IN THE COMMENTS: I write:
What detail could there be in the Stormy Daniels story that isn't already out and about?A Reasonable Man immediately says:
If it's something that wasn't in the original story that already came out, but something new AND damaging, it will raise the question why is she just putting this detail in now.
Either it's unimportant or it's going to hurt her credibility.
Or, she now feels that she is protected from any consequences associated with the NDA.My response:
Seems to me she gave an interview to In Touch Weekly 6 years ago, and it wasn't published. That was long before there was an NDA. So what does the NDA have to do with the details she gave in that old interview? How could she have felt threatened by something that didn't exist.
I'm sorry, your idea just doesn't make sense to me. I'm assuming she told her story 6 years ago and it wasn't considered worth publishing. Later, it seemed worth publishing (and it did come out and an NDA was done). It might be interesting to see her tell the story now with 60-Minutes level probing and the aura of courage in standing up to the President of the United States, but what new details might there be? I stand by my original question: either the new details are not important or she will seem less credible to be telling a story that is inconsistent with her earlier story.
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WHO cares what he did before he was President?? We knew what he was when we elected him. SHE is out to make as much money as she can because she is getting old, and stripping won't pay the bills anymore.
This could have greater effect than many realize. She signed a NDA. Typically these are only signed by the party receiving the benefit (cash, information, etc). If her attorney succeeds in claiming it is invalid because only she signed it, then 99% of the NDAs executed are no longer valid. If she continues to flout the restrictions of the NDA, as it appears she is doing, and a court of law doesn't effectively stop her, then it will weaken all existing NDAs to the point of them carryimg no legal weight.
Kansas v. Duke in Omaha for a trip to the Final Four or a lying obsessed whore on 60 Minutes interviewing a porn star? You decide.
I don't know whether people can be metaphors, but is there any better symbol of decadence and dystopia than that America is divided into cheering squads for Donald Trump and Stormy Daniels?
Isn't her 15 minutes over yet?
The only thing that could make this worse to watch is if the interview is done by Anderson Cooper. What? Really?
Just awful TV. I don't care. I don't care if Trump screwed 25 women lined up in a row at the airport in front of Bill Clinton's plane as Clinton was about to take off to go to that island filled with underage girls.
I don't care. What I DO care about is Trump signing onto an Omnibus Bill crafted by the governing class joined arm in arm- Pelosi and Ryan. Schumer and McConnell- to continue to screw the American public. The reaction by the American public? 'Hey...let's follow this kid who likes looking at himself on TV and we'll go protest guns...or something.'
This is not a revolution. This is insanity. Being fed to us by the shovel-load. If we don't wake up soon, we won't be able to discern news from weak comedy. Wait...
Another day, another whore story. The Propagandists are getting past boring. At least the Media scum's war on the Trumps only has 7 years left.
Meanwhile:
In accordance with section 7058(d) of division K of the Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2018 (H.R. 1625; the “Act”), I hereby designate as an emergency requirement all funding so designated by the Congress in the Act pursuant to section 251(b)(2)(A) of the Balanced Budget and Emergency Deficit Control Act of 1985, for the accounts referenced in section 7058(d).
The details of this action are set forth in the enclosed memorandum from the Director of the Office of Management and Budget.
Sincerely,
DONALD J. TRUMP
Hard to decide who is more unlikeable. Stormy or her lawyer. This case is just one big advertisement for him. 60 Minutes might as well flash his number and website. www.NotYourFault.com
For all the 2-week media blitz, does even one persuadable person care? That's a serious question. It's difficult for me to imagine anyone changing their vote over this. Bill Clinton settled the question decades ago.
LOL, it's almost as if this story is providing cover for Trump and the Reps for the awful omnibus deal.
This is as bad as that Geraldo hidden Mafia thing of years ago.
No one cares about this. Except one person - Melania. They are attacking her, trying to wreck his family because it will interfere. Vicious stuff.
Anderson Cooper is doing himself proud.
The Elephant remembers. The Elephant knows.
Just as many celebrated Trump as a poke in the eye to the establishment, maybe we should view Stormy in a similar light. Trump is now the establishment, he is the most powerful man in the world as President, and Stormy is the plucky rebel with her finger raised to his eye. Viva Stormy!
