Althouse: 30-year-old boy kills dad over a $200 cut in his allowance...

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30-year-old boy kills dad over a $200 cut in his allowance...

... allegedly.

৮৬টি মন্তব্য:

Drago বলেছেন...: Lefties don't like it when someone starts cutting back on the gravy train.

If asked, the son would probably tell you that his father was "greedy" for not giving him (the son) more free money.; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৩৯ PM
James Pawlak বলেছেন...: BOY??????; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৩৯ PM
Rick Caird বলেছেন...: Well, where he is going, he won't need much money. Not to much to buy in prison.; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫০ PM
Birches বলেছেন...: He should have just said he was transgendered and good ol Papa still called him his son.

Get out of jail free card.; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫২ PM
chuck বলেছেন...: Handsome? Whatever...; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫২ PM
Michael K বলেছেন...: Another "white privilege" punished. How dare that father cut the reparations !; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৪ PM
PuertoRicoSpaceport.com বলেছেন...: How the Hell is a 30 year old still a "boy"?

I figure "boy" ends about 16 or 18 years old at the oldest.

And why is he getting an allowance at 30 years old?

Sheesh.

John Henry; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৫ PM
Michael K বলেছেন...: "Not to much to buy in prison."

Not necessarily true at Rikers.; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৬ PM
Gahrie বলেছেন...: There is no such thing as a 30 year old boy Goddamn it!; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৬ PM
SGT Ted বলেছেন...: Was he a "gentle giant"?; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৬ PM
Bob Boyd বলেছেন...: He shot the wrong Thomas Gilbert.; ৫/১/১৫, ৫:৫৭ PM
Gahrie বলেছেন...: The term "drone" was invented for this wastoid.; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:০০ PM
Diogenes of Sinope বলেছেন...: What an evil person.; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:০৩ PM
FullMoon বলেছেন...: And,in other similar news, Stagger Lee killed Billy over A brand new Stetson hat.; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:০৮ PM
garage mahal বলেছেন...: Affluenza defense?; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:১৮ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: I knew a family like this only the son did not finish college even though Dad was Ivy League. It's likely a trust fund situation. The kids are raised to expect that they will have a certain minimum income because dad has many many millions and has always made it perfectly clear that they are right to expect that. Then dad or the trustee takes it upon themselves to suddenly start micromanaging and exerting control via the funds at a belated age - usually due to some kind of drug problem or similar.

It's too late by then, the son is a man, in a less than stable phase, and acts to protect what he sees as his.

In this case...BOOM. In other cases, a flurry of lawsuits, counseling, and rehab follows.

Dad is often no prize either in the psychdrama dept. and had likely been causing the family trouble himself for years. (No one deserves to be shot, I'm just expanding on a likely scenario.); ৫/১/১৫, ৬:৩১ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: Typical liberal; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:৩২ PM
Bob বলেছেন...: "Boy" ends when your balls drop and your voice breaks.; ৫/১/১৫, ৬:৫২ PM
John henry বলেছেন...: So I fionally looked at the article. I don't find the word "boy" in it anywhere.

So, Ann, I guess that is your characterization of him.

Could you expand a bit?

John Henry; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:০৭ PM
Curious George বলেছেন...: "handsome" will not serve him well in the joint.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:১৬ PM
Larry J বলেছেন...: Some of you argue that he isn't a boy but as far as I'm concerned, he sure as hell isn't a man. Barring disability, you aren't a man until you can earn your own living and may your way in the world.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৩৯ PM
bleh বলেছেন...: This is why Obamacare requires insurance companies to cover children until the age of 26. To prevent tragedies like this. God willing, that coverage will be extended past 30.

Being an adult with responsibility for yourself is hard.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৫০ PM
Drago বলেছেন...: garage mahal: "Affluenza defense?"

It works for the Kennedy's.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৫১ PM
Meade বলেছেন...: "'Boy' ends when your balls drop and your voice breaks."

And your mother cuts the apron strings and father tells you to go out and earn your own allowance.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৫২ PM
RecChief বলেছেন...: "boy"? at 30 years old, you describe as a boy?

