Wow. The restoration of youth to the face, the unfathomable color, the earthquake terminology — "TRUMP SHAKES WORLD ORDER."
The link goes to a tame Reuters item: "Foreign diplomats voicing alarm to U.S. officials about Trump." ("On Tuesday, General Philip Breedlove, the United States' top military commander in Europe, said... 'I get a lot of questions from our European counterparts on our election process this time in general... And I think they see a very different sort of public discussion than they have in the past.'")
The phrase "World Order" does not appear in the Reuters article. It sounds foreboding. I see that Henry Kissenger published a book 2 years ago with the title "World Order." From the NYT review:
There has always been a dark, almost Spenglerian cast to Mr. Kissinger’s thinking, and he sees ominous signs today of a descent back into a Hobbesian state of nature — in the bedlam overtaking Syria and Iraq, where “no common rules other than the law of superior force” seem to hold; in the spread of weapons of mass destruction and “the persistence of genocidal practices”; and in the Wild West of cyberspace, which has “revolutionized vulnerabilities.” In fact, he says, we are “insistently, at times almost desperately, in pursuit of a concept of world order,” at this moment in history when “chaos threatens side by side with unprecedented interdependence.”
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 274 of 274"Building a wall up and down the Mexican border won't stop any of that."
The wall helps keep out the unknowns. The visa over stays have ID and could be tracked if anybody wanted to.
BrianE,
After Scalia died, Trump mentioned Diane Sykes as a good Supreme Court pick. She has balls unlike John Roberts.
Yes, so the EU bureaucracy says as Muslims riot around them.
That's not the point. The point is the cluelessness of Drudge's byline.
It's not clueless.
Some of what Trump is proposing is a reversal or a limit on US international trade policy that has existed since Bretton Woods. This isn't going to be the first such limit or pause initiated by the US.
That is scary to some and good news for others. US default attitudes towards trade policy aren't universal. Most countries are far more selfish with respect to trade barriers.
Trump will not be getting one of those pre-emptive Nobel prizes from the wizened international community.
@SC: "But the nightmarish part is the forced relocations that Trump is talking about. It's 100 times bigger than rounding up all the Japanese-Americans and putting them in internment camps." Is he still talking about it? Or was it just part of the con--bringing up deportation to signal toughness, only to drop the force-out prior to touch-back amnesty? By emphasizing "fairness" to "wonderful productive" people, the "good ones," Trump is already moving into Gang of 8 territory, with easier special-skills visa provisions thrown in. It's smart politics: the Rubio-lite approach will serve Trump well in the general, because he can pivot to the center, and the marks that sustained the con in the primaries will have no place to go. So far, he has stuck to the wall--that keeps the Trumpkins in line and will keep moderates away. It'll be interesting to see if and how he drops it.
I played with a guy one time who had a swing where his right elbow looked like it was on Mr Toad's Wild Ride, and it followed the exact same path every time as if it were on a rail. But he outhit me by 20 yards every time anyway.
Some of what Trump is proposing is a reversal or a limit on US international trade policy that has existed since Bretton Woods.
That's not what they care about. They care that he's a buffoonish strategic xenophobe who reverses what he says every other day and talks about ("guarantees") the size of his pee-pee in nationally televised debates.
"But the nightmarish part is the forced relocations that Trump is talking about. It's 100 times bigger than rounding up all the Japanese-Americans and putting them in internment camps."
You're just a goldmine of Left-wing bullshit. Eisenhower deported a couple million Mexicans in the 1950s and no one said boo. That's 20x the Japanese internment camps.
R&B's: " They care that he's a buffoonish strategic xenophobe who reverses what he says every other day and talks about ("guarantees") the size of his pee-pee in nationally televised debates."
There is a danger that Trump, if elected, might go about setting red lines one day and the next claim he did no such thing. Worse, he might actually claim it was everyone else who set the red line and not himself.
That just might be a problem.
You're just a goldmine of Left-wing bullshit.
Not me, I'm pro-life. Can't say the same about you, of course.
Nevertrump added 3000 since yesterday.
My experience is that anytime anybody labels an opponent with "*phobe" he/she are just slinging monkey shit to see what sticks.
tim in vermont: "My experience is that anytime anybody labels an opponent with "*phobe" he/she are just slinging monkey shit to see what sticks"
I can't believe you turned out to be such a phobe-a-phobe.