I agree that Bill Clinton settled this years ago.
I also agree this is about humiliating Melania.
The left is the most cruel instrument of haters in modern history.
The Red Guards were out in force yesterday.
ARM makes my point.
Oh good. We get to hear about something from 10 years ago. Some more. As if it is relevant to today.
Michael K said...
ARM makes my point.
Or at least would have if I had had one.
What detail could there be in the Stormy Daniels story that isn't already out and about?
If it's something that wasn't in the original story that already came out, but something new AND damaging, it will raise the question why is she just putting this detail in now.
Either it's unimportant or it's going to hurt her credibility.
Ann Althouse said...
Either it's unimportant or it's going to hurt her credibility.
Or, she now feels that she is protected from any consequences associated with the NDA.
Michael K said...
ARM makes my point.
Or at least would have if I had had one.
That was my point.
Michael K said...
That was my point. That I have no point.
I am on the Trump/Stormy Fusion Team. The Donald has plucked this flower from the dreary obscurity of her life as a faded porn star and made her an object of desire. If he is fighting her, she must have something that CBS wants!
Go Stormy! Max that fame! Go CBS! Reveal yourselves! Who would have thought they could be so easily played?
I hope Stormy appreciates everything that Trump has done for her.
Stormy for first woman president.
Stormy for President! You want to know everything about her. If only Barbara Walters were alive to do that interview! Would Oprah take it on? Will Jennifer Lawrence play her in the bio-pic? Will artificial enhancement be involved? Will Oprah give Stormy her own hour on OWN? What would Stormy do about the Iran deal? Is she ready to take on the Norks? ALL of them? Has she offered Tiger Woods a freeby if he wins at Augusta?
Stormy Daniels--America's most fascinating personality. Will David Hogg sign her for his next spontaneous, teen-driven protest? Will Stormy give up her guns? We want to know!
Didn't Trump invite Juanita Broderick to one of his debates with Hillary?
Everyone here found it relevant then. Wonder what has changed?
"What detail could there be in the Stormy Daniels story that isn't already out and about?"
This has nothing to do with such questions. It is entirely about preventing currently deluded people from becoming rehinged and realizing "Hey, he's not gonna get impeached after all!" That's all it's about.
She is fat.
Mark,
Do you believe all rape victims of not? From your comment, I think you do not believe rape victims. That is not ok.
Stormy Daniels might be a Russian-honeypot, sent by Putin to screw up Trump's golf game. You never know!
Blogger Mark said...
"Didn't Trump invite Juanita Broderick to one of his debates with Hillary?
Everyone here found it relevant then. Wonder what has changed?"
Consensual versus rape. Nothing changed.
"Everyone here"? Speak for yourself.
Maybe it will turn out that Trump has a single testicle. Then we will be treated to another year of Trump is Hitler.
Everyone here found it relevant then
The word "it" is doing a lot of work there, conflating allegations of a felony with allegations of adultery. I wonder whether Mark understands the difference.
Michael K and ARM: I find your back-and-forth rather pointless.
Blogger PB said...
This could have greater effect than many realize. She signed a NDA. Typically these are only signed by the party receiving the benefit (cash, information, etc).
For the lawyers here: Is this true?
I've probably signed NDAs with a couple hundred companies over the past 40 years. Most recently 2-3 weeks ago. Most of my clients require it to get me into their vendor system as a contractor/consultant.
I do not recall any that were not signed by someone from the company as well as myself.
They do generally bind the company not to disclose any of my proprietary information so I am getting something in return. I don't really do anything that is proprietary or secret so that is kind of meaningless, at least in my case.
Coca-Cola has a concentrate manufacturing plant here in PR and, back in the 80s when I was selling machinery, before I became a consultant, I had to have my signature notarized (in PR that means by a lawyer) and they had a lawyer on staff in the plant to do that.
John Henry
Ah, personal attacks. So typical for things at Althouse.
Rape is far worse than adultery, but my pastor condemns them both.
I need to inform him that one of those has a shelf life and the other doesn't.
Mark,
Good job admitting apples are not kumquats. Now that you have admitted your earlier false equivalence false, would you care to try again?
Still no explanation on why one has a shelf life and the other does not.
