July 18, 2016

The GOP convention begins.

Let's talk about it.

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David Begley said...

Mrs. Smith hit a home run.

Clayton Hennesey said...

We already know Martha Nussbaum won't be in the nude holding a mirror. What's left?

Kathryn51 said...

You missed the only excitement over the Rules. Preibus threatened states with loss of funding if they didn't pull their name from roll call request. Now we are into non-stop speeches for next four days

David said...

I think Eisenhower will win by acclamation. It's really no contest.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
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Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

I find older people dancing to rock music vaguely disturbing. Not sure what the issue is.

Michael The Magnificent said...

Watching on public television, with commentary from National Proletariat Radio and Proletariat Broadcasting System hosts Mara Liasson, Judy Woodruff, Gwen Ifill,
David Brooks, Mark Shields, and Amy Walter from Cook Political Report.

Michael The Magnificent said...

And they broke to report on the axe-wielding Afghani in Germany!

David Begley said...

C-SPAN coverage is superior.

Jon Ericson said...

@ AReasonableMan:
See your local health department for a recommendation for a mental health consultation.
You must be young.

Original Mike said...

"And they broke to report on the axe-wielding Afghani in Germany!"

What was Mohammed's last name this time?

Heartless Aztec said...

Milo is FABULOUS. Down on his knees indeed. Too funny.

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Anonymous said...

Good God, could the Republican Party sink any lower? Politicizing the grief of Mrs.Smith, the mother of the contractor that was killed in Benghazi. Disgusting use of this poor woman. Shameful. Someone should've led that woman off stage much sooner. Very sad to see such a spectacle.

Jon Ericson said...

Ah! Must add Georgiana to my No Profile file.
*typity type type type*

mockturtle said...

ARM I find older people dancing to rock music vaguely disturbing. Not sure what the issue is.

We grew up with rock music, ARM. What would expect? A waltz?

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rcocean said...

I thought you were going to watch the damn thing and give us the highlights?

I'd watch it myself, except i have to rearrange my sock drawer.

Anonymous said...

Fox News broke away from Mrs.Smith's speech to put on Donald Trump who called into the show right at the moment this poor woman was speaking.

rcocean said...

Wake me up when Trump speaks. Or when they hang Bill Kristol.

In effigy, of course.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

" I find older people dancing to rock music vaguely disturbing. Not sure what the issue is."

Get back to us in 20 years. We'll talk.

Chuck said...

On Fox, Donald Trump called in to Bill O'Reilly and did an interview live over the phone. Naturally, a seemingly surprised O'Reilly put Trump on on-air. For the usual nothingburger interview.

Then a very interesting thing happened. After the Trump interview concluded, O'Reilly went to Brit Hume in Cleveland. And Hume had a great observation; while Trump and O'Reilly were gabbing, they missed the live coverage of the mother of one of the Benghazi contractors (the lady who was lied to and lied about by Hillary Clinton in the "videotape" aftermath-story). Hume, as he has done before (and who gets a kick out of it, I think) totally flummoxed O'Reilly. And as a result, after the next break, O'Reilly's producers put on that part of her speech, that they had missed for the Trump phone interview.

It is really quite interesting to see how FNC walks the line between news organization, Trump promotion, and a kind of Drudge channel.

traditionalguy said...

AT&T Uverse has an RNC channel that shows the whole thing with better camera angles and sound. Meanwhile the Cable TV guys are all, FOX included, censoring most of the speakers and films the GOP is running by substituting burned out morons pretending to be explaining things, that are wrong anyway.

Anonymous said...

Oh dear God capitalizing on the grief of yet another parent of child that was killed. Republican Party has truly bottomed out.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Good God, could the Democrat Party sink any lower? Leaving four brave men to die in Benghazi and then lying to their survivors!

David Begley said...

Jamiel Shaw very, very powerful speaking about the murder of his son by an illegal alien gang banger who never should have been in this country.

mockturtle said...

These network pundits think their 'analysis' is more interesting than the speeches. A lot like the golf commentators who think people tune in to a golf tournament to watch the guys in the booth bullshit rather than watching golf being played. THEY want to be the story. I'd like to drop them all off a cliff.

mccullough said...

They should have held the convention last week during the MLB all star break.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

The NPR and the RNC streams are quite different. Not sure which is 'live'. On the NPR stream two parents of children killed by illegal immigrants spoke and were very effective.

Big Mike said...

Politicizing the grief of Mrs.Smith, the mother of the contractor that was killed in Benghazi. Disgusting use of this poor woman. ... Very sad to see such a spectacle.

She's not grief-stricken; she's furious with Hillary and the Dumbocrats and her rage is what keeps her going. Very sad that there had to be such a spectacle -- that Hillary would ignore requests for more security in Benghazi and that she lie to the woman's face. But lying is not merely natural for Hillary Clinton; mendacity is her default mode. She lies even when she doesn't have to, and she lies when everyone knows she's lying. All politicians lie; Hillary raises lying to an art form.