Don't answer, I'm going to have a nice long pull of bourbon and weep for what this country has become.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৫৬ PM
Meade বলেছেন...: Boy on strike.; ৫/১/১৫, ৭:৫৮ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: Was he photographed wearing a beanie with a propeller on top?

A big lollipop and a devilish grin?; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:০০ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: Actually, he's got nothing on Stanley, the adult baby; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:০৬ PM
traditionalguy বলেছেন...: Reality analysis:The son being well kept was probably the way that dad kept the wife around when riches were hers on the table if she chose to leave him.

The son went along and played the easiest role of a tacit blackmailer, but he hated the way rich dad was outsmarting him.; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:২৪ PM
Big Mike বলেছেন...: Thirty years is too old to have an allowance. Our sons were on their own the day left college (and that would have been true had they left without a degree). Consequently today they are men.; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:৪০ PM
Lewis Wetzel বলেছেন...: "The handsome Gilbert Jr. — a graduate of the Buckley School on the Upper East Side, Deerfield Academy in western Massachusetts and Princeton — was a fixture on Manhattan’s black-tie society circuit and was often photographed with a beautiful woman on his arm."
Sounds like he had Ginger Grant tastes and a Mary Ann allowance.; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:৫৬ PM
n.n বলেছেন...: More like a poster boy. The boy is the victim, right? I wonder how the narrative would be written, if the father had successfully defended himself. #SomeLivesMatter; ৫/১/১৫, ৮:৫৬ PM
Laslo Spatula বলেছেন...: The father raised precisely the kind of son that would shoot his own father over money.

Now that the father is dead, who are we to deny him his success?

I am Laslo. And I nailed this one.; ৫/১/১৫, ৯:০২ PM
Trashhauler বলেছেন...: A 30 year old with an allowance? Well, treat a man as a boy and you'll get a boy's immaturity. I hope he likes it in stir.; ৫/১/১৫, ৯:১৬ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: The son had been engaging in a bit of, ahem, oil drilling. Perhaps Dad was not a P.C. sort and slashed the allowance in anger.

Peter; ৫/১/১৫, ৯:১৬ PM
john বলেছেন...: Leslie Abramson is flying to his defense. The Menendez brothers are donating their sweaters for the upcoming trial.; ৫/১/১৫, ৯:১৮ PM
RazorSharpSundries বলেছেন...: If he'd of only read the odd P.G. Wodehouse novel or two, he would've realized that ultimately there would be a humorous and remunerative outcome to this silly cutting of the allowance.; ৫/১/১৫, ১০:০০ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: Okay okay. People see, disregard (with prejudice but when I type it it ain't no damn cliche type shit) Buckley.

He spoke too well too often.

Cumulus.hillsdale.edu

Mayby.

Cumulus.hillsdale.edu/Buckley; ৫/১/১৫, ১০:১৩ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: Of course "Please prove you're not a robot" exudes dreary sensibilities those with better options, in general (aka UnAlthouse) exult in.

Irony is all it takes to satisfy some.; ৫/১/১৫, ১০:১৭ PM
BarrySanders20 বলেছেন...: Rank speculation: Mama will be implicated in the murder.; ৫/১/১৫, ১০:৩৩ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: Of course "Please prove you're not a robot" exudes dreary sensibilities those with better options, in general (aka UnAlthouse) exult in.

Irony is all it takes to satisfy some.

You just witnessed that. You shall not ever again.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:১০ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: You been sold edited lines of bullshit.

Over and over and over.

What could a rational, good or bad, person conclude?

Not what Sean Hannity sells.

Or Hugh Hewitt.

Etc.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:২৩ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: God Bless John Boehoner because every promise made to get elected means shit.

Without this "bad guy" there would be only my religion to squeal about. God Bless John Boehor for protecting us all from those darned dirty rascally Democrats!

God bless him cause otherwise abortion.

Otherwise gay marriage.

Otherwise tax slavery.
Otherwise Harry might frown.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:২৯ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: I join the garage and Inga's in hoping for a Warren sweep in 2016. I was taught to find interest in what's interesting just as Mike Kennedy, Dr., kills babies and brags.

