Death seems like more than they hoped for, I think finding someone they could trump up a charge on was more than they expected.
Actually, I think they had that video "in the pocket" for just such an emergency. The crew running the show don't seem very good at thinking on their feet, but they are good at opposition research.
One thing they didn't want to see during the election cycle was an organized terrorist attack on American interests. So I actually think being able to bag and tag Nakoula was their insurance.
In your experience, is re-incarceration normal for Nakoula's parole violation
I was speaking only thinking of the making of the video.
He apparently got a fake driver's license and that, without a doubt, would land you in jail whether on parole for federal or state supervised releases.
I regret the error.
Wow, democrats went after their own for getting a fake drivers license? Hmmm, guess they are really clamping down on their voter ID fraud now huh?
I'm not one of those partisans who wants to seize on this to drive Obama out of office. That would be a disaster, because he's black. It would lead to decades of political revenge.
Me neither. They could have avoided this entire fiasco by saying "We fucked up. We should've got more support to them, but we realized we didn't have enough time — or thought we didn't have enough time. We are sorry for their loss in defending our own ... "
They could have avoided this entire fiasco by saying "We fucked up. We should've got more support to them, but we realized we didn't have enough time — or thought we didn't have enough time. We are sorry for their loss in defending our own ... "
I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
You do understand how utterly laughable this is right? To make a statement like this right? That you have no opinion on a UN Ambassador that went out and regurgitated and lied five separate times over American and International airwaves to proclaim that the attack on the annex in Benghazi that led to the deaths and wounding of Americans and the deaths of four of them, was due to a spontaneous protest to a video no one had ever seen or knew about?
I'm not exactly sure how in this case you would be qualified in any meaningful way you are to extoll your opinion on the subject at all. If you have no opinion on it, then how can you make any cogent arguments to the veracity of what the evidence is, by virtue of giving opinions on anything else after the fact?
You are egregiously, unfathomably, and detestably stupid to even say something like this.
phx's standard deflection tactic is a refusal to engage evidence inconvenient to his worldview. After Newtown he hyped the invented meme that a father of a victim was heckled, but refused to admit watching the video proving his attacks wrong. There have been other instances as well.
phx likes to pretend he's a moderate, but it's an act.
This is just batting a near dead mouse at this point. Let it die - it's got no fight left in it, and hasn't for hours. It's just gonna start stinking up the place now.
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation if you don't have the necessary knowledge?
I'm not offering objective assessments and offering opinions. I'll tell you anything you want to know about that. I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics.
Feel free to tell me what any of your qualifications are.
You are egregiously, unfathomably, and detestably stupid to even say something like this.
Okay. Don't have a conniption. You need me to take it back or something?
Take what back? You are either lying or stupid or stupidly lying. You're choice. I'm not having a conniption, but I just can't believe you are this blatantly out in the open about how utterly ignorant you are. You don't even care to pretend that you give a shit anymore. Why are you even here then?
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation if you don't have the necessary knowledge?
I'm not offering objective assessments I'm offering opinions. I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics.
Feel free to tell me what any of your qualifications are.
I didn't vote for Obama. So that makes my opinion clearly better than yours. This isn't even arguable any longer. My dog also didn't vote for him. Even the dead one wasn't that dumb. They did both get pre-filled ballots from the DNC though.
@phx, Re: you liberals Words are words. Actions are actions. You can say whatever you want about your attitudes and allegiances, but your actions are clear: you never attack liberals, you never add energy to actively downplay or undermine any issue whose direction/topic could hurt liberals or Democrats, and you always do your best to attack or blame conservatives for just about anything.
So, yeah: you don't speak for all liberals, but since you all are low-information grunts spreading the official talking points, it is a distinction without a difference.
I'm not arguing with you, phx. You asked. I answered. I thought the stupidity of Obama support was obvious by now, but when you admitted that you don't know nuthin bout no contemporary international and national politics, your ignorance made sense and I was trying be helpful. Don't get angry. It ain't like that. We all appreciate your hard work to get Althouse comment counts up. The rest of us get things a little quicker and don't blather on saying pretty much nothing for a hundred comments. You are our go-to gal.
----------------- Agree, its sort of like when you see a Lefty with a "Free Mumia!" t-shirt or a poster with a picture of terrorist lawyer Lynne Stewart with the caption "Lynne Stewart persecuted 1st Amendment Hero".
It makes you want to go out and give money to the Left so they can get a 100 more Lefties in Mumia t-shirts or waving the face of a woman that can peel paint just by looking at it.
If the Left is crafty, they will try to get the scumbag to run as a Republican after he gets released from his probation violation, but before he commits his next fraud or tries establishing another meth lab.
Have Nakoula endorse various right-wingers! Pay to fly him to tight Republican races!
Yes, Inga, who cares whether or not the Obama administration let citizens die and then tried to cover it up to preserve political power, or whether they colluded with journalists to preserve the ignorance of low information voters. The truly important thing is irritating conservatives. (If, in fact, that is what is happening, rather than highlighting one's own hyper-partisan agenda)
Phx, You don't have the credentials to make spurious claims that Republicans are championing Nakoula. Your self-assessed credentials for having opinions doesn't seem to stop you from believing obvious nonsense, but does prevent you from having an opinion on whether Susan Rice lied? Enough so that you think it worthwhile to question every one else's credentials?
It is fascinating how helpful your false humility is to The liberal cause.
I'm sure you ate lots of Klondike bars, hence your dumpy old woman figure. Thanks for sparing us your bug eyed chubby pictures this go around though.
And as to you staying at best westerns, I highly doubt it. People don't take ho's to hotels, as the saying goes.
Anything to add on the topic of how happy you are that people are thrown in jail as scapegoats for the failures of lefty politicians, or just your usual off topic thread hijacking drivel?
"Anyone who has a basic college education should be able to analyze events sufficiently well to have an informed opinion."
Well, that leaves me out. I guess Obama is a genius. I just don't understand how so much extra education over the basics seems to still leave one so incompetent. Maybe it's just beyond me. If only I'd stayed in school. I guess I'm stuck on stupid without them hours of listening to the kind of preachers you all have in them there institutes of higher lernin, like Obama. He knows stuff I probably couldn't even understand if he splained it to me real slow.
Still, even us idiots know when a man is a liar, and when a man is dead, and we understand honor and responsibility just fine. Say, how many classes do you take in honor and responsibility in that big University. Seems like a lot of high educated people missed them classes along the way.
Seems to me a lot of educated people seem to disagree about whether or not Obama was telling the truth about that video causing them men to die. A lot of them must be either dumb or liars. Maybe they just need a little more schooling.
Seems to me a lot of educated people seem to disagree about whether or not Obama was telling the truth about that video causing them men to die. A lot of them must be either dumb or liars.
Who said educated people disagreeing about these matters were either dumb or liars? Not me.
I suggest a statue of Nakoula to honor his sacrifice to America in one of those beautiful squares in South Carolina. Smack dab in the middle with benches and pretty flowers. It's the least thing we could do.
If interested, go back to the Jason Collins thread, she gets into it with the commenter "Matt" She called her daughter brittle, a term he and many other parents of children with diabetes find extremely offensive. It's a huge clusterfuck of a thread, but the newest page has the back and forth. I'll repost Matt's reply below.
Matt said... Inga said... And Matt, the term is still being used, you are a strange one, I would wonder why anybody needs to sit up with a child with controlled juvenile diabetes. I think you may be lying or you are obsessive, whatever the reason, it's not normal.
4/30/13, 10:43 AM
How I care for my daughter is none of your fucking business. Controlled diabetes does not guarantee safety and you should damn well know that. Now stop talking about my daughter. Jesus, you claim not to get personal but you won't drop it. Fuck off.
And as I said, if you have a problem with the term being considered archaic, bring it up with Merck.
While looking it up, it became clear that many people find the usage of "brittle" offensive. You want to keep calling people the diabetic equivalent of "retard" that is your business.
"I suggest a statue of Nakoula to honor his sacrifice to America in one of those beautiful squares in South Carolina. Smack dab in the middle with benches and pretty flowers. "
No, Inga, what he deserves is to be thrown in jail and ass-raped frequently for daring to mock the Prophet. You can't be too tough on those goddamn parole violators either. This scum is far worse than Gosnell.
