August 8, 2017

The next permutation in Drudge's "robot rape" story.

"Robot Rape" was Drudge's top story earlier this morning, and it appeared in irrelevant proximity to a photograph of Keith Richards smoking. I talked about that here. Now, "NKOREA MISSILES NUKE READY" has taken precedence over the always-inconsequential threat that robots might be coming to rape us. The rape story, discussed at the link, is the supposed problem of robots as rape victims, not perpetrators. But the new image Drudge has for the story is much more obviously trying to make you think the robots are coming to get you:


By the way, I decided in late July that I'm in favor of sex robots — for reasons outlined here and here.

71 comments:

eric said...

Are you also in favor of sex robots as rape victims?

Michael K said...

I suppose it is a variant on the Woody Allen theme that masturbation has the virtue that you are having sex with someone who really loves you.

n.n said...

Robots and phallic implements. That's one less child selected. A conservation of human rights. Scalpels that are sequestered and not used to corrupt healthy human tissue and human life.

Bay Area Guy said...

I don't think robots should be raped, no matter how attractive the technological wizards make them.

I am also opposed to being raped by robots -- unless they look like Kate Upton.

traditionalguy said...

Every Sex Robot created equals one more eunuch created by mating with it. This is good since it serves the Masters of The World need to take all the young women for their spirit cooking games of immortality.

Birkel said...

Westworld hardest hit?

Birkel said...

Welcome back, n.n.

Bob Boyd said...

Maybe that's not a picture of a robot rapist coming to get you.
Maybe its a robot being coy.

Brando said...

Everyone's in favor of sex robots. The only differing point is that some people will never admit it.

Birkel said...

In Progressive America, sexbot rapes you

mockturtle said...

I'd rather be raped by a robot. A robot would be less apt to be HIV Positive.

Ron Winkleheimer said...

http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/old-glory-insurance/n10766?snl=1

Bob Boyd said...

This sex robot business raises a lot of interesting ethical dilemmas. For example:

Will Obamacare pay for a sex robot?

Will the Little Sisters of the Poor have to pay for sex robot coverage for their employees?

Would sex with a robot be breaking the vows of celibacy?
What about wedding vows?
Would having sex with a riding lawn mower break the wedding vows?
If you had sex with your neighbor's riding lawn mower without asking, would that be rape?
How about if you ask to borrow the mower, but allowed him to assume you were going to use it to mow your lawn, would that be rape rape or more like statutory rape?

Virgil Hilts said...

My guess is that sex robots will cause rape/sexual assault to sharply decline and also may make the dregs of humanity less likely to live lives of crime (since prison will deprive them of their beautiful robots). The nannies will be wrong about sex robots the same they were wrong predicting that the explosion of porn would lead to increased sexual assaults. Per Reason.com, "Between 1997 and 2013, the rate of rape or sexual assault against women dropped by about 50 percent" - the same period that saw the unprecedented-in-human-history widespread free access to and availability of porn.

Clyde said...

Fox News guest is talking about the NorK nukes and how China needs to be more helpful, saying "China has come to a fork in the road..." and I thought, wouldn't it be more likely to be a chopstick in the road?

Bob Boyd said...

Police could put sex robots out patrolling the streets at night to catch rapists.
Once the rapist puts it in, it won't come out until the cops get there and unlock the dishwasher safe vaginal dentata module.

A similar tactic might catch lawn mower molestors.

mockturtle said...

Virgil, men don't commit sexual assaults because they're horny. The do it to feel powerful through the victim's fear. How would raping a robot satisfy that? Even if it screamed and tried to resist, it's still a robot and not, therefore, capable of fear.

Scott M said...

If you use robots in your cheese factory, aren't you using robots to rape cows?

Virgil Hilts said...

mockturtle - I don't disagree with you, but I stand by my prediction. Also, I suspect most rapists are extremely unattractive men who may come to (irrationally) hate and despise attractive women because they are for them completely unattainable. They are monsters and robots will not make them non-monsters but the robots may make them more manageable. As I think porn has.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Per Reason.com, "Between 1997 and 2013, the rate of rape or sexual assault against women dropped by about 50 percent"

Am dubious of such a fantastical claim.