Even worse are the Phoebe-a-phobes.
There is simply no excuse for that.
"That's not what they care about."
No, there are serious people who care about other things.
Some of them (61%) care about immigration. and that is ALL immigration, by the way.
Some care about other things.
it doesn’t appear to me that conservatives calling on people to reject Trump have any idea what it actually means to be a “conservative.” The word seems to have become a brand that some people attach to a set of partisan policy preferences, rather than the set of underlying principles about government and society it once was.
It's not just blue collar people.
Saint Croix wrote: But the nightmarish part is the forced relocations that Trump is talking about. It's 100 times bigger than rounding up all the Japanese-Americans and putting them in internment camps.
Don't leave out the ovens he wants to build for Jews in Idaho and the rows and rows of fence posts he plans to punish gays in Wyoming.
He promised today to protect the Idaho potato market. Are they under attack?
Chuck wrote...With respect to Donald Trump, I am trying to be an annoying, harassing insufferable prick. I would like nothing better than to smear him and hurt him. You thought that I was "oozing" hatred toward Trump. That disappoints me. Mere "oozing"? I want my Trump-hatred to be slathered on, like jelly on a peanut butter sandwich. I hate the idiotic and odious Trump so much, I even hate his supporters.
You live in Michigan, correct? May I suggest that you take the day off tomorrow from your busy day of depositions and go to your polling place. Hang around outside and look for Trump voters and try your level best to dissuade their vote. If someone admits to voting Trump, get their name and address for the list that you mentioned you are compiling.
Why does Althouse have a photo of Owen Wilson for this post?
I am Laslo.
Listening to Michael Savage try to get a straight answer from him on H1b..gives up.
@Saint Croix, whatever you do, don't go to Drudge..
tim maguire said...Europe is worried about Donald Trump? Is this the same Europe that celebrated the election of Barack Obama in 2008? Maybe I'll have to give Trump a chance after all. No...more likely a broken clock thing.
Tim nailed it in the third comment. Europeans absolutely love the image of America that Barack Obama projects. The only person they like better is Bill Clinton. They love what Clinton did for Europe in Bosnia; they love Clinton's "enlightened" and more European views on sex and marriage; they especially love his perfectly charming wife and what she tried to do for Europe in Libya.
Actually..Trump claimed the question was muddled. I guess he didn't have an earpiece this time. But whatevs..he pivoted to need to create jobs first..well..that's what H1b issue is about. ......
I mean..he claimed the question at the debate was unclear.
Senator Ben Sasse reads mean tweets.
I love this guy. Refuses to vote for Donald Trump, and will vote third party if necessary. You rock, sir.
His open letter is here. Read the whole thing.
Trump attacks Amazon, Apple, Facebook.
"the anti-tech guy"
"Shut down the internet"
this is insanity
@Saint Croix: I look forward to your spirited defense of Marco Rubio's stance on Disney's worker replacement program. Rubio hasn't even flip-flopped on this -- he's dead set on it in general. It enormously benefits his donor class.
This should resonate well in Michigan.
this is insanity
No, Mark Zuckerberg's plan is insanity.
The Dems squeeze the middle class from the bottom; The GOPe squeezes the middle class from the top. This is a unique set of pressures leading to this year's unique set of circumstances.
Chick, why would you vote for this guy?
What does he have in common with Scott Walker?
I see nothing similar between the two men.
I can only tell you what's in my heart and mind, Saint Croix. Mock at your leisure.
And what do you mean, the Republican party is squeezing the middle class from the top. What the hell are you talking about?
I'm not mocking you. I just don't get it.
What does he have in common with Scott Walker?
Scott Walker is an open borders guy?
Saint Croix said...And what do you mean, the Republican party is squeezing the middle class from the top. What the hell are you talking about?
Massive expansion of H-1B visas for STEM workers.
Have you ever lifted a finger in STEM education, your holiness?
TRUMP SHAKES WORLD ORDER
The yellow represents Trump's golden ejaculate (shakes, as in The World is ordering Trump's 'milkshake' he is 'bringing to the yard'*) as The Brand is literally coming into all of our homes, and, in some cases even, documented at that, dreams.
*Here here.
Ben Sasse says he'll leave the Republican Party if Trump is the nominee. He doesn't understand that Trump is destroying the Republican Party. He should leave now. Better yet, resign from the Senate. Get a job like everyone else.
