Althouse: Trump is "sort of... like a ship — you just keep going

June 15, 2018

Trump is "sort of... like a ship — you just keep going — bing bing."

69 comments:

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: The Titanic was a ship.; 6/15/18, 7:02 PM
JohnAnnArbor said...: I'm surprised you didn't pick the Bismarck.; 6/15/18, 7:05 PM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: Trump's not a Nazi, just poorly designed.; 6/15/18, 7:07 PM
Michael K said...: ARM is letting his potential presidential assassin out.

Maybe he's the battle ship Missouri where the surrender was signed.; 6/15/18, 7:14 PM
Ann Althouse said...: ARM, why the violent ideation?; 6/15/18, 7:15 PM
readering said...: Shipwreck such an esoteric metaphor.; 6/15/18, 7:21 PM
Bill, Republic of Texas said...: The Titanic was a ship

Now that's funny. And first comment too! That ladies and gentlemen is why he is a beloved commenter.; 6/15/18, 7:23 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/15/18, 7:36 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Well, there’s The Good Ship Lollypop, a much more peasant thought than the Titanic hitting the iceberg. No more negativity people!

I’ve thrown away my toys,
Even my drums and trains,
I want to make some noise,
with real live airplanes.
Some day I'm going to fly,
I'll be a pilot to,
and when I do,
how would you,
like to be my crew?
On the good ship
lollipop
its a sweet trip
to the candy shop
where bon-bon's play,
on the sunny beach
of peppermint bay
Lemonade stands,
everywhere
crackerjack bands,
fill the air,
and there you are,
happy landings on a chocolate bar.
See the sugar bowl
do a tootsie roll
in a big bad devils food cake,
if you eat too much,
oh, oh,
you'll awake,
with a tummy ache.
On the good ship
lollipop
its a nice trip,
in to bed you hop,
and dream away,
on the good ship
lollipop; 6/15/18, 7:38 PM
Luke Lea said...: He is a phenomenon. One man takes on the world. Whatever they fear, and however he turns out, those who hate him need not fear there will ever be another politician like him.; 6/15/18, 7:38 PM
Achilles said...: 4.8% growth, constantly falling unemployment, first real wage growth for the middle class in decades, ending wars.

It is no wonder the leftists are frothing mad.

They hate Americans.; 6/15/18, 7:57 PM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: Double A,
I know you could ask all too frequently,
but why now?; 6/15/18, 7:59 PM
Achilles said...: His first answer was spot on.

The rank and file in the FBI support him.

The 7th floor needs to be purged.

People that support spying on political opponents need to be driven out and humiliated/jailed.; 6/15/18, 7:59 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: I just read that Canada is considering using the Magnistsky Act (yes they have one too) against Trump. It allows travel bans and asset freezes on foreign leaders. The Canadian Parliamentarians say they’d rather go after the Trump Administration than do anything to affect the American people negatively.

Sounds like they want to sink the Ship of State; 6/15/18, 8:07 PM
Bill, Republic of Texas said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/15/18, 8:17 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Magnitsky.; 6/15/18, 8:17 PM
tcrosse said...: The crew of the Hesperus is heard from.; 6/15/18, 8:24 PM
madAsHell said...: This is what leadership looks like!!

I can't do it, but I know what it looks like!!; 6/15/18, 8:40 PM
Comanche Voter said...: I tend to think of Commander Lawson P. "Red" Ramage, commander of the USS Parche who surfaced his submarine in the middle of a Japanese convoy at night on July 31, 1944. He proceeded to torpedo the bejabbers out of half a dozen ships disrupting not one, but two convoys. His actions included a "down the throat" shot which sunk a freighter that was trying to ram his submarine. He got a Congressional Medal of Honor for that action and retired 20 years late as an admiral.

Trump disrupts the press; he disrupts the conventional media wisdom put out by the alumni of the Obama loving Journolist. He'll hit the fake media below the waterline--and may even give a few down the throat shots to such as Jim Acosta.; 6/15/18, 8:46 PM
traditionalguy said...: The USS Constitution redux. Old Ironsides takes hot shot from CNN and laughs.

Better yet, the USS Missouri where our Commander-in Chief takes the NORK's surrender. Many surrenders of domestic enemies coming soon.

