April 16, 2018

Reading the Comey interview transcript, I get a "Cat Person" vibe.

From the transcript, here's Comey describing his conflicted, confusing feelings about that encounter on the evening of January 27, 2017:
JAMES COMEY: ... and so I said, "Sir, whatever you-- whatever you like." And he said, "Well, why don't we make it 6:30?" And I said, "Sure." And then I called Patrice, broke our date, and-- as luck had it, I had-- an encounter with Clapper, who had left the government but we were giving him a recognition as honorary F.B.I. agent. And I told him about this invitation and he told-- comforted me by saying, "Yeah, I've heard lots of other people are getting calls to come for dinner." 
He comforted me...
And so then in my head I was-- "Okay, so it's a group thing. He must be having a group thing tonight, a group thing tomorrow night. That's fine." And so I went over there expecting-- a crowd of people.
And so then in my head I was... I feel as though I'm reading a #MeToo story told by a young woman. Why didn't he say "I thought..." like a plain-spoken adult? It's like the inside of his head is an environment with moods and wisps of cognition. He's invited into a private space, he has his trepidations, but other people will be there, and he's hoping he won't be alone with the man.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: And what did you find?

JAMES COMEY: I stood in the entrance to the green room, which is next to the blue room, and chatted with two Navy stewards who were there.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: This is the residence?

JAMES COMEY: Yeah, in the residence. And looked around the room and quickly saw that all the furniture had been moved in the-- in the center of the room. There was a small oval table and there were only two chairs and I could see two place cards. And I could see from where I was standing, one said, "Director Comey." I assume the other was the president. And so that's when I knew that it wasn't a group dinner to get to know the leaders of our different agencies, that it was just the two of us.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: What did you think was going on?

JAMES COMEY: Something that made me uncomfortable and my best intuition at that point was it's part of an effort to make me part of the team, to make me “amica nostra.” And that it made me deeply uncomfortable. And so I just waited. There was no-- there was no saying no at this point.
See what I mean? It's totally "Cat Person." He's entered a private space where he intuits what the man is expecting and he's "uncomfortable" but somehow drawn along by the other person's expectations and — without access to his own values and preferences and powers — imagines that he cannot say no and must simply proceed forward into the situation that is making him uncomfortable. I feel like I'm reading about a 20-year-old female fictional character. Is this what the inside of Comey's head looks like or is this some psychological narrative concocted, with ghostwriting help, for the American reading public?

The "amica nostra" business is his idea that Trump behaves like a Mafia boss. "Amica" means "friend" in Italian. So does "amico." "Amica" is the female form.
And the president showed up and had me sit down...
He "had" you sit down. He doesn't even sit down on his own power! So pliable, going along with the orders of the big man.
... and it turned out just to be the two of us and that the purpose of the meeting, the dinner was for him to extract from him a promise of loyalty. That instinct was right, it was to make me a friend of ours.
"Make me a friend of ours" sounds weird, but it's the Mafia idea again. Comey simply sitting down to a dinner for 2, but he's trying to depict a scary aura of compulsion. Comey is reading the other man's mind and hyper-aware of what that man wants on this occasion.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: As you were witting [sic] with him, he-- he was just getting used to the trappings of--

JAMES COMEY: Yeah.

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: --of the White House?
Stephanopoulos is humanizing Trump: Trump had his uncertainties too. That's counterpoint to Comey's effort to present Trump as the Mafia boss, who knew exactly how to exercise power.
JAMES COMEY: I think he was. I think he was. He-- he was-- he took on-- on the plates was a card-- a calligraphy card, so-- very nice script. You always see these at the White House. And it listed the menu for the dinner we were about to have. And so he-- I remember, he held his up and said, "They write these by hand." And I said, "A calligrapher?" And he kind of gave me this look and he said, "They write them by hand." And so I-- I kinda let it go. And-- and then he talked about-- one of the things he said was how luxurious the White House was, the residence. And he said, "I-- and I know luxury." And-- which I credit. And-- he said, "It's-- it's really beautiful."
Comey is, I think, implying that Trump didn't understand the word "calligrapher." The 2 men are on different wavelengths — Comey, interested in an art form (calligraphy) and Trump, noticing that a person did work by hand (the human touch).
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: How long did it take to get down to business?