We need H1-Bs to replace our elected representatives. We can get a young woman from India to spout nonsense with a smile like Paul Ryan for $22,000 a year.
@CL: "Massive expansion of H-1B visas for STEM workers." You mean, the kind Trump favors?
As he said a few days ago: "I'm changing. I'm changing. We need highly skilled people in this country . . . And if we can't do it, we'll get them in. And one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges ... as soon as they're finished, they get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately. They're not able to stay here. For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brainpower in this country."
The H1b system is being badly abused.
Cases like Disney and So Cal Edison are multiplying.
This is a genuine scandal.
Buwaya,
Agreed. But the GOP knows what's going on. They don't care. The companies hire their family members as lobbyists or consultants to get through this shifty practice just like the lobbyists pushed for NAFTA and all those other great trade agreements that made the elites even more wealthy while sucking the jobs out of this country.
Like our idiotic trade policies and open border policy, this H1-B (and H2B and issuing 500,000 student visas a year, etc) is bipartisan bullshit.
Am I supposed to be upset that the U.S. of A. causes brain drain from the R.O.W. these days?
When the ever-loving-fuck did that happen?
Sorry, but I actually prefer guys like buwaya puti be here, in the United States, than elsewhere.
How could anybody want otherwise?
H1b helps to suppress wages in the US.
One of several things keeping down median income over the last ten years. This is not good. The argument was this would create productivity growth and knock on effects improving median income. This hasn't happened.
I am here indeed, but my being here has several effects, some good I hope, some not so good. Honesty requires me to acknowledge this. Back in the 80s - 90s - early 2000s it was hard if not impossible to discern the negatives, given collinear data of a general economic expansion and tight labor markets in technical areas. Over the last decade though it is not at all clear that the US has a tight labor market in any field.
And my argument is that expansive government regulations are much more likely the cause of this phenomenon that the politically easier-to-blame outsiders: foreigners.
Growth would return if we turn away from the Keynesian policy prescriptions that caused Japan to lose a 27 year decade.
Why we would believe the average bureaucrat could grow an economy is beyond rational thinking.
@Sebastion: I know that the Donald flipped and flopped and then flipped again on the issue. Obviously he heard the reaction form others. But Marco Rubio is the only one who unabashedly supports the massive expansion. I wouldn't be surprised if he [Rubio] scoffed at the Disney scandal because Disney was/is a major donor.
Birkel said...And my argument is that expansive government regulations are much more likely the cause of this phenomenon that the politically easier-to-blame outsiders: foreigners.
The influx was government policy. Coupled with the hand wringing that American students weren't good enough to compete.
There is no argument that government regulations are choking growth. The principal growth area in corporate IT is "compliance" after all.
Still, under prevailing conditions there are no labor shortages and H1b is abusive and contrary to the interests of the natives. Like when monetary policy is "pushing on a string" it does nothing to improve anything.
Assuming a better economic climate can be achieved there may again be a decent argument for H1b, but not today.
chickelit:
It is easier to type "I agree." for future reference.
buwaya puti:
Timing is a matter of great debate, best held for future discussions.
Otherwise, I do not disagree strongly.
I would argue both monetary and fiscal policy are "pushing a string" but that is a quibble.
@CL: I do not think there is a meaningful difference between Rubio and Trump on H1B visa expansion. I think Rubio is now tougher on avoiding amnesty than Trump. Rubio is also in favor of moving to a merit-based legal immigration system (H1B should be folded into it), which to my knowledge Trump has not even begun to think about. So as an opponent of illegal immigration and amnesty, and a proponent of a points-based legal system, and a skeptic on the Mexican wall, I give a slight edge to Rubio.
I agree that the current immigration system is being abused and that all parties are complicit. But H1B is not bad in principle. Capturing foreign talent graduating from U.S. universities, as Trump suggests, can be beneficial. The empirical literature on economic immigration effects, though often concentrated on the low end, does not seem to support the dire claims made in the political arena. (Of course, there are many other effects, which are my own concern.)
