They are talking about the first 2 paragraphs of the Washington Post's report on Trump's trip to Iraq:
President Trump touched down Wednesday in Iraq in his first visit to a conflict zone as commander in chief, a week after announcing a victory over the Islamic State that his own Pentagon and State Department days earlier said remained incomplete.In the words of the WSJ: "[C]an anyone reading those opening two sentences wonder why millions of Americans believe Donald Trump when he tells them that he can’t get a fair shake from the press?"
The president’s visit to Al Asad Air Base west of Baghdad, which was shrouded in secrecy, follows months of public pressure for him to spend time with troops deployed to conflicts in the Middle East and punctuates the biggest week of turmoil the Pentagon has faced during his presidency.
I'll just add that I can barely read the news these days (and I absolutely cannot watch it on TV). The negativity toward Trump is so relentless, cluttering up everything. It's crying wolf times a thousand. If anything is worth taking seriously, I'm afraid I won't be able to notice.
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 327 of 327They don't actually hate Trump all that much. They hate us. Trump just happens to represent us.
That is true. The elite hate us. They want us to die off and be replaced by illegal immigrants/
If anyone still believes in the reliability and impartiality of the MSM, they haven't been paying attention.
And if Trump was a D and doing exactly the same things with exactly the same policies the folks here would be hysterical.
If a 21st century Democrat actually cared about blacks and Hispanics getting jobs in record numbers I wouldn't be hysterical, I'd be gobsmacked.
I assume that John is a racist son of a some $5 whore who hates it that young black and Hispanic men have good jobs. He'd much rather that they suffer. Because he's a racist.
"If anything is worth taking seriously, I'm afraid I won't be able to notice."
Yes, we're all terribly upset and disappointed that Althouse missed the critical information that finally showed what an incompetent mess the president is. I guess it's our own fault.
According to CNN - it should be illegal to wear a MAGA hat. And the military should be banned from wearing a MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN HAT.
leftists are anti-free speech totalitarian a-holes.
The MSM are like the Wicked Witch of the East, after Dorothy threw the water on her. They are shriveling into a little screeching pile of wadded-up rags. They're dying, and they know it, and they are filled with impotent rage. Of course, it isn't Trump who is killing them, it's their butt-buddies at Google and Facebook, who have stolen their advertising lunch. But you don't get a journalism degree because you are good at logical reasoning.
As I understand it, the Shroud of Secrecy is an upgraded version of the Cone of Silence, which had technical limitations.
First comment by Darrell, That was one of my mom's favourite sayings. If she didn't like someone she would say they were not worth the powder to blow them to hell. Her other favourite saying was - If your asshole was square you could shit a brick.
And if Trump was a D and doing exactly the same things with exactly the same policies the folks here would be hysterical.
Well, we have a test case of what Democrats do when one of theirs does worse, for example, taking scores of millions from Putin cronies, actually raping women “What you can do to a woman against her will has changed...” Starting actual wars from scratch,,, etc. Lying to get legislation passed.
The results don’t make your party look good.
Something that's a lot cooler than the WSJ or the WaPo is Santana - Soul Sacrifice 1969 "Woodstock" Live Video HQ. I never get tired of that video.
They don't seem to make Mexican like that anymore :-(
If your asshole was square you could shit a brick.
Here, it would have to be rectangular. Except for pavers and specialty brick. Red John would know. If he hasn't drown from the brackish water in a ditch.
CHarlie's in the groove in The Rolling Stones - Midnight Rambler Marquee Club 1971. Check out Keef's capo!
@Ferdie: Woodstock was their national debut. They started as a blues band but they liked what “Latin rhythm” did to women’s hips. A couple band members quit and became “Journey.” Not in that order.
Keef's long lost brother.
The media won't show you this.
Anytime the Hillary Clinton press say the words "experts say" - I laugh out loud.
They don't actually hate Trump all that much. They hate us. Trump just happens to represent us.
Yep.
And I hate them right back.
This won't end well. It never does.
But I'm past the point of giving a damn.
Woodstock.
What a show that was. Really.