And this woman is calling her on it.

Limited blogger said...

CNN's Axelrod just called it a 'hate fest'.

These guys have no connection to reality and truth.

pm317 said...

More importantly why did Trump preempt Mrs Smith?

theribbonguy said...

"C-SPAN coverage is superior."

That depends. If you want to watch the talking heads talk over the convention speakers then the alphabet channels are a better bet, otherwise, ya..c-span.

Kathryn51 said...

Georgiana, I'll be watching for your post next week when the Dems feature the mom of Michael Brown.

Original Mike said...

Thanks for the C-SPAN headsup. The commentator-talk is ridiculous.

Michael The Magnificent said...

Four dead in O-hi-o?

How about four dead in Ben-gha-zi!

One hundred and twenty eight dead in Paris!

Fourteen dead in San Bernardino

Eighty four dead in Nice!

Fifty dead in Or-land-o!

Three dead in Batton Rouge!

Baltimore on fire!

Ferguson on fire!

Three dead in Boston!

Two police assasinated in New York City!

David Begley said...

Axelrod needs a new line. Has any hate been expressed tonight? Liar.

Michael The Magnificent said...

And yes, let's talk about the dead bodies due to Obama's "Fast and Furious" guns for Mexican drug cartels!

My God, the Democrats can fuck up a wet dream! Too inebriated with the idea of eliminating the 2nd amendment to care about the harm they've caused letting guns walk across the border.

Michael The Magnificent said...

"What was Mohammed's last name this time?"

Like NPR/PBS would tell you. He was a "17 year old from Afghanistan."

They did also report on Gavin Long's shooting of three Baton Rouche officers.

David Begley said...

I've noticed this recently at concerts and am seeing this again tonight. People shouting out and becoming part of the show. I didn't pay good money to hear someone interrupt Bonnie Riatt's singing.

Michael The Magnificent said...

Question: Given that the RNC has given NPR/PBS a booth from which to report, what are the odds that the DNC will do the same for Fox News?

Original Mike said...

I believe MSNBC has a booth.

Anonymous said...

Kathryn51,

I will criticize them equally if they use these parents' grief in a political way. I find it disgusting.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...


AReasonableMan said...
I find older people dancing to rock music vaguely disturbing.

I agree.

WAsn't middle-aged white woman Vicki saying something about the lameness of dancing middle-aged white women?


http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Hillary+dancing+at+rally&view=detail&mid=91F5C728B20B80BA447B91F5C728B20B80BA447B&FORM=VIRE

rcocean said...

Trump, trump, trump, the boys are marching,
Cheer up comrades they will come,
And beneath the starry flag
We shall breathe the air again,
Of the freeland in our own beloved home.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

People react most strongly to change and crime rates are flat or falling and have been for decades. Not sure how effective 'make America safe again' will be in that context.

Michael The Magnificent said...

Georgiana, do you trolls get paid by the post, or by the hour?

Hahahaha!

Carol said...

I find older people dancing to rock music vaguely disturbing.

Gee rock has been around, what, 60 years now? And that's from when whites discovered it.

shiloh said...

"CNN's Axelrod just called it a 'hate fest'.

These guys have no connection to reality and truth."

Indeed, the only reality Axelrod is familiar with is winning presidential elections.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Georgiana said...
Oh dear God capitalizing on the grief of yet another parent of child that was killed. Republican Party has truly bottomed out.

I'm sure Georgiana will be very upset when the Dems capitalize on the grief of parents of children who were killed when they parade the mothers of blacks shot by police (including the mom of the saintly Michael Brown) on TV.

Actually, no, I am sure Georgiana won't give a shit.

narciso said...

good god, chris stevens was her hand picked emissary to the rebels, they were alive to slaughter and mutilate because of the air strikes, that red queen and rice and power ordered, these are policy considerations, but on a signature night nearly four years ago, they were abandoned to the mobs, and the same libyan officers who were disdained saved geist, paranto and company,

MadisonMan said...

Not sure how effective 'make America safe again' will be in that context.

The Media and the Internet has made America seem very very unsafe what with all the gun wackos running around, regardless of actual crime rates.

It's also difficult to think America is safe when terrorist attacks are occurring in Europe with such frequency.

Will Cate said...

Sheriff David Clarke's speech was awesome.

Rick said...

Georgiana said...
Good God, could the Republican Party sink any lower? Politicizing the grief of Mrs.Smith, the mother of the contractor that was killed in Benghazi. Disgusting use of this poor woman. Shameful. Someone should've led that woman off stage much sooner. Very sad to see such a spectacle.


You have to wonder where Georgiana was during the decade Democrats paraded Cindy Sheehan around. Probably the same place she is now, minimum wage staffer drawing blog duty.

Mary Beth said...

