ADDED: "[T]he man who blew himself up the previous night at an Ariana Grande concert in Manchester, England, was 23-year-old Salman Abedi, who was known to British authorities prior to the attack."
There was security at the concert, but the bomber apparently didn't try to get into the venue, instead blowing himself up in an entrance foyer area as concertgoers flooded out of the arena. Prime Minister May said the attacker had deliberately chosen "his time and place to cause maximum carnage" in the young crowd.
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«Oldest ‹Older 401 – 420 of 420Inga will give up her "reasoning" about the same time the suicide bombers do: never
It's like a deadly game of chicken.
Germans, French, and British have killed many more German, French, and British than Islamists.
What lesson can we draw, not from that alone, but combined with the knowledge Euro leaders have no kids?
Once the switch is flipped, we will have contests highlighting who gets to nuke where when. These modern godless whites will take more blood from earth than their great (and great) grandparent's generation, which is saying one Hell of a lot, and I am not talking about how foolish their offspring turned out in their decadence as abortion alone, if seen for reference, would concur.
"...known to the authorities..." "I'm not a counterterrorist. I'm a terrorist monitor. It's a terrorist."
The Toothless Revolutionary said...
Finally. The kind of chaotic destruction and violence that gives the right-wing a sense of meaning.
They live for this stuff.
During the election all of the violence came from the left directed at Trump supporters.
There is widespread acceptance of eliminationist rhetoric on the left direct at people on the right.
The left nominated the greatest warmonger in the last 3 decades right up there tied with McCain as their nominee.
And look who s defending the intolerance and violence of Muslims as soon as they commit another atrocity.
It is clearly the left that resorts to and is fascinated with violence and chaos.
"Hence, allusions to strategies and tactics employed during either of the two World Wars as if they are remotely applicable to today's situation is wildly off the mark, in my estimation."
I consider "we aren't just gonna kill the lousy sons a bitches we're gonna rip their guts out and grease our tank tracks" a universal strategy to win or at minimum enhance the odds using whatever tactics the specific event requires/demands/allows.
The strategy "anyone who shows they are an Islamophobe by noticing %^~€^~^^ before he shot up Fort Hood is a killing monster abetted by PC unto themselves and more harmful than any brain doc could ever in a million years be" is for losers, and not losers like me either, real bona fide losers.
It is in this context I ask for your slight indulgence: Donald Trump may indeed be Fredo for all we know, but, and yes I concede this is a key point, before he whacked him (Fredo) Michael told Moe Green "you had to set my brother straight" or something really close to that.
The American people are Michael in this scenario, if indeed Trump is some magical lucky not-really-Fredo Fredo, as some's fancy grabs.
YOU DON'T MESS WITH THE FAMILY, Moe Green or not.
And we didn't put faith in Trump so much as Trump has put faith in us.
Since the previous thread where Chuck brought up the IRA (and Ann decided that was fine to do) is mostly dead, I'll post here that Mark Steyn addressed this point in his excellent column about this attack:
https://www.steynonline.com/7841/dangerous-woman-meets-dangerous-man
"A couple of hours ago, as I write, the Arndale shopping center in Manchester was evacuated, somewhat chaotically, with hundreds of customers stampeding for the exits lest they be the cause of The Independent's next carry-on editorial. The Arndale was the scene of the city's last big terror attack - in 1996, when the IRA totaled it. Two hundred people were injured, but nobody died, and you don't have to be a terror apologist like Jeremy Corbyn to find the bad old days of Irish republicanism almost quaint by comparison. A few weeks ago the BBC reported that "approximately 850 people" from the United Kingdom have gone to Syria and Iraq to fight for Isis and the like. That's more volunteers than the IRA were able to recruit in thirty years of the "Troubles", when MI5 estimated that they never had more than a hundred active terrorists out in the field. This time maybe it's the exotic appeal of foreign travel, as opposed to a month holed up in a barn in Newry."
I'll have you know not once, ever, has Mark Steyn supported or given aid and comfort to anything, not one single syllable much less word, I've said.
