"I've heard there are quite a few people in America looking to move to Ireland and to other countries if Donald Trump becomes president," Inishturk Development Officer Mary Heanue told IrishCentral. "I'd like them to know that we would love to see them consider moving over here."Okay. I looked at it on Google maps. Saw this:
And I just want to say: Nice lambscape. Nice wall.
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Once again reporters self identify as math illiterate. So the rates "surged" by 14 percent.
No base number that I identified in my (admittedly) brief look at the article.
Here is a clue ya Irish wanker..... if there were 7 last year and 8 this year, the numbers "surged" by 14 percent.
As it stands this piece is fluff and nonsense. Except of course for providing the list of people I would welcome leaving the United States.
Wait, what? These folks can't just "show up" over there and start getting involved in stuff? Just get driver's licenses, mortagages, and loans, and credit cards? They just can't start voting and all? They need [like] permission to go over there? That just does not sound right. I thought only America was so backward as to (for at least a little while longer) denote the difference between someone that was legally allowed to be in the country and someone that was not...
Last I checked Ireland allowed you to enter with a US passport.
These people are more of a liability to the US than those Trump supporters PPP polled.
Tump has shown to be excellent at separating the wheat from the chaff.
There's 4.6+ million people in the Republic of Ireland. Around 33.3 million of Irish descent in America. And the Catholics/Protestants have kinda/sorta kissed and made up over there. Much like the Rep party is trying to do over here.
My mom was Irish and had around 80 first cousins just on her mother's side of the family. I digress.
Erin Go Bragh !!!
They're reorganizing for a final barbecue.
JAORE wrote: Here is a clue ya Irish wanker..... if there were 7 last year and 8 this year, the numbers "surged" by 14 percent.
All it took was one Paul Ryan.
rehajm said...
Last I checked Ireland allowed you to enter with a US passport.
5/10/16, 2:31 PM
Sure for a visit. Don't you need at least a work visa to get a job over there? Don't you need to be more than a U.S. citizen to vote over there? These folks are "fleeing" America. I say good bye and don't let the door hit you on the way out. I just don't think you just show up and expect all rights and privileges of citizenship, or am I mistaken?
Good riddance!
I'd prefer to hang out with these people.
It's interesting to see that the number of background checks has doubled since 2008, but I can't seem to put my finger on the reason why??
Sure for a visit. Don't you need at least a work visa to get a job over there? Don't you need to be more than a U.S. citizen to vote over there? These folks are "fleeing" America.
These people aren't trying to 'flee' America by renouncing their US citizenship, which is a long complicated and expensive process that likely wouldn't be over until after a Trump presidency, they're preforming in a show. Nor are they likely the type interested in 'work'. They can however stay 3 months on, 3 months off.
Also, Ireland does have a formal refugee and asylum seeker program.
The anti-Trump stuff has no staying power. I can already sense the lack of energy in it. The media is stirring and swirling, making up absurd headlines, but its not working. Hillary is so frumpy, no one cares if she doesn't get elected.
I have dual citizenship since I have Irish parents. They came here legally and became citizens of this country. I love visiting there and its always in the back of my mind to live there, but it seems like going backwards to me. And I'm one of those ignorant Trump supporters, I love seeing all of these people panic.
And when radical Islam takes over Ireland, the re-entry fee will be $1,000,000. Will have to go to Mexico and try and climb over The Wall. Romantic Ireland is dead and gone.
Liberals are sheeple so it seems perfect. They may not like the wall though.
Looks cold and damp. I'd rather go to Portugal.
Silly shepherds. Don't they know that if they build a 10 foot wall, the sheep will just bring a 12 foot ladder?
"Hillary is so frumpy, no one cares if she doesn't get elected."
The Machine cares.
Good! We WANT these sorts to leave. Maybe Chuck and Simon will join in.
They should emigrate to Saudi Arabia or other ME country to show their solidarity to Muslims and protest Trump for maximum effect. They are cowards if they go to another lily white Anglo Saxon country.