I was in the car so I listened to some of it on the public radio station. It was pretty funny - people who've been implying that Trump is the next Hitler are accusing the Republicans of fear-mongering.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

AReasonableMan said...
People react most strongly to change and crime rates are flat or falling and have been for decades. Not sure how effective 'make America safe again' will be in that context"

Are people feeling safe these days? The Dems have long known that perception trumps (no pun intended) stats - which is why they are ignoring that more whites are killed by police than blacks.

I believe it will be very effective. People I talk to are afraid and I know more liberals than conservatives.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"and crime rates are flat or falling and have been for decades. Not sure how effective 'make America safe again' will be in that context."

Fill in the blanks:

Al_ah_ A_kb_r

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Probably the same place she is now, minimum wage staffer drawing blog duty.

7/18/16, 8:50 PM

Perhaps she was still in grade school.

Chuck said...

Big Mike said...
"Politicizing the grief of Mrs.Smith, the mother of the contractor that was killed in Benghazi. Disgusting use of this poor woman. ... Very sad to see such a spectacle."

She's not grief-stricken; she's furious with Hillary and the Dumbocrats and her rage is what keeps her going. Very sad that there had to be such a spectacle -- that Hillary would ignore requests for more security in Benghazi and that she lie to the woman's face. But lying is not merely natural for Hillary Clinton; mendacity is her default mode. She lies even when she doesn't have to, and she lies when everyone knows she's lying. All politicians lie; Hillary raises lying to an art form.

And this woman is calling her on it.


Amen to that, Big Mike. And as someone else rightly noted; the DNC is putting on Michael Brown's mother in their convention. It is a thoroughly disgusting comparison for the Democrats in that regard.


wildswan said...


In Germany a 17 year old migrant/asylum seeker from Afghanistan who shouted Allahu Akbar attacked people on a train with an axe. We may never know what caused the attack.

In Cleveland the racist Republicans continued to be nasty and stupid - Trump supporters beat back the never-Trumpers or something. We may never know why anybody is a Republican.

I am practicing for a job as a reporter - so far it seems pretty simple. You will never know when you see me on TV is disguise that it is Me. Or it is I, if you will. Though if you overhear a low murmur - we may never know, we may never know - ah, then, you WILL know. But don't blow my cover.

We may never know

Guildofcannonballs said...

Sessions intro quite clearly had AG from "MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN" superimposed on Sessions himself as the AG.

Rest well all, we got this thing in the bag.

I am streaming the RNC on YouTube.

Just stopped....

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

Disappointed in the trolling effort tonight. Just one extremely lame ignoid with some tepid faux indignation?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Dude doesn't know why...

I missed Sessions...

Used to drink Sessions beer...

He's back on!

mockturtle said...

Good one, wildswan. The BBC reported that, while the perpetrator shouted 'Allahu Akbar' during the attack, 'the motive is not yet clear'. Clueless or disingenuous?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Code Pnk?

Guildofcannonballs said...

They ought be scared.

Ought bE willing to risk moRe than what they have and are.

They can't.

Ergo.

pm317 said...
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Bay Area Guy said...

Giuliani is screaming at the audience. Rudy!


David Begley said...

Rudy on fire.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Rudy doesn't ain't not never reverse-styled-credulity done nuttin'.

Ergo, why listen to him?


What's he ever done?

mockturtle said...

Rudy on fire.

Wow, he certainly is speaking passionately!

Limited blogger said...

Never saw Rudy like this. It's actually working.

Limited blogger said...

Rudy calling Donald "A good man", is nicely put subtle, but strong praise.

Bay Area Guy said...

... and the Sonabitch was born in Kenya!!!!

Hagar said...

The DNC will also have Trayvon Martin's mother, Sybrina Fulton.

Why don't they also show the "stepdads"?
Especially Michael Brown's "Let's burn this mother down!" Louis Head.

Bay Area Guy said...

The NPR commentators are not jivin' with Rudy's boisterous orations.

theribbonguy said...

You go Rudy..just damn! He's certainly bringing it.

Birches said...

Georgiana is hilarious.

Although, do you feel a sense of gratification that your blog warrants paid commenters? I'd be proud.

theribbonguy said...

If Hildabeast is watching Rudy she's also screaching at Human for another vodka martini.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Blogger Bay Area Guy said...
The NPR commentators are not jivin' with Rudy's boisterous orations

Oh, now, that's a surprise.

Bay Area Guy said...

Bob Dole is 91! And his trousers are pulled way up to his chest, like my Grandpa.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Rudy ran out of puff about half way through his speech. Either the speech had to be shorter or he had to be in better shape.

Limited blogger said...

"we're gonna win, we're gonna win so big"

theribbonguy said...

Human=Huma ..damn autocorrect.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

And the Donald appears. I thought conventions were like weddings, where it is bad luck to see the bride before the wedding.

