And alan markus said:
I will be watching the discussion here - much more interesting than what any talking heads on TV will have to say.And I said:
Hey, good point! I should have provided that option: I will be hanging out on Althouse and seeing whatever is visible from this vantage point.The option wasn't available on the poll, but it's available right now. Hang out here and watch with me. I know we can't all get what we want, but if what you want is company and conversation, you can get that here. My vote is secret, and I'm sympathetic to everyone's feelings.
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1,169 ટિપ્પણીઓ:
«સૌથી જૂનું ‹વધુ જૂનું 1169 માંથી 801 – 1000 વધુ નવું› તદ્દન નવું»I voted for Trump, & take this strange demonic glee in seeing him tromp the HRC machine.
But, I must tell you, I am apprehensive & frightened for the future of the country under a President Trump. I do, however, take considerable comfort from the fact that I'd be even more apprehensive & frightened at the reality of a HRC presidency.
"CNN still trying to find a way for Hillary to win Wisconsin."
-- This is the bargaining phase.
"Clinton war room tells CNN" relax. Ha ha ha! Whose fucking side are they on. Sorry I asked that.
But it looks like blacks in Milwaukee sat on their hands too.
Victory.
Pennsylvania and the election was just called for Trump.
It's a "white lash" when blacks choose to not vote for the Democrat.
Well, the good news is that this shouldn't go to 2000-esque lawsuits. this is a definite red tsunami swamping HillaryT
By who, eric? CNN is doing everything they can to not call PA and Wisconsin, when the result is obvious.
Some serious bargaining going on for PA on CNN too.
C'mon PA or MI. Let's seal the deal, send her packing.
btw, although I'm a diehard lib and arrogant myself, Rachel Maddow is soooo fucking annoying and thinks she's god's gift to political commentary so she must be muddling through about now.
She's one of many reasons I don't watch cable news anymore, plus the fact that I cut the cord. I can still get streaming video on the net. Pundits, even con pundits have to be scratching their heads.
Everybody thought Trump would lose earlier today, even Trump.
ok, I'm gonna watch some MSNBC now. Alaska is too early to call ...
Americans have voted to have Republicans back in full charge. Weird.
shiloh said...
So your telling me Hillary has a chance?
11/8/16, 11:36 PM
Keep hope alive!
Keep hope alive!!
Keep hope alive!!!
Worked for me. Thanks, Shiloh!
Are they chanting "Lock her up!" at the Javitz center? Naah, but it sounded like it.
I always kept hope alive, and I would like to thank shiloh for motivating me to do the dirty deed and vote for Trump.
Tim,
I don't get it at CNN. Trump is up 93,000 in Wisconsin, and the only counties that help Clinton that aren't complete yet are Dane and Milwaukee, but together, a good estimate that she could gain about 40,000 max from those two counties, but Trump will gain about 10,000 to 20,000 from everything else that is left. Fox was right to call it- it is 100% Trump.
Yancey: I think they're delaying to have their talky time.
You know what, though, credit the Trump supporters who showed up, man. All the polls were against 'em, but they went out and voted for anyway.
Everything else aside, if this election convinces people the Media is garbage it is a win. Media delenda est!
Van Jones laying out how they need to resist this president.
I thought that was bad. Wasn't it bad just a few days ago?
How fucking divisive a candidate did the Democrats think they could ram through?
Blogger tim in vermont said...
By who, eric? CNN is doing everything they can to not call PA and Wisconsin, when the result is obvious
DecisionDeskHQ
Fox hasn't called PA either.
"What is our relationship to Russia?"
Well, Romney told you what it was. And you laughed at him.
The MSM doesn't seem to get that the candidate who ran on the issues that Trump WON on - that he might have won.
They'll instead blame him for standing in the way of an establishment who was anti-working class.
But what if the anti-working class establishment candidate couldn't win?
Oh well. Stupid MSM/DNC. Don't worry about it. Go to your fancy apartments and return to your glossy studios tomorrow and tell us more about "culture wars" and ethnic interests and the rest of all that bullshit. Really! No one actually cares about how they're going to get ahead on $20 an hour.
