking. People might be offended, you know. Once you understand the Trump modus operandi, and if you're a fan, it's simple to peel away the extraneous and get to his point. In this case: the world is safer because of my policies / approach. North Korea and Syria are two examples. That's all I read.

David Begley said...

Minor correction. Obama worked as an associate and of counsel while he was a lecturer at the University of Chicago. I doubt he tried a case. Probably wrote briefs.

"He joined Davis, Miner, Barnhill & Galland, a 13-attorney law firm specializing in civil rights litigation and neighborhood economic development, where he was an associate for three years from 1993 to 1996, then of counsel from 1996 to 2004. In 1994, he was listed as one of the lawyers in Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 94 C 4094 (N.D. Ill.). This class action lawsuit was filed in 1994 with Selma Buycks-Roberson as lead plaintiff and alleged that Citibank Federal Savings Bank had engaged in practices forbidden under the Equal Credit Opportunity Act and the Fair Housing Act. The case was settled out of court."

Two-eyed Jack said...

If you had to choose a billionaire to be our next president, who would it be?
Which one shows the proper degree of modesty and circumspection?
Bezos? Gates? Bloomberg? Schultz? Oprah?

MikeR said...

Did not say, or imply, that Mr. Obama would have started a _nuclear_ war.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea.”

What a lying sack of shit Trump is.

gilbar said...

Dear Professor Althouse
i'm not sure that my reporting what you said to me is the thing as my speaking for you

to me, speaking for someone is putting words into their mouth; being their representative and answering questions for them. Reporting what someone said to you is witnessing? Isn't it?

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“He pisses off all the right people. And that's good enough for me.”

The politics of spite. People who think like this are incredibly stupid. One hears this refrain every time Trump messes up big time.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Ann, DBQ didn't cut anything off. The part you're complaining she cut off is actually in your cut and paste of her quote. And she addressed that part, in detail.”

Yes, she did cut off her “explanation” before that sentence. If she had included that last sentence she couldn’t have made the erroneous comment she did.

M Jordan said...

Ann, I don’t think you get Trump. Can’t you see the twinkle in his eye? Can’t you separate the real man from the barker? He is the most transparent man in the world right now but nobody can see it. Some see 4D chess going on. Nope. Some see a simpleton, a buffoon. Nope.

He’s an entertainer with simple, clear goals. He’s highly competitive and equally highly driven. He’s a winner and, sometimes, a loser. He’s transparent except when he’s opaque. He’s joking except when he isn’t. He’s WWE.

Okay, he is a bit complicated. But I get him. Usually.

stevew said...

Which prominent politicians aren't similarly full of themselves? It's a job qualification, you couldn't do the job without it, you certainly wouldn't seek it, especially with the 24/7 watching and criticism.

Molly said...

(eaglebeak)

I like the fact that Trump says what he thinks--or thinks at the moment he's saying it, at least. Why shouldn't he toot his own horn? Everyone else in the world is attacking him incessantly--somebody has to tell Americans what he's doing, and by God, he'll do it himself.

Also--does anyone think he betrayed Obama's confidences? Tosh. Obama (and Michelle), Clintons (both), Bushes (all of 'em) and all the media clods who buzz around them, attack Trump as an imbecilic traitor all day long (when their minions are not holding extensive meetings to 25th Amendment him).

If you're looking for Bad Presidential Behavior, I offer you the Obamas, the Clintons, and the Bushes.

If you merely note that Trump Is Different--that's for sure.

madAsHell said...

Play fair or lose credibility.

Don't jump to conclusions.

Skeptical Voter said...

Inga two people were supposedly in a room talking. One reports what the other said or allegedly said. Before you call the reporter "a lying sack shit", let me know that you were a third set of eyes and ears in the room. It's safe to say you weren't there.


Now as for whether King Jon Un and Obama were ready to go to war with each other, I'll simply observe that weakness invites aggression. And after Obama had shipped a plane load of Benjamins to Iran, Kim Jong Un could well have thought that Obama had just hung a big "Kick Me" sign on his backside.


As for the politics of spite? They've been on display in the Democrat party ever since 0400 on the day after the 2016 election. Hillary led the initial assault with her claim "The Russkis did it."