JAMES COMEY: Not long. I think it was probably during the salad, before the shrimp scampi.
I laughed heartily at this point, watching it on TV. Stephanopoulos asked about time and Comey told the time in terms of food courses, as if we know where in the order of things the salad appears. But I guess "shrimp scampi" was the entree, so the salad came somewhere in the beginning, but was there a soup course? An appetizer? And it's also funny for a man who just acted pretentious about he word "calligrapher" to say "shrimp scampi," especially when he's inserting Italian phrases like "amica nostra." "Scampi" just means "shrimp," and educated people are supposed to know that you're saying "shrimp shrimp" and that's silly.
He redirected the conversation-- I think we started talking about how the beautiful the White House was. He redirected the conversation by saying, "So what do you want to do?" And I kinda gave him this look...
No words, just "this look." Why couldn't he say something forthright? Why not make a connection to Trump and show him something about how you think of your work? Why is he so passive, so wary? If the idea is to stand strong on principles and traditions, why not let that show in a real and honest way at this point? I think this is where he lost Trump. Trump had to take the lead...
... and then he explained what he meant. And he said, "You know, a lot of people would want to be F.B.I. director and given all you've gone through, I would understand if you want to walk away but it would look like you'd done something wrong if you did that. But I figured I should meet with you and-- and see what you want to do," which was really odd because I think, by that point, at least three times, he had said he hoped I was staying and looked forward to working with me. But there was no acknowledgment of that.
... and then Comey just found it "really odd." What seems odd to me is how awkward and passive Comey is. Even in Comey's own telling, he seems inert:  he's waiting to follow instructions and trying to please a man he feels no connection to. Comey doesn't come across here as the embodiment of FBI tradition and integrity. He seems like a man hoping to hold onto his job and unsure how to make that happen, hoping to be told what to do. He's so wary, and I assume Trump did not like him or trust him.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Do you think he wanted you to walking away [sic]?

JAMES COMEY: No. No, I think he wanted me to say, "Sir, I'd very much like to continue to serve and be your F.B.I. director." And then he would say, "Okay, but I need loyalty, I expect loyalty," which is exactly what he did say, the-- the second part. So I think it was about-- again, this is just a guess but it's an educated guess, that someone had told him or he had concluded that he gave the F.B.I. director job away for free by telling this guy you hope he's going to stay. You oughta get him in front of you and make sure he's a friend of ours. And-- and have him promise he's going to be loyal, 'cause the F.B.I. is a dangerous organization.
And that's the weather inside the cranium of James Comey. He talks so much about how Trump felt, but he's revealing how he himself felt and what kind of man he is. For all his rectitude and sermonizing, there is something needy and pliable about Comey.

Why did he do anything he didn't choose to do? Why did he fail to speak forthrightly? If Trump really said "Okay, but I need loyalty, I expect loyalty," I wonder if Trump wasn't giving him a test to see if he was a weak man or if he offered a substantial counterweight to presidential power.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Why not say no?
Exactly! Let's see how the head of the FBI answers:
JAMES COMEY: That's a fair question. I think because I was caught totally by surprise. 
Cat Person!
And again, I'm operating in an environment where I don't want-- I'm going to be director for another six years. This man's the new president of the United States, I do not need a war with him. I have to find a way to work with this administration and protect the values of the F.B.I. 
Why not just forthrightly explain what the FBI stands for and let the consequences follow? Why make yourself weak for the President? Why think that's what the President wanted? You don't have to find a way to work for him! You can stand on principle — you who want to be Mr. Principle today — and let him decide if he wants to keep you or not. Maybe if you'd done that he would have kept you.
And so-- and part of it was just sheer surprise. I couldn't think of a clever response. 
Why would you need a clever response?! Stand on your rock-solid principles. That was the time. That was the test. You failed right then, so don't preen now.
And by the second time he came back to it, he didn't respond at all. We just stared at each other and then he went on eating. 
How awkward. Why couldn't he talk to the President? He's staring?!
And then he came back to-- he didn't-- he noticed that I didn't answer. He came back to it later in the dinner. And by then, I had my wits about me and had a better answer. 
So before, he didn't have his "wits about" him. Later, he had his wits, and he could think of something clever enough to make speaking an option.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: What was the second time?