And if it helps Hillary get off the hook, well, that's a very nice little coincidence too, isn't it?
How worthless does a person's life have to be to do this for hours? I'm sorry for you man. Are you locked in your room?
Oh stop stop you're hurting my feelings. Bagho20 is getting personal with me stop stop.
That's one of those things that's supposed to shut me up, right? Some card you play with your wife or kids or coworkers? They're all trembly in front of you?
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
But apparently her love of authoritarian lefties jailing people for their speech just brought the sloppy bitch out of hiding. Or maybe she hit the bottle again, who knows.
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
And you...I would get some fucking real help fast.
Exiled, Matt and I were having a discussion about his daughter's diabetes. I asked him if she was brittle. If you are a health care provider, you would know IMMEDIATLY that this is not an insult, but is terminology used to describe unstable and varying blood sugars.
Doctors and nurses have used the term brittle for many years and continue to use it and in no way is meant as an insult. Only people looking to find offense could possibly find it in the term brittle diabetic.
Inga, when Benghazi broke, you said we were all rushing to judgement and that you wanted to see what the facts were in this case (although you had absolutely no problem with immediately condemning this filmmaker.)
Now the facts are coming out and it's apparent to anybody with an IQ above room temp that the filmmaker provided a convenient excuse to an administration desperate to cover their collective asses, well, you really are not very interested in the facts after all, are you?
People, including very brave Navy SEALs, died for no good reason, abandoned by the Obama adminstration - and the left's response is to continue to mock the right for giving a shit.
Nice.
Noonan wrote of the Obama adminstration's cynical actions: how low must their opinion of the American people be to think they could get away with this forever.
I'd say their low opinion of the American people is completely justified. They can get away with anything because their supporters seem to positively love being lied to.
I am not clinical and have no idea if "brittle" is a commonly used term or not and if it is considered offensive. I do know several endocrinologists and will ask them the next time I see them.
Yes please do Exiled. I'm sure they would laugh at the notion that it is offensive, sort of like saying "inflammation" is a offensive term, ah well too much nonsense for one day.
Noonan voted for Obama. What's she bitching about?
Why should I listen to her when she's all shocked shocked that he's an incompetent liar bent on ridding us of the Constitution? No shit, Sherlock.
Megan McCardle is the same. I won't read them anymore. Why link to such gullible people? Their judgement is poor. Why pay attention when they think they've wished up?
Inga, you and phx haven't given me any reason to believe you do give a shit. Show me you're interested in the truth in this case EVEN IF IT HURTS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, and I'll believe you.
All you've done here is mock the people who do care what happened to those 4 Americans in September. You haven't demonstrated the slightest concern about what happened to the Ambassador and those SEALs. And you've poohed poohed the fact that a man is basically sitting in prison, not for the petty crimes he committed, but because his video was used to get Hillary off the hook.
You can say "you care" all you want. You obviously don't.
Inga, at the time of our exchange, I provided links that showed how Merck had deemed the term inaccurate and archaic. I also provided links to a forum for parents of diabetic children wherein some, not all, but some spoke of how they found the term offensive.
Although it is pathological with you, do not lie about me, my daughter or anything that was posted that night. Everything I wrote is still there. I don't know how much you scrubbed but if anyone wants to see the whole exchange, they can go see what a nasty, heartless person you are.
And, Inga, I never, NEVER want to see you reference my daughter.
There is a reason you fled that night and hid behind sock puppets for two weeks. For at least a moment, you saw how hateful you are and experienced a moment of guilt. Unfortunately, that moment was fleeting and you are back to your usual twisted, nasty self.
Exiled, the right is not the only side who gives a shit,
That's not the question ... it was "what" is worth giving a shit about.
For the Left, politics trumps everything else, including the lives of 4 Americans in Benghazi and the civil rights of an unsavory character.
And regarding said unsavory guy, if one doesn't protect the rights of such people, what makes you believe your own won't be abrogated once you become a piece of convenience for the powers-that-be?
phx haven't given me any reason to believe you do give a shit. Show me you're interested in the truth in this case EVEN IF IT HURTS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
I said it here before and I'll say it again. Wherever the investigation goes, follow. Hold anyone accountable.
Matt, you honestly just need to stop this nonsense. YOU referenced your own daughter, I politely asked you if she was brittle because you had stated you needed to sit up with her all night every night, now why don't YOU shut the fuck up, I'm sick to death of your hysterionics about a perceived insult, BECAUSE you misinterpreted my concern and didn't understand the terminology, GO TO HELL.
I and other people on this forum said repeatedly when this filmmaker was arrested that we do not consider him heroic. (ST may, but that's his own opinion.)
That's not the point. Even jerks have First Amendment rights. Hell, Michael Moore and Bill Maher say offensive and stupid things every time they open their mouths. I don't think they should go to jail for it.
Inga, you are lying again. You reference only one part of a lengthy back and forth. You disgusting troll who cries about people revealing her personal data when, if someone happens to share something personal, she will throw it back at them whenever she has the chance. You are disgusting and you KNOW it which is why you fled after that exchange. You know exactly what you are and it is not pretty.
Honestly you folks want us liberals to engage you about political things, but some commenters here make that nearly impossible because of these STUPID issues like with Matt and his nutty reaction regarding my comcern for his daughter. It's already beyond ABSURD. And then the local loons like METH, PMJ and a few other notable psychos.
phx said: "Wherever the investigation goes, follow. Hold anyone accountable."
Uh huh. And earlier you said:
"I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics."
You also said you knew nothing of what Susan Rice had said.
So - you're all for the truth, but if you don't pay attention to the story and keep yourself willfully ignorant of the facts, well, then you'll never find yourself in the painful, painful situation of having to agree with conservatives. Gotcha.
Keep on staying ignorant, phx. You're safer that way.
Matt , you have joined the league of loons here on Althouse, what an honor to you, ugh, this place has gotten to be a joke, too bad for Ann Althouse, what a shame.
Inga, did you "brag to your kids" about how, when someone mentioned a hypothetical that made no reference to his daughter, you turned around and said "how dare you use your daughter like that!" Did you? Are real PROUD of yourself there? Are you?
And that same night, were you patting Ritmo on the back for being such a "good guy" after his relentless and homophobic attacks on Palladian. Did you brag about that to your kids to?
Forget about them, Inga. You haven't addressed my 11:04 post, except to say you really do care, despite having never provided us with any indication of that.
I'm sorry I asked about the diabetes. Now you're responding to Matt instead of addressing the topic of the thread.
"He deserves to go to jail, but finding him and arresting him was just a big show to bolster the stupid video causation lie."
This!
The late-night arrest with dozens of officers, etc... what a crock.
What would routinely happen, in such a case, is that his parole officer would call him during PO's normal working hours, and say, "Mr. Nakaoula, can you come in this afternoon, or tomorrow? We need to talk about some things."
Heck, I know somebody who was out, not on parole but on bail, waiting charges on a DUI (not his first.) One of the conditions of being out on bail was not drinking. So this fellow goes in on a Wednesday afternoon for his first meeting with his PO (same office does parole and bail release, don't know if that's true in every state.) During the meeting it comes out that the guy has been drinking while out on bail. "I'm sorry, Mr. XYZ, that's a violation of the terms of your bail, so we're going to have to cancel it. Can you come back Friday afternoon so we can process you back into jail?"
Exiled, I still am not sure what you think is being covered up, except for incompetence at high levels, someone who made the decisions to not send forces ( was it a realistic expectation that forces could get there on time and was the action already over by the time they wouldve actually gotten there) and the lack of security. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone getting to the bottom of it. I'm just not sure there is any there, there.
Inga, I am not the one who makes multiple sock puppets, brays about "not caring about it" when her personal info is subsequently revealed and then later the someday starts caterwauling about her personal info being spread everywhere. You are deranged. You have multiple personal disorder or are manic depressive or bipolar. Something is clearly very wrong with you between the ears. So, while you are irritating, the irritation is tinged with sadness and pity.