I'm not a big Trump fan---but I am even less enchanted with the Democrat demagoguery on florid display for the last 27 months.

Jim at said...

The politics of spite. People who think like this are incredibly stupid.

You live, breath and ooze the politics of spite out of every orifice in your body. It's all you have.

Don't like it shoved back into your face? Tough shit.

jnseward said...

Stupid me. To me it sounded like every single thing he said was absolutely true, and if he didn't mention it, it's for damn sure nobody else would.

narciso said...

the miniaturized warheads and the Ukrainian sourced boosters, were ready around 2013, yet not much attention was paid at the time, well we had snowden cleaning out the nsa, and miss witt doing everything else, (a story covered with a pillow)

Alex said...

Trump had no good answer to Jim Acosta on lower crime rates of illegals. He simply denied the statistics. Not good! CNN looks like the hero and Trump like a racist to millennial college women who are the new HERO voters.

narciso said...

what I do remember is around 2009, Obama did target james rosen, for gathering info about the incoming brief set of sanctions, after having pledged to meet with the elder kim, also there was some kerfluffle over sony allegedly attributed to north korea,

Chuck said...

Althouse said...
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Trump said, "I don't want to speak for" Obama, then told us Obama told him he was "so close to starting a big war with North Korea." Obama was going to start a war? A nuclear war? And Trump doesn't think he should tell, but he immediately tells. Wild.
...


"Wild" is one word for it. It wouldn't be my word for it.

Based on Trump's reporting of it, he never really said "shithole countries" in that same office, and his Supreme Court nominee Judge Gorsuch didn't say that it was "disheartening" and "demoralizing" that Trump had disparaged several federal judges.

That, and a hundred other things make Trump a shitty reporter of fact. Trump is the worst reporter of fact in American civic life. So now, I want to hear from Obama. And I want to know if there was any independent record -- other witnesses, recordings, note-takers -- of what was really said between them. But I don't know if Obama will indulge my preference in that regard. The Trump thing is to go back and forth. Wrestling with a pig, you get dirty. The presidential thing might be for Obama to ignore it.

This is why Trump cannot be allowed to do anything without question. He must be nailed down, on every statement, every pronouncement, every offer, every negotiation. He needs to be forced onto the record, and be made to be specific. Everything he does, and says, must be investigated. He should be cross-examined at every opportunity.

Wild. Or, wildly false and fraudulent.

Sebastian said...

"The man (Trump) is so high on himself."

As he should be. His victory was amazing, achieved on a shoe string, and his successes are amazing, achieved against near-monolithic deep-state and MSM opposition.

The bullshitter-in-chef is also the most honest man in American politics.

Sebastian said...

Chuck: leave. You are not welcome here. Go. Do not pollute this blog any longer.

Dave said...

Yesterday Chuck was repeating Nancy Pelosi's exact talking points near word for word.

narciso said...

I know it's squirrel, but still:


https://www.bjs.gov/index.cfm?ty=dcdetail&iid=261

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Yeah, this is the kind of off-the-cuff bloviating that Democrat party members, soap opera women, and prog traitors think is impeachable. Cocksucker Obama had the American media to bloviate for him, but he still made sure to regularly remind everyone what an arrogant asshole he was.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“This is why Trump cannot be allowed to do anything without question. He must be nailed down, on every statement, every pronouncement, every offer, every negotiation. He needs to be forced onto the record, and be made to be specific. Everything he does, and says, must be investigated. He should be cross-examined at every opportunity.

Wild. Or, wildly false and fraudulent.”

Exactly. Don’t take anything Trump says as truth. He’s been proven a liar one too many times.

Quaestor said...

...and denounce Obama's.

There's nothing more denouncable in the history of Sweden.

GDI said...

The Nobel was Hussein's participation trophy.

mockturtle said...

Note: Humble folk do not run for office.

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Freder Frederson@3:03PM I'll take that bet. Foreign leaders and allies respect America and its president now, unlike when sneaky coward traitor Obama was stabbing them in the back, and consorting with our enemies.

JaimeRoberto said...