JAMES COMEY: The second time was later in the conversation. He said, again, "I need loyalty." And I said, "You will always get honesty from me." And he paused and then he said, "Honest loyalty," as if he was proposing some compromise or a deal. And I paused and said, "You'll get that from me."
Well, then, you made the deal. You went ahead with what you felt was expected, even though you felt queasy about it the whole time.
And, of course, in between those two-- the loyalty sandwich, in between those two, I had-- I had an opportunity to explain to him the F.B.I.'s role and how important it was for the F.B.I. to be independent and how I thought about it.
He's almost incoherent here — "the loyalty sandwich, in between those two...." But I guess this means he managed to get out some words about his principles, even as he ate the shit sandwich, which might have happened after the shrimp shrimp and before the dessert.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: But did you cross a line there-- did you cross a line when you promised him honest loyalty? Did-- would it be fair for him to think, "Wait, I have a deal here."
Yes, you made a deal and then you violated it. You called it a deal. If it's a deal, why didn't you keep it? It's incoherent to say, because it violated principle, since it violates principle to break a deal.
JAMES COMEY: Yeah, I-- I don't think so. Given the context and the other things I'd said, I thought-- and look, it was a compromise on my part to try and avoid a really awkward conversation, get out of an awkward conversation.
Why were you so awkward? From my point of view, it seems as though it would have been easy to have a conversation, if you were devoted to principle and knew who you were and had integrity from the very start and had spoken with clarity and straightforwardness. Even after all this time and while posing as the embodiment of lofty values, Comey looks weak, confused, and dithering.
GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Was it a mistake?
A mistake to make the deal?
JAMES COMEY: Yeah, I don't know. But-- maybe, maybe. 
Still dithering!
And maybe I should've said in the moment, "Sir, as I told you, the F.B.I. has to be--" and then give him the speech again, maybe. But-- and so maybe I should've been-- yeah, that's fair feedback. Maybe I should've been tougher or more direct, especially given what I know now.
Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe! Of course he should have been tougher and more direct! That's obvious, and if he had, Trump might have liked him.
At the time, I obviously couldn't see the future. But given what I know now, maybe it would've been better to give a more explicit-- say, "Sir, I can't promise you loyalty. Given the nature of my role, I can promise you I always tell you the truth," which I had already told him. "That's my role. And that I'm not part of it."
That would have been perfectly easy to say at the time.
I should've given that whole speech then. But in the moment, frankly, it didn't occur to me. 
Cat Person! Somehow, his own mind was too fuzzy to see and it didn't even occur to him that he had preferences and he could just say what they were.
And I-- maybe I didn't have the guts to do it. I wanted to get out of this conversation without compromising myself. 
Well, that didn't happen.
And I felt like, given all I've told him already, he has to understand what I mean by honest loyalty and he's kidding himself if he thinks I just promised that I'm-- I'm “amica nostra.” But-- in hindsight, you're probably right. I probably should have done it differently.
Probably. Even now — flogging a book flaunting integrity — he won't forthrightly say: I had the power to clearly state what was right and wrong and I just didn't have the presence of mind to figure out what it was. I was lost in a fog and imagining the man to be dominating me when in fact, I could have said no and walked away. I did what was put in front of me, and I didn't even do it well. I did it so lamely and awkwardly that I inspired no trust, even though I compromised myself trying to hold on to what I'm finally realizing I didn't even want.