Through all your shitting on conservatives here, there is one thing you clearly know: despite what a nasty person you are, you know that no one here would ever do any harm to you because, if the conservatives here were really as awful as you pretend they are, the moment your personal info was revealed, you would have left and never come back.
As such, your persistence in remaining here and being, well, you is your testament and tribute to the fundamental decency of the conservative people here you daily treat like shit. So, thank you for acknowledging my fundamental decency and every time I see you laying down your thick veneer of garbage, I will remember that you are really saying, "Thank you all you wonderful people for tolerating my inane and insane ravings."
"That's one of those things that's supposed to shut me up, right?"
Like that would ever work. You clearly don't know when to shut up, and wouldn't dare let any one make you. You're a big girl now, and you can do what you want. You're really making good use of the time here.
Yes, from what I see worthless pretty much covers it.
This Nakoula guy is the only good guy I can find in this whole mess. He had the guts to ridicule the Jihadis. So, his film was clunky. Do you know of any studio that has the courage to fund a film at the level necessary to make the case against the Jihadis?
Nobody else has the guts to do it. This lonely, artistically challenged little guy is, so far, the only one. He had no money, no studio backing... nothing... and yet, he risked suffering the fate of Theo van Gogh.
He's got the guts to face off with the Jihadis. So, he's not a great film maker. The great film makers are all too fucking cowardly to go up against the Jihadis.
And Matt for someone who doesn't even know what the term " brittle" means, you have no authority or the required psychological training to make a diagnosis on me. Heal thyself first, and then shut the fuck up, you crybaby.
Inga said... And Matt for someone who doesn't even know what the term " brittle" means, you have no authority or the required psychological training to make a diagnosis on me. Heal thyself fitst, and then shut the fuck up, you crybaby.
5/9/13, 11:52 PM
Thank you, Inga, for your kind tidings. I hope they help you feel better.
Shouting Thomas, perhaps you should voice your concerns to Matt here, hmmm? If he and the nut ball PMJ wouldn't have addressed me I wouldn't need to respond, now would I? That's not difficult to understand right ST?
I'm done here, too many nuts to have a decent conversation, ugh, what is becoming of the Althouse comments section?
Darlene, way up thread Cedarford posted some stuff about why he was supposedly arrested that included all kinds of nefarious badness. I don't know how much it is true or just more cover fabricated by people doing their part for the administration.
With regards to Nakoula, Benghazi, heck, any of the Obama Teams cluster-oopsies, I understand why they are doing what they are doing, loathsome though it may be. The people I really take issue with is the press corps. (I mean, "corpse" in Obama-speak. Though it does fit in this context...) All of this stuff and they just keep covering for him. Not just the big stuff like Benghazi but even going back to small things like Joe Biden's racist comments. They continually and consistently get a pass.
The Obama team is earnestly trying to "make America better". (Bear with me! I mean that I believe that he thinks destroying what makes America great will make it better.) The problem is that we don't have the same curious and aggressive press we had when Bush was in office. The press is the bigger problem here.
There are probably different jurisdictional procedures but... Doesn't a parole violator still have to be arraigned on a parole violation charge? Was an arraignment held and, if so, is there a transcript available? To do otherwise would place an awful lot of power in the hands of parole/police personnel. They could jail anybody on parole for a long time. Wouldn't this excessive power provide opportunity for corruption/
Last time you said you were leaving a thread you stayed till four in the morning. You're in love with us nuts aren't you. You like us around late in the night calling you a bad girl, don't you?
LOL, bagoh. I think you are on to something. Why would she stick around? She clearly is not afraid of anyone here and thinks we are as awful as she pretends.
You know, do you remember in 3rd grade when the boys and girls would tease and torment each other because they secretly liked each other? I think we have some of that here. Inga likes us! And, in her increasingly diminished mental state, she is regressing to her childhood, thus, she can only express it with her nastiness. It also explains the desire to play with sock puppets!
Without doubt, but it seems like that will not change soon, because if they have not been shamed by what has happened so far, they cannot be shamed into responsible journalism. They will not change. The thing is, alternative media and Fox are pretty widely heard, and there are still a lot people who want to be lied too. It's just more comfortable for them. The real problem is voters who are not discerning, and often, it's on purpose. The nation has been infantilized and feminized into a state of majority irresponsibility, so that's what's winning.
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
But apparently her love of authoritarian lefties jailing people for their speech just brought the sloppy bitch out of hiding. Or maybe she hit the bottle again, who knows.
Just remember, she did it for the lulz and to show her kids how she's the cool mom.
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phx said... You guys still trying to make a hero out of this douchebag?
Sorry that I'm late to this discussion. I've been on jury duty for the last two days.
Because we had reasonable doubt, we had to render a verdict of not guilty. We believed that this guy did most of what the police said he did, and the man had a lenthy criminal past, but there were some discrepancies, and eventually we felt that the burden of proof wasn't sufficient to render a guilty verdict.
Let me explain something to you phx, our founding fathers wrote our first laws such that it would be better to let one guilty person go, than to imprison one innocent person.
It's hard to say if you understand this concept. Perhaps you're doing what you often do and show up to just argue and ridicule others who comment on this blog. Irregardless, you don't fucking get it.
Let me explain something to you phx, our founding fathers wrote our first laws such that it would be better to let one guilty person go, than to imprison one innocent person.
I have no problem what-so-fucking ever if they let this guy go. I also have no problem if he gets tied to the Republican Party either. I expect you guys to insist he does.
phx said... I don't have enough information to offer 'objective assessments' of contemporary international and national politics.
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Yes, because knowing about "contemporary international and national politics" is like totally required to understand that Hillary Clinton reduced security at the Consulate in Libya and Susan Rice took to the television to lie about the nature of the attack.
I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
As I've said, ignorance is a virtue for you idiots.
You have no interest, none at all, in facts that would contradict your worldview. So you won't watch Susan Rice's testimony, you would read about it, and you'll pretend this is all some big complicated mess that will be unraveled by an "investigation" you won't pay attention to.
That's nice.
Anyway,
ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.
White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.
That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said about the talking points in November.
You're nothing more than a pathetic hack who comes here to say pathetic hack things.
So Democrats - Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
@bagoh20 "Anyone who has a basic college education should be able to analyze events sufficiently well to have an informed opinion."
Well, that leaves me out.
No, not at all. You don't have to go to college to get a basic college education. The College of Hard Knocks works just as well.
Or to put it more formal terms, a modern college education is neither sufficient nor necessary in itself. If you work to get educated at college, than that is one way to get the critical thinking skills necessary to form useful opinions. If you just allow yourself to be brainwashed with liberal tropes, maybe not. Or if you are a good observer of human behavior, as you seem to be, you can skip college as a waste of your time.
Running a successful business means you have the credentials to be listened to on nearly any topic, in my opinion.
So Democrats - Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
phx said... It's okay for you to be here to ridicule lefties, we're not supposed to spoil that for you, eh? TS.
Those on the right aren't here specifically to ridicule lefties. This is one of the few moderate blogs that aren't openly hostile to conservatives. They're here to engage those moderate views.
On the other hand the leftists are here with the clearly discernable and often openly expressed purpose of disrupting that engagement.
So the fantasy that both are somehow equally guilty can only be maintained by limiting the evaluation to one small piece of the environment.
phx said... Yeah Marshal you don't ridicule your political opponents here at all.
Calling me a hypocrite is your method of calling attention away from the differing reasons why each of us comments here. The distraction tactic is a tacit admission I'm correct.
And I don't ridicule political opponents generally. I ridicule people who are only here to disrupt. People who don't offer goodwill deserve none in return.
So Democrats - Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
Cedarford is wrong. The only criminal violation was Nakoula had obtained a California driver's license under a false name. The other violations had to do with lying to his PO and holding himself out to others with aliases.
ALL of this is time served stuff. Except the Fed need him tucked away so they make noises he put all the people in the film in danger because they insulted Mohammed (PissBeUponHim) and because Islamists will murder over cartoons and insults, Nakoula must do jail time.
@phx, I ridicule people who ridicule others - of which you are often one.
So now ridiculing is okay? I thought you said it wasn't.
What possibly could be different from what you said before?
Oh, it is okay when you are doing the ridiculing?