I have to admit that I could do without this side of Trump, the barroom bullshitter.

Rob said...

"He was there for about 15 seconds and he got the Nobel Prize."

FACT CHECK: Obama had been in office for over eight months before the Norwegian Nobel Committee decided to award him the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009. Eight months is considerably longer than 15 seconds. Four Pinocchios.

Jeff Brokaw said...

I’m fine with Trump tooting his own horn, at every opportunity, in the face of relentless and withering criticism 24x7x365 from the same media that kissed Obama’s ass 24x7x365 — which is, on its face, a much, *much* worse situation for us as citizens and consumers of news.

steve uhr said...

Obama told trump he was going to start war with North Korea, thereby ensuring the destruction of Seoul, pop. 9.7 mil? Unlikely. But it does seem that Trump really believes that Obama told him that.

Kevin said...

"... if Obama really did anticipate war with N. Korea, it's reckless to broadcast that".

is that really news? Is it really shocking that no American president is going to allow North Korea to have both a nuclear weapon and the means to deliver it on an ICBM to the United States?

If it's shocking, it's only shocking because Obama might have had the balls to fulfill the duties of his office in this regard. My fear was the Nobel Prize would so handcuff him that the very idea of war on the Korean Peninsula wasn't something he could consider.

Here's another shocker: Trump is anticipating war with Iran if it goes down the same path. It's why he's so vehemently pursuing sanctions, because the alternative isn't an Iran that can obliterate Israel or Germany in a matter of minutes, it's war.

Everyone today is all about how Hitler should have been stopped at Munich, but in reality most continuously argue we must Chamberlain our way along.

Drago said...
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Drago said...

Its a good thing we have Steve Uhr here to tell us what really happened.

Steve, you should immediately alert the FBI about this latest revelation of yours so that the FBI can initiate a 25th Amendment removal of the President, just as the Constitution calls for.

Kevin said...

Obama told trump he was going to start war with North Korea, thereby ensuring the destruction of Seoul, pop. 9.7 mil?

A naval blockade is an act of war. Assassinating Kim is an act of war. Helping China invade is an act of war. Declaring war but postponing action to give Kim time to think is an act of war.

There are many moves on the board which do not "ensure the destruction of Seoul".

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“But it does seem that Trump really believes that Obama told him that.”

How normal is that? Scary in a President.

narciso said...

it is because the framework, shepherded by wendy Sherman, expedited the acquisition of nuclear armaments by north korea, and this is like the structure of the iran deal,

Ann Althouse said...

“Ann, DBQ didn't cut anything off. The part you're complaining she cut off is actually in your cut and paste of her quote. And she addressed that part, in detail.”

You’re right that she has the third sentence but she only addresses the other two, and she used boldface for the other two. It doesn’t make sense as a refutation of what I said. He reports something that Obama said.

Kevin said...

For those of you hoping Obama is going to come out and counter Trump's claims, what's Obama going to say?

Trump has already stated multiple times Obama told him the most pressing problem was North Korea. Given the situation that Obama would have outlined for him, it's clear to anyone that war was a possibility.

Trump is actually giving Obama credit for dealing forcefully with Kim, should the situation have deteriorated faster. You can't deter Kim without the possibility of war.

So do you think Obama is going to come out and contradict that entire line of thinking? He's going to say: "I would never under any circumstances have gone to war with North Korea. I would have let them keep building bombs, developing rockets, firing them over Japan, launching them at Guam, threatening Seattle, and I would have done nothing."

Sure, let him come out and say that.

Chuck said...

Dave said...
Yesterday Chuck was repeating Nancy Pelosi's exact talking points near word for word.



And when you popped off with that dumb shit comment, I immediately pointed out that senior Senate Republicans, Jonah Goldberg of National Review and the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board all voiced the same thoughts.

So fuck off, Dave. Do everybody a favor and post whatever you want but stay away from me and my comments. Either that, or come up with smarter comments.

madAsHell said...

Eight months is considerably longer than 15 seconds.

It truly was 15 seconds. It just felt like 8 months.

readering said...

Nut job.

Gary said...