The latest intel drops say the entire Obama Administration used Gmail accounts set up by Eric Schmidt to let Obama's inner circle ( Muslim Brotherhood) use Drafting an email message they never sent but left open to the others to read in draft and reply in draft, has been captured. The dummies planed their entire Treasonous destruction of the USA on it.

And that is why Hillary gets to laugh at the FBI and Obama's minions who did the same thing she did.

Suddenly the 35,000 sealed Federal Indictments that Session's boys have done with a Federal Grand Jury over the last 15 months make perfect sense. And the deluge of CEO deaths and resignations and suicides since 12/21/2017 make sense.; 6/15/18, 8:50 PM
Michael K said...: Canada is about the size and influence of California.

They can do as they like. Don't expect results, though.

Something the fool would think of.; 6/15/18, 8:50 PM
Jupiter said...: Ann Althouse said...
"ARM, why the violent ideation?"

Not fair. ARM did not praise the iceberg. A reasonable man (or person) might suppose the metaphor was failure, or even tragic loss.; 6/15/18, 8:55 PM
narciso said...: If Canada were to do that, they would surely tupolev themselves (like the sub commander hunting the red october); 6/15/18, 8:55 PM
Jupiter said...: Inga said...
"Magnitsky."

Shut up, Igna. Just shut up. Do you think you are the only person on Earth who has access to google? I grasp that you can't be expected to have original ideas of your own. But that does not mean that you are performing a service by cutting and pasting quotes that you don't even understand, but somehow imagine are telling blows in your argument with reality.; 6/15/18, 8:58 PM
elkh1 said...: Canada is considering using the Magnistsky Act (yes they have one too) against Trump. It allows travel bans and asset freezes on foreign leaders.

Trump: Make my day.

Btw, what has Trump done? Exposing them as hypocrites who impose over 200% tariff on our dairy products and expect us to give them a free pass? For that they freeze his assets? They really take things personal, don't they? I think we can freeze their assets too: their snow birds sanctuaries in Florida.

Btw, Trump isn't going to Canada on his Air Force One in the next couple of years. So Canadians, just say you ban him, if that makes you feel better.; 6/15/18, 8:59 PM
narciso said...: And the Lord marshal of the supreme court will install Orrin hatch snorfle.; 6/15/18, 9:02 PM
Seeing Red said...: Stop the Canadian snowbirds from traveling and using the doctors in Florida. Please.; 6/15/18, 9:07 PM
Birkel said...: Canada banning Trump when Trump is not planning to visit makes perfect sense. That's exactly the BIGLY sort of concession given to North Korea when Trump cancelled next year's "War Games" staged by Matthew Broderick. Watch out for the WOPR.

I enjoy watching all the lawfare the Democrats are throwing at Trump. He's not Sarah Palin. He has the means to fight.

And economic growth and a Republican Congress.; 6/15/18, 9:10 PM
Paul said...: Thing about Trump is he is honest and forthright when he talks. Talks strait.

Most politicians coach their words. They parse their sentences so it all becomes a mealy mouth of nothingness.

Trump, on the other hand, says what he is thinking. And that bothers lots of people in Washington.; 6/15/18, 9:11 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Shut up Inga. Just shut up. Do you think you are the only person on Earth who has access to google? I grasp that you can't be expected to have original ideas of your own. But that does not mean that you are performing a service by cutting and pasting quotes that you don't even understand, but somehow imagine are telling blows in your argument with reality.”

I didn’t cut and paste a thing Jupiter, except for the lyrics of The Good Ship Lollypop, which I hope you thoroughly enjoyed.; 6/15/18, 9:16 PM
Darrell said...: More Canadians like Trump than they do Trudeau. You'll see that in the next election there. Sparkle the Pony is going down. Maybe they don't have TV on the Canadian Air Force 1. Or they don't even have a Canadian Air Force 1.; 6/15/18, 9:16 PM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: I used to sing the Good Ship Lollypop song to my kids if they were being very bratty, sassy, or having a melt down, we still laugh about it all these years later.; 6/15/18, 9:21 PM
Big Mike said...: Trump does not suffer fools and idiots, like Justin Trudeau, and if he was climbing the political ladder from PTA chairman through House of Delegates to Congress and Senator or Governor before running for President, this tendency would have knocked him off the ladder early in the climb. But he started at the very top, which makes him unique among presidents.; 6/15/18, 9:22 PM
Big Mike said...: Almost unique — let’s not forget Teddy Roosevelt.; 6/15/18, 9:25 PM
narciso said...: Teddy Malloy a distant relative of old bull moose, noted the resemblance.; 6/15/18, 9:29 PM
Earnest Prole said...: Trump is more like the spawn of the Kool Aid Man and Big Fig Newton, but ship works too.; 6/15/18, 9:34 PM
narciso said...: Malloch one of the fellow Mueller shanghaied like a modern day privateer.; 6/15/18, 9:34 PM
Birkel said...: And now I want a fig newton.
Crap!; 6/15/18, 10:28 PM
Quaestor said...: And first comment too!