...and you have the temerity to call other people hypocrites? You have demonstrated hypocrisy on at least 3 different topics in this discussion thread alone.
phx said... I ridicule people who ridicule others - of which you are often one.
This isn't about who ridicules who, it's about purposes in commenting. Yours is only to disrupt other people from engaging, as you have again tacitly admitted by distracting the discussion to some other topic.
I have always been a bit blase about this, and maybe I shouldn't have been. Seen too many cop shows where they violate parolees to put pressure on them on a routine basis. That sort of thing. So, not surprised that the feds would use this on the guy, who should have known to keep his nose clean.
But, there seems to be evidence (above) that the sort of things that he was on parole for wouldn't have warranted this sort of time. Coming more and more to believe that he was (IHMO inadvertently) a hero.
The more that the militant Muslims react violently to this sort of thing (the video this time), I think the more that it is going to happen in this country. The left is going to continue to act defensively and protectively when it comes to Allah, but I think that this sort of pandering is wearing on a lot of Americans, and would not be surprised if their resistance to doing something about it is eroding. Our faiths are routinely attacked by the left, whether by art (Piss Christ), protest (bottomless woman in nun's habit), etc., but somehow Islam and their Prophet are off limits. Sorry. Ain't gonna work. If the entire left is going to melt down any time that their Prophet is ridiculed, etc., then it is going to happen, more and more.
Inga said... No I've mocked people who think Nakola os some sort of hero, that is all.
Inga lies again. go to the tape. she was screaming for him to be jailed. said the video caused her daughter to be in danger and caused the ambassador's death. she was identified as someone with a foreigners view of the 1st Amendment i.e. everyone should be free to say whatever the government allows them to. that's also when she started using her Girls From Brazil birth name.
This isn't about who ridicules who, it's about purposes in commenting. Yours is only to disrupt other people from engaging, as you have again tacitly admitted by distracting the discussion to some other topic.
April Apple wrote: "So Democrats - Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened? Please answer."
Ain't gonna happen, April.
But there is this: According to the National Journal, the Administration lied because they knew if the truth were told Republicans in Congress would have been unreasonable and confrontive - or some such adjectives.
So, you see, it was, after all, the Republicans' fault. (Actually, phx, Igna, garage, or any of the Obamatrolls might have said this if they were as "astute" as the journalists from the NJ.) LOL!
Wow, some of the comments here really have no basis in reality.
Rush mentioned that while the Cleveland monster got a bail set, Nikola gets no bail.
Nakoula was out on parole and violated his probation. Probation violators were already "out on bail" before they violated the terms of their release. That's what this clown did.
His conviction was for fraud and using stolen identities, which Nakoula/Bacile repeated with this movie. He wasn't allowed to use computers without his probation officer giving permission. This last claws is very common with modern crimes making it very hard for parolees to make a living. But Bacile/Nakoula wasn't making a living, he was defrauding people yet again.
Nakoula/Bacile owes about $700,000 in restitution, which he wasn't paying. Raising money for this movie should have gone to pay back the previous victims of his crimes.
This guy is another two-bit Bernie Maddoff and meth manufacturer, but for some reason, folks want to make a hero/martyr out of the guy. Maybe folks have been watching too much Breaking Bad.
I play Eve Online. The staffer that was killed in Benghazi - whether you know him as Sean Smith or Vile Rat - was "one of ours".
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«Oldest ‹Older 201 – 367 of 367Death seems like more than they hoped for, I think finding someone they could trump up a charge on was more than they expected.
Actually, I think they had that video "in the pocket" for just such an emergency. The crew running the show don't seem very good at thinking on their feet, but they are good at opposition research.
One thing they didn't want to see during the election cycle was an organized terrorist attack on American interests. So I actually think being able to bag and tag Nakoula was their insurance.
Jay said...
In your experience, is re-incarceration normal for Nakoula's parole violation
I was speaking only thinking of the making of the video.
He apparently got a fake driver's license and that, without a doubt, would land you in jail whether on parole for federal or state supervised releases.
I regret the error.
Wow, democrats went after their own for getting a fake drivers license? Hmmm, guess they are really clamping down on their voter ID fraud now huh?
I'm not one of those partisans who wants to seize on this to drive Obama out of office. That would be a disaster, because he's black. It would lead to decades of political revenge.
Me neither. They could have avoided this entire fiasco by saying "We fucked up. We should've got more support to them, but we realized we didn't have enough time — or thought we didn't have enough time. We are sorry for their loss in defending our own ... "
Of course it was too close to the election.
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation if you don't have the necessary knowledge?
I got into this commenting on Republicans making a champion of Nakoula. I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation
Which objective assessment of mine were you referring to?
So Obama is a Muslim. What is newsworthy about that?
They could have avoided this entire fiasco by saying "We fucked up. We should've got more support to them, but we realized we didn't have enough time — or thought we didn't have enough time. We are sorry for their loss in defending our own ... "
Of course it was too close to the election.
Make 'em fry.
"Think of how low your opinion of the American people has to be to think you can get away, forever, with that.
phx said:
"I'll wait until I'm sure before joining the necktie party."
Nuff said.
phx said...
I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
You do understand how utterly laughable this is right? To make a statement like this right? That you have no opinion on a UN Ambassador that went out and regurgitated and lied five separate times over American and International airwaves to proclaim that the attack on the annex in Benghazi that led to the deaths and wounding of Americans and the deaths of four of them, was due to a spontaneous protest to a video no one had ever seen or knew about?
I'm not exactly sure how in this case you would be qualified in any meaningful way you are to extoll your opinion on the subject at all. If you have no opinion on it, then how can you make any cogent arguments to the veracity of what the evidence is, by virtue of giving opinions on anything else after the fact?
You are egregiously, unfathomably, and detestably stupid to even say something like this.
phx, your comments have devolved to an even lower level.
Just plain irrelevant and stupid.
Are you drunk or drugged? Do you have a clue what you're trying to do here?
phx said...
So you believe Susan Rice then?
I didn't hear [Susan] Rice.
phx's standard deflection tactic is a refusal to engage evidence inconvenient to his worldview. After Newtown he hyped the invented meme that a father of a victim was heckled, but refused to admit watching the video proving his attacks wrong. There have been other instances as well.
phx likes to pretend he's a moderate, but it's an act.
"Do you have a clue what you're trying to do here?"
Waste your time? Piss you off?
Shout, you, of all people, know what's wrong with phx.
It's called flop sweat.
Nobody's buying his facacta talking points, but he's got to keep doing the dance.
Nuff said.
Sure with you whenever YOU open your mouth, it's "Nuff said".
Bullshit on you.
After Newtown he hyped the invented meme that a father of a victim was heckled, but refused to admit watching the video proving his attacks wrong.
You have me confused for someone else or you're trolling, as usual.
Of course it was too close to the election.
That's what I mean about them not being very fast on their feet. In a country with a non-delinquent press this would have cost him the election.
You are egregiously, unfathomably, and detestably stupid to even say something like this.
Okay. Don't have a conniption. You need me to take it back or something?
This is just batting a near dead mouse at this point. Let it die - it's got no fight left in it, and hasn't for hours. It's just gonna start stinking up the place now.
phx calling someone else a troll.
The irony.
So Godfather- It's OK to stick sleazeballs in jail?
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation if you don't have the necessary knowledge?
I'm not offering objective assessments and offering opinions. I'll tell you anything you want to know about that. I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics.
Feel free to tell me what any of your qualifications are.
phx said...
You are egregiously, unfathomably, and detestably stupid to even say something like this.
Okay. Don't have a conniption. You need me to take it back or something?
Take what back? You are either lying or stupid or stupidly lying. You're choice. I'm not having a conniption, but I just can't believe you are this blatantly out in the open about how utterly ignorant you are. You don't even care to pretend that you give a shit anymore. Why are you even here then?
Then how can you make an objective assessment of the situation if you don't have the necessary knowledge?
I'm not offering objective assessments I'm offering opinions. I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics.
Feel free to tell me what any of your qualifications are.
We know Methedras's qualifications to tell us his opinions. He's an engineer and works with people impacted by Obamacare.
Anyone else?
If we're going to stick sleazeballs in jail - we can start with Harry Reid and Jon Corzine.. Even the Pelosi family + Hillary!