Bring back identity politics! Bring back identity politics!
Hillary wins Maine.
If it comes to pass, as it now seems it will, that HRC loses the election, I suspect that quite a few of her staffers will need to be put on suicide watch.
I am not jesting here.
These people went into this thinking they had it in the bag, & they are now suffering perhaps the biggest upset in American history. Many of them are now realizing that they will no longer be shielded from the consequences for the many laws they have broken. It's got to be seriously ugly down at HRC campaign headquarters.
Five'll get you ten that Huma Abedin gets on a plane to Saudi Arabia & never comes back.
Remember how they mocked Palin?
http://www.salon.com/2008/09/27/russia_palin/
Utah finally officially to Trump at CNN.
"I don't get it at CNN."
After FL 2000 networks are very reluctant to make calls unless it's 100% conclusive.
btw, I'm still here so "you" have someone to make fun of. Only fair ...
Does Maine have any electoral votes?
3% of the vote to get 50k votes?
... He's taking PA, isn't he, CNN?
Fox is getting real testy about not being able to call the election.
ok, msnbc is still annoying!
Does Maine have any electoral votes?
I believe so. I'm pretty sure everybody gets at least 3.
Blondie on ABC crying about one of Hillary's talking points.
Yes Eric who called PA?
Think Maine gets 4 according to the CNN map.
Maine has 4, IIRC. But they split it by congressional districts. I think Fox called 3 for Hillary and one still up in the air.
She is still crying.
I am calling PA
MSNBC is whining about Biden not being the nominee and saying that Biden gets it.
Still crying.
Raddatz almost made herself cry, all choked up over the idea that Kaine wouldn't trust Trump as CinC while Kaine's son is a Marine.
Poor poor Martha Raddatz. What a hack!
Maine has 4, IIRC. But they split it by congressional districts. I think Fox called 3 for Hillary and one still up in the air.
Yeah, Maine does it the way I wish all states would do it, especially here in CA. I would love to have my vote count for something occasionally.
"So, is this the Obama legacy?"
You got it.
Lo and behold the rust belt actually went to the guy who cares about manufacturing jobs in America!
Jeepers Christ how the fuck did THAT happen?
Over to you, MSM.
Fun drinking game: Every time the MSM identifies a reason for Trump's win that doesn't mention "working class," "working poor," "living wages," "jobs," or "the economy," take a drink.
You will be shitfaced before you know it.
Do people remember that Brian Williams is a piece of shit liar that got caught blatantly lying? Wow.
PA and AZ should be called soon. Those 2 put Trump over the 272, then WI and MI will be gravy.
Out. Too close to call. Sleep beckons.
MSNBC is whining about Biden not being the nominee and saying that Biden gets it.
HAHAHAHHAHAAAAhahahahahahahahahahhhahahhHAHhahahHAHHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHH!H!H!HHAHHHASHAHAAAAHAH!!!
Biden doens't even get how fucked up his hair plugs looked.
Just for that I hope Trump does the all-out assault against the media that he's always promised us.
woulda, coulda, shoulda ~ regrets, I've had a few ...
Victory has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan.
Mick fucking called it.
Not only did Trump win he drug a shitpot of republican senators over the finish line.
CNN: It doesn't matter what Obama says about Trump after the election.
But apparently not Kelly Ayotte or Joe Heck. Oh wait, they ran away from him.
I think that calling people hillbillies is a great way to let them know you respect them and care about their needs and desires.
Every MSM bitch who's crying right now has to explain to me how their conventional wisdom decided that bad jobs and poor conditions for the working class stopped being an issue for this society, or any other.
Last I noticed, women need money, too.
The things these professional shit for brains neglect to notice take up enough space to build a huge tower in front of. With a big, gilded "T" on top.
Victory has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan.
Not in this case. THis time it's VERY clear:
The DNC and MSM.
And everyone who went along with their "narrative."
Bye-bye DNC and MSM. Hope you find your way back to relevance someday.
NOT.