Unless its because you cannot handle any criticism of Dear Leader.
Chang is the word for elephant in Thai. Chang beer isn't very good, though. Singha is better.
Mark,
What is the statute of limitations for rape? For adultery?
MadisonMan said...
Michael K and ARM: I find your back-and-forth rather pointless.
He started it!
I hope Trump ignores her. Let her talk and let the DNC hack press exploit her.
Trump should just ignore it all.
Let me make an affirmative statement, in spite of my standard policy of not giving a rip:
Rape has a statute of limitations because it is a matter of public concern. The people's peace has been breached and the people's representative government has a duty to protect the people from crime.
Adultery is not a crime. It is not a violation of the people's peace. The state takes no position on those matters as they are not a public concern.
Mark,
Your neo-puritanism is noted. P!ease work to re-criminalize adultery. You will have my laughing support.
"Or, she now feels that she is protected from any consequences associated with the NDA."
Seems to me she gave an interview to In Touch Weekly 6 years ago, and it wasn't published. That was long before there was an NDA. So what does the NDA have to do with the details she gave in that old interview? How could she have felt threatened by something that didn't exist.
I'm sorry, your idea just doesn't make sense to me. I'm assuming she told her story 6 years ago and it wasn't considered worth publishing. Later, it seemed worth publishing (and it did come out and an NDA was done). It might be interesting to see her tell the story now with 60-Minutes level probing and the aura of courage in standing up to the President of the United States, but what new details might there be? I stand by my original question: either the new details are not important or she will seem less credible to be telling a story that is inconsistent with her earlier story.
Can we assume a heart of gold?
I hope the Democrat press finds the throbbing memo.
If, for example, she revealed that Trump was not the only celebrity she ever had a private consultation with and that some of those other celebrities were well known Democrat politicians, I would prick up my ears Then, of course, all the talking heads would tell us how pornstars are morally flawed and not to be believed and that sex is a private matter.
Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
Just as many celebrated Trump as a poke in the eye to the establishment, maybe we should view Stormy in a similar light. Trump is now the establishment, he is the most powerful man in the world as President, and Stormy is the plucky rebel with her finger raised to his eye. Viva Stormy!
Stormy Daniels is a tool of the swamp.
Just like all of those tools in the astro-turfed anti-gun rallies this weekend.
99.9% of Americans didn't see a protester yesterday. Similar numbers don't care about daniels. The left is an empty vessel fueled by billionaires.
Ah, personal attacks. So typical for things at Althouse.
Rape is far worse than adultery, but my pastor condemns them both.
I need to inform him that one of those has a shelf life and the other doesn't.
You should also probably mention the fact that one is a crime, and one isn't.
If I had to choose between sleeping with Emma Sulkowicz or Stormy Daniels, I would choose the latter.
However, I would not pay $130K for an NDA! I would, though, offer to pay $24 dollars for a dinner at Arby's and a beer.
Gahrie, still a crime in 21 states.
Who is funding this?
I find it amusing that the same people losing their minds over an alleged affair Trump had 10 years before becoming President, were just fine with Bill Clinton getting head from a 21 year old intern in the Oval Office.
Pathetic.
If and when I break with Tump, it will not be because of Stormy. I don't think he ever offered much guidance or leadership on questions of sexual morality. He did, however, offer leadership in exposing how wretchedly hypocritical the Democratic Party is in these matters..... Some here have expressed misgivings about his signing of the Omnibus Bill. Well, deficits are like playing too much golf-- only reprehensible when engaged in by the opposition's president. Trump would lose me if he lets this trade war thing get out of hand. Maybe it won't, but this is supposed to be in his wheelhouse and, if he screws it up, it's on him.
If you had all the money and options in the world, who would you rather fool around with: a high fashion model, a Playmate of the Year, or a ponstar? Trump cut the Gordian knot by fooling around with all three. Some here have been dismissive of Stormy, but that woman has experience and skills that most of us cannot even imagine. I see no reason why a pornstar should not be included on every billionaire's bucket list.
Blogger Bay Area Guy said...
If I had to choose between sleeping with Emma Sulkowicz or Stormy Daniels, I would choose the latter.
Neither seems a particularly wise choice. Maybe you should have prefaced your statement with, "If I had a gun at my head and ..."