So, lefties, and bad faithers...
Why did the Obama administration SAY over and over for weeks that the attack was based on a youtube video?
Please answer the question with a direct answer that doesn't include the words: Bush.. Iraq... or right wing media.
"Anyone else?"
I didn't vote for Obama. So that makes my opinion clearly better than yours. This isn't even arguable any longer. My dog also didn't vote for him. Even the dead one wasn't that dumb. They did both get pre-filled ballots from the DNC though.
@phx,
Re: you liberals
Words are words. Actions are actions. You can say whatever you want about your attitudes and allegiances, but your actions are clear: you never attack liberals, you never add energy to actively downplay or undermine any issue whose direction/topic could hurt liberals or Democrats, and you always do your best to attack or blame conservatives for just about anything.
So, yeah: you don't speak for all liberals, but since you all are low-information grunts spreading the official talking points, it is a distinction without a difference.
I didn't vote for Obama. So that makes my opinion clearly better than yours. This isn't even arguable any longer.
So don't argue anymore. WTF? Your argument is always "I'm always right, you are always wrong." Period.
What would I care what you think? I don't.
Scratch a liberal, find a fascist.
I'm not arguing with you, phx. You asked. I answered. I thought the stupidity of Obama support was obvious by now, but when you admitted that you don't know nuthin bout no contemporary international and national politics, your ignorance made sense and I was trying be helpful. Don't get angry. It ain't like that. We all appreciate your hard work to get Althouse comment counts up. The rest of us get things a little quicker and don't blather on saying pretty much nothing for a hundred comments. You are our go-to gal.
The rest of us get things a little quicker and don't blather on saying pretty much nothing for a hundred comments. You are our go-to gal.
That's game.
I said "I don't have enough information to offer 'objective assessments' of contemporary international and national politics."
And then I asked for anyone else's qualifications. Bagoh20 said his qualification was he didn't vote for Obama.
So yeah. I'm not interested in your pronunciamentoes unless you get some other skin in the game.
I ate a Klondike bar and slept in a Best Western. Those are my qualifications and I'm sticking by them.
Oh hi, Baby.
phx said...
But I love you righties making this asshole your cause célèbre.
The moderates are leaving you.
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Agree, its sort of like when you see a Lefty with a "Free Mumia!" t-shirt or a poster with a picture of terrorist lawyer Lynne Stewart with the caption "Lynne Stewart persecuted 1st Amendment Hero".
It makes you want to go out and give money to the Left so they can get a 100 more Lefties in Mumia t-shirts or waving the face of a woman that can peel paint just by looking at it.
If the Left is crafty, they will try to get the scumbag to run as a Republican after he gets released from his probation violation, but before he commits his next fraud or tries establishing another meth lab.
Have Nakoula endorse various right-wingers! Pay to fly him to tight Republican races!
Who me?
What credentials do you think are required in order to have an informed opinion?
Anyone who has a basic college education should be able to analyze events sufficiently well to have an informed opinion.
All you ne to do is read a wide range of different sources, critically.
Of course, you have to actually want to know/understand.
If the Left is crafty
Nobody needs to be crafty. The right is twice as dumb as the need for outside help.
What credentials do you think are required in order to have an informed opinion?
I don't know. I told you what my opinion was.
I like Phx's approach at driving the righties nuts, not saying he's intentionally doing so, or is he?;)
Agree, its sort of like when you see a Lefty with a "Free Mumia!" t-shirt
Sure, sure it is. That's right.
Yes, Inga, who cares whether or not the Obama administration let citizens die and then tried to cover it up to preserve political power, or whether they colluded with journalists to preserve the ignorance of low information voters. The truly important thing is irritating conservatives.
(If, in fact, that is what is happening, rather than highlighting one's own hyper-partisan agenda)
Hey, its the fat cunt who likes to make fun of peoples diabetic children after criticizing others for personal attacks.
Welcome back cow. Decide to quit sockpuppeting on those other handles after you were called out on it?
Maybe if Ritmo isn't still being deleted he can come join and you two and phx can have one of your thread hijack twatfests.
Yes Nathan, of course you are right, right as rain, ever so very very right.
Phx,
You don't have the credentials to make spurious claims that Republicans are championing Nakoula.
Your self-assessed credentials for having opinions doesn't seem to stop you from believing obvious nonsense, but does prevent you from having an opinion on whether Susan Rice lied? Enough so that you think it worthwhile to question every one else's credentials?
It is fascinating how helpful your false humility is to The liberal cause.
Inga,
If you can't stand the image in the mirror, blame the mirror. That always works.
You don't have the credentials to make spurious claims that Republicans are championing Nakoula.
Psst. Read the title of this blog entry, above, goose.
Yes Nathan, I will most certainly do as you say, because you are right so very very right.
Why phx, if you really meant what you said with your little "aw shucks" routine, oh wouldn't have the credentials to be 100% of your own name.
But, of course, the application of your false humility dovetails exactly with the needs of the Democrat party,
Impressive.
I'm sure you ate lots of Klondike bars, hence your dumpy old woman figure. Thanks for sparing us your bug eyed chubby pictures this go around though.
And as to you staying at best westerns, I highly doubt it. People don't take ho's to hotels, as the saying goes.
Anything to add on the topic of how happy you are that people are thrown in jail as scapegoats for the failures of lefty politicians, or just your usual off topic thread hijacking drivel?
"Anyone who has a basic college education should be able to analyze events sufficiently well to have an informed opinion."
Well, that leaves me out. I guess Obama is a genius. I just don't understand how so much extra education over the basics seems to still leave one so incompetent. Maybe it's just beyond me. If only I'd stayed in school. I guess I'm stuck on stupid without them hours of listening to the kind of preachers you all have in them there institutes of higher lernin, like Obama. He knows stuff I probably couldn't even understand if he splained it to me real slow.
Still, even us idiots know when a man is a liar, and when a man is dead, and we understand honor and responsibility just fine. Say, how many classes do you take in honor and responsibility in that big University. Seems like a lot of high educated people missed them classes along the way.
Right on time! HERE'S a GREAT representative of contemporary right-wing thinking! President-Mom-Jeans.
Still, even us idiots know when a man is a liar, and when a man is dead, and we understand honor and responsibility just fine.
Sure sure sure. Everyone trusts your judgement.
Phx, he never disappoints.
Seems to me a lot of educated people seem to disagree about whether or not Obama was telling the truth about that video causing them men to die. A lot of them must be either dumb or liars. Maybe they just need a little more schooling.
That's just my low-information opinion, Inga.
Seems to me a lot of educated people seem to disagree about whether or not Obama was telling the truth about that video causing them men to die. A lot of them must be either dumb or liars.
Who said educated people disagreeing about these matters were either dumb or liars? Not me.
Oh yeah. That was you.
I suggest a statue of Nakoula to honor his sacrifice to America in one of those beautiful squares in South Carolina. Smack dab in the middle with benches and pretty flowers. It's the least thing we could do.
Inga made fun of someone's diabetic kid?
Shorter phx: I don't know nuthin' 'bout no Benghazi!
Not that it stops her from sharing whatever exactly it is she's trying to say. Basically her posts are like thin dribbles of spit.
But it gives her something to do, which is nice for her.
Exiled, NO Inga DID not, that would be PMJ lying and being a psycho again, bu what else is new?
I think Phx is a guy.
How worthless does a person's life have to be to do this for hours? I'm sorry for you man. Are you locked in your room?
Exile,
If interested, go back to the Jason Collins thread, she gets into it with the commenter "Matt" She called her daughter brittle, a term he and many other parents of children with diabetes find extremely offensive. It's a huge clusterfuck of a thread, but the newest page has the back and forth. I'll repost Matt's reply below.
Matt said...
Inga said...
And Matt, the term is still being used, you are a strange one, I would wonder why anybody needs to sit up with a child with controlled juvenile diabetes. I think you may be lying or you are obsessive, whatever the reason, it's not normal.
4/30/13, 10:43 AM
How I care for my daughter is none of your fucking business. Controlled diabetes does not guarantee safety and you should damn well know that. Now stop talking about my daughter. Jesus, you claim not to get personal but you won't drop it. Fuck off.