Althouse wrote: Wow. The restoration of youth to the face, the unfathomable color, the earthquake terminology
I assumed that the color was Trump's hair color. Either that or the color of mustard gas. :)
Here's our bi-partisan government regulation over the last 30 years: loosen trade restrictions on our end so that jobs get sent to countries with environmental and labor laws that are weak/non-existent, keep the border open to Mexico so that while we export our decent paying manufacturing jobs there they continue to export low-skilled labor up here to keep down wages of lower income jobs, increase the number of local, state, and federal government jobs to try and maintain a middle class, increase the number of jobs at college and universities and drive up their salaries by expanding student loans and increasing the number of student visas (while creating $1.2 trillion in student loan debt), create a housing bubble by loosening mortgage standards and allowing Wall Street to create exotic financial instruments to profit immensely while exponentially increasing the damage from that bubble (then bailing out Wall Street with almost $1 trillion of the taxpayer money), increasing the number of H1B (and H2B) visas so that wages of Americans can be driven down, and 5 wars in Muslim countries.
And we ran up almost $16 trillion in debt over those years. Now we have the lowest labor participation rate, the most Americans collecting disability, the most Americans on food stamps, a loss of median income (while health care costs and college futon have skyrocketed), and income inequality that is at the highest levels since the 1920s.
We also have a federal government whose day to day workers are not responsive or accountable to the public as the IRS targets citizens based on political affiliation and the VA, across more than 100 facilities spread throughout the country, manipulates its data to cover up the fact that it is turning away or not helping tens of thousands of ailing veterans. We created a whole new agency to ensure airport security whose workers failed over 80% of the time during random audits to successfully screen for weapons and explosives planted in baggage. Not one of these workers at the IRS, the VA, or the TSA has been fired for their corruption or rank incompetence.
Why the hell did we let this happen to our country? Are we that ignorant, selfish, and shortsighted?
That's a great summary, mccullough.
Why the hell did we let this happen to our country? Are we that ignorant, selfish, and shortsighted?
The seeds for its undoing are baked in. An ever-shrinking number of Americans benefited. The Rubio folks' argument is sure, but an ever-increasing number of immigrants benefited by escaping shitholes and doesn't that count for something? It's akin to the argument that we owed it to the Chinese to lift their billions out of poverty. Americans didn't realize it would cost them their own livelihoods.
CL,
Americans, for the most part, are compassionate but these policies have been idiotic and the benefits have accrued mostly to the top income brackets while the burdens have fallen mostly to the middle and bottom income brackets. But one thing is for sure, politicians and their family members have done very well. So I'm now inclined to think our leaders were at best indifferent to what the consequences would be.
You two save the world.
hey Chick, I'm sorry I upset you.
God bless.
"I think if Trump is the nominee, he'd better put out a list of SC nominees before the election."
Why bother? It's not like his word means anything. He can just switch and put Schumer's first choice in the minute he takes office.
Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary that has been successful beyond their imagination. I am voting for Cruz, and believe me, this is a compromise.
Why the hell did we let this happen to our country? Are we that ignorant, selfish, and shortsighted?
Yes. We are. We have become the country the left has always wanted.
Do they realize that Trump's candidacy is viewed abroad as one of the biggest and most dangerous farces to have ever come out of this country?
The views of people "abroad" have been responsible for some of the most heinous human rights violations in recorded history.
That's not what they care about. They care that he's a buffoonish strategic xenophobe who reverses what he says every other day and talks about ("guarantees") the size of his pee-pee in nationally televised debates.
Trump is a clown, no doubt.
But hearing that from people who think an invasion of Muslims with no demands of integration is a solid idea in spite of their citizens not being on board is not of much use.
Anybody bitching about our immigration policy proposals should compare our CURRENT policies to anybody else. Canada, for example, wouldn't tolerate what we do.
Trump attacks Amazon, Apple, Facebook.
I don't mind some attacks. Google should face anti-trust suits. But some of Donald's complaints are inherently silly.
And what do you mean, the Republican party is squeezing the middle class from the top. What the hell are you talking about?
The donors want more and more cheap labor for the wealthy which crowd out the job prospects for less-skilled American workers. The H1B visa thing is a massive issue that is utterly fucking over American workers solely to benefit large companies. Tell American construction workers that there isn't a problem when they have a hard time getting jobs when illegals are flooding that market.
As he said a few days ago: "I'm changing. I'm changing. We need highly skilled people in this country . . . And if we can't do it, we'll get them in. And one of the biggest problems we have is people go to the best colleges ... as soon as they're finished, they get shoved out. They want to stay in this country. They want to stay here desperately. They're not able to stay here. For that purpose, we absolutely have to be able to keep the brainpower in this country."