That reporter at Reason, Elizabeth something, who covers sex stuff, is an agenda-driven sexual libertine who has been called out many times for misrepresenting data.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

I don't have an issue with sex robots simply because of personal liberty. Is a sad substitute for an authentic and quality sexual experience, but many other things are as well. Whatevs. These hysterics who want to curtail others' freedoms because of some imaginary bad outcome can just get bent.

Michael K said...

Once the rapist puts it in, it won't come out until the cops get there and unlock the dishwasher safe vaginal dentata module.

Thanks. I needed that one.

mockturtle said...

Also, I suspect most rapists are extremely unattractive men who may come to (irrationally) hate and despise attractive women because they are for them completely unattainable.M.

Actually, this is far from the case. Many are very attractive.

Virgil Hilts said...

I have misplaced my pants -- the quote was from Nick Gillespie at Reason, who I generally trust. http://reason.com/blog/2014/12/11/bjs-rate-of-sexual-assault-shows-sharp-d
His sources were U.S.DOJ/Office of Justice Programs/ Bureau of Justice Statistics




I Have Misplaced My Pants said...


Actually, this is far from the case. Many are very attractive.

Yes, attractive and charming. There are lots of different varieties of rapists but it's a misunderstanding to file them all under 'aren't getting any pussy.' Lots of rapists can and do have plenty of sex without force, but they are motivated by power, control and provoking fear. There are also the date rapists who think they are entitled to whatever they want to take from others and decline to accept a 'no.'

Rape scratches a very different itch than simply having an orgasm which is simple enough to achieve either with or without a partner.

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...

Virgil: then I withdraw my knee-jerk skepticism and will read further; thanks for the info. :)

Rick said...

I Have Misplaced My Pants said...
Am dubious of such a fantastical claim.


Why are you dubious? Murder and other violent crime fell by similar levels over that time frame.

Virgil Hilts said...

mockturtle - to be scientific (kidding) I did a GIS for "mugshot rapist" wanting to see how many mugshots I would have to view before I found someone that I could imagine - based on pure looks -- being married to someone I cared about. It took me until the end of the 6th row and - surprise -- it was that asshole swimmer from Stanford.

walter said...

Is it "rape rape" or just "kinda rapey"?
What if they program robots to have rape fantasies?

Virgil Hilts said...

Also, I'm not saying that "all" rapists are unattractive losers. That would be silly. I believe, however, that most (more than 50%) are.
And if you do a GIS for "serial rapist" instead of just rapist the perps just get uglier. Not very scientific, I know but I still think I am probably right.

mockturtle said...

Not scientific at all, Virgil. Many serial rapists are particularly handsome so the correlation you infer simply doesn't exist.

William said...

Women are more likely to have rape fantasies than men. I think the conundrums and contradictions of a woman's libido are beyond the reach of algorithms and that it will be well nigh impossible to program a satisfactory sexbot partner for a woman. They will be driving the programmers crazy with their incessant demands.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

This is your idiot President. God help us.

"President Donald Trump’s retweet of a Fox News story claiming US satellites detected North Korea moving anti-ship cruise missiles to a patrol boat is raising eyebrows on Tuesday after US Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley indicated that the information in the report is classified and was leaked.

“I can’t talk about anything that’s classified and if that’s in the newspaper that’s a shame,” Haley said Tuesday on “Fox and Friends” when asked about the story that cites two anonymous sources.

Pushed on whether the information was leaked, Haley said “it’s one of those things I don’t know what’s going on. I will tell you it’s incredibly dangerous when things get out into the press like that.”

But just a few hours before Haley’s appearance on Fox, President Trump retweeted a post from the Fox News morning show promoting the story said to contain classified information."

http://fox6now.com/2017/08/08/president-trump-retweets-fox-news-story-containing-classified-info/

Gahrie said...

Women are more likely to have rape fantasies than men. I think the conundrums and contradictions of a woman's libido are beyond the reach of algorithms and that it will be well nigh impossible to program a satisfactory sexbot partner for a woman. They will be driving the programmers crazy with their incessant demands.