R&B: "Fun drinking game: Every time the MSM identifies a reason for Trump's win that doesn't mention "working class," "working poor," "living wages," "jobs," or "the economy," take a drink.
You will be shitfaced before you know it."
Too true. I could only take about 35 seconds of Eugene Robinson go on and on about race divides, "old America" vs "new America", "successful America" vs "not successful America".
They will never learn.
R&B: "Bye-bye DNC and MSM. Hope you find your way back to relevance someday"
As well to the establishment wing of the RNC.
Of course, they won't be going away but for once, once, a real message has been delivered.
Trading Maine and New Hampshire for Wisconsin and Michigan... bad trade Clinton. Always protect your flank.
It is not an improbably run.
It's... exactly the strategy Trump told you he was going to pursue.
Too true. I could only take about 35 seconds of Eugene Robinson go on and on about race divides, "old America" vs "new America", "successful America" vs "not successful America".
They will never learn.
It's astounding.
Every one of their "analyses" is similarly worthless.
Chuck Todd's.
TOm Brokaw's.
Savannah GUthrie's.
Do these motor mouths ever listen to their own broadcasts? Do a post-game analysis?
And they say TRUMP doesn't pay attention to the things he says.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA -
What is keeping Trump from building a wall? He has both houses of congress. Are the Democrats going to fillibuster?
She has a lotta flank Matt
"Is there a place we can get more Democratic votes?"
It sounds like he's begging the control room to tell him "Yes."
Toomey in PA. Senate's a lock.
She has ever been a fuckup.
"But apparently not Kelly Ayotte or Joe Heck. Oh wait, they ran away from him."
She's only behind by a thousand votes. In an earlier thread I said she was toast. Oops! I may have miscalculated.
And speaking of miscalculation: pollsters, predictors, betting markets, pundits, etc.
They sure are giving the Clinton campaign a lot of benefit of the doubt and waiting, despite saying it is improbable.
Sessions for majority leader.
Remember when Trump said that America will win so much that we will get sick of winning?
The MSM will lose so much that we will get sick of watching them lose.
Hahahahaaaha.
Dang, remember when President Obama went hard at Trump at that Correspondent's dinner? "Obama Destroys Clown Trump" and what not, remember?
That's gonna be a fun couple of days when Obama's showin' Trump around the White House, huh?
Paul Ryan needs to resign as speaker. Yesterday.
"What is keeping Trump from building a wall?"
$$$
And speaking of miscalculation: pollsters, predictors, betting markets, pundits, etc. - shilo
That's why you have to use your own capacity for critical thinking and not just accept this crap they shovel out. Intellectuals thought that WWI was a great idea!
Are the Democrats going to fillibuster?
The Democrats are DONE as a party.
Couldn't have happened to a nicer, more effective party.
Nah. Will a wall cost as much as a stretch of interstate highway? Democrats want the votes of illegals, that is what has kept a wall from being built.
Chuck Todd's still trying to figure out Clinton's 1% path to victory.
You go, Chuck! Take on the patriarchy!
Mick for the win!
Rhythm and Balls said...The MSM will lose so much that we will get sick of watching them lose.
You know what, R&B, I'll chance it...that's a risk I'm willing to take!
Where did Hillary's votes go? Are they missing?
There are hundreds of thousands of DNC primary voters in Brooklyn who are wondering the same thing.
Fabi, it looks like Mick was a sock puppet of PB&J. Hence he hasn't shown up. I hope I am wrong. I hope there really is a mick and he shows up.
Richard Engel is saying that this portends catastrophe overseas and in our foreign policy.
Hey, Dick! Where were you on these polling predictions?
Van Jones still thinks Trump is a Saturday morning cartoon villain, doesn't he?
"The Democrats are DONE as a party."
And just a week or so ago the Republicans were done as a party.
It will be interesting to see if Schummer, Pelosi, and others are moved forward or shunted to the side over the next few months.
I predict they will learn nothing.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Are the Democrats going to fillibuster?
The Democrats are DONE as a party.
They will cling to control just like the GOP did these last 8 years. It took a primal scream during the primaries to take control from those jokers. They wanted Rubio so badly.