This was like one of his rallies without the MAGA crowd cheering him on. It was all over the place and filled with exaggerations and lies and bombast. He actually backs into the announcement after talking about all his other so-called accomplishments because he knows his declaration of a state of emergency is a failure that he didn't get what he wanted from Congress. Walls won't stop drugs coming in and are an expensive not very effective vanity project. Nine out of ten opioids come through ports of entry but Trump says figures from his own administration are a lie. This whole conference shows he is a lying incompetent unable to function in office, unable to face reality, and should be removed by his Cabinet.

Dave said...

The truth hurts doesn't it, Chuck. And you are not helping yourself at all by referencing liberal Democrat Goldberg and the liberal Democrat National Review. Who is next? Bill Kristol? LOLOLOL.

FACT: It was Pelosi's argument.
FACT: You repeated it uncritically.

Conclusion: You are a Democrat.

So simple.

Now use more foul language just like all real life long conservatives use.

RigelDog said...

Jupiter says:
RigelDog said...

"... if Obama really did anticipate war with N. Korea, it's reckless to broadcast that".

Oh? Why? If you mean, it's reckless to release that information without first considering its possible impact, well, who says that happened?"

I think it's reckless because IF former Pres. Obama was actually contemplating war and he thought it was a good idea to let the world know that, he would have released that info himself. There's something about an off-the-record convo between the two most powerful men in the world, about potential world war, being broadcast by one party only for what appears to be self-aggrandizement that strikes me as reckless/inappropriate.

Guildofcannonballs said...

The best was Trump saying "look at the Federal prison stats, look at how many illegal immigrants are in our Federal prisons" in response to Accosta's bullshit stats.

Alex knows it too. These people are all running scared, as they should be.

https://quodverum.com/2019/02/45/shadow-warriors-how-trump-s-praetorian-is-saving-the-republic.html

Trump is playing 11 dimension chess. He always wins, everything that he wants. He is one of the few people, along with Stephen Cooper and myself and some others, other than sound and fury signifying shit.

Dave said...

Dave said...
Yesterday Chuck was repeating Nancy Pelosi's exact talking points near word for word.

And when you popped off with that dumb shit comment, I immediately pointed out that senior Senate Republicans, Jonah Goldberg of National Review and the Wall Street Journal Editorial Board all voiced the same thoughts.

So fuck off, Dave. Do everybody a favor and post whatever you want but stay away from me and my comments. Either that, or come up with smarter comments.
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I just wanted to save this comment. I had no idea this was Chuck's blog.

Drago said...

Dave: "Yesterday Chuck was repeating Nancy Pelosi's exact talking points near word for word"

Quite so, but it gets worse.

Just today, JUST TODAY, LLR and admitted smear merchant Chuck called the republican clean sweep victory of 2016 (republicans win the House, Senate and White House and 2 supreme ct picks) a, now brace yourself, a literal "disaster".

On top of Chucks Loud And Proud Pitch Perfect Smear Merchant alignment with the left, nothing more needs to be said now does it?

Jonah Goldberg has already completely exposed himself as a willing tool of the far left.

I guess he wants some of that sweet lefty billionaire lucre like all his cuck pals.

Chuck said...

Well, Dave, your last post is helpful to me. Now I know that you regard all non-Trump conservatives including Jonah Goldberg (the author of "Liberal Facsism" and the National Review as liberal Democrats.

We are at a point in conservatism much like what Bill Buckley (founder of the liberal Democrat National Review) faced in the late 1950's and early 1960's. A John Birch Society movement which thought that most of the employees in the federal government were communist sympathizers up to and including President Eisenhower.

Now it is the "Deep State" opposing Donald Trump, and everyone who is not supportive of Trump's personal goals and promises is "Deep State" or else "liberal Democrat."

Buckley called his antagonists "nuts" and on the occasions when he did take them seriously, he thought that they were a danger to the new conservative movement and to the nation more generally.

And that is where I think we are now. You are part of the 21st century "Birchers." I now understand what brand of moonbattery you subscribe to, and how useless it would be to respond to you at all. You have helped me a great deal, knowing to steer clear of you. I wish you'd return the favor, but I no longer care.

Drago said...