Tony Iommi kicks ass 40-some years later in Black Sabbath "Paranoid" Live in Birmingham - May 19, 2012
You think they’ve undermined their credibility by bashing Trump. Check out how they behaved in Duke LaCrosse. And the only politics involved there was some crooked DA trying to keep a lucrative job he promised he wouldn’t try to get elected to.
School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.
The advice to teachers was approved by Brighton & Hove City Council as they try to tackle stigma around menstruation.
The new advice follows a council report which said: "Trans boys and men and non-binary people may have periods", adding that "menstruation must be inclusive of all genders".
Bins used for menstruation products will be provided in all toilets for children, according to the report.
It also calls for transgender students and pupils to be provided with additional support from a school nurse if needed.
The report recommends that "language and learning about periods is inclusive of all genders, cultures, faiths and sexual orientations. For example; ‘girls and women and others who have periods'
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/12/16/boys-can-have-periods-schoolchildren-taught-latest-victory-transgender/
iowan2 said...
John said
Ground water is often contaminated with high levels of salt either from sea water infiltration or from underground salt deposits.
Now John has just declared all of the planets salt water=brackish. I have never heard the Great Salt Lake, or the Dead Sea, called brackish. Because people that aren't stupid, know the difference between the brackish water and the Dead Sea
We in the business would call the Great Salt Lake and the Dead Sea hypersaline.
"all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons
Feminine gender, yes. Which includes all or most females, throughout part of their evolution, excluding transgender/neo-females (i.e. physically or mentally divergent), but including female transgender/homosexuals, bisexuals, and transvestites.
Persecution complex on steroids... deplorables in name, in soul, indeed.
WAPO implies the visit is the result of criticism. But since they criticize him all day, every day for everything he does or does not do, there is no way to know. Whatever action he takes or does not take has already been pre-criticized--much like the way he was pre-wiretapped, pre-smeared and pre-impeached before he came down the escalator.
I give the Post ten Pinocchios. Not for this--for calling Khashoggi a "journalist" when he was just a beard for the 'Hood.
A Progressive (i.e. monotonic) Pinocchio (another PP).
They started as a blues band but they liked what “Latin rhythm” did to women’s hips.
Jerry Garcia started out as a bluegrass banjo player.
Facts?
"1) President Trump touched down Wednesday in Iraq
2) This was his first visit to a conflict zone as commander in chief
3) This was a week after announcing a victory over the Islamic State
4) His own Pentagon and State Department days earlier said the victory remained incomplete
5) The president visited Al Asad Air Base west of Baghdad
6) The visit was shrouded in secrecy
7) The visit follows months of public pressure for him to spend time with troops deployed to conflicts in the Middle East
8) The visit punctuates the biggest week of turmoil the Pentagon has faced during his presidency"
Several of these 'facts' are one side of the ongoing quarrel between the media and Trump. You might call them Acostoids (after Acosta) they are not facts about Iraq and its situation. These Acostoids are:
This was Trump's first visit though the media has been pressuring Trump for months to visit the troops; Trump did not tell the media about the upcoming visit, it was "shrouded in secrecy"; Trump's visit "punctuates the biggest week of turmoil"
First of all, these points are poorly written.
1. Baghdad was not "shrouded in secrecy," the visit was, as pointed out above.
2. "The visit punctuates the biggest week of turmoil...". The visit did not "punctuate" either 'turmoil' or a 'week.' Visits don't punctuate.
Next these 'facts' are written in evocative rather than factual language. For example, "Shrouded in secrecy" is an evocative rather than a factual statement.
Next, it is not a fact that the media was "pressuring Trump for months" to visit troops. Rather the media began following that talking point in mid-November 2018.
Next, what would I call facts?
Facts would address the following questions:
Why were we in Syria? Why did President Obama get us in? Why didn't Congress vote on it? Why does President Trump think we should leave? Why does the Pentagon think we should stay? Why do they disagree? What facts bear on this difference of opinion?
What would I not call factual?
"I look forward to your analysis, mouth-breathing idiot". This is not factual. Dems don't look forward to anything the other side says. And furthermore, Dems think it is insensitive and hegemonic and very much non-factual to use the word "idiot." Who doesn't know that?
D-Day was shrouded in secrecy.
Fact.
CNN would have been asking Hitler what he thought about the Normandy landing site.
@John The government has not right to tell me what I can buy and from whom.
