"... on how to claim credit and respect on an international stage where many leaders have looked down on him for years. But just as his famous 1987 book counseled, Trump’s global deal-making was as much about style as substance, with grandiose talk the most important ingredient of all. The president arrived back in Washington on Sunday feeling triumphant, believing his latest international trip to be a resounding success. During his overnight flight on Air Force One, Trump seemed vindicated after dealing with a long buildup of pressure to the summit in Argentina. 'It’s an incredible deal,' he told reporters of his agreement with China to temporarily pause new tariffs. 'It goes down, certainly — if it happens, it goes down as one of the largest deals ever made.'... But behind the veneer is a more complicated reality...."
From "The art of the G-20, by Donald Trump/After two years of pugnacious foreign relations, the president is finding new ways to claim dealmaking prowess in an international arena" (Politico).
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৩৩টি মন্তব্য:
The rulemaking is just negotiating and playing the opponents into mutually beneficial deals. In particular, sometimes with bad guys, beneficial to the opponent and his supporters, because that's how you make it beneficial to them.
The usual statesmen follow the state department line, namely whatever is beneficial to the state department.
Did the leaders of China and India tell him they were leaving, then meet with each other without his knowledge? Because that's what happened to Obama his first few years in office.
Chicago is out? Chicago is out?
It's amazing after all this time how many people still need a course in Trump 101. They're still bewildered by him, sure they smarter than him and just waiting for the anvil to drop and HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THE ANVIL HASN'T DROPPED YET???
Here's the difference between Trump and Obama at the negotiating table: Obama always knew how bad he needed a deal. Trump knows how bad his opponent needs a deal.
ah that never gets old, does it maybee,
The Brits (politicians and bureaucrats) have looked down on - in fact, scorned - Trump since the start of his run.
But if they had had him negotiate their Brexit - whatever they wanted: true Brexit, Brexit light, or BRINO - they would have come out on top, no question!
(Instead of getting peed on by the EU and laughed at by the entire world, which is what is happening now.)
The usual leftist crap. The writer thinks Trump is so naive that he won’t know if world leaders are playing up to him . How did he build a huge real estate company being such a sap. And why should the US care if Skippy Trudeau doesn’t like Trump. We’re the only superpower left Let them kiss our ass if they don’t like our president.
As they say, someday Trump will walk across the Potomac, and the Washington press will headline: "TRUMP CAN'T SWIM!"
Here's what you need to know:
Trump and Xi didn't walk out on their meeting.
Trump didn't say much to Prince Mohammed or Putin.
Trudeau didn't skip the signing ceremony for the North American trade deal.
Trump didn't Tweet anything inflammatory.
Merkel didn't go ice cold when Trump was around.
Trump didn't dis Macron.
And therefore Politico didn't know what to write.
Reminds me of Napoleon ruling the Grand Empire. And our Napoleon is smart enough not to go into war with Russia no matter how much the Globalists try get him to start one.
Trump’s rulebook is actually the winning rulebook according to game theory- be hawkish when your opponents are dovish.
Whatever Trump's flaws and debits, I'd have more trust in his bargaining skills when it comes to trade deals than most other politicians. I've got the sense that such things are in his wheelhouse. The inability of the media to offer conditioned acceptance of this area of strength serves more to undermine trust in their judgment than trust in Trump's bargaining skills.
Individual 1 is one heck of a President!
Seriously, Althouse; what real meaning does language have for you? Trump called NAFTA the worst deal in history. Now a new NAFTA is signed, which is simply a mutually-agreed updating, with some aspects that won’t even be accepted by some free- trading Republicans in the Senate, Trump is calling it one of the greatest deals in history.
The man is the biggest used car salesmen in American political history.
The bonus is China wasn’t buying pork because of the tariff dispute and a lot of their pigs got sick so....they’re going to buy US pork.
So long as the world buys our “used cars,” what’s the problem?
I’m sure there were some that NAFTA was for them the worst deal in history. Now it might not be for them. Or the US. No more sucking sound?
Yeah, why don't you wicked smaht guys enlighten us as to the complications behind the veneer.
"Trump called NAFTA the worst deal in history. Now a new NAFTA is signed, which is simply a mutually-agreed updating, with some aspects that won’t even be accepted by some free- trading Republicans in the Senate, Trump is calling it one of the greatest deals in history."
Someone with a liiittle more self-awareness might realize what's going on
It just dawned on me: mutually-agreed upon updating.
What did it take to become “mutually-agreed upon?