Which is why I'm a huge supporter of Cruz. Ted Cruz, any faults one may find in him, is the most consistent guy running.
"Trump is a stalking horse for Hillary that has been successful beyond their imagination. I am voting for Cruz, and believe me, this is a compromise."
There's no question Bill tried (successfully) to talk Trump into running, perhaps not expecting him to win the nomination but perhaps frustrate the eventual nominee or even decide to go third party to help Hillary win. While it's up for debate whether Trump initially thought he could win or just wanted attention (and didn't mind helping out his friends the Clintons in the process) it is clear that Trump has made a Clinton victory more likely than if he had stayed out of the race. The GOP might have had a spirited primary season, picked a front runner who by now would be working his message beyond normal GOP constituencies and gearing up for a general election against Hillary.
It is possible that due to Hillary's poor campaign skills (as well as new events like an indictment) Trump could actually beat her, which would be hilarious for what it means about Bill (recruiting the guy who beat her! Ha ha ha!). But odds are she will beat Trump, and maybe the Dems will take the Senate as well, leaving the GOP quite low after the high of the 2014 midterms.
But I don't blame Bill or even Trump for all this--it's the GOP voters who decided, fair and square, to go this route. Clearly they didn't tire of losing all those previous presidential elections. What's one more disaster?
"The H1B visa thing is a massive issue that is utterly fucking over American workers solely to benefit large companies. Tell American construction workers that there isn't a problem when they have a hard time getting jobs when illegals are flooding that market."
I know you're a Cruz guy, but this one is for the Trump supporters--did you favor Trump's initial stance on H1B (paring down the program) or his new stance (keeping it)? In which case was Trump wrong, and did his change make you more or less likely to stick with him?
Mitt Romney rides to the rescue of Rubio. He alone can save this rich oligarchy owned country from hostile take over by another Hitler/Mussolini/Trump. And if Mitt can't do it, then Clinton can. But first we must stop to eulogize Nancy Reagan. She was the horrid wife of the last Hitler/Mussolni/Reagan who performed a hostile takeover, but now we pretend we admired her.
damikesc: Ted Cruz, any faults one may find in him, is the most consistent guy running.
Unfortunately, on the visa issue, he is consistently very, very bad. (E.g., pushed for 500% increase. Thanks for looking out for American workers, Ted.)
Trump's debate response on the issue was extremely lame, though he did put out a "clarification" (i.e., "oh shit I fucked that up") immediately. His campaign probably got a blistering earful from enraged supporters:
"Megyn Kelly asked about highly-skilled immigration. The H-1B program is neither high-skilled nor immigration: these are temporary foreign workers, imported from abroad, for the explicit purpose of substituting for American workers at lower pay. I remain totally committed to eliminating rampant, widespread H-1B abuse and ending outrageous practices such as those that occurred at Disney in Florida when Americans were forced to train their foreign replacements. I will end forever the use of the H-1B as a cheap labor program, and institute an absolute requirement to hire American workers first for every visa and immigration program. No exceptions."
Not that this indicates any deeper understanding of the extent of the problems. (Abuse by universities is also a serious problem and not just a happy-clappy matter of getting all that awesome foreign talent). Very much on the plus side, though, his advisors on this issue (Sessions, Miller) are as good as it gets.
At any rate, most Americans aren't aware of what's going on here are easily gulled by the "don't look at how this program is being run in reality...it's just about keeping really smart people here" propaganda. Too bad.
But the nightmarish part is the forced relocations that Trump is talking about. It's 100 times bigger than rounding up all the Japanese-Americans and putting them in internment camps.
Mass deportations are fine with me.
Here illegally? Then why in the hell would I want you to stay or EVER return?
I get tired of people saying "we can't deport 11 million people" as if it is beyond our ability. That is absurd.
30,000 a day for a year? A junior majoring in supply chain management should have no problem.
Arguing a moral statement as a matter of "cannot" is arguing in bad faith. News readers need to be called on this sort of bull shit.
The same folks who say we can't deport 10,000,000 illegals are, somehow, convinced that we CAN take away 300,000,000 firearms.
Spengler? As in the Ghost Busters?
http://www.imdb.com/character/ch0000548/?ref_=tt_cl_t4
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