Bay Area Guy said...

Trump introducing Melania to "We are the Champions" by Queen.

Chuck said...

Melania: This is like an SNL sketch.

Chuck said...

On a more serious note with Melania, this speech is such a great tribute to American immigrants.

Did anybody think about that?

Anonymous said...

My Donald, he treats de peoples vid respect! I vorked so hard to catch rich American man.

Limited blogger said...

The first lady in waiting is quite poised, passionate, patriotic and PRETTY.

Sofa King said...

"He will never ever let you down."
Never going to run around and desert you.

Anonymous said...

My husband, he is so rich because he doesn't pay de people's who vork for him. Now he vill vork for you! I love my Donald's money.

theribbonguy said...

"Did anybody think about that?"

Legal immigration has been a recurring theme tonight. So ya..pretty much everybody except "Never Trump" dipshits.

Anonymous said...

My Donald, he has beeg heart and small hands, oh I mean beeg hands.

Jon Ericson said...

@Fanniefarmer:
So you work for Kim Kardashian, or just grow potatoes?

Guildofcannonballs said...

Bob Dole got up.

Ha.

Joe Biden though....

Stand up Chuck, let 'em see ya.


Stand up:;


OH.

God bless ya Chuck.

God bless ya.

Anonymous said...

My hasband, he loves de Muslims!

Chuck said...

I keep thinking this is a dream sequence from an episode of "Green Acres" where Oliver (Eddie Albert) dreams of being nominated for president and Lisa (Eva Gabor) is doing a nominating speech where the speech was written by Mr. Haney.

Anonymous said...

I am thankful for the simple mind God gave to my hasband.

theribbonguy said...

Fanniefarmer..welcome!! You've doubled the evenings troll count.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Before you Americans get on your High Horse, remember, Attca.

K.

ATTICA.


FUCKING. ASS AATTICCA BITCH.


ATTICCA.

MaxedOutMama said...

Melania is doing a very good job.

Jon Ericson said...

Naw, It's Georgiana.
Hey there Georgie girl!

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

Chuck said...
I keep thinking this is a dream sequence from an episode of "Green Acres" where Oliver (Eddie Albert) dreams of being nominated for president and Lisa (Eva Gabor) is doing a nominating speech where the speech was written by Mr. Haney.


I have to admit that my first thought when she began speaking also went in this direction. I fought that impulse.

Anonymous said...

My hasband believes in showing kindness for de Muslims and de Mexicans.

Chuck said...

From back in March; from the National Review. "Deport Melania Trump."

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/432679/donald-trump-melania-trump-immigration-h1b-visa

Limited blogger said...

Will the first dude, Slick Willie, be able top this? Doubt it. He'll be talking about feeling our pain, and doing the people's work, not having sex with that woman, Ms. Lewinski, and all that BS.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...
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Known Unknown said...

"And the Donald appears. I thought conventions were like weddings, where it is bad luck to see the bride before the wedding."

Trump is not uh, keen, on acting like the run-of-the-mill candidate, if you hadn't noticed.

Bay Area Guy said...

Melania has a thick foreign accent (Czech?), but she is saying good things.

Beloved Commenter AReasonableMan said...

It wasn't a train wreck, what are the odds that we will be able to say the same thing about Bill Clinton's speech in a weeks time?

narciso said...

actually it's yugoslav, the part of the country least touched by the civil war,

Luke Lea said...

Not since Jackie.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Blogger Chuck said...
On a more serious note with Melania, this speech is such a great tribute to American immigrants.

Did anybody think about that?


7/18/16, 9:28 PM

She was a legal immigrant, was she not?

And admit it, after 8 years of looking at Michele Sourpuss...

pm317 said...

This Flynn person has turned into a Trump sycophant.

Chuck said...

This is like a drinking game with me; mention The Donald, Melania, Bill and Hillary in the same thread, and you get this:

https://static01.nyt.com/images/2015/12/30/us/politics/TRUMPBILL/TRUMPBILL-facebookJumbo-v2.jpg

mockturtle said...

@Chuck: On a more serious note with Melania, this speech is such a great tribute to American immigrants. Did anybody think about that?

What is your point, Chuck? Trump has never been against LEGAL immigration. His parents and wife are all LEGAL immigrants.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Fanniefarmer said...
My Donald, he treats de peoples vid respect! I vorked so hard to catch rich American man.

7/18/16, 9:28 PM

Hillary: My Bill, he treats the women with respect! Well, OK ,maybe not! But I put up with it because I had my ambition, damnit!

You know, troll, it's easy to be cynical about the Trumps - until you consider the Clinton marriage.


David Begley said...

Mrs. Trump was proud of this country from day one on these shores.

Known Unknown said...

"It wasn't a train wreck, what are the odds that we will be able to say the same thing about Bill Clinton's speech in a weeks time?"