The solution is simple...just convert all those bodice-ripper writers to sex robot programmers.

walter said...

Keep those things clean or you'll catch botulism.

Pianoman said...

Isn't a vibrator a "sex robot"?

Why are the "rules" for sex robots different for men than for women?

(yeah, I know -- to ask the question is to answer it)

Gahrie said...

Isn't a vibrator a "sex robot"?

Vibrators are old news. For the mildly adventurous, there is the Sybian. For the really adventurous there are machines that will piston a dildo in and out of your vagina at varying speeds and depths.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
E-mails show that the AmazonWashingtonPost and the FailingNewYorkTimes were reluctant to cover the Clinton/Lynch secret meeting in plane.
1:00 PM · Aug 8, 2017

Your President tweets about this, while Korea is more threatening than ever. You voted for this clown. God help us.

Pianoman said...

It's just funny that Suddenly Out Of Nowhere, sex robots are a problem.

They weren't a problem 20 years ago, when it was vibrators. I wonder what changed?

"That's Different, Because Shut Up"

walter said...

But..TRUMMMP!

Gahrie said...

Your President tweets about this, while Korea is more threatening than ever. You voted for this clown. God help us.

You forget Trump's secret weapon...he can think about more than one thing at a time...unlike all of you Trump haters.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

The Trump sycophant's adoration rivals the adoration that the North Koreans have for their Dear Leader.

Gahrie said...

The Trump sycophant's adoration rivals the adoration that the North Koreans have for their Dear Leader.

You have the gall to write this after the last eight years of Obama worship?

How many children's choirs are singing hosannas to Trump? Where are the magazine covers with a halo behind his head? Hell Trump hasn't even won a Nobel prize yet.

traditionalguy said...

FTR: DJT is aware that he is cornering the Norks by getting China and Russia to go along with Trump's leadership by Haley in the UN. And his is the first leadership applied to this problem since the Clinton Crime Family let them have nukes and everybody wished they would go away.

And DJT's military options are not that bad, except for the deaths that will happen among the South Koreans in Soul. Thirty Seconds over Pyongyang could start anytime now.

And the White House bugging system left by foreign forces working for Iran and their ally, North korea, who are Obama and Jarrett, is being eliminated as we speak. Then it will be safe to operate military commands from the White House.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

"You have the gall to write this after the last eight years of Obama worship."

Obama was an intelligent pragmatic normal President. We could use someone like him right about now. If anyone could be respected it would be him, unlike you fools wasting your adoration and support on this dangerously incompetent fraud of a Presdient. Seriously how stupid are you people? Or what is your problem? It's time to wake up from your hypnotic state. What the heck will it take for you Trump sycophants to snap out of it? A nuke to land in Seattle?

Did you hear what Trump just said in response to North Korea? My God, the man is a menace.

"North Korea best not make any more threats to the United States,” Mr. Trump told reporters at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J. “They will be met with fire and fury like the world has never seen. He has been very threatening beyond a normal state and as I said they will be met with fire and fury and frankly power the likes of which this world has never seen before.”

He sounded just like Little Kim.

Rabel said...

"...I'm in favor of sex robots..."

I can see the progression.

It started with Gene Gene the Dancing Machine.

Then it advanced to the Love Machine.

Now we've moved forward to sex machines.

The Love Machine may have left a few scars.

Fabi said...

It would have been actionable if Trump had actually leaked classified data, but re-tweeting something now in the public domain is meaningless.

UnknownInga's newfound respect for the proper handling of sensitive data is noted.

walter said...

Don't feed the bot, Gahrie.
Hey..back on topic.

Inga...Allie Oop said...

"NKOREA MISSILES NUKE READY" has taken precedence over the always-inconsequential threat that robots might be coming to rape us."

Rape us? No more likely they'll vaporize us. There will be nothing left to rape.

Fabi said...

"Obama was an intelligent pragmatic normal President."

He did heal the planet and stop the ocean levels from rising.

traditionalguy said...