Good God!!! Did you ever try to buy a gun in New York State??
Yabutt....John is OK with the Government telling you what you HAVE to buy and fining you if you don't buy what they insist. Obamacare.
We in the business would call the Great Salt Lake and the Dead Sea hypersaline.
"Brackish water" is just water that is saltier than "fresh" water, but less salty than the ocean; it doesn't matter where it comes from, Jesus dudes, just use a dictionary.
Great Salt Lake is between 3.5 and 8 times saltier than the ocean. So it's not brackish.
CHarlie's in the groove in The Rolling Stones - Midnight Rambler Marquee Club 1971. Check out Keef's capo!
Check out “Dead Flowers” from the same date — Mick does a white American accent instead of his usual black.
The Rolling Stones - Dead Flowers - From The Vault - The Marquee – Live In 1971
What you call ghosts we call blizzards. We done seen us some.
John said...
"So they should just let the constant stream of lies go? Not bring it up? Or maybe Trump could stop lying - how about that?"
I'll let you and others worry about keeping track of every false fact, inaccuracy and lie Obama and Trump have ever uttered. I'm going to worry about what is in fact true and what really matters.Such as:
Donald J. Trump
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Donald J. Trump Retweeted Barack Obama
I totally agree!
Donald J. Trump added,
Barack Obama
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@BarackObama
I strongly believe that we should take on, once and for all, the issue of illegal immigration. #SOTU
4,784 replies 10,379 retweets 34,920 likes
Reply 4.8K Retweet 10K Like 35K
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1078396200842395648
No lie, all true. Plus, it really matters.
Darrell said...
School children will be taught that "all genders" can have periods in new sex education lessons, in a victory for transgender rights campaigners.
There. Are. Four! Lights!!!
Or...
So when the boy comes staggering dazed out of the bathroom at Disney and turns left, and the man strides out of the same bathroom and turns right, no questions need be asked about why the boy has rectal bleeding that is leaving a trail...the men's room must have been out of tampons!
One of favorite Chuck, fopdoodle extraordinaire, flail fails is when he exalts the Wall Street Journal.
The very same Wall Street Journal whose Leftist reporters founded Fusion GPS and pay Leftist LawFareFirm Perkins Coie and their star Leftiat lawyer Marc Elias to attack Republicans on behalf of Democrats - with no FEC reporting to be found!
Chuck loves the lying liar Leftists at the WSJ.
Chuck is a Leftist.
We in the business would call the Great Salt Lake and the Dead Sea hypersaline.
Thanks Fritz. That's kind of my point.
This is because I was taking the media to task, and used a media account of how fraking was causing ground water contamination, and as proof, reported that a town sued, and a fraking co. paid to fix their water infrastructure. My point was water infrastructure does not fix GROUND WATER. John stepped up and equated ground water to surface water,(surface water being my point, and the reporter equating ground water with surface water is an example of a reporter not knowing what they are reporting about.) John's been digging his hole deeper ever since. Defending his position that brackish water can be ground water sourced. Disagreeing with me, but using the wrong reasons.
CR500.
WI.
Atc 70 kindergarten.
CR 80 at 13.
KING OF ALL POWERSPORTS.
Obama, Meryl "I love Harvey Weinstein" Streep, Cher, and others in Hillrywoodland - what do they all have in common?
*******
10' walls around their homes.
Rest assured - walls don't work.
Wnen I said fuck it my Sea Doo XP 800 was a lesson. Big exhaust. CR500 wise. Few of us left.
2011 Obama tweet..way back when it was ok to use the words "illegal immigration".
so interesting details about Maggie Mitchell salem, khashoggi's minder, well she used to work for the middle east institute, where joe Wilson of plame flame was from, her linkedin, gives little details, on her contact list, is ferial govashiri (sic) who is the chief of staff, to the content officer, for Netflix, but previously she worked at the nsc, under ben Rhodes, so the odds of balanced program about Obama policies in the 10s, are going to be slim and none
Nebraska is the greatest state in the World. We all love and wish the best for all Nebraskins, each and every one.
here's part of her profile
https://uwm.edu/sce/instructors/ferial-govashiri/
Media are just butthurt that they weren’t there to lie about the visit. President Trump is supposed to compromise his security to give them a heads up. Truth is, the media want President Trump to compromise his own security.