Lexington Kentucky is criss-crossed with these, made from local stone by Irish and African-American labor.
Not walls. We call them Stone Fences.
"They are cowards if they go to another lily white Anglo Saxon country"
What do you mean another lily white Anglo Saxon country?
Be awesome if Trump waited to all those fucks moved over and then bought the place up and made Trump International Inishturk Golf Club.
@diamondhead, call it Freudian slip. These are the same people who talk multiculturalism but don't want to walk the talk.
I think they should move now and not wait till the election...
They'll regret it.
The Irish.
These folks can't just "show up" over there and start getting involved in stuff? Just get driver's licenses, mortagages, and loans, and credit cards? They just can't start voting and all? They need [like] permission to go over there? That just does not sound right.
The last place on earth that let people do that was Shanghai circa 1937 because there was an International Settlement.
The majority of prohibitions date from about 1885 to the World War I.
Ireland is also extremely anti-Zionist and pro-Palestinian, so extreme Left Democrats will have that benefit as well. Such a deal!
I'm going to Italy. Better weather, great wine.
It will look like a paradise of economic and political stability after Trump gets done with the country.
Pm317 said...
"They are cowards if they go to another lily white Anglo Saxon country."
Another anglo saxon country protected by the US Armed forces no less.
And there should be a period after cowards.
pm317: They are cowards if they go to another lily white Anglo Saxon country.
Anglo-Saxon? Well, whatever, I know what you meant.
That's what's so funny. They think they're going to a lily-white country. (Assuming here that they're serious about going at all, which they're not.) But the Irish PTBs and lefties are at least as crazy as the PTBs and lefties in the rest of the West, and have been doing their damndest to accomplish in a few decades what the English couldn't manage in 400 years - wipe out Ireland and the Irish as a unique people and culture.
Emigration of the native Irish is in high gear again, while at the same time the government is aggressively peddling the same-old same-old diversity and multi-kult bullshit, to accompany a mass inflow of Third Worlders. Be amusing to see these twits wash up in Dublin or Cork and immediately "white flight" themselves to points further west that were still majority Irish.
Laver10 said...
"I'm going to Italy. Better weather, great wine.
It will look like a paradise of economic and political stability after Trump gets done with the country."
No you wont. You are a coward among other things. You people never follow through on these things.
God I wish you would.
"It will look like a paradise of economic and political stability after Trump gets done with the country"
New hysterical Clintonite! Welcome! We only have about two so there's gobs of room for more!
rehajm:
These people aren't trying to 'flee' America by renouncing their US citizenship, which is a long complicated and expensive process that likely wouldn't be over until after a Trump presidency, they're preforming in a show. Nor are they likely the type interested in 'work'. They can however stay 3 months on, 3 months off.
On most of these visa waiver programs, you don't have to return to the US for 3 months in between -- you can just stick around until your 90 days is up, pop over to another country, and then return.
The problem that arises is work -- one generally can't be hired locally without a work visa or some kind of residence permit. If one can work remotely for a US employer, that might not be a problem (although I don't know the status under Irish law), but most US employers won't allow permanent telework like that.
Re: Achilles:
Another anglo saxon country protected by the US Armed forces no less.
Oh that's not the fault of the Irish. They were indifferent between the Allies and the Third Reich. They'd have been just as happy, I'm sure, to be guarded by the forces of National Socialism instead. We just happened to win.
Coward? Perhaps. I prefer to think of myself as sensible and sane.
Some may assume that people look to flee a Trump presidency. How about some may be thinking of fleeing a U S where the government is criminalizing thought, like "climate-deniers", or mandating that the states bend to Federal regulations passed by no elected official about bathrooms and gender. Or where a newly appointed SC Justice may help decide that the President can ignore statute, or revoke the 2nd Amendment. Where you can't say "no" to whom you do business with, and the government openly sneers and laughs about lying to the American public.
it may be that some are worried about a Clinton presidency and the aftereffects.