Ah yes, I see Chuck is attempting to resurrect his already twice failed Bircher analogy.

If seeing Chuck and his lefty pals pulling this again makes you laugh, well, it should.

Chuck's astonishingly perfect alignment with the left and the narratives is exceeded only by his amazingly weak tea attacks on Republican voters.

In fact, Chuck's anti-republican screeds read precisely how a far left funded moby smear merchant would write about republicans.

I suspect that is no accident.

Chris Lopes said...

@Rob
It still counts as a participation award unless you can cite some Nobel worthy accomplishment of his in those glorious 8 months of Camelot 2: The Sequel.

Dave said...

Nancy Pelosi said:

"Let's talk about today: The one-year anniversary of another manifestation of the epidemic of gun violence in America. That's a national emergency. Why don't you declare that emergency, Mr President? I wish you would," Pelosi said on Thursday, adding that "a Democratic president can do that."

Chuck said...

If he does, let's hope that a court order stops it. Before a Democratic president can use the precedent to declare a "climate change emergency" or a "student loan emergency" or an "income inequality emergency."

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Hey Freder Frederson, did Abe make a statement contradicting what the president claimed yet? How about faggot ass Obama? Any denials from mister "I'm really good at killing people"? Yeah, didn't think so.

Chuck said...

The Wall Street Journal Editorial Board:

The White House said Thursday that President Trump will sign a border-security funding bill but also declare a national emergency to spend even more to build his wall at the Rio Grande. The emergency declaration will please his most ardent supporters, but Mr. Trump is setting an unfortunate precedent—and judges could tie up his wall in court for years.

Mr. Trump had little choice other than to sign the spending bill or see the government shut down for the second time in a month. He boxed himself in by saying in December that he’d gladly take ownership of a shutdown, only to discover that his poll numbers fell further the longer the January closure went on.

Republicans in Congress bailed him out by getting at least $1.38 billion for border funding, enough for about 55 miles of fencing. Mr. Trump is grousing that Senate Republicans were out-negotiated, but they had to play the bad hand he dealt them. He should be grateful because he blundered into the shutdown with bluster but no strategy.

Yet rather than declare partial victory and fight again in the next budget, Mr. Trump will now test the limits of his executive power. The White House hasn’t released the details of its legal justification. But it’s likely he will employ the National Emergencies Act of 1976 so he can move funds previously appropriated for other purposes to build his wall. This looks to us like a misuse of the emergency power delegated by Congress, which is meant for genuine security crises, not to fulfill a campaign promise.
...

Constitutional conservatives should also worry if Mr. Trump wins in court. A precedent will be set that future Presidents could use to impose their own priorities despite a reluctant Congress. If climate change will end life as we know it in 12 years, why not impose part of the Green New Deal? No one believes more than we do that a President needs flexibility to move with dispatch in wartime. But the Constitution is also clear that Congress must appropriate money for public purposes.

Mr. Trump’s obsession with building a wall has caused him no end of political grief. He’ll be lucky if this emergency declaration doesn’t end the same way.


Seeing Red said...

They’re prepping an Israeli-Palestinian deal.

HT said...

"The man (Trump) is so high on himself. "

Wow, what a timely observation (if, by timely, I meant 4 years after this was all glaringly apparent)!

Drago said...

Number of LLR Chuck posts against any National Emergency declared by democrat Presidents in the past remains at: ZERO

Number of future LLR Chuck posts against any National Emergency declared by a democrat President is estimated to be: ZERO

HT said...

"Number of future LLR Chuck posts against any National Emergency declared by a democrat President is estimated to be: ZERO "

Correct! There never have been or ever will be democrat Presidents.

Chuck said...

I love Trump more and more as time goes forward. I'm old enough to remember when we had a greasy little Communist street protester as president. If you aren't grateful for Trump, it isn't because you love this country.

Drago said...

HT: "Correct! There never have been or ever will be democrat Presidents."

How did you miss this line: "Number of LLR Chuck posts against any National Emergency declared by democrat Presidents in the past remains at: ZERO"

I'm willing to cut you some slack since you are a lefty and have to operate with LLR Chuck as your key blog ally at your side and that can't be easy for any of the lefties here.

traditionalguy said...