My larger numbers mean I win no matter the evil perpetrated.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:৩৮ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: To the extent I represent the great William F. Buckley is to the extent the shitheel abortionist that brags of their abortion kills like hunters providing food: decently.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:৪৫ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: "Oh everybody thinks 'science' and anything but decency; cause just cause cause we are all here. Duh silly all mankind assumed we would kill with glee and braggadocio those in womb, especially the bitches!"

Science told me that.
China tells me this.

Who the fuck are you?; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:৫০ PM
Left Bank of the Charles বলেছেন...: The police suggest the son staged the murder as a suicide, but when they went to the son's apartment, they found the box the gun came in.; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:৫১ PM
Guildofcannonballs বলেছেন...: John McCain suffered.

Mikey Kennedy, Dr., has suffered too.

Let's apologize for the freaks we vote with who dislike killing unborn babies.

Let's focus on the three sufferings water boarding. You carry water for evil killers abroad, why not acknowledge h2o for once, for real?; ৫/১/১৫, ১১:৫৩ PM
tim maguire বলেছেন...: The son, who just found out he was getting a $200 cut in his monthly allowance, asked his mother to go get him a sandwich so she’d be out of the family’s tony Beekman Place apartment just before he pulled the trigger...

There's so very much wrong with this family it's hard to believe they're real.; ৬/১/১৫, ৫:০৬ AM
rhhardin বলেছেন...: $200 doesn't buy as much as it used to.; ৬/১/১৫, ৫:২১ AM
Bob R বলেছেন...: "Boy" seems a pretty accurate characterization. "A graduate of the Buckley School on the Upper East Side, Deerfield Academy in western Massachusetts and Princeton." Probably not capable of earning a reasonable living - at least if "reasonable" includes $2400/month rent. (I think you'd need a house about twice as expensive as mine to have a PITI payment that big around here.); ৬/১/১৫, ৬:১৯ AM
Bob R বলেছেন...: More fun facts about our boy. From the paper of record.; ৬/১/১৫, ৬:২৩ AM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: Random thoughts.

1. Gun license in NYC, I think not.

2. love it when reporters talk about "gun clips"

3. Pop had a hedge fund with $10 million in assets?

4. $600 a month in spending money doesn't float many dates with Anna Rothschild

5 Anna Rothschild's judgement is in question on a number of fronts :); ৬/১/১৫, ৬:৫৯ AM
Larry J বলেছেন...: From the linked article:

Cops believe Gilbert Jr. tried to make the murder look like a suicide, placing his 40-caliber Glock semiautomatic on his father’s chest, with the victim’s left hand covering it, before fleeing, sources said.
Cops found the gun’s case — along with two clips and numerous loose rounds — in Gilbert Jr.’s apartment at 350 W. 18th St. after busting him there at about 11 p.m. Sunday, sources said.

He may have had the best private school and Ivy League education money can buy, but it seems the boy just wasn't too bright. I'm sure he had wonderful self-esteem, though.; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:০২ AM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: "Lefties don't like it when someone starts cutting back on the gravy train."

It's apparent, Drago, that you reflexively use the term "lefties" to mean "someone I don't like for whatever reason." I like the idea: I'm going to start calling all those I don't like "glorphs."

Others will have as difficult a time knowing what the fuck I'm going on about as they, no doubt, do with you, but...who cares? We're expressing ourselves!; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:০২ AM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: "Well, where he is going, he won't need much money. Not to much to buy in prison."

Actually, prisons are getting more expensive to live in all the time, with more and more purchasing decisions to make!; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:০৭ AM
JAORE বলেছেন...: Hmmm. Ten million in assets for a hedge fund? Based on the described lifestyles the family went through a lot of money every year. Either Pops had another source of income, he was spending more than he took in, he was screwing his clients HARD on fees or some combination.; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:০৯ AM
Clyde বলেছেন...: Cue up The Offspring's "Why Don't You Get A Job?"; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:১১ AM
Jaq বলেছেন...: Robert is back, no doubt from a difficult day of defending communism from slander and libel alike.; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:১৪ AM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: "Typical liberal"

And Madisonfella joins with Drago in using words empty of any concrete meaning (in context), simply to express himself in a way that feels good!