Bill will most likely be good, unless he harbors a resentment toward Hillary trying to be President, in which he may throw the speech.

theribbonguy said...

"actually it's yugoslav"

Actually its Slovenia, right next to Czechoslovakia. An areas that lived under the boots of fascists for decades.

mockturtle said...

Melania's speech was excellent and she seems like a truly lovely person in every respect. I'm looking forward to her tenure as First Lady.

Anonymous said...

We must crush the Mexicans!

eric said...

Blogger Kathryn51 said...
Georgiana, I'll be watching for your post next week when the Dems feature the mom of Michael Brown.


This is different. The RNC is using a woman who's son was a hero. He shouldn't have been killed. He should have received help instead of been abandoned by this administration.

The DNC is using a woman who's son was a thug. He might have been helped, but those who could help him are Democrats, and sadly, if they get him help and out of the ghetto, they lose his vote.

See? Totally different.

Anonymous said...

Our troops are distracted by which bathroom to use, oh the confusion!

pm317 said...

We survived 8 years of Bush. We survived 8 years of Obama. We will survive 4 years of either of these two.

narciso said...

chuck doesn't have a point, he wanders aimlessly, it's an imperfect parallel with sarkozy's second wife carla bruni, and berlusconi's who was a flight attendant if memory serves,

eric said...

Blogger Chuck said...
On a more serious note with Melania, this speech is such a great tribute to American immigrants.

Did anybody think about that?


Isn't that the point? We want immigrants like Melania Trump. We want immigrants.

Trump wants immigrants and immigration.

The disagreement with the Democrats is, do we want rule of law where our immigration is concerned (And just about everything else these days) or do we want a wild wild west where those who make it in get to stay?

Think about what you're arguing for here, Chuck.

Paco Wové said...

Could it be....? Why, yes. "Georgiana" has the exact same ID as good old "Amanda". Hi, Amanda! Trying out a new identity? But your old one was so popular!

Jon Ericson said...

In a couple of days they come and
Take me away
But the press let the story leak
And when the radical priest
Come to get me released
We was all on the cover of Newsweek

shiloh said...

"Rudy ran out of puff about half way through his speech."

Rudy's disingenuous passion er bs worked well in 2008/2012. Oh wait! Tonight he went for the hat-trick. Best wishes on his quest!

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Blogger eric said...
Blogger Kathryn51 said...
Georgiana, I'll be watching for your post next week when the Dems feature the mom of Michael Brown.

This is different. The RNC is using a woman who's son was a hero. He shouldn't have been killed. He should have received help instead of been abandoned by this administration.

The DNC is using a woman who's son was a thug. He might have been helped, but those who could help him are Democrats, and sadly, if they get him help and out of the ghetto, they lose his vote.

See? Totally different."

Exactly. The GOP parade the mother of fallen heroes, a woman who was betrayed by Hillary. The Dems will parade the mpthers of criminals.

trumpintroublenow said...

Chachi?? A B-rank TV actor from 35 years ago? Isn't Clint Eastwood still alive?

Lewis Wetzel said...

Hey, America, I have an idea!
Before we import a few hundred thousand or million refugees from Islamic nations, let's look at the experience of other non-Islamic nations that have done that, and publicly debate the pros and cons, and then have a vote?
It's an idea so crazy it just might just work!

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Blogger Steve Uhr said...
Chachi?? A B-rank TV actor from 35 years ago?

7/18/16, 9:59 PM

Hey, the GOP has Melania.

Jon Ericson said...

Those wimminz love Chachi.

shiloh said...

Isn't Clint Eastwood still alive?

Michael Fitzgerald said...

Chuck said...
I keep thinking this is a dream sequence from an episode of "Green Acres" where Oliver (Eddie Albert) dreams of being nominated for president and Lisa (Eva Gabor) is doing a nominating speech where the speech was written by Mr. Haney.
7/18/16, 9:35 PM

LOL! The speech would have been written by Arnold Ziffle...

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Blogger pm317 said...
We survived 8 years of Bush. We survived 8 years of Obama. We will survive 4 years of either of these two.

7/18/16, 9:52 PM

No, the Republic will not survive 4 years of Hillary.

Chuck said...

Oh no eric; don't try to run that one by me.

Trump doesn't want ANY immigrants if they are going to undercut American wages. Like, uh, Slovenian models working for $10k a year on H1B visas.

No, eric; standard-issue Republicans are for immigration to help fill U.S. jobs that aren't being filled by Americans, and for immigrants with special talents and skills, and special motivations as entrepreneurs to enter the country legally. To work. But not with motivations for wholesale grants of U.S. citizenship.

The Trump-Teabag crowd accuses Republicans of being for "open borders" in all of that.

And yes, eric you've got it right that Democrats have pretty much gone for lawlessness (combined with the old "pathway to citizenship" for all of their Undocumented Democrats). No argument there.