And as I said, if you have a problem with the term being considered archaic, bring it up with Merck.
While looking it up, it became clear that many people find the usage of "brittle" offensive. You want to keep calling people the diabetic equivalent of "retard" that is your business.
4/30/13, 10:49 AM
"I suggest a statue of Nakoula to honor his sacrifice to America in one of those beautiful squares in South Carolina. Smack dab in the middle with benches and pretty flowers. "
No, Inga, what he deserves is to be thrown in jail and ass-raped frequently for daring to mock the Prophet. You can't be too tough on those goddamn parole violators either. This scum is far worse than Gosnell.
And if it helps Hillary get off the hook, well, that's a very nice little coincidence too, isn't it?
GO TEAM DEMOCRAT! YAY, US!
Bagoh, no one's life is worthless, not even PMJs. You didn't really mean "worthless" did you?
How worthless does a person's life have to be to do this for hours? I'm sorry for you man. Are you locked in your room?
Oh stop stop you're hurting my feelings. Bagho20 is getting personal with me stop stop.
That's one of those things that's supposed to shut me up, right? Some card you play with your wife or kids or coworkers? They're all trembly in front of you?
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
But apparently her love of authoritarian lefties jailing people for their speech just brought the sloppy bitch out of hiding. Or maybe she hit the bottle again, who knows.
I'm supposed to be impressed or something?
bagoh20 gets personal. Uh oh. We're in trouble now.
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
And you...I would get some fucking real help fast.
Exiled, Matt and I were having a discussion about his daughter's diabetes. I asked him if she was brittle. If you are a health care provider, you would know IMMEDIATLY that this is not an insult, but is terminology used to describe unstable and varying blood sugars.
Doctors and nurses have used the term brittle for many years and continue to use it and in no way is meant as an insult. Only people looking to find offense could possibly find it in the term brittle diabetic.
Yes, quite a "discussion."
I'm sure Matt would term it that way as well. It's there to read however, well, the parts that the drink addled old cow hasn't deleted already.
I'll let the lefty twats get back to their thread jacking however.
Good luck with them, good faith commenters.
"The future must not belong to those who insult the prophet."
Inga, when Benghazi broke, you said we were all rushing to judgement and that you wanted to see what the facts were in this case (although you had absolutely no problem with immediately condemning this filmmaker.)
Now the facts are coming out and it's apparent to anybody with an IQ above room temp that the filmmaker provided a convenient excuse to an administration desperate to cover their collective asses, well, you really are not very interested in the facts after all, are you?
People, including very brave Navy SEALs, died for no good reason, abandoned by the Obama adminstration - and the left's response is to continue to mock the right for giving a shit.
Nice.
Noonan wrote of the Obama adminstration's cynical actions: how low must their opinion of the American people be to think they could get away with this forever.
I'd say their low opinion of the American people is completely justified. They can get away with anything because their supporters seem to positively love being lied to.
Exiled, the right is not the only side who gives a shit, but you folks so want to believe that so desperately.
I am not clinical and have no idea if "brittle" is a commonly used term or not and if it is considered offensive. I do know several endocrinologists and will ask them the next time I see them.
Yes please do Exiled. I'm sure they would laugh at the notion that it is offensive, sort of like saying "inflammation" is a offensive term, ah well too much nonsense for one day.
Noonan voted for Obama.
What's she bitching about?
Why should I listen to her when she's all shocked shocked that he's an incompetent liar bent on ridding us of the Constitution?
No shit, Sherlock.
Megan McCardle is the same.
I won't read them anymore.
Why link to such gullible people?
Their judgement is poor.
Why pay attention when they think they've wished up?
I'm still waiting for someone on the left to present a plausible explanation of THE BIG LIE.
("Its no big deal" is not an explanation)
Inga, you and phx haven't given me any reason to believe you do give a shit. Show me you're interested in the truth in this case EVEN IF IT HURTS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION, and I'll believe you.
All you've done here is mock the people who do care what happened to those 4 Americans in September. You haven't demonstrated the slightest concern about what happened to the Ambassador and those SEALs. And you've poohed poohed the fact that a man is basically sitting in prison, not for the petty crimes he committed, but because his video was used to get Hillary off the hook.
You can say "you care" all you want. You obviously don't.
Inga, at the time of our exchange, I provided links that showed how Merck had deemed the term inaccurate and archaic. I also provided links to a forum for parents of diabetic children wherein some, not all, but some spoke of how they found the term offensive.
Although it is pathological with you, do not lie about me, my daughter or anything that was posted that night. Everything I wrote is still there. I don't know how much you scrubbed but if anyone wants to see the whole exchange, they can go see what a nasty, heartless person you are.
And, Inga, I never, NEVER want to see you reference my daughter.
There is a reason you fled that night and hid behind sock puppets for two weeks. For at least a moment, you saw how hateful you are and experienced a moment of guilt. Unfortunately, that moment was fleeting and you are back to your usual twisted, nasty self.
No I've mocked people who think Nakola os some sort of hero, that is all.
Exiled, the right is not the only side who gives a shit,
That's not the question ... it was "what" is worth giving a shit about.
For the Left, politics trumps everything else, including the lives of 4 Americans in Benghazi and the civil rights of an unsavory character.
And regarding said unsavory guy, if one doesn't protect the rights of such people, what makes you believe your own won't be abrogated once you become a piece of convenience for the powers-that-be?
Whores as well as virtuous ladies can be raped.
phx haven't given me any reason to believe you do give a shit. Show me you're interested in the truth in this case EVEN IF IT HURTS THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
I said it here before and I'll say it again. Wherever the investigation goes, follow. Hold anyone accountable.
That doesn't mean I'm going to follow you guys.
I've mocked people who think Nakola os some sort of hero
Do link or quote someone calling Nakoula a "hero".
Put up or shut up.
Matt, you honestly just need to stop this nonsense. YOU referenced your own daughter, I politely asked you if she was brittle because you had stated you needed to sit up with her all night every night, now why don't YOU shut the fuck up, I'm sick to death of your hysterionics about a perceived insult, BECAUSE you misinterpreted my concern and didn't understand the terminology, GO TO HELL.
I and other people on this forum said repeatedly when this filmmaker was arrested that we do not consider him heroic. (ST may, but that's his own opinion.)
That's not the point. Even jerks have First Amendment rights. Hell, Michael Moore and Bill Maher say offensive and stupid things every time they open their mouths. I don't think they should go to jail for it.
But heavens no, nobody can offend the Muslims!
Inga, you are lying again. You reference only one part of a lengthy back and forth. You disgusting troll who cries about people revealing her personal data when, if someone happens to share something personal, she will throw it back at them whenever she has the chance. You are disgusting and you KNOW it which is why you fled after that exchange. You know exactly what you are and it is not pretty.
Honestly you folks want us liberals to engage you about political things, but some commenters here make that nearly impossible because of these STUPID issues like with Matt and his nutty reaction regarding my comcern for his daughter. It's already beyond ABSURD. And then the local loons like METH, PMJ and a few other notable psychos.
phx said: "Wherever the investigation goes, follow. Hold anyone accountable."
Uh huh. And earlier you said:
"I don't have enough information to offer "objective assessments" of contemporary international and national politics."
You also said you knew nothing of what Susan Rice had said.
So - you're all for the truth, but if you don't pay attention to the story and keep yourself willfully ignorant of the facts, well, then you'll never find yourself in the painful, painful situation of having to agree with conservatives.
Gotcha.
Keep on staying ignorant, phx. You're safer that way.
Matt , you have joined the league of loons here on Althouse, what an honor to you, ugh, this place has gotten to be a joke, too bad for Ann Althouse, what a shame.
Inga, did you "brag to your kids" about how, when someone mentioned a hypothetical that made no reference to his daughter, you turned around and said "how dare you use your daughter like that!" Did you? Are real PROUD of yourself there? Are you?
And that same night, were you patting Ritmo on the back for being such a "good guy" after his relentless and homophobic attacks on Palladian. Did you brag about that to your kids to?
Exiled , I have no issue with anyone offending Muslims, I never once defended their actions or religion.