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narciso said...

In other news Muellers fbi was investigating fmr cia director Michael Hayden re the stuixtnet leak.

narciso said...

It turned out it was his own man, general Cartwright who happens to be related to Peter strzok who was guilty.

narciso said...

But by all means, stock to the pre tape:


ttps://www.dailywire.com/news/29510/granddaddy-modern-day-globalism-and-his-arch-enemy-spyridon-mitsotakis

narciso said...

Funny thing happened on the war to the star chamber



https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/12171/tariq-ramadan-rape-trial

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Brian Krassenstein tittered...
Imagine if Clinton used a Dirty lawyer to threaten people & act as her "fixer". Now imagine if this attorney was raided & Anderson Cooper did segment after segment on how unjust these raids were

Now imagine if Cooper made up 33% of this lawyer's client base

That's Sean Hannity

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Brian Klaas continued on a theme ...
Just imagine how Sean Hannity would respond if it were true that Obama’s personal lawyer, the target of a criminal investigation, was also secretly the lawyer for Rachel Maddow—and she had been using her show to defend the lawyer without disclosing that relationship. Just imagine

narciso said...


Does Jack palladino and the staff of igi not ring a,bell, how about Cody shearer re Catherine willey


https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.t
hedailybeast.com/exclusive-fbi-investigated-former-cia-chief-michael-hayden-in-secret-spilling-case

Birkel said...

ARM,
Do you mean Perkins Coie?

Michael K said...

What is interesting to me is the fact hat so many NeverTrumpers, like Mark Levin, are supporting him. Levin tonight had a retired senior FBI guy, whose name I recognized but can't recall just now, who was castigating the clown show in New Ypkr with Kimba Wood.

It will probably take a few weeks for the truth to come out.

narciso said...

Ah yes they were Obama's chief counsel of record, they funded the dossier through marc Elias they represented crowdtrike whose faulty analysis comprises the other half of an official intelligence document.

walter said...

narciso said...Of course they went after Cohen because he challenged Steele representation inn the dissier.
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"dissier" is your best typo

Chuck said...

Hannity virtually denies that Cohen represented him in any matter.

So Michael Cohen’s attorney was misleading the court when he represented on the record that Hannity was one of just three clients and that Hannity would experience embarrassment if his name were revealed as a Cohen client.

narciso said...

Kames kallstrom he was a deputy director back in the 90s. Yes but Dr. K what happens inn the meantime, this is another lawfare exercise like what brocks minions,media matters specialize in.

narciso said...

Much like comey did with the provenance of a document that might as well been cooked up at the Sbr dezinforma shop

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Chuck said...
Hannity virtually denies that Cohen represented him in any matter.


Yes and no. He is admitting now that money changed hands.

narciso said...

So its,taken five years to discover that even Michael Hayden wasnt immune from obama' s apparatchiks, it took three to discover the bureau guarded an undercover operativr in garland, two re effendi siddique who was also apparently an informant but neither his son not another attendee of his mosque who blew up in idlib were pointed out

Inga...Allie Oop said...

There’s some dirt Hannity wants hidden. He probably was Cohen’s client. Why else would they even say there was a third client? They probably knew that Haniity being a client would be discovered when the government started examining Cohen’s documents.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Wasn’t Hannity tight with Julian Assange?

narciso said...

If the russians wanted to sow distrust in govt wiuld they do anything dofferent than what mieller and his hall monitor rosenstein have enabled

narciso said...

Would do, under Mueller and come the bureau missed 14 different terror plots. They shut down the Chapman ring and shuttled them out of dc before any one could discover their tied to clinton.

narciso said...

Then there's uranium one and the bribery plot that proceeded It, the operation was shut down after the south African born CEO of the counterpart firm translogistic had his computer trashed and data expunged.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Inga said...
Wasn’t Hannity tight with Julian Assange?