With my pending adoption of the term glorphs, this will make at least three of us; I'm sure there are many more out there...will you stand up and join us in our mission to flense words of all meaning in service to expressing our most infantile feelings through incoherent emission of sounds?!; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:১৬ AM
Jaq বলেছেন...: Ten million in assets for a hedge fund?

"Does not compute!" came to my mind too.; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:১৭ AM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: RC, you are a mn;laknt; ৬/১/১৫, ৭:৫১ AM
Christy বলেছেন...: Doesn't add up. What an I missing? Can you get a Manhattan apartment for $2400/month? That $600/month isn't enough to keep his tux clean.; ৬/১/১৫, ৮:৫৫ AM
Martha বলেছেন...: The father might have been experiencing a financial set back himself which led to cutting back his wastrel son's living allowance.

According to CNBC.com:

The father's latest venture, Wainscott Capital Partners, was founded in 2011 to focus on investing in the stocks of biotechnology and health-care companies.

Wainscott—which shares the name of the area in the Hamptons where Gilbert had owned a home—is small by industry standards. The firm managed about $10 million as of September, according to marketing materials for a hedge fund conference. A person familiar with the fund confirmed that assets were likely about the same today, far less than the $200 million that has been widely reported.; ৬/১/১৫, ৯:০১ AM
Peter বলেছেন...: Is it really a surprise that dependency breeds anger and, ultimately, hatred?; ৬/১/১৫, ৯:৩৩ AM
Drago বলেছেন...: Cookie, madisonfella was being sarcastic.

And hilarious conspiracy theorists like cookie (9-11 & October Surprise) have no standing to comment on others posting in ways that are devoid of meaning and simply to make the poster feel good.

Btw i couldn't help but note the full court leftist push in the last week to recategorize stalin, mao, castro, the kims et al as "noncommunist" by definition.; ৬/১/১৫, ৯:৪০ AM
furious_a বলেছেন...: Ripped from the Headlines!

The Post and Times articles read like every other trust-fund-killer episode of Law and Order.

The arson-in-the-Hamptons was a nice touch.; ৬/১/১৫, ১০:৫৫ AM
Jaq বলেছেন...: @Drago,

Yeah, they are "pseudo socialists," because true socialism has never been tried.

Of course the idea that ending democratic elections would lead to despotism never occurs to them.; ৬/১/১৫, ১১:০৬ AM
Char Char Binks, Esq. বলেছেন...: To those of you who didn't catch mixture of irony, pity, and contempt in Ann's description of the 30-year-old Ivy League grad as a "boy": Stop commenting, online or in person, or in any forum, or in any way ever. Immediately apply for SSI benefits, or have someone apply for you; you are special.; ৬/১/১৫, ১১:১১ AM
dreams বলেছেন...: এই মন্তব্যটি লেখক দ্বারা সরানো হয়েছে।; ৬/১/১৫, ১২:২০ PM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: "Btw i couldn't help but note the full court leftist push in the last week to recategorize stalin, mao, castro, the kims et al as "noncommunist" by definition."

I haven't seen that; where may I find it?; ৬/১/১৫, ১২:২৪ PM
Drago বলেছেন...: cookie: "I haven't seen that; where may I find it?"

https://hotair.com/archives/2015/01/05/bbc-documentary-north-korea-isnt-really-communist-its-far-right/

I tried to find a more "liberal" news take on this novel new assertion but, naturally, the BBC's claims are not really being vetted by those more "liberal" news organizations.

Go figure.

You can go right to the BBC doc online if you like.

BTW, the comments are hilariously in line with the take that hard commies are now, "presto chango" = "right wing"!

Sending or attempting to send actual history down the memory hole is something at which leftists have become quite adept.; ৬/১/১৫, ১২:৩১ PM
Brando বলেছেন...: Mistake #1 is giving your 30 year old elite college graduate son an "allowance". That's not necessarily going to turn him into a murderer, but it at least will make him into an arsonist.

As a non-parent, my biggest fear about having kids is raising someone who despite my best efforts grows into a spectacular asshole. Just knowing there's a spectacular asshole out there that I'm responsible for bringing into the world would be harrowing.; ৬/১/১৫, ১২:৫০ PM
Rusty বলেছেন...: Robert Cook said...
"Typical liberal"

And Madisonfella joins with Drago in using words empty of any concrete meaning (in context), simply to express himself in a way that feels good!

