"And you got grandkids? How's that? It's great?"Ha ha. Brilliant. Now, I feel like I know what you're going to say. I'm going to stereotype you. (Please resist!) I think you're going to bring up his politics, characterize him as a liberal, and use his hilarious crusty-pants'd old-man statement as proof that liberals have terrible values. Sperm order fulfilled ≈ aborted embryo is only a clump of cells. That kind of thing.
"It's all right."
"Come on!!"
"No, no, I don't — you know — drop my pants at the joy of grandkids. They're just another [pause] sperm order fulfilled."
"NO!!!"
"Yeah!"
"You don't fill with love in your heart?"
"Eh... eh...."
"No?!"
"I try to give them a fair shake. Let's put it that way."
There, I hope my stereotype of you was sufficiently annoying that you'll say something more original and amusing.
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Admit it -- you love spunk.
You know that asshole that he played on Mary Tyler Moore?
He wasn't playing.
Could you imagine having that grumpy old asshole as a grandfather?
I bet he gives the grandkids socks for Christmas.
I'm the Mary.
From the comments at the link: ""I guess you could say I fucked up" - Marc didn't even catch this saucy joke by Asner regarding his relationship with Sontag. Brilliant."
Me thinketh he was expressing his grumpy, sarcastic/ironic side.
"I bet he gives the grandkids socks for Christmas."
Ungrateful little bastard sperm bank withdrawals.
Marc had a little trouble knowing how to talk to this very elderly man who was speaking in very funny deadpan understatements.
Um, calling Asner a liberal would actually be unfair to many (not all) liberals. Asner, like Danny Glover, is an out and proud, card carrying Communist. As such, yes, of course he's hewing to the party line about family.
Crustiness has been very, very good to Mr. Asner. The highlights of an astonishingly long IMDb bio are "You've got spunk, Mary: I hate spunk" and a Pixar movie (in which he wasn't really all that good.) But it's clear that any time a TV show needed some crustiness, Asner was first call.
Liberals have terrible, terrible values.
I love being a grandparent, but I have kids who take care of their own kids, and I just get to have fun with them on my terms. I have friends who raised their kids, and now they're raising their kids' kids. They're tired and would like some time to enjoy their "golden years". That enjoyment would no doubt include spending some quality time with the grands, but not all day everyday.
Love isn't a feeling.
If you don't take your kids to the dentist, people say that you don't love them.
"I try to give them a fair shake" glosses that.
Why is it that actors I enjoyed watching (Asner, Baldwin, Robbins) are absolute jerks?
Nothing political, mind you. ha
I am childless. One of my biggest joys in life however are interacting with my niece and nephew. My parents are much better grandparents than they were parents.
Thank you Meade for cranking Ann's high fastball so we don't have to.
The hummingbird feeder raider was likely a Hooded Oriole.
His grandchildren are likely adults, or close to it. Maybe his children were not especially good parents, and the grandchildren are not pleasant to be around. To this point, being a grandparent (with two infant granddaughters), has been nothing but a tremendous joy.
His kids know what s big deal he is (or was). The grandkids don't. Why would he waste his time on them?
No, Ann, I think you've pegged me, at least. Someone that negative has no choice but to be a Socialist/Communist/progressive.
A lot of the feeling a grandparent has for their grandkids comes from how they feel about their own children. The children of the children you despise will be despised, too, to a point. I suspect he doesn't have the best relationship with his own kids.
OK. something more original and amusing.
Asner is an asshole. No wonder he talks about dripping his pants. It's the only way we can see him.
Let's just say that I don't want to see Asner drop his pants.
And unlike Ms. Althouse I don't care to revel in his dead pan "understated" humor.
I know plenty of crotchety old geezers--and I'll be getting there myself. They come a dime a dozen, and while there is often unintended humor in what they might say, I don't talk with them for laughs.
I actually thought it played against type. If the Democrats are the Mommy Party, marketing with nurturant rhetoric, he was being the anti-Democrat.
I imagine the media would not have approved of Lincoln as presidential apart from him being an evil Republican.
Sheesh. Comment intended for Trump thread.
and now they're raising their kids' kids
My sister is nanny to her granddaughter and she loves it. So I guess YMMV. Of course, it's only one kid, and she had only boys, herself, so there's some newness to seeing a girl develop.
Not to speculate or stereotype, but it's not entirely uncommon for Hollywood types like Ed Asner to, you know, wreck their marriages, wreck their kids' lives, and, I guess if they get really grumpy, to dismiss their Grandkids. Just sayin'.
Grandchildren are the reward for good parenting your own children.
I suspect Asner knows he failed his children and gets no reward.
"...Sperm order fulfilled ≈ aborted embryo is only a clump of cells...."
What do you think made this "crusty-pants" old man's pants crusty?
Dance for me. Sing for me. Die for me.
The grand-offspring are coming over. Yeah, deposits are nonrefundable.
Honestly... read that in a slightly more suspicious tone, and it sounds like he's confessing to pedophilia.
It seems like, in general, grandmas just love having grandchildren. Grandpas love having grandchildren if the grandchildren are the sort of people they'd like to hang around with.
If Ed Asner loves his grandchildren, as I suspect he does, they will know full well that Grandpa is just trolling them in an interview, and will probably get a good laugh out of it.
Heh. I forgot to prove I'm not a robot, and it published me anyway! Take that, Google overlords! (They''re probably just using webcams now to spy and SEE we're not robots.
Maybe not the "sperm order fulfilled" part, but the "fair shake" part--kids love that kind of attitude in an adult.
When I was a small child, one of my grandpas liked to act like he hadn't noticed me on the couch and would sit on me and start reading the paper. I found this hysterically funny.
Another grandpa is something of a genius. Additionally, he has every episode of Three's Company recorded on VHS and cataloged in a spreadsheet. I stayed with him for a week once, and I cut out and filed coupons for him at his request. Then we went to five grocery stores to get the best deals. We did not do a lot of stereotypical kid activities, but I still had a great time.
One man told me that he did not enjoy visits from his grandchildren. He said they were destructive and annoying. Maybe they were. I don't know; I didn't meet them.
I'm going to try and manipulate you into saying something I want you to say.
Ugh.
If it weren't true, we wouldn't be saying it. But let's be honest about Ed Asner, he's a jerk who doesn't care about anyone but himself. Probably hates his kids as much as he hates his grandchildren.
There, I hope my stereotype of you was sufficiently annoying that you'll say something more original and amusing
What's original in this post & comments is not amusing &
What's amusing in this post & comments is not original.
And that's neither original nor amusing.
My first grandchild is now almost nine months old. He has brightened my life immeasurably. I pity someone who does not feel what I feel.
Both of my grandfathers died before my parents married, and I came along 11 years after the wedding. Not many grandfather memories for me. My last grandparent died 41+ years ago -- I was 13.
People with grandparents are lucky.
Old people, even old liberals, are allowed to be grumpy. Sometimes, it's funnier that way.
From Wikipedia: "Asner is a parent and a grandparent of a child with autism." A child?
I hope my stereotype of you was sufficiently annoying that you'll say something more original and amusing.
New tag suggestion: contempt for commenters. Backtagging would be difficult of course.
My daughter lived with my then 88 year old mother for about 18 months while she saved money for a house. Yes, a win-win situation. They became a regular Laverne and Shirley act.
My mother continues to lives vicariously through my daughter.
My daughter has a wicked imitation of my mother. Even my mother laughs!!
I don't feel like listening, but if it was with a chuckle in his voice, it was humor!
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