Ways of exponentialism heretofore unconsidered because I was never taught there was a name for that which opened Buckley's door even unto Salvation.
I alwYss thought "O' Death" sas "Odessa, NE."
Are they fimishing the yob?
Being born and hesrs and hesrs WI I an tomoorow welcome to the Biv 14 or whatever
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This isn’t about the Wall, everybody knows that a Wall will work perfectly (In Israel the Wall works 99.9%). This is only about the Dems not letting Donald Trump & the Republicans have a win. They may have the 10 Senate votes, but we have the issue, Border Security. 2020!
Truth-O-Meader rates this tweet: TRUE!
AFAIK, the only ground water impact was in the Wind River Basin in Wy. No good thick clay/shale cap rocks. Injection fluids pushed up the annulus and into fresh water.
It goes fresh, brackish to seawater, then brine. Oil and gas usually is contained in brine. Disposal of the brine can cause groundwater contamination.
oh well that's awkward:
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/putin-is-our-enemy-too-says-chechen-fighter-in-ukraine-sv2rf2qtz
H.T. D. Barry -
Ex-NASA Engineer Admits Fart-Laced ‘Glitter Bomb’ Video Was Staged but not by him, staged by his friends.
here we go again:
https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2018/12/27/same-sketchy-journalists-claim-again-michael-cohen-in-prague-story/
narciso,
It's just a logical career progression..
"In 2014, Govashiri was named personal aide to the President of the United States, one of the most coveted jobs in Washington. In this role, she perfected the art of leadership and grace under immense pressure as the literal gatekeeper of the Oval Office.
Now working as chief of staff to the chief content officer at Netflix, Govashiri continues to run the show professionally while captivating audiences as a keynote speaker."
So..how many other former Obama staffers are/will be in the ranks of Nutflix?
The NYT as "Paper of Record": It's been spindled, torn, and mutilated. Used to sop up coffee. Now worthless.
Any of you stupid single name boots wanna provide one single news item supporting the assertion that there was "months of public pressure for him to spend time with troops deployed to conflicts in the middle East."...
Craig? Mark? Otto? Chuck?
ot fore zzz adddoring
Foresmoking.
Nuences.
You pay a lot for smoke.
John@10:22 What happened to Trump's plan? Your prog Democrat party hero John McCain crawled out of his deathbed to kill it with a turn of his twisted crooked thumb, and distorted demented sense of propiety.
I think it's hilarious that Lefties parrot Saudi and Russian talking point RE: fracking.
The lies of those two serve the financial ends of the original liars: Russians and Saudis.
And the Leftist Collectivist greenie weenies are, as always, useful idiots to Russian propaganda.
Matt Damon's anti-fracking movie was Saudi financed, as I recall.
The twit who continues to mock Kavanaugh is a Saudi stooge?
Katshit foiled again.
Ohio Republican Gov. John Kasich’s veto opposing a bill for gun owners’ rights was overturned by the Republican-led state legislature Thursday. The state House first voted to overturn Kasich’s veto on the bill, which makes it easier for off-duty police officers to access guns and also changes laws regarding self-defense cases.
well actually it came from dubai's film financing arm, they financed most of the antiwar stinkers, lions for lambs, elah, of that era, now it was American progress that fundraised from Saudi sources, now it's probably the likes of Omidyar,
Oil and gas usually is contained in brine. Disposal of the brine can cause groundwater contamination.
Howard, I don't want to put too fine of on this, there is a difference, a big difference, between surface water (contaminated by disposing of brine) and ground water. That's the only reason its on this thread. The confusion of the two. Claiming they are the same leads to the false accusations of ground water contamination caused by fracking.
they are mentioned here:
https://www.businessinsider.com/matt-damon-movie-blasts-fracking-backed-by-uae-2012-9
Ah, well then Russian, Saudi, and Emirati financed.
So dupes for a wider range of jerks.
For years in San Diego, most residents have referred to the barrier there as a fence. But some have taken to calling it a wall, in a nod to the president’s campaign messaging and the barrier’s three reinforced layers of sheet metal, concrete columns and metal fence edged by razor wire.