DJT was contemplating his 3 years of victories over the Swamp, the Clinton Army, the CIA , the Norks , Iran and the Chinese Communist Dictatorship.and the Global wealth flow World Government’s massive Propaganda Media. He knows he has won, and that means it is post traumatic stress time. Like Patton after the German Empire surrendered, he is floating some without a battle left to fight...like a rolling stone with no direction home.

He needs golf.

Drago said...

LLR Chuck: "I love Trump more and more as time goes forward."

I doubt there is any love left over after all you shower upon the dems and your MSNBC/CNN heroes.

Drago said...

LLR Chuck: "I'm old enough to remember when we had a greasy little Communist street protester as president."

Whose policies to this day you defend.

Coincidental I'm quite sure....

Chris Lopes said...

Obama was actually nominated for the Nobel 11 days after taking office. Brought on a 1000 years of peace he did.

Chuck said...

Drago you are getting trolled by another “Chuck”.

Note the avatar/. It isn’t me.

There’s really no limits to your stupidity or your obsession is there?


Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Drago you are getting trolled by another “Chuck”.

Note the avatar/. It isn’t me.

There’s really no limits to your stupidity or your obsession is there?”

Hahaha! I was waiting to see how long it would take him to realize. He’s always in such a hurry to blabber at those he opposes, he’s made mistakes like this before.

Drago said...

Inga: "he’s made mistakes like this before."

Like, dossier mistakes?

Like, gee, what infanticide bills mistakes?

Like, who says the Womens March leadership is anti-semitic mistakes?

Drago said...

Note to self: lets add "Troll" to the long list of terms whose definition LLR Chuck does not understand.

But still, its nice to see Inga and LLR Chuck working together so nicely.

It's always terrific when people who share the same outlook and goals can get together.

Jupiter said...

"The man (Trump) is so high on himself."

It rather seems to me that he is "high" on his own accomplishments. And while is suppose modesty is a virtue, What would you? That he had no accomplishments? That he was high on someone else's accomplishments?

Jupiter said...

Of course, it's not real clear what the accomplishment was. Last time I checked, North Korea was still a sick, depraved hate state, ruining the lives of its own citizens and threatening the lives of hundreds of millions in other nations.

Lyle said...

Jupiter... have missiles not stopped flying over Japan?

Rory said...

Trump might actually be setting out the parameters of winnibg a Nobel, intending to accomplish the stated acts and backing the committee into a corner.

mockturtle said...

But still, its nice to see Inga and LLR Chuck working together so nicely.

Made for each other.

Big Mike said...

I imagine that the only thing stopping Obama from nuclear strikes on North Korea was his fear that the Nobel committee might ask for their Peace Prize back.

chickelit said...

Why was Althouse so into one upping DBQ in the beginning of this thread?
Bizarre!

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Why was Althouse so into one upping DBQ in the beginning of this thread?
Bizarre!”

One upping? It’s bizarre to consider it “one upping”. I’d say she was correcting her and pointing out she wasn’t being fair by not considering Trump’s very clearly spoken words, when DBQ wrongly said that he didn’t speak for Obama.

“In fact, he told me he was so close to starting a big war with North Korea.”

chickelit said...

Trump didn’t speak for Obama. Trump was on the receiving end of a conversation and he relayed what he heard. You believe it as fact or not. None of us were there.

narciso said...

Did Obama really show Any indication of the threat North Korea presented no.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Trump blabbed about (probably lying) something that Obama supposedly said. We don’t know what Obama really said or didn’t say. He spoke for Obama, wanting us to think that’s what Obama said or thought. He put words into Obama’s mouth, that may be a total lie, plus he has no right to disclose what Obama said to him in private, unless Obama gives him permission. Trump is speaking out of turn.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

Inga says I’d say she was correcting her and pointing out she wasn’t being fair by not considering Trump’s very clearly spoken words, when DBQ wrongly said that he didn’t speak for Obama.

Well, take some time off to get out of the house and see what happens.

Trump did not speak FOR Obama. He relayed what HE [Trump} thought about what Obama said. He believed that Obama would have gone to war. And then Trump relayed something that Obama said.