The standard congessional Republican position on immigration -- you know, Mike Pence's position -- has been right all along. The pro-citizenship Democrats are full of shit but so are the wall-building Trumpkins.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

When Bill Clinton comes on the stage, everyone of those people will be applauding a rapist.

oh wait - wrong convention.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Paco Wové said...
Could it be....? Why, yes. "Georgiana" has the exact same ID as good old "Amanda". Hi, Amanda! Trying out a new identity? But your old one was so popular!

7/18/16, 9:56 PM

And just as charming and logical! Not a hypocrite at all!

Michael Fitzgerald said...

David Begley said...
Mrs. Trump was proud of this country from day one on these shores.
7/18/16, 9:48 PM

Hear! Hear!

Guildofcannonballs said...

What else could I be?

All apologies.

I wish I was like you,

Easily Amused.

In the Sun,

In the Sun....

Jon Ericson said...

Oh, yeah, Althouses' student, Amanda.

Dear corrupt left, go F yourselves said...

Hillary is a liar. She lies about everything. The list is so long. All the people who applaud her are applauding a liar.

Guildofcannonballs said...

Apologies: Nirvana gets the credit here.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Chuck:

You're actually using the leftist term "teabag?"

You phony. You asshole. Code Pink loons are better than you. They're honest.

Jon Ericson said...

Moar lithium, dude.

buwaya said...

Melania is beautiful.
And if you had to listen to me you'd laugh at my accent too.

Bay Area Guy said...

NPR just had a reporter outside the convention showing a group of West Ohio guys, roaming around openly carrying arms. Culture clash! The NPR guy seemed kinda nervous.

Jon Ericson said...

So what time does the troll get drunk? I can't wait all night!

shiloh said...

This is only the first night kids ~ please try to pace yourselves for the long haul.

Interesting 2008/2012 convention(s) were over a month later ie both conventions this year will be longgg forgotten by election day.

But both Cleveland/Philadelphia appreciate the extra influx of income.

>

btw, the last time Reps held a convention in Cleveland FDR defeated Landon 61/37.

Bay Area Guy said...

@Shiloh,

Speaking of historical conventions, do you remember Chicago in '68 when liberal Dems rioted outside their own Dem convention, causing mayhem, televised to the public, who were so repulsed they gave Nixon a 1 point victory over Humphrey?

Thanks, Dems!

Lewis Wetzel said...

So. after Trump wins, he should tell Michelle Obama to name a country she is more proud of then the US, and to go there. She has to pick a country, and she has to go. It would be lawless, but very popular, and Trump is a populist.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Speaking of historical conventions, do you remember Chicago in '68 when liberal Dems rioted outside their own Dem convention, causing mayhem, televised to the public, who were so repulsed they gave Nixon a 1 point victory over Humphrey?

Thanks, Dems!

7/18/16, 10:20 PM

Camille Paglia has noted that Dems do not seem to remember their own history. Why would they? If they remembered history they wouldn't be leftists.

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Fabi said...

Chuck@8:57 -- That's twice in as many days that we are in absolute agreement.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

"Julio said...
We must crush the Mexicans!"

Julio? Seriously? Was Juan taken? Fernando is a little less common, plus you'll get the attention of all the ABBA fans on the blog. Pedro is a personal favorite of mine 'cause I watch Napoleon Dynamite, like, three times a year. Love that movie. Adios amigos!

mockturtle said...

exiledonmainstreet: Camille Paglia has noted that Dems do not seem to remember their own history. Why would they? If they remembered history they wouldn't be leftists.

Exactly!

Original Mike said...

Yeah, "teabag", Chuck? What Tea Party principles do you disagree with? Smaller government? Less federal borrowing? Opposition to ObamaCare?

Just curious.

shiloh said...

"Thanks, Dems!"

You're welcome. Mentioned previously most "experts" agree as discombobulated as the Dems were in '68, ***if*** the campaign had lasted one more week, Humphrey would have won. One of the not so dirty little secrets is many RFK supporters voted for Wallace.

Wallace running 3rd party basically gave the election to Nixon and it was still very close 43.4 ~ 42.7.

Didn't start following elections "closely" until '72. Interesting Nixon got 49.55 in '60 and lost. 43.4 in '68 and won.

As always, the yin and yang of politics ...

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

Original Mike said...
Yeah, "teabag", Chuck? What Tea Party principles do you disagree with? Smaller government? Less federal borrowing? Opposition to ObamaCare?'

Life-long Republican Chuck.

Fabi said...

Georgiana / Erika / Miriam / Amanda / Inga / Annie? My fingers hurt.

Lewis Wetzel said...

Can you imagine the horror that Trump must feel when he gets into bed next to that immigrant wife of his at night?
Must make his skin crawl.
I mean, the rest of us dogs could shack up with a Mexican hooker until the feeling passed (like Rip Torn in The Larry Sanders Show), but Dee--Jay can't even do that. It would be against his principles.
Trump is going to win big in November, Democrats. So big.