ARM, a man with no life other than to lurk at Althouse's front door.; 6/15/18, 10:36 PM
Bay Area Guy said...: Trump certainly rubs some folks the wrong way.

The question is, Is it Trump or is it them?; 6/15/18, 10:41 PM
FrankiM said...: Trump is more like Moby Dick than the Pequod.; 6/15/18, 10:58 PM
gadfly said...: Trump posts this misrepresentation of the deliberate separation of parents and children at the Mexican border by Trump's ICE.

President had a confusing heap of crap posted on the White House website after his oft-repeated lie about a Democrat law that required family separation was not on the books. General Sessions, it seems, proclaimed the policy change in April.

"CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS’ FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY: Too many American families have been permanently separated from loved ones lost to illegal alien crime." HUH??? American families and illegal alien crime??; 6/15/18, 11:42 PM
Drago said...: gadfly (struggling.....LOL): "HUH??? American families and illegal alien crime?"

Yes gadfly. American citizens who are murdered or incapacitated by the actions of illegal aliens are permanently separated from their loved ones.

But those are just horrible, deplorable, terrible American citizens and they deserved it.; 6/15/18, 11:49 PM
narciso said...: So why were they doing it in 2014, or,as with fast and furious it doesn't matter what procedures are followed?; 6/15/18, 11:50 PM
Achilles said...: gadfly said...
Trump posts this misrepresentation of the deliberate separation of parents and children at the Mexican border by Trump's ICE.

President had a confusing heap of crap posted on the White House website after his oft-repeated lie about a Democrat law that required family separation was not on the books. General Sessions, it seems, proclaimed the policy change in April.

"CONGRESSIONAL DEMOCRATS’ FAMILY SEPARATION POLICY: Too many American families have been permanently separated from loved ones lost to illegal alien crime." HUH??? American families and illegal alien crime??

Democrats are sure all hot and bothered about illegals at the border being mistreated.

Especially the children being separated from illegal child traffic... err... their parents.

Keep running with that. Please.

All of the way through November.

It is a sure winner.; 6/16/18, 12:48 AM
grackle said...: The Canadian Parliamentarians say they’d rather go after the Trump Administration than do anything to affect the American people negatively. Sounds like they want to sink the Ship of State

It’s difficult to sink a Ship of State when all you have is a Canadian Canoe full of “Parliamentarians.”; 6/16/18, 1:13 AM
Ann Althouse said...: "Not fair. ARM did not praise the iceberg. A reasonable man (or person) might suppose the metaphor was failure, or even tragic loss."

Let's test the theory that saying something about a violent end meeting a person is not violent ideation as long as there's no praise for the thing that brings the end.

Your friend says "I love the beach, I'm going to the beach" and your first reaction is "Lots of sharks there."

Your child says "I'm so excited about going trick or treating!" And you say, "Remember the people who put razor blades in the candy."

A politician about to go out to give a speech exclaims over the size of the crowd, and you say "There was that time Robert F. Kennedy had such a great time with a big victory speech, then right there on the spot got shot in the head."; 6/16/18, 5:49 AM
Ann Althouse said...: This reminds me of the analysis of whether it counts as a true threat to say "Nice family you got there. It'd be a shame if anything happened to them."; 6/16/18, 5:51 AM
Ann Althouse said...: But to say "The Titanic was a ship" is a little different from talking about the iceberg. It refers to the seeming invincibility of the ship and the fact that it actually was vulnerable to a relatively common and predictable danger. That's a problem with the ship and perhaps with Trump: He thinks he's so big and so great and nothing can stop him, but that image of bigness and unstoppability is deceptive, as we know from the Titanic.