Either it's unimportant or it's going to hurt her credibility.
Photographic proof would shatter that either/or -- consult Scott Adams on the primacy of the visual.
Mark:
I will give you a chance to admit there are still 21 states that have not removed adultery from the criminal law books. But you must also admit that those laws are unenforceable.
Are you trying to be deceptive while being remarkably transparent or are you a liar?
Relative to everything else, this places Trump in a better light
Courage? A pr0n actress/stripper pimping herself out to the MSM is not courageous, it's a business transaction. I think there's a word for that.
btw-Ask Jennifer Flowers how well cashing in worked out for her. Monica had the grace and class to stay out of the media spotlight and she's still shunned.
Juanita Broaddrick and Kathleen Wiley were courageous and have been thoroughly trashed by the very same media who spent the last 26 years telling us that a sitting President having consensual sex outside of his marriage is no big whoop. When the Lewinsky scandal broke female journalists volunteered to put on their knee pads and service Clinton themselves.
The lesson took and American voters are well past such Victorian nonsense, we don't care with whom Trump slept, unless it was Putin. Nope, still don't care.
A question for OGH; if Daniels gave the magazine interview years before signing a DNA, can she embellish that interview? Wouldn't new details or additional material be governed by the DNA?
What more is there to disclose? I suspect we will find that Trump has kinky tastes. Who among us is surprised? Who among us cares?
Blogger Mark said...
“Didn't Trump invite Juanita Broderick to one of his debates with Hillary?
Everyone here found it relevant then. Wonder what has changed?”
Dang, yet another pro-rape Democrat. Small wonder that the first thing out of Weinstein’s mouth when accused was “vast right-wing conspiracy!”.
It could be new details that occurred last year, things that happened more recent and would not have been in the 6 year old interview.
Where’s Laslo these days?
What could her new details be?
Theory 1. He brought sheets Obama had used and had her pee on them.
Theory 2. They both peeed on a picture of Obama.
Theory 3. Vladimir Putin joined for a threesome, and brought a whip.
Amadeus 48 said "Go Stormy! Max that fame! Go CBS! "
Ah, yes, the network with the motto: fake but accurate.
What is left to reveal about Donald Trump during sexual encounters with models, beauty pageant contestants, porn stars and Playboy bunnies? Well first, perhaps we can find out just how large a penis this "short-fingered vulgarian" has.
Remember how Paula Jones testified that Bill Clinton had "distinguishing marks" on his penis? These "distinguishing marks," Jones later explained, amount to three. His erect penis is about five inches long, has the circumference of a quarter and heads off at an angle, presumably rather like a finger bent at the joint - Peyronie's disease perhaps?
And who knows - maybe Trump is just a missionary-position f*cker? Lots we don't know and Stormy is just the gal to tell us, sans pasties and g-string.
Meryl Streep gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation at the Academy Awards, but Harrison Ford took the trouble to go all the way to Paris to hand deliver the Oscar to him. For some reason, I'm more offended by Streep's behavior than by that of Ford. Okay, this may be sexism on my part, but maybe it is because Meryl Streep is so overtly virtuous while Han Solo is more into having a good time......You can parse the differences between Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, but neither man can credibly preach about sexual morality. However, I'd give Trump and the Republicans the nod over Hillary and the Democrats when it comes to exhibiting hypocrisy. Hillary and the Democrats are manifestly worse.......The media pundits and Democrats who let Ted Kennedy follow the natural arc of his career should STFU about Donsld Trump.
gadfly:
Worried about other people's penises since 2016.
Althouse, you are letting facts and rationality get in the way of emotion, and the movie playing in peoples' heads.
Scott Adams should understand this; maybe we should consult Scott.
This is all about sex, and sexiness and dirty sex for pay, and NDA payoffs, and sexual power, and personal secrecy and the betrayal by Donald Trump of Melania. Emotional stuff where facts don't much matter. Like Scott Adams has been telling me for two years.
I'm not gonna worry about facts or rationality; what I want out of this is gut-level raw emotion. Not cluttered up with law or policy or any of that shit. I'm livin' the Trump life in the manner of the Dilbert blog.