However, IF Obama said what was relayed, that is pretty pertinent information.

Now, we do only have Trump's version of what Obama said. It might just be what Trump thought that Obama was saying... in his opinion. Just like we only have unconfirmed versions of what Trump has said. (Unnamed Sources say...or so they say) And, as I said,...really Trump often talks just a bit too much.

But, to say what you think about what someone says, is not speaking for that person. You are only speaking for yourself.

BTW: I don't accept being "corrected" when I am expressing my opinion. If I misstate actual facts and am proven incorrect, then I will happily be corrected and accept the correction.

My opinions are my own. Like it or not.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

“Trump did not speak FOR Obama. He relayed what HE [Trump} thought about what Obama said. He believed that Obama would have gone to war. And then Trump relayed something that Obama said.”

You didn’t get Althouse’s lesson, you were corrected in my opinion because you were wrong. Your assertion was erroneous. I don’t like or dislike your opinion, they’re not all that important in the scheme of things, none of our opinions are.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Plus DBQ, you were trying to be a wee bit sneaky, ignoring the last sentence and bolding the other sentences. Did you think no one would notice what you did?

chickelit said...

Quaestor said...There's nothing more denouncable in the history of Sweden.

Actually, we can blame the Norwegians. While it's true that the Swedes award all the rest of the prizes, it's the Norges who choose the Peace Prize winners -- all of them. Apparently, Alfred Nobel never divulged why in his will.

Did Obama ever say -- in his own words -- what he did to deserve the Prize? Here is the citation from the committee itself:

The Norwegian Nobel Committee has decided that the Nobel Peace Prize for 2009 is to be awarded to President Barack Obama for his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples. The Committee has attached special importance to Obama’s vision of and work for a world without nuclear weapons.

chickelit said...

So probably all that work that Obama did trying denuclearize Iran was just him trying to live up to his prize. I mean it's not like he made the world safer for Israel.

Fen said...

Althouse: "Play fair or lose credibility."

I remember how you dedicated a blog post to defaming me as a homophobe because I expressed boredom with the 4th post in a row on homosexual issues.

People make mistakes, people over-react. But they also apologize to make ammends. And there's no time limit.

You never did. And you never will.

So when Althouse cautions "play fair or lose credibility", she has none.

Achilles said...

Obama started at least 3 other wars and dropped bombs in several other countries.

His incompetence was plain to anyone with eyes.

He probably was close to going to war in one of the few countries he hadn't fucked up yet.

chickelit said...

Althouse was a breathless Obama voter in 2008. She text-whispered to her son the next day: “We did it.”

chickelit said...

Althouse thought that Obama was a racial healer. My theory is that she saw him as the Jimi Hendrix of politics — a racial cross-over artist. She was wrong. She will never admit this.

sdharms said...

did althouse ever point out how high BHO was on himself? He is like AOC, so confident in his ignorance. And I bet Ann liked the crease in his trousers.
the sad thing is , she was a teacher.

Mkd said...

"I restated to President Park and Prime Minister Abe the unshakable U.S. commitment to take necessary steps to defend our allies in the region, including through our deployment of a Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) battery to the ROK, and the commitment to provide extended deterrence, guaranteed by the full spectrum of U.S. defense capabilities."
Obama White House

Doesn't full spectrum of U.S. defense capabilities mean war, if necessary? I believed, based on this Statement, that Obama was willing to go to war if N. Korea did not "return to the path of denuclearization." It doesn't seem far fetched that Obama told Trump something similar in private.

Illuninati said...

I don't especially like Trump's personality but I LOVE what he is doing. In Trump's case, the old saying "actions speak louder than words" is sagacious.

Dust Bunny Queen said...

IngaYou didn’t get Althouse’s lesson

I suppose that you are under the impression that this is a class. That you are a student, that there is a teacher, and there will be grades?

RichAndSceptical said...

All of us have stream of consciousness, but most of us are able to filter out extraneous information and not say it out loud.

It's not hard to listen to Trump and filter out the extraneous stuff. In fact, Trump supporters do it without even thinking about it.

exhelodrvr1 said...

He's right.