I hope the Trump administration can put enough of them in jail to give the Bernie wing back their party.
Apparently conventional wisdom is not very wise.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Richard Engel is saying that this portends catastrophe overseas and in our foreign policy.
Because the last 20 years have been such a spectacular success right?
The Neocons are D.E.A.D.
They are going to slither into the Clinton DNC now right before it dies.
CNN calls Alaska, but they're apparently going to drag the rest of these states out, aren't they?
Pennsylvania called on CSPAN.
I am raising a glass to Mick.
@Matt S,
Van Jones still thinks Trump is a Saturday morning cartoon villain, doesn't he?
What's weird is that Jones was one of the first black pundits to notice that there was little warmth for Hillary & more than grudging respect for Trump in the black community, & that the Dems should not take the blacks for granted this time.
I think he got yelled at so much by his fellow liberals that he held a self-criticism session & publicly repented of his uppityness.
Damn if he didn't have it right the first time.
NYT's map just sent PA into dark red for Trump, putting him at 264 on their site.
I hope the Trump administration can put enough of them in jail to give the Bernie wing back their party.
Well, ok then.
Start with Donna Brazile, John Podesta, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, every DNC executive - Amy Dacey, Brad Marshall, Luis Miranda, etc.
Throw in Barney Frank, just for the hell of it.
There's a start.
I want to see Hillary concede. I want to see her accept her shame.
Ritual seppuku please.
Obama is going to be so much fun to watch these next 3 months. The tears of pricks are the tastiest.
ok, I'm getting tired and no, Soros and the DNC isn't/aren't paying me anything.
Plus they couldn't afford me.
>
One last thought, many con govs who are term limited to (2) terms are done Jan, 2019 and the next census/redistricting comes after the 2020 election ie a silver lining for Dems if/when Trump implodes.
Interesting the only current con gov who isn't term limited is Walker.
All fame is fleeting ~ just ask the Dems.
The problem with the Clinton wing of the DNC is that most of them are too plain to be remembered. I can't even recall the names of the most conspicuous cowards and liars. I guess that's part of what makes them cowards. Totally unnoteworthy.
Yeah, I guess I wouldn't mind a purge. It feels odd to have the right offering to do it for us. But I guess that really is the state of the left these days.
Hillary is just realizing she should have never, ever have let Lena Dunham campaign for her. Kiss of death.
The tears of pricks are the tastiest.
I bet you wished Althouse had an edit button.
Start with Donna Brazile, John Podesta, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, every DNC executive - Amy Dacey, Brad Marshall, Luis Miranda, etc.
I think there are hundreds of thousands of people in the Acela corridor. There are thousands of IRS agents who harassed and targetted us. The entire DOJ is a corrupt joke.
The election is over. Waiting for almost all of these other media outlets to call this is pointless.
Of the uncalled states, Trump is going to win PA, MI, AZ flat out, 100% certain. He might win NH and MN (though MN looks iffy at the moment).
Also, I don't think Clinton is even going to win the total popular vote. Obama only had a 3 million edge in CA in 2012, and turnout is going to be lower this election by my estimate, and I think Trump ends up winning the popular vote by about 400-500K.
The left is too weak to undertake their own purge.
It would be great to put Obama on the spot.
"What went wrong, Oh Great one?"
What a douchebag.
Who would have thought that when you piss on people's backs from your comfy blue redoubts, and tell them it's raining, that they would actually figure out that it is piss?
It's going to be interesting seeing a circular firing squad NOT formed by the Republicans after an election for once.
The left is so pathetic that it's too weak to even undertake it's own purge.
This is like the day you realize that Santa Claus isn't real.
eddie willers said...
The tears of pricks are the tastiest.
I bet you wished Althouse had an edit button.
Obama is a dick. I want to see him cry and wallow in pity. He wants to say I didn't built that?
Actually, I want to see him in jail for sending TS materials to Hillary's private server.
I don't know who RealClear uses for calls, but they just added PA to Trump's total giving him 277 already.
John Podesta is on his way to Javitz Center without Hillary.
