"... as soon as Tuesday night, and the fires have primed the soil for another disaster that can claim yet more lives.... The problem is a fundamental change to the soil itself. When a wildfire burns vegetation, it releases organic compounds.... This soil normally absorbs water, but the organic compounds turn it hydrophobic, literally meaning 'fear of water.' It is not an understatement: You can pour a bottle of water on this burned soil and it’ll bead right off, as if the dirt were polished marble... Problem number two: vegetation anchors the soil.... The debris flow can carry boulders and trees along with mud, making it more dangerous than a regular flood or a dry landslide.... Boulders can also act like a moving dam, retarding the flow..... If you haven’t cleared out in time and the flow comes, the recommendation is to shelter in place—moving to the upper story of your house, for instance. Out on the streets is exactly where you don't want to be, as the flow follows those paths...."
From "California Fire Survivors Brace for Debris-Filled Mudslides" (Wired).
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OMG! A word literally means something!
Plus, a breathless report on a phenomenon that everybody already knows about!
The four seasons of California:
Fire
Mudslide
Earthquake
Riot
The ice menace so far is not a problem.
Lars, I'm stealing that. I hope you don't mind.
So, the burnt spoil becomes rabid?
Seems it never rains in southern California
Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before
It never rains in California, but girl don't they warn ya
It pours, man it pours
Albert Hammond said that.
Don’t say “retarding.”
I'm sure am glad California has solved as these problems before spending money on high speed rail.
We have this picture of a gentle stream eroding the grand canyon over time.
Twas not so - it was the spring floods picking up boulders and smashing them against the ground and confining banks.
If not for the damming of that river it'd be, IIRC, about 100ft deeper now than it is.
Look for some good erosion around the rivers of Cali.
-XC
Once upon a time, Americans would have viewed these trials as evidence of divine judgment.
The debris flow can carry boulders and trees along with mud, making it more dangerous than a regular flood or a dry landslide...
When the debris flow starts carrying sharks along with the mud, let me know. Until then, this ain't got nothin' on a sharknado.
It means some of them will leave and infect places where normal people live.
It's like Old Man Quigley told Archie Bunker @21:12:
"A rolling stone... can give you a hell of a bruise."
Not to worry, the Democrat party controls California. I'm sure they'll fix things. I don't know about you guys but when I think of terms like "competency", "problem solving", "efficiency", and the opposite of corrupt... I think of Democrats.
Next, in Wired: "As the snow falls on the streets, a new menace is emerging: Potholes."
This is going to be pretty bad. It rains a LOT in Paradise due to the location on the East side of the Sacramento Valley, elevation, and terrain.
The year before I moved away from Paradise, we had 106 inches of rain/precipitation including a small amount of snow. 106 inches of rain
It never seemed to stop. It was horrible. I felt like the character in the Illustrated Man where if I just turned my face to the sky, I could drown. The Long Rain
Don't worry. Howard the educated fool will be alone any minute now to explain that water flows downhill, but only because of gravity.
Or some other non sequitur.
Just imagine Southern/Northern California after a 8-9 Richter earthquake if you want a vision of the apocalypse.
Not an impressive prediction. This *just* happened around Santa Barbara/Montecito after the Thomas fire. This is not really SoCal's rainy season but as for the bay area, sure, it will rain.
But someday you'll be able to take a high speed train from somewhere to somewhere else.
If California were discovered today, it would be declared off-limits to settlement because of all the danger. But it's not too late. Turn the state into a National Park and throw the invaders out. (And throw out the Natives, too. That's what always happens when you create a national park.)
Expat(ish),
The Colorado River has made it down to very strong rock that does not erode easily. The Grand Canyon would not be much deeper today if the River had never been dammed.
Once upon a time, Americans would have viewed these trials as evidence of divine judgment
This disaster is occurring in the portion of California filled with Deplorables. Blaming them for their fate just seems cruel.
Its not because of global warming - er I mean Climate Change - It is because some
people are skeptics. It is my fault - er I meant their fault.
It's interesting to see how many assholes there are who think it clever to make witless jokes about the misery and misfortune of people they don't even know.
“Just imagine Southern/Northern California after a 8-9 Richter earthquake if you want a vision of the apocalypse.”
Or, maybe just a good start.
“It's interesting to see how many assholes there are who think it clever to make witless jokes about the misery and misfortune of people they don't even know.”
I am trying to fit in something about a Darwin Award here.
I am trying to fit in something about a Darwin Award here.
As I alluded to above, the disaster area, like vast portions of California, are inhabited by people indistinguishable from the rest of Red America. Start here if you are the kind of person who requires a map before you can decide whether you should feel empathy for your fellow Americans.
“It's interesting to see how many assholes there are who think it clever to make witless jokes about the misery and misfortune of people they don't even know.”
Likewise all the Jerry Browns of the world using the misery and misfortune of people to make a purely political jab.
Robert Cook said...
It's interesting to see how many assholes there are who think it clever to make witless jokes about the misery and misfortune of people they don't even know.
Is that like mentioning someone supports the NRA right after they get shot.
California is being run by corrupt grifters. It is no wonder the place is turning into a shithole.
That's not a new phenomena. That was a fact of life when I was growing up in Pasadena during the 60's.
Cf John McPhee s "Control of Nature". 3 long essays.
Lava, Mississippi floods, fire and debris slides in SoCal.
I seem to recall that when I lived in Southern California it only rained once a year. It rained for 3 months straight, but only once a year. If you planned a camping trip in June, July, or August, bringing raingear was a waste of space. It wasn't going to rain. No rain during the summer wan't a drought like it is here in CNY. It was the weather forecast.
Expat(ish) said...
We have this picture of a gentle stream eroding the grand canyon over time.
Twas not so - it was the spring floods picking up boulders and smashing them against the ground and confining banks.
If not for the damming of that river it'd be, IIRC, about 100ft deeper now than it is.
If not for the diversion of flow to create power, Niagara Falls would be most of the way to being Niagara Rapids by now. Nothing to do with the topic at hand, but modern man harnessing nature does have quite an effect on some things.
The rake says rake
the secret secret is: it's not the drought (lack of rain) that's California's problem; it's the Rain
Shell Wyoming (a nice little town) receives (according to the resident that talked to me,) 2 inches of precipitation a year... in the form of snow.
You know what problems they DON'T have in Shell? Wildfires. Nope, not going to happen.
Rain makes Plants Grow, Rain makes Hills Flow. In a nice safe desert, things stay put.
{not like those terrible nasty deserts like they have in Arizona. You know another problem they don't have in Shell? Flash Floods}
Robert Cook said...
It's interesting to see how many assholes there are who think it clever to make witless jokes about the misery and misfortune of people they don't even know.
If you are referring to me, I actually do know these people. My heart aches for them.
But I think the government of California badly mismanages its resources, both financial and natural. A coastal state always in drought. Billions or trillions being spent on a train boondoggle instead of fending off this kind of misery and misfortune.
@Maybee, Cookie emotes over these people, but he doesn’t actually care about them.
Heh...time to make like Lex Luthor and invest in property on the land flanking the San Andreas Fault to the east...
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