Forget about them, Inga. You haven't addressed my 11:04 post, except to say you really do care, despite having never provided us with any indication of that.
I'm sorry I asked about the diabetes. Now you're responding to Matt instead of addressing the topic of the thread.
Matt SHUT UP. I'm sick to death of you, you are worse than I for derailing a thread.
"I have no issue with anyone offending Muslims"
But that's why this guy is sitting in the klink right now. His video was used as cover for the Obama adminstration's massive fuck-up.
And you don't have to consider him a "hero" to object to him being used as a scapegoat.
Well, I'm off to bed. Early meeting tomorrow. Goodnight all.
bagoh,
"He deserves to go to jail, but finding him and arresting him was just a big show to bolster the stupid video causation lie."
This!
The late-night arrest with dozens of officers, etc... what a crock.
What would routinely happen, in such a case, is that his parole officer would call him during PO's normal working hours, and say, "Mr. Nakaoula, can you come in this afternoon, or tomorrow? We need to talk about some things."
Heck, I know somebody who was out, not on parole but on bail, waiting charges on a DUI (not his first.) One of the conditions of being out on bail was not drinking. So this fellow goes in on a Wednesday afternoon for his first meeting with his PO (same office does parole and bail release, don't know if that's true in every state.) During the meeting it comes out that the guy has been drinking while out on bail. "I'm sorry, Mr. XYZ, that's a violation of the terms of your bail, so we're going to have to cancel it. Can you come back Friday afternoon so we can process you back into jail?"
I sh*t you not.
Exiled, I still am not sure what you think is being covered up, except for incompetence at high levels, someone who made the decisions to not send forces ( was it a realistic expectation that forces could get there on time and was the action already over by the time they wouldve actually gotten there) and the lack of security. I have no problem whatsoever with anyone getting to the bottom of it. I'm just not sure there is any there, there.
Inga, I am not the one who makes multiple sock puppets, brays about "not caring about it" when her personal info is subsequently revealed and then later the someday starts caterwauling about her personal info being spread everywhere. You are deranged. You have multiple personal disorder or are manic depressive or bipolar. Something is clearly very wrong with you between the ears. So, while you are irritating, the irritation is tinged with sadness and pity.
Through all your shitting on conservatives here, there is one thing you clearly know: despite what a nasty person you are, you know that no one here would ever do any harm to you because, if the conservatives here were really as awful as you pretend they are, the moment your personal info was revealed, you would have left and never come back.
As such, your persistence in remaining here and being, well, you is your testament and tribute to the fundamental decency of the conservative people here you daily treat like shit. So, thank you for acknowledging my fundamental decency and every time I see you laying down your thick veneer of garbage, I will remember that you are really saying, "Thank you all you wonderful people for tolerating my inane and insane ravings."
Good night, Inga.
Nite Exiled.
FUCK YOU Matt.
Could someone tell me why Nakoula "deserved" a year in jail for a violation of one of his terms of probation?
Especially, unless I read wrong, this was his first VOP and did not involve any activity that was independently criminal.
In any normal circumstance, his probation would have been Revoked; Reinstated with warnings to adhere to his terms plus time served.
He plead to one year to avoid a TWO year jail time??
Like, W.T.F.?
Inga said...
FUCK YOU Matt.
5/9/13, 11:44 PM
Thank you for those kind words, Inga. I hope posting them helps you feel better.
"That's one of those things that's supposed to shut me up, right?"
Like that would ever work. You clearly don't know when to shut up, and wouldn't dare let any one make you. You're a big girl now, and you can do what you want. You're really making good use of the time here.
Yes, from what I see worthless pretty much covers it.
Matt, you remind me of a washerwoman gossip, crybaby attention seeking Inga on steroids, lol!
Nakoula is a hero. I'll quote myself:
This Nakoula guy is the only good guy I can find in this whole mess. He had the guts to ridicule the Jihadis. So, his film was clunky. Do you know of any studio that has the courage to fund a film at the level necessary to make the case against the Jihadis?
Nobody else has the guts to do it. This lonely, artistically challenged little guy is, so far, the only one. He had no money, no studio backing... nothing... and yet, he risked suffering the fate of Theo van Gogh.
God bless this Nakoula guy!
Inga said...
Matt, you remind me of a washerwoman gossip, crybaby attention seeking Inga on steroids, lol!
5/9/13, 11:47 PM
Thank you, Inga, for your kind words. I hope they help you feel better.
(Oh, if only everyone were to start replying to Inga in this way! Imagine how the comments would look to a new visitor to the site.)
I think the customary closing remark is "Never address me again"!
Nakoula is suffering in jail for all of us.
He's got the guts to face off with the Jihadis. So, he's not a great film maker. The great film makers are all too fucking cowardly to go up against the Jihadis.
We need more Nakoulas, as many as we can find.
Inga is an idiot.
She is too stupid to understand the U.S. democratic system or the Bill of Rights.
She's just a damned fool.
And Matt for someone who doesn't even know what the term " brittle" means, you have no authority or the required psychological training to make a diagnosis on me. Heal thyself first, and then shut the fuck up, you crybaby.
Inga said...
And Matt for someone who doesn't even know what the term " brittle" means, you have no authority or the required psychological training to make a diagnosis on me. Heal thyself fitst, and then shut the fuck up, you crybaby.
5/9/13, 11:52 PM
Thank you, Inga, for your kind tidings. I hope they help you feel better.
bagoh, does that work?
"..., you are worse than I for derailing a thread."
That's just crazy talk.
Inga, why don't you restrict your comments to the topic of this thread or shut up?
Althouse repeatedly deleted Ritmo's comments last night for resorting to this tactic.
Do you have anything relevant to this topic to say?
Shouting Thomas is an old dope, who wants to bring back the Patriarchy, lmao!
Do you have anything relevant to this topic to say, you stupid bitch?
Shouting Thomas, perhaps you should voice your concerns to Matt here, hmmm? If he and the nut ball PMJ wouldn't have addressed me I wouldn't need to respond, now would I? That's not difficult to understand right ST?
I'm done here, too many nuts to have a decent conversation, ugh, what is becoming of the Althouse comments section?
Darlene, way up thread Cedarford posted some stuff about why he was supposedly arrested that included all kinds of nefarious badness. I don't know how much it is true or just more cover fabricated by people doing their part for the administration.
Inga, your another asshole, like Ritmo, who immediately launches stupid venomous attacks and then whines that people are hurting your feelings.
Which just makes you an asshole.
With regards to Nakoula, Benghazi, heck, any of the Obama Teams cluster-oopsies, I understand why they are doing what they are doing, loathsome though it may be. The people I really take issue with is the press corps. (I mean, "corpse" in Obama-speak. Though it does fit in this context...) All of this stuff and they just keep covering for him. Not just the big stuff like Benghazi but even going back to small things like Joe Biden's racist comments. They continually and consistently get a pass.
The Obama team is earnestly trying to "make America better". (Bear with me! I mean that I believe that he thinks destroying what makes America great will make it better.) The problem is that we don't have the same curious and aggressive press we had when Bush was in office. The press is the bigger problem here.
There are probably different jurisdictional procedures but...
Doesn't a parole violator still have to be arraigned on a parole violation charge?
Was an arraignment held and, if so, is there a transcript available?
To do otherwise would place an awful lot of power in the hands of parole/police personnel. They could jail anybody on parole for a long time. Wouldn't this excessive power provide opportunity for corruption/
Last time you said you were leaving a thread you stayed till four in the morning. You're in love with us nuts aren't you. You like us around late in the night calling you a bad girl, don't you?
But you dear ST are KING of the Assholes!
Yeah Baggy, I do. But only you.
Night.
LOL, bagoh. I think you are on to something. Why would she stick around? She clearly is not afraid of anyone here and thinks we are as awful as she pretends.
You know, do you remember in 3rd grade when the boys and girls would tease and torment each other because they secretly liked each other? I think we have some of that here. Inga likes us! And, in her increasingly diminished mental state, she is regressing to her childhood, thus, she can only express it with her nastiness. It also explains the desire to play with sock puppets!
"The press is the bigger problem here."