RCP's front page still has 203 Clinton, 190 something Trump. You have to click through to see 277.
It's going to be interesting seeing a circular firing squad NOT formed by the Republicans after an election for once.
It will be a circle of self-flagellators promising to do more for blacks/Mexicans/women/minorities/Muslims next time. Each member of the circle will bring his/her own punishment device and mete it out upon themselves with barely perceptible gusto.
The AP called Penn for Trump. NYTs too.
Fox just said Podesta is going to speak to the Hillary crowd.
I hope that is televised.
Got a link to Podesta's comments?
I wonder if Hillary is concerned about under capitalized small businesses yet?
Oh yeah, and her speaking fees from now on? Somewhere around the motivational speaker who lives in a van by the river. Now that she has no power, who gives a flying fuck what she has to say.
Jeez, Javitz is empty.
R&B,
You and I agree on little politically I am guessing, but my hat is off to you- you are consistent, you are rational, and more importantly, you were spot on about the DNC and the Clinton Campaign when not many were.
CNN refuses to call PA.
We may find Hillary too ill to give a concession speech....
... Clinton's HQ turned off the election coverage? Did I hear that right?
Blogger Achilles said..."Paul Ryan needs to resign as speaker. Yesterday."
No. Ryan has a tax reform and budget plan this country needs. We are in a world of hurt. I know you like Sessions' immigration stand, but meh.
Oh man, none of those guys who sold their manhood to be at Hillary headquarters tonight is going to get laid.
Matthew Sablan said...
It's going to be interesting seeing a circular firing squad NOT formed by the Republicans after an election for once.
Um, what?
There are some scalps we want. Paul Ryan needs to go for example. There are 20 or so NRO writers that need to find something better to do. George Will is no longer a conservative. Kristol can eat a bag of dicks. The entire Neocon establishment. I don't want to hear or see Mitt Romney, Jeb! or any other Bush again.
We have some house cleaning to do.
Did Hillary deliver her "I'm melting! I'm melting!" speech yet?
We may find Hillary too ill to give a concession speech....
True. She had another "episode" yesterday.
The bargaining for PA is getting even more desperate CNN.
Ding fucking dong, the bitch is dead!
Tim,
CNN still hasn't called Wisconsin! They would literally have to find another hidden Dane County for Clinton to have a 50% chance to win.
Original Mike said...
Blogger Achilles said..."Paul Ryan needs to resign as speaker. Yesterday."
No. Ryan has a tax reform and budget plan this country needs. We are in a world of hurt. I know you like Sessions' immigration stand, but meh.
Paul Ryan passed Obama's budgets on voice votes. He shoved through every agenda item. Obamacare was voted on/defunded how many times? He is a known open borders shill. He runs the false flag operation of the GOPe. We just voted against that.
Clinton sent Podesta to make the concession speech. OMFG
Associated Press is giving Trump PA.
CNN cannot give up the Hillary talking points.
"Obama is going to be so much fun to watch these next 3 months."
Nah. Obama's free and clear. I don't think he's truly a big fan of Hillary.
"The tears of pricks are the tastiest."
I'm sorry, but we've already cast the role of Tobias Funke.
Looking like Clinton refuses to concede. Expect her to file lawsuits in every state Trump beat her in that she was expected to win.
Thanks Yancey.
As much as they angered and disappointed me for ignoring such crucial things as were revealed through WikiLeaks - in favor of obsessing on Trump innuendo and other trivialities, I'm finding their howling tonight to be especially pathetic. They can't even figure out what economics made this election go the way it did. Every other invention is taking over: identity politics, cultural nonsense, possible alternative candidates who never amounted to anything. It's quite astounding, frankly.
So.
Does Obama pardon Clinton?
How would you like to be the person that has to tell Hillary it's time to start writing that concession speech?
Take tonight's Senate results, and add the fact that in 2018, 25 Democrats have to defend their seats, versus only 8 Republicans.
Figures we'll get a veto proof majority only once we don't need it anymore.
Tell you what, all those cocksucker Libertarians have done is keep us awake.