I'll have time for facts later, if Michael Cohen is brought up on charges before the bar for commingling his personal funds with a client's case. Or if the Trump campaign has to answer for an in-kind donation that violates personal limits. Or the tax consequences of the 130k. Or the civil suits and the counter-suits.
Didn't Trump invite Juanita Broderick to one of his debates with Hillary?
Everyone here found it relevant then. Wonder what has changed?
Astute point, Mark.
Because the situations are exactly the same.
Why is the emphasis on the veracity of her statements and the damage they may do to Trump more important than the fact that she is breaking a legally binding NDA that she signed willingly and was well paid for?
Why not just make all contracts made by women voidable at their will, just like with minors?
To those who compare/contrast "Stormy Daniels" and "Juanita Broaddrick" on the basis of "consensual sex," versus "alleged sexual assault," you need a fast reminder on the comparison of "Monica Lewinski" and "Gennifer Flowers" (consensual) versus Ivanka Trump's divorce deposition ("rape") and "Summer Zervos" (alleged sexual assault).
Still no explanation on why one has a shelf life and the other does not.
'Cause one is an actual crime?
What do I win?
Correction:
gadfly and Chuck, worried about other people's penises since 2016.
but what new details might there be?
My guess? texts and pictures.
Not interesting 6 years ago to the media. DT is a playboy. Common knowledge that he cheated, a lot, on his wives.
Now that he's Pres, pics with Stormy are interesting to the press. More importantly to the Press, pics will get clicks and will sell magazines.
More so if DT and Stormy are nekked.
MikeR said...
No one cares about this. Except one person - Melania. They are attacking her, trying to wreck his family because it will interfere. Vicious stuff.
3/25/18, 8:05 AM
Yep, and the Playboy girl mentioned Melania by name. She is worse than Stormy. Stormy is know double penetration ass to mouth trash. Playboy is girl next door got religion cutie pie with heart of stone..
Char Char Binks noted: “Why not just make all contracts made by women voidable at their will, just like with minors?”
That’s the real bottom line here. I think Anderson Cooper knows this, too. He’s the ultimate misogynist. He’s a sadist about it as well. This will not end well.
As someone noted already, Cooper is just repeating Geraldo’s Capone vault fiasco.
Neither seems a particularly wise choice. Maybe you should have prefaced your statement with, "If I had a gun at my head and ..."
I'm surprised DT didn't use a condom.
I hope he was not doing this when Melania was pregnant with Baron. Or, if he was, they were not having unprotected intercourse. STDs are very dangerous to babies in utero.
"Althouse, you are letting facts and rationality get in the way of emotion, and the movie playing in peoples' heads."
Yes, it is interfering with the porno flick playing in chuck's head. Over and over.
If you read Cooper’s Wiki bio, you realize that he has had real issues with inhumanity and insensitivity. And yet he is so adored - mainly by women. Why is that?
Why are Trump's sexual indiscretions so much worse than those of FDR, JFK, LBJ and Clinton? I think the most shocking part of Ted Kennedy's scandal was that it was not a career ending scandal. You shouldn't be able to walk away from a crime like that with your career intact. The Democrats have forfeited all rights to preach to us about sexual morality. Hollywood too. If it weren't for Trump, Harvey Weinstein would have spent a night in the Lincoln bedroom and picked up a few more. Oscars.
Why are Trump's sexual indiscretions so much worse than those of FDR, JFK, LBJ and Clinton?
Because he usurped the throne from its rightful heir. No statute of limitations for that.
When did the Trumpkins become such snowflakes? If someone like a President Obama had been staring down a scandal involving a porn star, a weird fake-name non-disclosure agreement, and a payment to the porn star from a lawyer working for the president, Trump the private citizen (or especially Trump the candidate) would be firing out a dozen Tweets a day on the subject.
Trump is the filthiest and most unrestrained cheap-shotting gut-punching street-fighter that American politics has seen in two generations.
He gets zero sympathy.
Who wants sympathy ?
Sympathy is something you only find in the dictionary, right between Shit and Syphilis.
She's holding out for a movie deal with Leakin' Comey!
Blogger tcrosse said...
Who wants sympathy ?
Sympathy is something you only find in the dictionary, right between Shit and Syphilis.
That's mutherfuckin art. Two thumbs up Joe Bob says check it out
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