Sorry for not staying on the hotter topic of sex...well substitute sex. No doubt a machine lasts longer. And fucking a machines brain out is highly unlikely. And a machine does not need to drink alcohol for priming.

The Professor is right.

walter said...

Kim wants US to respect the 'dong.
Maybe he needs a respectful sex bot...or a rekindling of his bromance with Rodman.

Achilles said...

I don't really see robots participating much in non-consensual rape.

I do see some issues when the "rape fantasy" button is pushed. I am sure there will be safety words/commands but lawyers will always find a way to make it the robot makers fault. Human error is always prevalent.

Programmers will start making criminal robots soon too. There could possibly be a "revenge" model someone could send after an ex. I am guessing more of these will be sent after men than women though.

Bad Lieutenant said...

Unknown said...
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
E-mails show that the AmazonWashingtonPost and the FailingNewYorkTimes were reluctant to cover the Clinton/Lynch secret meeting in plane.
1:00 PM · Aug 8, 2017

Your President tweets about this, while Korea is more threatening than ever. You voted for this clown. God help us.
8/8/17, 2:16 PM

If you would stop attacking THE President, perhaps he would not have to defend himself, and could conserve the limited stockpiles of tweet for international diplomacy.

Earth to libs: President Trump is NOT going to let you attack him with impunity. Do you think you have a right to that? If so, you are terribly wrong. In theory, you could stop attacking him now, during this international crisis, but this does not occur to you.

richlb said...

What about a cyborg? How much human content does a robot need to contain in order to be considered "human" enough for rape to be illegal?

buwaya said...

"Would sex with a robot be breaking the vows of celibacy? "

Out of all the unanswerable questions on this matter, and on North Korea also, this one I can answer unequivocally, based on my not-bad laymans Catholic education.

I could have answered these questions at age 12, when they got to that sort of thing in Religion class.

Yes, it certainly would be.
It is also a sin in any case.

So, no, not OK for priests, friars, monks, nuns, and such religious laity who take vows, such as some of Opus Dei. And not OK for anyone else.

Inga...Allie Oop said...
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Achilles said...

I wonder if women will get to sue the robot makers when they regret having sex with a robot the morning after.

Fernandinande said...

Keep in mind that these things are just big dolls, they're not robots.

Darrell said...

Obama was an intelligent pragmatic normal President.

So you're only writing fiction now . . .

Fernandinande said...

Virgil Hilts said...
Also, I suspect most rapists are extremely unattractive men ...


Pretty much - Most wanted for rape portraits.

richlb said...

Women are more likely to have rape fantasies than men. I think the conundrums and contradictions of a woman's libido are beyond the reach of algorithms and that it will be well nigh impossible to program a satisfactory sexbot partner for a woman. They will be driving the programmers crazy with their incessant demands.

Careful, you're going to have Google after you for those "diverse" thoughts.

buwaya said...

"Keep in mind that these things are just big dolls, they're not robots."

For now.

"I wonder if women will get to sue the robot makers when they regret having sex with a robot the morning after."

I foresee tremendous scope for product liability here. The US legal system may, inadvertently, actually end up preserving the world from this scourge.

Ralph L said...

The peeking robot is kinda cute but doesn't go well with "rape."

Static Ping said...

Can we get two sexbots to rape each other? It might be funny in a very black comedy sort of way.

buwaya said...

"Can we get two sexbots to rape each other? It might be funny in a very black comedy sort of way."

http://www.robotwars.tv/

Just add rubber.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I decided in late July that I'm in favor of sex robots — for reasons outlined here and here.

Why do you have to be in favor of them or not? Were you going to use them?

What happened to not caring about whatever weird things other people do?

I've decided I don't have to be in favor of or against sex robots - for the simple reason that they don't affect me and I would have no use for one.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together said...

I suppose it is a variant on the Woody Allen theme that masturbation has the virtue that you are having sex with someone who really loves you.

And in your case, while he's looking in the mirror.

Ann Althouse said...

I think the robot doll is more something a man might want. A woman will probably want a virtual reality enclosure of some kind.

Bob Boyd said...

"A woman will probably want a virtual reality enclosure of some kind."

Like working at Google?

Danno said...

tmi!