Even Althouse once pointed out to me Philly or fillie or something was inapt in my presentation, but never not once has Steyn acknowledged me.
Even so:
"All of us have gotten things wrong since 9/11. But few of us have gotten things as disastrously wrong as May and Merkel and Hollande and an entire generation of European political leaders who insist that remorseless incremental Islamization is both unstoppable and manageable. It is neither - and, for the sake of the dead of last night's carnage and for those of the next one, it is necessary to face that honestly. Theresa May's statement in Downing Street is said by my old friends at The Spectator to be "defiant", but what she is defying is not terrorism but reality. So too for all the exhausted accessories of defiance chic: candles, teddy bears, hashtags, the pitiful passive rote gestures that acknowledge atrocity without addressing it - like the Eloi in H G Wells' Time Machine, too evolved to resist the Morlocks."
Little less head up the ass is all we ask.
https://www.steynonline.com/7841/dangerous-woman-meets-dangerous-man
mockturtle said...
Urbane legend asserts: Calvinists and Baptists hold a decidedly different view, with equal justification.
Not entirely true. Many Baptist sects are Calvinist in their basic doctrine e.g., the sovereignty of God in salvation. This is in opposition to the 'free will' Methodist tenet.
I meant they hold that our Catholic friends are not holders or controllers of what is true Christian religion, not they hold different doctrinal views.
Thank you for taking the time for the explanation.
Newsflash: another terrorist attack in the Philippines - hostages:
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154629692365665&id=207730000664
Sorry Buwaya
If the backpack sported a confederate flag, the whole white race would be implicated.
Just hit me that a bunch of grown men called girls at a concert 'Crusaders.'
What evil losers.
Imagine a string of bombings, mass killings, etc associated with confederate flags. Dylan Roof was frustrated by being isolated in his beliefs and laughed at by his friends over them, but still he rode astride a mighty movement!
If they had kidnapped hundreds of them for brides, we would hear, "It's complicated."
richard mcenroe: "...known to the authorities..." "I'm not a counterterrorist. I'm a terrorist monitor. It's a terrorist."
Very nice.
I didn't realize that attention to bad and dangerous policy takes a break because of an atrocity. Especially one predicted by the criticism of that policy.
So … the critics of “ … bad and dangerous policy … predicted … ” that Islamic terrorists would commit atrocities? How insightful and exhibiting such a keen grasp of reality, too. Next Captain Obvious will be predicting heat during summer.
We are not Europe, yet.
Another winner! Nope, we’re definitely not Europe, yet - and some of us want to keep it that way.
Question: What’s the difference between an Islamic society and a totalitarian society?
Anyway, re Muslims all over again, if you are going to have them, you need to assimilate them, and you have extremely defective means to do so.
Nope. The Muslim immigrants themselves are responsible for assimilating. If they are eager to embrace American values, as all other immigrant groups have been, then assimilation should easily occur. The problems happen when they start insisting that the rest of America should adopt their values and accommodate their culture. Fuck that.
Why should I care, Britain is reaping the rewards of what their duly elected Labor Party built.
Blogger TwilightofLiberty.com said...
Just hit me that a bunch of grown men called girls at a concert 'Crusaders.'
What evil losers.
5/24/17, 6:23 AM
1) quite
2) but girl power! Fearless Girl! Look, the Islamofascists are taking you seriously, ladies, they must be your friends!
3) in a concert full of ten year old American boys, if they were oriented and detected him in time, some of them would have rushed the bomber and taken him down. Bombers should stay away from American boys. 8yo English girls are more their mark. On a good day.
4) reports of an "Asian" woman with a backpack leaving shortly before the boom?
Urbane legend clarifies: I meant they hold that our Catholic friends are not holders or controllers of what is true Christian religion, not they hold different doctrinal views.
Thank you for taking the time for the explanation.
Sorry that I wrongly inferred the meaning of your statement. Yes. Definitely.
richard mcenroe "I'm not a counterterrorist. I'm a terrorist monitor. It's a terrorist."
Excellent!
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