That would be impossible for him, free trade is one of those vizzini phrases
Chuck, what’s your point? He wanted a better deal. If some hyperbole helped get a better deal, then it did. You’d prefer a worse deal? You have beautifully encapsulted the failure of imagination that is lefty American politics. It is precisely the sense in which you are dumb that has you convinced of your brilliance.
What deal? Doing away with NAFTA? OR the "deal" with the Chinese?
Vicki from Pasadena
Some facts about Donald Trump's books:
- He has never written a book although twenty of so carry his name as author.
- His infamous "The Art of the Deal" was written entirely by Tony Schwartz according to Schwartz and the book's publisher, Howard Kaminsky.
- The stories contained in The Art of the Deal are figments of Trump's ego, heavily embellished by Schwartz's imagination and writing skill.
Trump's perceived trade deals are nothing burgers representing updated NAFTA language which changed very little and a supposed new "temporary" Tariff deal with the Chinese that resulted from Trump's unilateral raising of Tariffs. Prices have increased, inflation has followed and jobs are going south as reflected most recently in the latest GM announcement, Nary a word from the Trumpsters.
Economists representing the largest traders in the world worked long and hard to update international trade rules through the Trans Pacific Partnership Trade Agreement but someone told Trump it wasn't worthwhile so he scrapped it without question . As Forrest Gump's Mom always told him, "Stupid is as stupid does.
As for G-20, Donald just goes around pissing off people and bowing and scraping for VVP and MBS. The video of Putin high-fiving the Saudi prince was worth a thousand words.
Blogger Seeing Red said...
So long as the world buys our “used cars,” what’s the problem?
Ask GM about car sales. Could the problem possibly be steel and aluminum tariffs?
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gadfly said...
Ask GM about car sales. Could the problem possibly be steel and aluminum tariffs
If that is true, wouldn't all of the car makers in this country have the same problem as GM? They don't seem to be.
"Ask GM about car sales. Could the problem possibly be steel and aluminum tariffs?"
GM is what happens when you bail out the UAW instead of the bond holders. They were building polically correct cars no one wanted.
"Economists representing the largest traders in the world worked long and hard to update international trade rules through the Trans Pacific Partnership Trade Agreement "
"The finest minds"
This should have been your first clue. Econists representing the largest traders in the world came up with a deal to benefit the largest traders in the world.
Arev you really this dense?
tim maguire said...
Chuck, what’s your point? He wanted a better deal. If some hyperbole helped get a better deal, then it did. You’d prefer a worse deal? You have beautifully encapsulted the failure of imagination that is lefty American politics. It is precisely the sense in which you are dumb that has you convinced of your brilliance.
By accusing me of "lefty" politics when in fact I have never advocated a single leftist policy, you have beautifully encapsulated Trump Derangement Syndrome Derangement Syndrome.
My point is Trump's communication, which is why I addressed my original comment on this page to Althouse the way that I did. In TrumpWorld, the original NAFTA was the worst deal in history, while the updated NAFTA (for which Trump invented a new name to emphasize the point) is brilliant and great. In the real world, the new NAFTA is a carefully and moderately updated agreement that serves the interests of Canada and Mexico as well as the U.S. And since NAFTA is 25 years old, an update was widely viewed as a good thing. And nothing the update was Trump-revolutionary. And most importantly, nothing about it will fulfill Trump's overblown claims about he can personally deliver manufacturing jobs to the United States.
“and moderately updated agreement that serves the interests of Canada and Mexico as well as the U.S.”
So, new and improved? Got it. Your “perfect world” schtick is laughable, Chuck.
Cracker I didn't engage in any "perfect world schtick." I wasn't the guy employing a laughable degree of hyperbole. Trump was that guy. Trump was using phraseology like "the single worst deal ever approved" for the original NAFTA, which now serves as the basis for the renewed deal. Which is now a "great deal" in Trumpspeak.
I am the moderate here. I am the guy who was saying that NAFTA was on balance a really good deal for American trade, and after 25 years it needed tweaking, and tweaking is what we got. I may even be understating it. Senator Pat Toomey (R-PA) is saying that he'll oppose ratification in its current form. He's one of the most free-trading Republicans in the Senate and he might represent a tipping point for any rapid ratification of the deal.
Chuck makes a good point about political exaggeration: Trump calls NAFTA terrible and then negotiates some tweaks and updates and calls it wonderful. Both of those things can't be true :)
But then gadfly comes along and ruins it by doing the same thing. Now everything Trump does is the opposite of wonderful. And once again, truth is the casualty.
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