Russian tool Julian Assange? Why yes! Yes he was.

Michelle Dulak Thomson said...

buwaya,

Cross-examining Napoleon could have happened only if he had been defeated and imprisoned.

Hmmm. You'd think then that someone would've done it at Elba. Or at least at St. Helena, which is basically a thousand miles from anywhere. The Lion of Naples spent a lot of his life in closely-enforced exile. Certainly much more than did the Lion of the Senate. Granted that Napoleon killed a lot more people than Teddy did, but he didn't shilly-shally about it, and I can't imagine him leaving a woman to die in a sunken car and carefully waiting until he was sure she was dead to call the cops.

It has always puzzled me, though, that no one thought to execute Napoleon. Was he just too great to suffer such an indignity, or what? It's not as though great men weren't being hanged and guillotined left and right.

Birkel said...

narciso makes for more interesting reading than the ChIngARM nonsense about a non-issue of a conspiracy theory.

Good luck making this seem important outside the Blog Commentariat. I still don't see how any of this is important.

Maybe as a smokescreen from the McCabe/Comey/Strozk/Lynch revelations?

Eh...

Bad Lieutenant said...

I've got about eight names on that list of Senate Republicans right now.
4/16/18, 12:20 PM

Really? What are their names?

Do they ever all hang out together after work? Maybe they like to play baseball?

narciso said...

You can suss out what's important but whAt they are not focusing on,
Now,Sarah Carter and John Solomon have been unraveling this bogus squirrel snipe huny for more than a year, but Hannity is practically the only one who has given her airtime.

narciso said...

Hunt, it involves John Kerry's top aide who was contracted by apco which created this second dossier for the state department.

Lee Smith has also been good at unentangling the narrative behind the dissier.

narciso said...

The Pulitzer needless to say have been a joke and a half.

Zach said...

GEORGE STEPHANOPOULOS: Why not say no?
Exactly! Let's see how the head of the FBI answers:
JAMES COMEY: That's a fair question. I think because I was caught totally by surprise.


How can he be surprised? He's the head of the FBI, invited to a private dinner with the President, who is deciding who to appoint as the next head of the FBI.

If Trump doesn't want to appoint him, he can let him know with a phone call. Inviting him to a one on one dinner means he's going to get offered the job. Maybe it's a courtesy offer, maybe it's a real offer. It turned out it was an offer with conditions. Conditions Comey accepted, but didn't follow through on.

Asking a potential appointment if he's willing to be a loyal member of the new team is not improper. If Comey wanted to be Obama's man (no qualms about being loyal to Obama!) he should have turned down the appointment.

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narciso said...

So that is the real reason for this, just like Tucker Carlson has been one of the few that followed up the awan bros, of the discrepancies re las vegas.

narciso said...

Yes it,was just a cover for comeys negligence and criminal malpractice.

the 4chan Guy who reads Althouse said...

"By the way, the Trump family attorneys have stated in writing that Barron Trump is not autistic. And I know nothing more than that. Only what Harder wrote."

Wow, dude. You thought this was worth writing, so you wrote it, and then you hit Publish so other people could see what you wrote.And you drag a dude's kid into snarky passive-aggressive innuendo bullshit, and no doubt if you are called on it you'll just say some shit like "I'm only saying what the dude's lawyer said."

Fuck, dude: were you, like, molested as a kid? Because your anger seems like the kind that comes from shame and doubt. And by feeling only anger you're not allowing yourself to be afraid or lonely or shit, which isn't healthy. It probably even causes cancer testicles, I bet.

So now you figure small boys are fair game for shit, because no one was there to protect you when you needed it, and you resent those who get to grow up free of that pain: I get it.

But dude: you are not responsible for the abuse you experienced. And being fucked in the ass as a child doesn't make you less of a man, it doesn't make you weak, or, like a chick.