With my pending adoption of the term glorphs, this will make at least three of us; I'm sure there are many more out there...will you stand up and join us in our mission to flense words of all meaning in service to expressing our most infantile feelings through incoherent emission of sounds?!

Funny on so many levels. Not the least of which is WGAS.; ৬/১/১৫, ১:২৯ PM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: Rusty,

I see you're going full bore with your use of nonsense terms; Bravo, my man!; ৬/১/১৫, ১:৫৩ PM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: I would hardly say the argument put forth by one BBC documentary on North Korea constitutes a "full court leftist push...to recategorize stalin, mao, castro, the kims et al as 'noncommunist' by definition."

That said, all dictatorships, left or right, will tend toward similar cults of personality, with a single revered leader at the top, and little or nothing to do with actual political or ideological underpinnings or orthodoxy and more to do with the leader and his underlings, in the name of the state, aggrandizing their own power and privilege at the expense of the rabble.; ৬/১/১৫, ২:১০ PM
Drago বলেছেন...: Robert Cook: "That said, all dictatorships, left or right, will tend toward similar cults of personality, with a single revered leader at the top, and little or nothing to do with actual political or ideological underpinnings or orthodoxy and more to do with the leader and his underlings...."

Shorter cook: We haven't really tried communism yet.

Totally not predictable or anything.; ৬/১/১৫, ২:১৫ PM
Gahrie বলেছেন...: To those of you who didn't catch mixture of irony, pity, and contempt in Ann's description of the 30-year-old Ivy League grad as a "boy

Hey give us a break...Althouse has been known to refer to all men in a similar manner. (at least heterosexual men); ৬/১/১৫, ২:১৬ PM
Drago বলেছেন...: Another for cookie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ii4AThJVMdA

Bill Maher considers Lenin and Stalin right wingers.

Of course he does. No leftist can bear to bear the burden of what their policy preferences must, inevitably, lead to.; ৬/১/১৫, ২:২১ PM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: Drago,

No, more like what I said: right wing and left wing dictatorships are all pretty much of a kind: it's about the power seeker at the top, and any politics is subordinate to the leader's prerogatives.; ৬/১/১৫, ৬:১৪ PM
নামহীন বলেছেন...: Robert Cook,

If anyone should know about nonsense terms, it's a still-breathing socialist coming up with power theories.; ৬/১/১৫, ৮:১৭ PM
Lewis Wetzel বলেছেন...: Robert Cook wrote "No, more like what I said: right wing and left wing dictatorships are all pretty much of a kind: it's about the power seeker at the top, and any politics is subordinate to the leader's prerogatives."
Dictator have been around since ancient Rome. The 20th century problem is totalitarianism, not dictatorships. Totalitarianism requires and ideology. Even the North Koreans have an ideology. There dictatorship would collapse without it.; ৬/১/১৫, ৯:২৬ PM
Rusty বলেছেন...: Blogger Robert Cook said...
Rusty,

I see you're going full bore with your use of nonsense terms; Bravo, my man!

Let your imagination be your guide. Look where it's gotten you so far.; ৭/১/১৫, ৬:১৩ AM
Robert Cook বলেছেন...: "Dictator have been around since ancient Rome. The 20th century problem is totalitarianism, not dictatorships. Totalitarianism requires and ideology. Even the North Koreans have an ideology. There dictatorship would collapse without it."

Totalitarianism is simply dictatorship plus technology; no ideology is really necessary, although it may sometimes exist or be purported, and may even be adhered to in some cases.; ৭/১/১৫, ৭:১২ AM
Drago বলেছেন...: cookie: "Totalitarianism is simply dictatorship plus technology; no ideology is really necessary, although it may sometimes exist or be purported, and may even be adhered to in some cases"

No True Scotsman over and over and over.

If that helps you get over the mass graves built on the ideology you clearly hold dear, then go for it.; ৭/১/১৫, ১২:০৯ PM
Rusty বলেছেন...: It's an intellectual caricature, Drago. The mistake is to take it seriously.; ৭/১/১৫, ১:৫০ PM