“I’m not sure what more they could plan to do here; we have a pretty extensive border wall here already that dates back to Bush, when they raised the height and added more layers,” said Serge Dedina, the mayor of Imperial Beach, who has spent his whole life on the border. “It has significantly changed already. As always with the border, it has nothing to do with reality. We’re the safest beach city in San Diego County.” --NYT
Very good. Build THAT. All the way across. Call it a fence not a wall, I don't care. Call Trump a liar for calling it a wall when it isn't the great wall of china. So what. Just build it (and everything else -- e-verify, high tech cameras, etc.) In other words, secure the border and do what Obama admitted needed to be done but didn't do: solve the issue of illegal immigration once and for all.
We got less than great but more than grand expectations.
If Kasich, through some thoroughly malevolent set of circumstances, became the 2020 GOP nominee, could he be counted on to win his own state? I doubt it.
But Meade, that would be immoral.
Katshit has Chuck's vote.
That's a given.
Therev is no greaterv world that coulr exidt withou t its grewtestv state stilk being lessor than Nebraska.
Nebraska is the gfeatest state anyone could postulate.
I love it here. I' s alwzys actex my best i. Nebraska. Love itn here. Always on bezt most honorable behavior.
Trump announces his wall. Dragons come later.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slWAi068lXA
https://www.nueskes.com
"But Meade, that would be immoral."
Truth-O-Meader rates that comment: Sarcastic!
Blogger ALP said...
. . .
I stick with The Economist for reading...so far.
. . .
There is an interesting critique of The Economist here.
The author is an economics prof (retired) named Catlan. He says the editorial position of the Economist has become Euro-globalist. Kind of a Tony Blair neo-liberal POV. Immigration is always good, "free trade" is always good (I put it in parenthesis because real "free trade" treaties don't 400 pages pages of rules describing what can and cannot be traded under what circumstances). The cross-border flow of goods and services must not be interrupted, and the only legitimate use of military power is to keep the goods moving. Also, womens' and LGBTQ rights and global warming must be written into "free trade" agreements.
At some point the magazine is not about economics, but about spreading bien pensant views of the global elite.
"Nebraska is the gfeatest state anyone could postulate."
Truth-O-Meader rates this comment: Both Axiomatically True and Truly Axiomatic!
Fortunately, The Economist has been outsourced to other more reasonable news sources.
I was a subscriber for several years in the 90's and early 00's, but I dropped them when they went full sullivanist during the Obama years. The editor was even an Oxford chum of Sullivan.
I listened to Richard Epstein on a podcast yesterday. Epstein is a smart guy. It is interesting to see how TDS makes smart people stupid. Epstein said that he was glad Hillary lost, but Trump is an unimaginably bad president. He wanted Trump to resign the day that he took office, Epstein thinks that Pence would be a fine president.
But Pence wouldn't have won against Hillary. You can't say with certainty that any of them would have been able to defeat Hillary. Would the Obama voters of 2012 who turned out for Trump in 2016 have voted en masse for Pence? Trump's voters (I am not one of them) voted for Trump for a reason. It would have been a deep betrayal of democratic principles if the GOP played "bait and switch" and given Trump's voters . . . Pence. The outcome would have been worse, the damage to the republic would have been far worse than letting trump be Trump.
Why did any of you bother to respond to "John?" He got whatever sick psychic need he neded to fulfill satisfied by your attention and left.
Lewis Wetzel,
I find the responses to Trump, such as you describe from Epstein, to be unserious whinging. The policy positions that Trump has taken are little different than those of mainstream politicians in the 1970s and 1980s. Protecting intellectual property transfers to China, a global military rival, is a standard position from the Cold War.
Even Trump's leveraging of the dominant US economic position to jawbone and cajole international competitors to honor their promises (EU and NATO) or find more equitable trading positions (NAFTA, China) are not controversial. His goal has been stated repeatedly: lower tariffs on American goods.
And on the military front Trump appears to be returning the Republican Party to its pre-Bush43 role of patrolling the oceans with a dominant Blue Water Navy and withdrawing from failed "nation building" efforts. Those "nation building" efforts were resisted by many conservatives (I regret to confess I wavered on this account but quickly returned to my senses.) because they generally do not work. We might have to project force to defend our own national interests but Trump seems to be pulling away from the notion of America as the world's policeman. And well he should!