And you're probably afraid that you will experience more shame if you were to actually talk about it, which is fucked up, you should be able to say what happened to you, like, in the bowling alley bathroom or whatever, I don't know your details.

I'm just saying you maybe need to see if you can be the one to break the cycle, okay? Because you're not a child being fucked in the ass by an old dude anymore, you're an adult who's being fucked in the ass by pain.

So I'm sorry if you were abused and shit as a child, because that sucks. But if you really weren't fucked in the ass as a kid then you really have no good reason to be such an asshole.

M Jordan said...

I'm late to this party so please excuse me if this comment has been made already but, Comey is an idiot. Really. He is truly an idiot. He's an articulate idiot, an oddly cool self-assured idiot. He's "above average intelligence" but he assumes himself to be "way above average intelligence." But in fact he's an idiot. And I have proof.

Him.

narciso said...

I know it's a dead horse but it needs to be beaten:


https://mobile.twitter.com/Debradelai/status/952474976644419584

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

What seems odd to me is how awkward and passive Comey is. Even in Comey's own telling, he seems inert: he's waiting to follow instructions and trying to please a man he feels no connection to. Comey doesn't come across here as the embodiment of FBI tradition and integrity.

So by this telling, you must embody passivity and lack of integrity in spades - given how subserviently you come across in regards to everything Trump says and does.

jph62 said...

Comey is bitchy and petty, like an aging queen. Not that there's anything wrong with that. What the hell is it with F.B.I. directors?

FullMoon said...

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Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

Once again this blog is focused on the dramatic sideshow when the real story is the downfall of Consigliere Cohen and the damage that does to the criminal operation of Mafioso Mob Boss Don Dotard President Pee Pee Tape Trump.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

JAMES COMEY: Not long. I think it was probably during the salad, before the shrimp scampi. I laughed heartily at this point, watching it on TV. Stephanopoulos asked about time and Comey told the time in terms of food courses, as if we know where in the order of things the salad appears. But I guess "shrimp scampi" was the entree, so the salad came somewhere in the beginning, but was there a soup course? An appetizer? And it's also funny for a man who just acted pretentious about he word "calligrapher" to say "shrimp scampi," especially when he's inserting Italian phrases like "amica nostra." "Scampi" just means "shrimp," and educated people are supposed to know that you're saying "shrimp shrimp" and that's silly.

Wow. THat's some major sleuthing there, Encyclopedia Brown. Words for shrimp. How much more deeply enlightened we all are about the facts of what happened now. Impressive.

And that's the weather inside the cranium of James Comey. He talks so much about how Trump felt, but he's revealing how he himself felt and what kind of man he is. For all his rectitude and sermonizing, there is something needy and pliable about Comey.

Like most Americans, he needs the president to behave like someone who cares about rule of law. You have no idea how historically ignorant you sound to pine away for another bulvan in the FBI director when one was too many in President Pee Pee Tape. (As if Dotard didn't sound needy, too. "Please, please come out Mr. FBI Director with a statement denying the existence of the pee pee tape! My WIFE!!!!" LOL!)

One J. Edgar Hoover was enough. A one-man fledgling autocrat - who, BTW, dressed up in women's clothes at night. Comey's honesty and humility and integrity is a breath of fresh air compared to THAT contrast. Not perfect but a damn sight better.

Why did he do anything he didn't choose to do? Why did he fail to speak forthrightly? If Trump really said "Okay, but I need loyalty, I expect loyalty," I wonder if Trump wasn't giving him a test to see if he was a weak man or if he offered a substantial counterweight to presidential power.

Right. Like anything in Dotard's 71-year history suggests any such thing - that he prefers STRONG individuals in his company. What planet are you living on and why do you keep asserting the opposite of reality.

Comey did the right thing by staying in there as long as he could to act as another one of many thousands in the WH to check this psychopath's powerful impulses and urges and endless cover-ups. At least he's patriotic, unlike l'etat, c'est moi Trump, who confuses himself with the office.

walter said...