Sprezzatura said...

I missed the big show, but I'll assume that the cons told us that BHO is a secret Muslim who hates America, cops and whites.

Sebastian said...

So, considering the highlight of day one, should a nominee's choice of spouse affect one's judgment of his/her character? If so, methinks Trump beats Hill handily.

Of course, I have said a few unkind things about T on this very blog. But I don't understand why the #NeverTrump people prefer to see the woman-abusing grifter and his serially law-breaking wife back in the WH.

Sprezzatura said...

And, presumably America would be safe if HRC goes to jail because she sent three emails that had subsections that were marked the lowest level of Classified (w/ the letter "C" written in the margin), but State says two of these weren't actually Classified.



Lewis Wetzel said...

"LeDouanier", huh? That's a funny name . . . for AN AMERICAN!
Go back to Quebec, you frozen frog. The chef says your poutine is ready.

Original Mike said...

Hillary set up her private server so you couldn't read her work product while she was the top foreign policy official of your government, PBJ. You don't have a problem with that?

Jon Ericson said...

And thank you to all our No Profile trolls:

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Sprezzatura said...

O.M.

The concern should be that she was so stupid in her attempts to avoid scrutiny. But, in the end she ended up w/ tons more scrutiny. Why not just skip email, like so many other pols. And, why is it that the most secrecy-paraniod pols (e.g. HRC and RMN), who are not actually dumb, are such total failures in the pursuit of their secrecy?

Anywho, at least HRC did show unusual wisdom (for a pol) by not trying to do the cover up thing, which is what always seems to be the downfall for pols who think they're so smart.

M Jordan said...

Melania was the star of the night. Nothing else really matters. The others did a good job but it went on way too long.

But Melania was the star ... did I mention that?

jg said...

Trolls here are phony confirmation-biased haters. We couldn't care less about you or your 'insights'. Trump's showmanship is off the charts. Great convention. Yes, Cruz, Romney, Ryan, and Bush(es) can't really be trusted to *truly* support him. So what? Good people do.

Original Mike said...

"Anywho, at least HRC did show unusual wisdom (for a pol) by not trying to do the cover up thing,"

Are you for real?

And as to my question, your answer is apparently "No".

Sprezzatura said...

"Melania was the star of the night. Nothing else really matters. The others did a good job but it went on way too long.

But Melania was the star ... did I mention that?"

So, I guess her speech writers, who plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech did a good job, in your opinion.

Sprezzatura said...

O.M.

My answer is strongly "No." The one email correctly marked the lowest level of "Classified" (in the margin of the body of an email) that HRC sent is a total BS story.

You can get your panties in a bunch, if you think that works for you.

cubanbob said...

PBandJ_LeDouanier said...
And, presumably America would be safe if HRC goes to jail because she sent three emails that had subsections that were marked the lowest level of Classified (w/ the letter "C" written in the margin), but State says two of these weren't actually Classified.



7/18/16, 10:54 PM"

So you are voting for the FBI certified liar, the grossly negligent incompetent and the grifter, criminal and traitor? Funny even the corrupted FBI laid out a rather compelling recital of her crimes- hardly the nonsense you delude yourself with and yes America would be much safer if she and her corrupt gang did go to jail as an example to the others or do you think the law only applies to the little people?

Original Mike said...

"My answer is strongly "No." The one email correctly marked the lowest level of "Classified" (in the margin of the body of an email) that HRC sent is a total BS story."

My question asked nothing about classified material, and I think you are smart enough to know that. Why the evasion?

M Jordan said...

"So, I guess her speech writers, who plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech did a good job, in your opinion."

Did I they plagiarize the part about her becoming a U. S. citizen and it being the greatest thing in the world?

I'm guessing no.

Chuck said...

exiledonmainstreet said...
Original Mike said...
Yeah, "teabag", Chuck? What Tea Party principles do you disagree with? Smaller government? Less federal borrowing? Opposition to ObamaCare?'

Life-long Republican Chuck.


In this context, my big gripe is with those who claim to be Republicans, but who have spent years bashing Republican leadership for being "open borders" and for "amnesty." Haley Barbour has commented on this; how much time and effort he has had to expend, answering complaints from the Nativist Right.

Rush Limbaugh has commented on the phenomenon; and the more Rush talks about it, the more I think Haley Barbour had it exactly right.

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016/06/15/haley_barbour_and_mitch_mcconnell_blame_your_host_for_the_gop_s_failures

The Republican leaders who have been savaged by their isolationist right flank on the issue of immigration have done more fighting with pro-amnesty Democrats than anyone knows.

Sprezzatura said...