@Achilles,
Clinton sent Podesta to make the concession speech. OMFG
Seriously, A, is that true? Did Podesta just go to make a "buck-it-up" speech or did he really just give the concession speech? Do you have links?
Podesta to speak.
https://www.c-span.org/election/
Here comes the tool who gave his password to hackers. Not going to concede.
Looking like Clinton refuses to concede. Expect her to file lawsuits in every state Trump beat her in that she was expected to win.
Too funny.
Will she file that case before or after the DNC fends off its lawsuit by Bernie voters whom it claims it was right to lie to about being impartial wrt candidates in the primaries - as political lies are "protected speech."
These Democrats are worse than I ever imagined. You were right about so much about them all along.
Oh crap they're not conceding tonite.
No concession...
They are dead to me
Oh. Wow.
Podesta basically said they're not conceding tonight.
I'm old enough to remember when it was important for someone to accept the result of the election. Which is, about 15 hours ago.
They are not conceding.
Podesta is such a piece of shit.
Podesta just sent the supporters home.
Tell you what, all those cocksucker Libertarians have done is keep us awake.
I proudly voted for GayJay in Ohio and it didn't make a whit of difference.
Podesta sending them home. But stay happy, y'all.
Not fit to be seen in public tonight, I'd wager. Either sickness, depression or (most likely) a burning rage.
So how did the pot reeferendas come out?
Hillary is probably at least one way too tarrred to give a speech.
If any news agency gives Trump over 270, he should call them up and offer them the chance to do a concession speech.
If they refuse, he needs to go out and give his victory speech and explain that you need to accept the results of the election.
Podesta dismisses the faithful---that guy looks like a turtle who lost his shell.
Podesta saying she's not done yet.
I'm guessing she's shopping for real estate in a country with no extradition to the US.
So how did the pot reeferendas come out?
Florida passed medical marijuana.
Well, so much for Trump not accepting the results of the election, right?
"Bottom rail on top now, eh, massa?"
I'm sorry, but we've already cast the role of Tobias Funke.
That's funny right there.
If this were Trump, this guy on CNN is right.
Van Jones: "You won."
You can see his heart breaking as he talks.
Venezuela is out. No food.
This afternoon the Media was happily speculating about what time Trump would concede and whether he would be gracious when he did so. Ha-ha-ha-ha!
Burn the studios and salt the earth where they stood.
War.
Dear MSM:
Please allow me to introduce you to the concept of something we refer to as "the rust belt."
Ever hear of it?
No?
Well that's too bad.
People there want jobs. Not identity politics.
If only they could live in your shiny Manhattan studios and read what "experts" tell them all day about what other people think/should think. Maybe they would then come to understand why their plight is so easily ignored.
Does Obama pardon Clinton?
Tough call. I would say yes, but he's gonna be damned pissed about this. He might just leave her hanging there.
Arkansas passed Medical Marijuana
Arizona looks like a no.
California is passing full legalization it looks like
Massachusetts passed legal marijuana as well.
LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!
Van Jones asking us to give Clinton time to process her loss and treat her like a human sounds... kind of crazy given how we've been told to treat Trump.
Trump should wait until Clinton concedes. What Clinton just did, though, is true to her character- classless.
Has this ever happened before? Where someone clearly about to lose checks out?
Which channel is Van Jones on?
He's an interesting cat. A total up-the-butt Hillarian - but a guy who would get why she'd lose.
If any Clintonian will make the case for an honest post-mortem, it might be him.
So how did the pot reeferendas come out?
CA passed recreational.
I don't think 'medical marijuana' is "libertarian" It's a joke. Either legalize it or not.
"Trump should wait until Clinton concedes."
-- Disagree. Give her the chance; but his supporters at his rally deserve to get a speech for their support.
Van Jones is on CNN
Does Obama pardon Clinton?
Tough call. I would say yes, but he's gonna be damned pissed about this. He might just leave her hanging there.
If Obama pardons Clinton, it means that, yes, his administration was corrupt, the FBI & DoJ were playing politics, & that the rabid Repubs were right all along.