Laver10:
Do you have a house in Italy? If so, that sounds like a serious plan. If not, that sounds like castles in the air.
I'm going to stay with relatives. One owns a small winery. Can't wait.
I went. I saw. I understood why my ancestors left.
I was not thinking of moving, but now that I've seen the picture, I'm fleeting tempted. (Not because of an election.)
I really fail to understand the exaggerated sense of dread at Trump becoming president. Both he and Hillary will serve the wealthy elites. If anything, I expect Hillary to be worse. Either way, I expect the prevailing present-day policies will continue under either of them, and the dissolution of our republic will continue. In the end, neither of them can be any worse than Congress permits them to be.
How does everyone get past all of the loony tunes, offensive, bizarre things that The Donald says? I must admit, I find myself laughing as much as cringing. Unfortunately, I think it's going to put the Onion out of business. He's taken over their "time slot."
My grandfather was born in Ireland so (I've been told, never checked it) I could qualify for Irish citizenship. I was only in Ireland once, a quarter century ago, and I thought it was great. But if I was going to move because of a Pres. Tromp I'd also move because of a Pres. Hillary!, and in neither case will I do so. I'll remain in my country and do what I can to make sure that whichever of those a-holes is elected, he/she will be a one-term president.
I urge all reasonable Americans to do the same.
The country can survive four years of domestic policy chaos. What it may not survive is an international crisis brought on by an ignorant man with no professional advisors. Even if he had them, he wouldn't listen to them. Remind you of anyone?
"an ignorant man with no professional advisors."
Pres Obama.
Do you want four more years of it?
Re: Laver10:
I'm going to stay with relatives. One owns a small winery. Can't wait
That sounds like a feasible plan, then. I've thought the same about Seoul before (in fact, I've looked into buying an officetel in Seoul, but always rejected it as a frivolous expense, since I can always just stay with family, at least for the moment).
I went one step further. I was so depressed when Obama was reelected that I obtained dual citizenship. Now I don't have to worry about a Visa.
Maybe its the same guys who gave Chris Dodd a free cottage in the land of blarney.
Hey Balfegor,
What does your family in Korea think of The Donald?
B.Y.O.E. (Bring your own Ewe.)
Fans of the Irish-Welsh Clinton cunts.
To paraphrase a line from Arthur, "Usually, one must go to a middle school to meet a writer of your stature."
Those who leave the US after Trump is elected are those the US is better off without. After all, the rest of us patiently endured eight years of Obama. If these deserters can't face Trump, they are worse than cowards. They are pussies.
I beg to differ. I'm a sensible pussy.
The way to get past the crazy things Trump says is to find out what he actually said.
Realize the mainstream media mostly lies. Free yourself.
If you think the media doesn't lie, read the story about Ben Rhodes, Obama's chief adviser, in the recent Atlantic.
Free yourself. Don't be afraid of change. We're with you. We've done it, most of us. Go on. Think the unthinkable - the Democrats are out of date. Hillary is lying. The NYT lies. If you are in Ireland they will still be lying.
To quote William Safire from 1993, Hillary "is a congenital liar." Nothing's changed there in 23 years. Liar, check. Paranoid, check. Corrupt, check. Funny how all three of those apply to il Duce, too. Two peas in a pod.
I'm astounded by the reasonable comments recently from Cook and ARM. Perhaps I shouldn't be. I might have a blind spot when it comes to commenters I disagree with - I think they're insufferable and shouldn't speak about things they don't understand (i.e. I'm not spending much time seriously entertaining the prospect of changing my mind, unless you already agree with me on enough other notes). Not saying this is bad - just that I hadn't realized how sloppy a mental shortcut it might be.
Good riddance, shitheads. This kind of bitch-ass threatening to leave the country started with progressive democrats whining about George W Bush, now they are whining about Trump. Please, stop the chickenshit empty threats and depart for pinko paradise ASAP, and take Alec Baldwin, Lena Dunham, and every other America-hating democrat party bigot with you. Thanks....