Finally, Trump appears determined to restrain the Leviathan State. He has withdrawn federal intrusions in some areas (land management water rights, and education, prominently) and diminished some previous overreach. While I might like greater disruption (DHS is a nightmare and airport security should be returned to private employment) and entire Cabinet Departments removed I can accept half a loaf in these first two years.
Would I prefer lower spending? Of course. But the battles to trim social programs would mean Trump is replaced after 4 years by a Liberal Democrat. So why pretend that is a legitimate option? As states begin to admit their own respective unsustainable financial predicaments, perhaps a crisis will empower people to make the difficult and necessary decisions (means testing SS and raising the retirement age, for examples) but history suggests otherwise. I cannot criticize Trump too much when he acts like every other fiscally irresponsible politician facing re-election.
Eh... or maybe I am all wet and things are much better or much worse than I observe.
Land management, water rights, and education...
That is a three thing list but a comma went missing.
Trump's fearmongering will literally destroy the planet!
https://wlos.com/news/nation-world/medicare-will-require-hospitals-to-post-all-prices-online?fbclid=IwAR0cAguJFEdSKZoPUc9oVF0wrb8rKTcjNzIFJcmjOdvVi_XMERZSn8fP5iA
Hospitals required to post prices.
This is the sort of transparency that people like.
And good information made widely available is a proper role of government because it reduces transactional frictions.
This is good stuff from the Trump Administration.
This onetime #nervoustrumper is absolutely, solidly behind the 2nd greatest president in my 49 years(Reagan currently #1; this could change). FLOTUS is redefining the position with the grace of a great lady as opposed to being an activist for anything other than the American people.
I followed Mr. Limbaugh's advice nearly two years ago: shut the TV news off. Period. My life has been exponentially better ever since.
Trump is three steps ahead of our 'ruling class' and they know it and cannot stop him. Stay firm, folks.
Love the site, Ann - Thanks for allowing comments.
Meadeometer,
Truuuummmmp! said:
"I can tell you it's not going to be open until we have a wall, a fence, whatever they would like to call it,"
Our partisan democrat press is not only utterly worthless in regards to reporting the news, but outright dangerous in pushing false narratives and damaging leftist propaganda. Who needs these bloviating idiots when you can simply subscribe to the lying democrat's crappy talking point mailers.
Birk,
Are you familiar w/ the concept of 'garbage in garbage out'? Too much data. W/ no pro filter.
Also, unless you're a coder (i.e. someone paid by a hospital to spend every day double checking the errors re docs and other staff re billing), good luck making sense of adding up the inputs re the treatment of yur particular ailment. Even then, you still can't predict which costs will, for a particular situation, cumulatively rack up.
Plus, cost transparency has already been required. Pre DJT.
And even before that, insurers figured such cause that's how they set rates and reimbursements. But, I get it: now, you as an individual will write code to take this internet data re the cost of a cotton swab and all the rest to figure where you should go for med care. And, you'll save money compared to the big companies and Medicare who have been doing this math for a long time, w/ lots-a-staff doing it. And, you'll also include quality of outcome data along w/ the pricing data in yur algo.
Logic is tricky.
adSs,
Better that people have less information and no chance at all, therefore, to synthesize that information, one supposes.
Your disdain for other people is well and truly appreciated.
We should all just allow our betters, such as you, to do our thinking for us.
Right?
Honestly, Why do you even deign to rub shoulders with average joes like me?
(By some expansive definitions of the word average, I suppose.)
anti-de Sitter space said...cost transparency has already been required. Pre DJT.
--
Ah..circa __?
Wasn't that long ago I went into a University hospital for a consult and front line couldn't tell me shit about costs...a strange concept among the public sector drones they mostly served. And during course of said later consult, a second doctor wandered in and rendered a 5 second opinion at additional cost.
Bullshit.
adSs,
When you decided the perfect was the enemy of the good, did you and people of your high social caste take a vote?
Was it a roll call vote or a voice vote?
I am asking so dregs of society like me know how things work in your rarified air.
New law that requires new things that take effect on January 1, 2019...
adSs says that new law with new rules is not new.