Yep. That's why he's known as "By the book Comey"
Oh wait..it's "Buy the book! Comey"

FullMoon said...
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Birkel said...

So a lot of people are excited by these events bit nobody can help me understand why any of this Cohen stuff is important. Right?

Lee Moore said...

Yeah, it's embarrassing, but you have to look at it from Comey's point of view. At the time he's having this awkward dinner with Trump, Comey has already been investigating Trump for several months as a potential Russian sleeper agent; Comey has already tied himself into definitional pretzels to avoid admitting to Trump that he is a criminal suspect, and who has "briefed" Trump on the dossier by trying to distract him with golden showers and leaving out everything else.

In short he's had his hand up Trump's skirt for months, and has dissembled to him on the only occasion they've met; so over dinner he's naturally a bit worried that Trump might notice.

Wince said...

A few follow-up thoughts:

Whether Hannity should have disclosed any relationship with Cohen is a valid issue of journalistic ethics that had no bearing on what should have happened in court. Especially given the scope of representation claimed by Hannity, I can see why Dershowitz told Hannity he should have made that disclosure voluntarily as a matter of journalistic ethics and why Deshowitz was willing to foregive it. It seemed Dershowitz and Hannity agreed to make that point on-air to both their credit. I wish I had addressed the point myself in my earlier comments when the issue occurred to me.

Uncharacteristically, however, Dershowitz didn't even address the legal point of Judge Wood's action. Dershowitz seemed to want to lower the temperature on all sides, seemingly balancing the de minimis nature of the Cohen-Hannity relationship to excuse all sides and without really exploring the implications of the court's compelled disclosure of Cohen clients. I thought that was an unfortunate mistake for pedagogical and, more importantly, reasons that go to the matter of legal ethics and attorney-client rights vis-a-vis the state.

Given some of the more recent comments above, it should be noted the privilege applies when a potential client seeks legal advice, whether or not that person is actually represented by an attorney.

In general, as long as the prospective client is seeking legal advice or representation and reasonably believes the communication will be confidential, the consultation is privileged. This is so even if the would-be client never pays or hires the attorney.

Ignorance is Bliss said...

Zach said...

How can he be surprised? He's the head of the FBI, invited to a private dinner with the President, who is deciding who to appoint as the next head of the FBI.

This is factually incorrect. The position of FBI head was not open, waiting to be filled. Comey already had the job, and his term was not about to expire. If Trump did not want him in that position, Trump would need to fire him. Firing him was well within Trump's constitutional powers.

Having said that, Comey should not have been at all surprised about a meeting with the new boss, and the new boss trying to determine if he should keep his job.

walter said...

Yes EDH,
That full disclosure thing would be pretty cool..if actual big J journalists adhered to it in the incestuous cesspool of Left wing media. It's especially rich in the context of Stephie interviewing Comey.

Birkel said...

How many times did CBS News mention that Ben Rhodes was the brother if CBS News executive Charlie Rhodes' brother?

How many times did McCabe disclose his status as a neighbor if Clinton who received Clinton money?

How many times did Ohr tell the FBI that his wife worked for Fusion GPS?

Two standards are not better than one.

Q22 said...

I was my impression from the beginning that Comey was contemptuous of Trump and acted as such. His whole thought process was built on his impression that Trump was an illegitimate President and stupid person. He saw plots and conspiracies where none may have existed and assumed differences in views as proof of mental vacuousness.

Cactiki said...

1 This is why I read Althouse. Great analysis!
2. This guy Comey should be managing a Cinnabon in a mall in Omaha, not the FBI!
3 I think his ghost writer was Lena Dunham.
4. This really is just sad and pitiful. He sounds like some scared kid on his first job interview, not the leader of the most powerful branch of the the greatest nation on earth!!! J. Edgar Hoover wouldn't let this wimp fetch his coffee....

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