If we stopped taxing people on income earned abroad I suspect a hell of a lot of people would be moving out of the country.
" Laver10 said...
I went one step further. I was so depressed when Obama was reelected that I obtained dual citizenship. Now I don't have to worry about a Visa.
5/10/16, 5:40 PM"
Sweet. I wouldn't mind having a place in Italy either. Now be honest, when you open a bank account and brokerage account in Italy will you list your American citizenship or conveniently ignore that in order to avoid FACTA? Tax evasion afteral is the national pastime in Italy.
My cousin with the winery jokes that he keeps four sets of books: one for himself, one for the "IRS", one for the regional tax authority, and one for his wife.
My husband and I are long-time legal residents of Ireland on account of my husband's job, and we are both American citizens (and hold no other citizenship). Our daughter was born last year in Ireland and is an Irish citizen. So far we haven't made the trip to Dublin to get her American passport, which she is also entitled to because her parents are US citizens. (We were able to get her Irish passport by post, but we would have to present her in person at the US Embassy to get her American passport. We live 3 hours from Dublin and jobs/life have intervened to prevent this from happening so far. Although eligible, she is not technically an American citizen until we make a claim for citizenship/SSN/passport.)
But now that Trump is the nominee, what do we do? Do we get her an American passport ASAP so that she has it in case Trump is elected and makes the citizenship process for her more onerous/impossible than it currently is? Or do we hold off so that in the non-zero event that Trump becomes president and does something totally crazy, she's not stigmatized by her American citizenship? Trump is so volatile that we can envisage all sorts of scenarios in which holding (or not holding) a US passport would be detrimental to someone living abroad. It is a question I never thought we'd have to ponder, and yet here we are.
[we have been scared into thinking by a one sided press that] Trump is so volatile that we can envisage all sorts of scenarios i
Fixed it for you.
Jamie Bee @4:25 AM:
As tim correctly implies, you're silly and easily gulled by nonsense, but let me help, anyway. Just get both passports for your daughter. She can use the U.S. passport to avail herself of the advantages of American citizenship, should she so desire, and she can use or make a display of her Irish passport to avoid being stigmatized by (or, more likely, virtue-signal to) the sort of silly people who likely compose your, and perhaps eventually her, social and professional circles.
But you knew that. You're just play-acting at having this "dilemma" to status-signal. Take it to facebook, lady. You'll get more bang for your buck signaling to the other airheads over there.
I see a wasteland. Green, barely, but still a wasteland.
Ireland was covered with forests before humans showed up.
Up above, I said, regarding Hillary and her twin Donald Trump:
"In the end, neither of them can be any worse than Congress permits them to be."
I want to clarify that I am not confident Congress will serve as a check on whoever of these two becomes President; rather, I make the point that Congress is who the American people should be concerned with, as they ultimately are responsible for any outrages the President may commit in office. For example, Obama and Bush are mass murderers; Congress is inextricably complicit in these mass murders, as they allow the mass murders to be committed, and they continue to allow funds to be provided for the mass murder programs.
Congress may very well allow Hillary or Donald to be as ghastly as can be imagined...but those who think Hillary will be less bad than Trump, or Trump significantly worse than Hillary, are deluded.
Deluded? Works for me.
@tim in vermont - I think that a reasonable person could conclude, solely from the words Trump himself has uttered, that his presidency would be a volatile one. He's certainly shown himself to be strongly nationalist in a way that could be construed as threatening to those of us residing outside the US.
@anglelyne - Mingled with your nasty, wildly off-base assumptions (which I will ignore) is some useful advice, so thank you for that. At the end of the day, though, I think we will most likely let our daughter make up her own mind if she wants the US citizenship (she has until 18 to claim it easily under the current rules). We'd love her to be American - and she'll always be one in spirit/heritage - but the tax implications of holding a US passport are so onerous if you don't live in the US that we'd rather not saddle her with them without her consent, or at least until we all know a little better what her life will look like.
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