Naturally I have to believe my social better.
"CMS clarified that all hospitals required by the IPPS/LTCH PPS final rule for the 2015 fiscal year (FY) to make public a list of the hospital’s standard charges for items and services provided by the organization are also required to make that list public via the Internet in FY 2019."
https://revcycleintelligence.com/news/cms-clarifies-healthcare-price-transparency-rules-for-hospitals
Walt,
Now do you want them to point you to an insane spreadsheet online? There you can pick through the cotton swabs and paper cups for ice chips and the rest so you can figure out what you think you may end up being charged for your care before you enter.
MAGA!
adSs,
You are literally arguing that less information should be available to the public about the costs of medical services.
Now I am curious why.
I am wondering what benefits you believe will accrue to you if this information is less accessible.
Or perhaps what detriment you expect to sustain if the information is more widely available.
Spill.
[Unknown:] Our partisan democrat press is not only utterly worthless in regards to reporting the news, but outright dangerous in pushing false narratives and damaging leftist propaganda.
The NYT has a several macros that are variations of "Trump said, without evidence, [just about anything Trump has said]"
Number of times the NYT said that about Susan Ford and the rest of Kavanaugh's accusers?
How about zero alex?
https://www.frontpagemag.com/point/272377/washington-post-cant-stop-publishing-iranian-daniel-greenfield?fbclid=IwAR1Jyl_vMNDYsvnbNIFl811MVmwVji-h9ZdQchvbeT68HNgLBZ-SRDIN3sI#.XCWgBcvuuvE.facebook
WaPo’s descent into darkness is why I start my daily browsing at Althouse.
Birk,
1) People need a Rosetta Stone to translate raw data into usable info. And, they need the Stone to also include metrics re outcomes for a particular provider v other providers.
2) Even w/ 1, in an a la carte, pay-as-ya-go world, you also need to know the future to know what exact procedures will end up being provided to you after you walk through the door. (IOW, historic data re the care of other people, is not the same as your future situation.)
IMHO.
Proving iowahawks point:
https://mobile.twitter.com/HeshmatAlavi/status/1078340555761958912
'Shitter,
Turns out we are (cross)talking about clinic consults vs inpatient hospital stays.
But..I fear for confusing you with such distinctions.
FOA&D!
With all due respect, of course.
(But please enlighten us as to how the insolvent Medicare for some can be expanded to Medicare for all)
Birk,
I can't keep leaving bread crumbs for you. Doesn't it sound like I'm suggesting that pros should use price data as well as quality of care info to make factual determinations?
What sorta group would do that sorta thing? Maybe it's not a group.
Just sayin'
adSs,
I understand you are arguing for keeping information away from the consumer.
I know that such a suggestion is asinine.
And your opinion is worthless to me on this, or really any issue I have yet to consider.
I am wondering at your motivation which is a purely internal - to you - dynamic.
I'm not wondering if you are a vile waste of human flesh, just why you are.
Birk,
Never eat adS's "breadcrumbs"..just sayin'.
OK Birk,
Maybe some sorta panel would work.
Any ideas? Yet?
I say we put men on it.
Top.
Men.
If you were a medical doctor, I could understand your motivation and your arrogance.
Of course if you were a college sophomore the same would apply.
Way off.
You forgot fat person in Mom's basement.
Funny how a real world experience gains no truck here.
adS wants a panle!
More folk to grift a consult fee..
Having been mildly prodded at times for myself, then later dragged through the spectrum for others, day to day care needs to be separated from the catastrophic.
So sad to see Medicare as a specific safety net only viable via cost shifting being foisted upon the ignorant as a comprehensive model
More grift.
Better graft.
Less information for the hoi pilloi.
What else does self shitter have?
The US spends about $9,000 per person on health care annually. In Russia, where healthcare is constitutionally guaranteed to each citizen, they spend about $1,500 per person on health care.
Clearly, in the US, we need Russian Medicare for all!
This is the modern Democrat tactic. It started with Reagan, tuned with HW Bush, and perfected with "W." Relentless chattering by malcontents driving poll numbers down.
Love Ann's last paragraph here.