But Trump has already been tested with many, many icebergs, so he deserves a better analogy. Yeah, the big ship could go down, but pick another ship that after many dangerous voyages, finally went down.; 6/16/18, 5:56 AM
ga6 said...: "One ping only Vasily"; 6/16/18, 6:08 AM
Meade said...: Like a starship. U.S.S. Enterprise.

Bing... Bing...; 6/16/18, 6:32 AM
Darrell said...: This comment has been removed by the author.; 6/16/18, 6:43 AM
Darrell said...: I had relatives that went down on the Titanic and came up on the Andrea Doria.; 6/16/18, 6:44 AM
Darrell said...: Bing... Bing...

Trump smart enough to piss off Google.; 6/16/18, 6:45 AM
Bill, Republic of Texas said...: Lighten up Francis. Maybe Titanic is just a shorthand for disaster.; 6/16/18, 7:19 AM
Inga...Allie Oop said...: Some might say Plato’s Ship of Fools allegory is fitting. Not I though, I’m eshewing any negativity toward Trump.; 6/16/18, 7:25 AM
Birkel said...: gadfly is very concerned about all the women who are incarcerated for their law breaking who cannot take their children with them.

Of course, that's been the case for the last several hundred years.; 6/16/18, 7:27 AM
Michael McNeil said...: But to say "The Titanic was a ship" is a little different from talking about the iceberg. It refers to the seeming invincibility of the ship and the fact that it actually was vulnerable to a relatively common and predictable danger.

Analogies are of course suspect, but even taking this (brain-damaged!) one seriously….

The Titanic as built actually was relatively invulnerable even to the “relatively common and predictable danger” of an iceberg. It was only because the captain — upon glimpsing the 'berg up ahead in the ship's path during the night — ordered the engines reversed (too late) as well as the rudder turned hard-over in an attempt to avoid the 'berg, that the Titanic's doom was really sealed.

That's what led to the ship sliding, scraping past the iceberg — bursting and slicing open “water-proof” compartment after compartment after compartment.

If, contrariwise, nothing had been done once the iceberg was sighted — and the ship therefore plowed into the 'berg head-on at top speed — the Titanic almost certainly wouldn't have sunk.; 6/16/18, 7:42 AM
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...: To describe a mild joke as violent ideation is something of stretch, even here. What happened to civility bullshit?; 6/16/18, 8:04 AM
Birkel said...: We should ask Steve Scalise.; 6/16/18, 8:07 AM
Michael K said...: gadfly needs to go right to the birder and offer to adopt those families being separated.

Posting hysterical comments on a blog will just not do it.

Go, gaddy ! You'll feel better after.; 6/16/18, 8:30 AM
mezzrow said...: Trump has already been tested with many, many icebergs, so he deserves a better analogy. Yeah, the big ship could go down, but pick another ship that after many dangerous voyages, finally went down.

Why do the words Lusitania and fuse come to mind? To push a metaphor far too far, what will finally go off when Trump's fuse finally runs out? If he goes down, he'll have to have been torpedoed, even if he does it to himself. I think this less likely than I'd have thought a year ago. There's a gracious plenty of torpedoes in the water by now, for sure.; 6/16/18, 10:27 AM
gbarto said...: I disagree with ARM on almost everything. But his comment was the perfect response if you're going for snark. As a lover of clever rejoinders I tip my cap.; 6/16/18, 10:45 AM
Ingachuck'stoothlessARM said...: 0bama's boat went
Bong! Bong!; 6/16/18, 11:07 AM
langford peel said...: What's the difference between Bill Clinton and the Titanic?

Only 1500 people went down on the Titanic.; 6/16/18, 1:42 PM
bagoh20 said...: If Trump is a ship, then many truely hope it sinks along with all on board. Some might regret that collateral damage, but feel it worth the price, and others would consider it a bonus. We know this is true, don't we, and isn't that just lovely?; 6/16/18, 2:09 PM
bagoh20 said...: Boaty McBoatface; 6/16/18, 2:10 PM
cf said...: This relaxed, Top-of-his-Game Commanding Performance is astonishing. And then he follows with the second "feast" that Althouse posts next where our Incredible President is besieged by a gaggle of Grrrl voices, the new Hegemony, and he coaches them like an orchestral conductor in rehearsal. All Live, impromptu, "unprepared"?!!!

At what point, praytell, will Cognitive Dissonance shake alt/neo-liberals so good it rattles the scales off their eyes and ears?; 6/16/18, 10:08 PM
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