A Clinton pardon would probably destroy the Democratic Party in the eyes of the voting public. So, I'm gonna say no, it won't happen.
Ha, CNN is pointing out that Hillary is like Nixon again. He wouldn't concede the election night either.
Obama can't pardon Clinton. That would be an admission that she is a criminal, which she is.
Rhythm and Balls said...
Which channel is Van Jones on?
He's an interesting cat. A total up-the-butt Hillarian - but a guy who would get why she'd lose.
If any Clintonian will make the case for an honest post-mortem, it might be him.
He called it a whitelash. He whined about how hard it would be to send his kids to bed and how he was getting emails from Muslims asking him if they should leave.
What Van is trying to say is Hillary needs to sober up before she can concede.
Think of the tears flowing at Facebook and Google.
Yeah, Van Jones had no comment as to why black voters sat on their hands.
Oh. Wait.
Jones used the word, "white-lash."
Ok Van. Looks like you're going to refuse to get it also.
Enjoy that wilderness.
It's not so hard to get. Someone cares about my job and someone else didn't. End of story. Maybe if Van wasn't such a bigshot he'd understand.
Had she won, I think a pardon would have been automatic. The people have spoken, it's best for the country if she starts out with a clean slate, nothing hanging over her head, yada yada yada.
What Van is trying to say is Hillary needs to sober up before she can concede.
I bet that she's apoplectic with rage. How dare those stupid motherfucking voters not make me president! And to be beat by that shit....
Howard: "What Van is trying to say is Hillary needs to sober up before she can concede"
You've got that right.
And, quite frankly, I wouldn't blame her for tying one on.
"If any Clintonian will make the case for an honest post-mortem, it might be him."
Michael Moore knew what was up.
When Obama was reelected my neighbor, a black woman, stood in the cul-de-sac and screamed, "Praise God, thank you Jesus, thank you Jesus!"
Pardon me for a moment, I've got to go wake up a few people.
Wow. The non-concession concession speech when you're getting blown out. By the campaign manager being offered up as the sacrificial scapegoat.
Just when you think these people can't go any lower, they grab some dynamite and start blasting and digging the hole deeper.
The numbers aren't going to look any better tomorrow for Team Hillary, and even flipping one state won't change the results in the Electoral College.
At this point the question I have to ask is whether she's negotiating a Presidential Pardon, because with the destruction of her political career, she's opened herself up for a renewal of the FBI investigation. Probably not a lot of her friends and allies who will want to fall on the grenade for her now.
No. I think she's just digging in her heels like she did when she lost to Obama and tried to flip super delegates.
Ha! The president elect arrives! I hope he takes it seriously. I personally think he is ADHD, but I hope he overcomes it. Who knows? But at least the Justice Department an the IRS are going to get an attempt at a housecleaning.
@Scott,
Probably not a lot of her friends and allies who will want to fall on the grenade for her now.
Not only that, think about all the suckers who gave her over a billion dollars & now have absolutely jack-shit to show for it!
You can't stand at a lectern in the middle of the Schottenstein Center in Columbus, Ohio and tell the audience you're going to put a lot of coal companies (and miners) out of business and expect to win Ohio, Kentucky, West Virginia, or Pennsylvania.
Imagine a 55-year-old coal miner hearing that. He's got to put food on the table for at least 10-12 more years. It's all he's known and all he's done. He's worked his ass off for 30 years. He's going to suddenly learn how to do something else that will pay as much for his expertise?
How the hell does he pull a lever for that person?
Someone cares about my job and someone else didn't. - R&B
Obviously you and I deeply disagree about solutions, but at least we agree on the problem.
Drago: "And, quite frankly, I wouldn't blame her for tying one on."
You know that they had the NYT numbers early... she probably started at 5pm with Chablis, then Rose, then Martinis followed by Tequila shots at midnight.
Is it too soon for a Trump-Clinton porno? Maybe when Laslo gets up he can do something.
Obamacare was a Pyrrhic victory, in fact, they may stop calling them that, they might start calling them an "Obmacare victory."
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