The only time I ever see TV news is at the Y when I am on a treadmill and a bank of TV screens makes it hard to not notice CNN. I look up, see the very first word - "TRUMP. . ." every single time, take off my glasses so I cannot see more, and run my three miles. Very relaxing.
So what kind of shoes was the First lady wearing. I'm guessing they were appropriate or we'd
have been informed about them.
President Trump, accompanied by the always daring and stunning First Lady, made a surprise Christmas day visit to a US Air Force Base in war torn Iraq. Although such a trip has long been anticipated, the First Couple's sudden appearance on such a solemn day added to the joy and excitement exhibited by the troops. Speaking anonymously, the Base commander said he couldn't imagine a better morale boosting event even if they'd put a ration of speed in the mess.
Yea, it's amazing how the anti-Trump screeds have infiltrated every media outlet, even those that normally have nothing to do with politics. FFS, you'll be reading an audiophile article on speakers and buried in the article will be a slam on Trump.
When speaking of groundwater, the aquafers in this nation were a point of contention back in the 70s. The leaching of surface contaminants into them was widely reported to be taking place. Fertilizers and manufacturing wastes were the reported sources . Nary a peep since then. Back the agribusiness was the villain. Of course, Mother Earth News was pushing that VERY hard.
then
"Why did any of you bother to respond to "John?" He got whatever sick psychic need he neded to fulfill satisfied by your attention and left."
No, I think you're diagnosing 'Ritmo'/'Inga'/'Chuck' here rather than 'John'. I, the eternal optimist, will always give the benefit of doubt to anyone voicing a cri de coeur and attempt to help them sort out their jumbled emotions.
Admittedly, many such commenters ultimately disappoint me and reveal themselves to be beyond help, like the three mentioned above. But I am as Diogenes, holding my lamp, searching for that intelligent Trumpophobe who can actually sustain an argument.
Imagine a thousand "journalists" scoured every word uttered by President Obama over his career with the zeal and effort used on Trump. Further imagine them focused on any way to cherry pick words, change context, rise up armies of straw men and unnamed sources to contradict Obama. Now relentlessly broadcast or print every one of these contradictions in a way to say "LIAR!!!!!" (or insane person) for three years.
How does President Obama look now.
"Something that's a lot cooler than the WSJ or the WaPo is Santana - Soul Sacrifice 1969 "Woodstock" Live Video HQ. I never get tired of that video."
Story last night (12/27) at our belated family Christmas party. My 4th brother was working in Breckenridge, CO, in the later 1970s, and hitchhiking in from where he lived further north in the county. On one ride into Breckenridge, the driver asked if my brother knew who he was. Nope. Claimed to be Carlos Santana, supposedly going over to a house he had in South Park (the real one, on the other side of Hooser Pass from Breck - hippie haven at least since the late 1960s). After being dropped off there, my brother checked the record or CD covers in first music store he could find, and the driver who had picked him up sure looked like Santana.
Someone should do a research of the curriculum and pedagogical changes that have been put into place in Schools of Journalism throughout this country. This review should begin in 1980 and continue to this day. You will note that schools almost unanimously collapsed under pressure from the "left", a focus that omitted Who, What, Why, When, Where, and How from the core curriculum ideals. The new focus was to be a "community based source of information"--something akin to the bulletin board at your local grocery store. Investigation is GONE!! I know of one school of journalism that recently dropped it's requirement that students must attend the local city council meetings for one term. That would be approximately 4 evening meetings for 3 months--less of course the nights the city council doesn't meet which would be about 20%. This experience provides real insight to the operation of the local government, no longer deemed desirable by the women in charge of Journalism at this school.
Blogger John said..."The volume is great and it's more brazen. He has lied about things he's said on Twitter the day before."12/27/18, 9:16 AM
John, everything you said is pure opinion (your lies) and propoganda. The MSM is producing volumes of lies for your personal consumption on Trump. How would you know the difference. Did they also produce those same volume of lies by other Presidents - No. John produce a spreadsheet of Trump's lies and the last 10 Presidents this country had, then we might believe you. But you can't! Why, because your current lies are just as voluminous as you accuse of Trump - my opinion and my lies! Admitting that you lie about Trump is the first step to recovery, John.
How does President Obama look now.
Same as he always did; A stuttering clusterfuck of a miserable failure.
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