CubanB,

What the FBI laid almost totaly related to emails that were sent to HRC, when you separate what she sent v what she received. Which means that if cons want to continue to make this seem like a massive security breech, they must go after all the folks that sent all this info to an unclassified system. If you only go after HRC for one email that had the letter "C" (for the lowest level of classification) next to a particular section in the body of a single email, you've totally admitted that you're political hacks rather than genuinely concerned about who was sending secret info to unsafe email accounts.

Original Mike said...

What's with the teabag slur?

Josephbleau said...

Anywho, at least HRC did show unusual wisdom (for a pol) by not trying to do the cover up thing, which is what always seems to be the downfall for pols who think they're so smart.

Hillary had the whole State Dept. to delay, and otherwise ignore FOIA with J Kerry's support so why did she need to cover up herself?

Jon Ericson said...

See Chuck @ 7/18/16, 10:05 PM for teabag slur. :-D

Sprezzatura said...

O.M.

I focused on the classified stuff, because that actually matters to our country.

Other than the classified stuff, to me the only thing that is concerning about her email server is that this proves she's not very good at knowing how to hide stuff. Like RMN and his tapes.

OTOH, I suppose we should more be more worried about the pols who do know how to cover their tracks. The hubris of HRC and RMN seem to allow the public to figure out what they're up to. Simpler pols just don't use email or tapes: which is trickier to crack.

Josephbleau said...

That is why a ed Judge is deciding if she needs to be deposed under oath. I think that the "Justice" will decide that our betters don't need to testify, so it goes.

narciso said...

right of course if it wasn't for one romanian taxi driver, with a sniffer set, we wouldn't even know she had operating an insecure private server for half a decade,

Original Mike said...

My biggest issue is avoidance of FOIA. Completely unacceptable, not to mention criminal.

Josephbleau said...

"knowing how to hise stuff" is the main goal of the State Dept. should she have been declared incompetent vs a vs the job requirements?

walter said...

Georgiana said...
Good God, could the Republican Party sink any lower? Politicizing the grief of Mrs.Smith
--
Hil and Obama did that long ago.

Josephbleau said...

"Knowing how to hide" correction.

Sprezzatura said...

"My biggest issue is avoidance of FOIA. Completely unacceptable, not to mention criminal."

If this is an issue you follow I'm sure you see the irony. FOIA fans always say the gov uses the claim of classification to hide info that should be available to the public. And, in this situation the FBI says that HRC sent three emails that had subsections that had the letter "C" next to them (for the lowest level of classification). But, the State Dept says that two of these shouldn't have been identified as "C".

So, FOIA advocates can use the HRC email situation to prove that the gov is inappropriately using classification to hide non-secret information. OTOH, from the R POV, this does shine a light on the very minimal amount (one time) of actually classified (at the lowest level) info that HRC sent w/ her private email.

exiledonmainstreet, green-eyed devil said...

"So, I guess her speech writers, who plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech did a good job, in your opinion."

Can you prove that? Or is that something you just heard someone on MSNBC or NPR say?

"In this context, my big gripe is with those who claim to be Republicans, but who have spent years bashing Republican leadership for being "open borders" and for "amnesty."

Horseshit. The Tea Party was always primarily about smaller government and less government spending. I never formally joined them, but I went to a few early rallies out of curiosity and that is what the speakers talked about - not borders or amnesty or social issues for that matter. And they were dubbed teabaggers by the left early on because of that.

Your use of a leftist slur that didn't have one damn thing to do with amnesty or borders betrays you. Don't double down on your lie. You've revealed just how "Republican" and "conservative" you are. The writers at NRO don't like Trump, but would never use the term "teabaggers."

Sprezzatura said...

""So, I guess her speech writers, who plagiarized Michelle Obama's speech did a good job, in your opinion."

Can you prove that?"

The accent was different. I guess you can stick w/ that.

The Cracker Emcee Refulgent said...

So anyone who wants the law to be upheld is now a member of the "Natavist Right". You have completely outed yourself as a Moby. It was a good try. Certainly better than Julio's or Georgiana's.

Josephbleau said...

"PBandJ_LeDouanier said,..." Did your statement address the fact that there was/were a number greater than one of e-mails that HRC treated with non-compliance with legal requirements? She is the smartest person in the Democrat world. So, was she lying to us or was she just stupid? BTW I love Montreal and love life at the Cabane de Sucre my pals have, so I hope you are not a Qubecer.

Birches said...

I read the "plagiarized" paragraphs. Pretty standard political biography stuff. I find it a big stretch. If that's plagiarism, every political speech that discusses American values is plagiarized.

Sprezzatura said...

"BTW I love Montreal and love life at the Cabane de Sucre my pals have, so I hope you are not a Quebecer."

I've only been to Montreal for the F1 race. And, between the two French speaking F1 races I've been to, I like Monaco better. (Though that area is suffering now.)

Original Mike said...

"If this is an issue you follow I'm sure you see the irony."

What I see is a Presidential candidate who has betrayed our trust.

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