Without doubt, but it seems like that will not change soon, because if they have not been shamed by what has happened so far, they cannot be shamed into responsible journalism. They will not change. The thing is, alternative media and Fox are pretty widely heard, and there are still a lot people who want to be lied too. It's just more comfortable for them. The real problem is voters who are not discerning, and often, it's on purpose. The nation has been infantilized and feminized into a state of majority irresponsibility, so that's what's winning.
I knew a girl in second grade who let you look up her skirt for a quarter. I wonder if I can find her on Facebook. What's a 1963 quarter worth today?
$1.93
She's 54
yea, that should still work.
Wow, some of your comments make me laugh really hard.
President-Mom-Jeans said...
The despicable cunt hasn't posted since then under the Inga handle, but has done posted under a dozen or so other handles, as found out by Palladian and some other people yesterday.
But apparently her love of authoritarian lefties jailing people for their speech just brought the sloppy bitch out of hiding. Or maybe she hit the bottle again, who knows.
Just remember, she did it for the lulz and to show her kids how she's the cool mom.
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phx said...
You guys still trying to make a hero out of this douchebag?
Sorry that I'm late to this discussion. I've been on jury duty for the last two days.
Because we had reasonable doubt, we had to render a verdict of not guilty. We believed that this guy did most of what the police said he did, and the man had a lenthy criminal past, but there were some discrepancies, and eventually we felt that the burden of proof wasn't sufficient to render a guilty verdict.
Let me explain something to you phx, our founding fathers wrote our first laws such that it would be better to let one guilty person go, than to imprison one innocent person.
It's hard to say if you understand this concept. Perhaps you're doing what you often do and show up to just argue and ridicule others who comment on this blog. Irregardless, you don't fucking get it.
Let me explain something to you phx, our founding fathers wrote our first laws such that it would be better to let one guilty person go, than to imprison one innocent person.
I have no problem what-so-fucking ever if they let this guy go. I also have no problem if he gets tied to the Republican Party either. I expect you guys to insist he does.
Like that would ever work. You clearly don't know when to shut up,
I'm supposed to shut up when you tell me to shut up, eh rightie? I been here long enough to know how you "think".
phx said...
I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
Of course you don't.
That would require intellectual honesty.
The summation of your comments here are: "Go Team Democrat"!!!
phx said...
I don't have enough information to offer 'objective assessments' of contemporary international and national politics.
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Yes, because knowing about "contemporary international and national politics" is like totally required to understand that Hillary Clinton reduced security at the Consulate in Libya and Susan Rice took to the television to lie about the nature of the attack.
You're fucking pathetic.
Perhaps you're doing what you often do and show up to just argue and ridicule others who comment on this blog.
It's okay for you to be here to ridicule lefties, we're not supposed to spoil that for you, eh? TS.
phx said...
I don't have an opinion on Susan Rice's testimony.
As I've said, ignorance is a virtue for you idiots.
You have no interest, none at all, in facts that would contradict your worldview. So you won't watch Susan Rice's testimony, you would read about it, and you'll pretend this is all some big complicated mess that will be unraveled by an "investigation" you won't pay attention to.
That's nice.
Anyway,
ABC News has obtained 12 different versions of the talking points that show they were extensively edited as they evolved from the drafts first written entirely by the CIA to the final version distributed to Congress and to U.S. Ambassador to the U.N. Susan Rice before she appeared on five talk shows the Sunday after that attack.
White House emails reviewed by ABC News suggest the edits were made with extensive input from the State Department. The edits included requests from the State Department that references to the Al Qaeda-affiliated group Ansar al-Sharia be deleted as well references to CIA warnings about terrorist threats in Benghazi in the months preceding the attack.
That would appear to directly contradict what White House Press Secretary Jay Carney said about the talking points in November.
You're nothing more than a pathetic hack who comes here to say pathetic hack things.
So Democrats -
Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
Please answer.
I thought you leftists cared about civil liberties?
Nope. When your precious political betters tell you to believe a lie, you swallow it whole and say thank you.
@bagoh20
"Anyone who has a basic college education should be able to analyze events sufficiently well to have an informed opinion."
Well, that leaves me out.
No, not at all. You don't have to go to college to get a basic college education. The College of Hard Knocks works just as well.
Or to put it more formal terms, a modern college education is neither sufficient nor necessary in itself. If you work to get educated at college, than that is one way to get the critical thinking skills necessary to form useful opinions. If you just allow yourself to be brainwashed with liberal tropes, maybe not. Or if you are a good observer of human behavior, as you seem to be, you can skip college as a waste of your time.
Running a successful business means you have the credentials to be listened to on nearly any topic, in my opinion.
@bagoh2o
I think the customary closing remark is "Never address me again"!
After patiently and politely explaining my views to Inga, I got a "Go to Hell, Nathan" once.
I treasure that personalized send-off.
So Democrats -
Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
Please answer.
phx said...
It's okay for you to be here to ridicule lefties, we're not supposed to spoil that for you, eh? TS.
Those on the right aren't here specifically to ridicule lefties. This is one of the few moderate blogs that aren't openly hostile to conservatives. They're here to engage those moderate views.
On the other hand the leftists are here with the clearly discernable and often openly expressed purpose of disrupting that engagement.
So the fantasy that both are somehow equally guilty can only be maintained by limiting the evaluation to one small piece of the environment.
Yeah Marshal you don't ridicule your political opponents here at all.
Hey, hypocrite.
phx said...
Yeah Marshal you don't ridicule your political opponents here at all.
Calling me a hypocrite is your method of calling attention away from the differing reasons why each of us comments here. The distraction tactic is a tacit admission I'm correct.
And I don't ridicule political opponents generally. I ridicule people who are only here to disrupt. People who don't offer goodwill deserve none in return.
There is also a huge difference between ridiculing a person, and ridiculing specific views.
The politics is not personal unless you make it so.
So Democrats -
Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
Please answer.
bagoh20
Cedarford is wrong. The only criminal violation was Nakoula had obtained a California driver's license under a false name. The other violations had to do with lying to his PO and holding himself out to others with aliases.
ALL of this is time served stuff. Except the Fed need him tucked away so they make noises he put all the people in the film in danger because they insulted Mohammed (PissBeUponHim) and because Islamists will murder over cartoons and insults, Nakoula must do jail time.
And I don't ridicule political opponents generally. I ridicule people who are only here to disrupt.
I ridicule people who ridicule others - of which you are often one.
@phx,
I ridicule people who ridicule others - of which you are often one.
So now ridiculing is okay? I thought you said it wasn't.
What possibly could be different from what you said before?
Oh, it is okay when you are doing the ridiculing?
...and you have the temerity to call other people hypocrites? You have demonstrated hypocrisy on at least 3 different topics in this discussion thread alone.
phx said...
I ridicule people who ridicule others - of which you are often one.
This isn't about who ridicules who, it's about purposes in commenting. Yours is only to disrupt other people from engaging, as you have again tacitly admitted by distracting the discussion to some other topic.
I have always been a bit blase about this, and maybe I shouldn't have been. Seen too many cop shows where they violate parolees to put pressure on them on a routine basis. That sort of thing. So, not surprised that the feds would use this on the guy, who should have known to keep his nose clean.
But, there seems to be evidence (above) that the sort of things that he was on parole for wouldn't have warranted this sort of time. Coming more and more to believe that he was (IHMO inadvertently) a hero.
The more that the militant Muslims react violently to this sort of thing (the video this time), I think the more that it is going to happen in this country. The left is going to continue to act defensively and protectively when it comes to Allah, but I think that this sort of pandering is wearing on a lot of Americans, and would not be surprised if their resistance to doing something about it is eroding. Our faiths are routinely attacked by the left, whether by art (Piss Christ), protest (bottomless woman in nun's habit), etc., but somehow Islam and their Prophet are off limits. Sorry. Ain't gonna work. If the entire left is going to melt down any time that their Prophet is ridiculed, etc., then it is going to happen, more and more.
Inga said...
No I've mocked people who think Nakola os some sort of hero, that is all.
Inga lies again. go to the tape. she was screaming for him to be jailed. said the video caused her daughter to be in danger and caused the ambassador's death. she was identified as someone with a foreigners view of the 1st Amendment i.e. everyone should be free to say whatever the government allows them to. that's also when she started using her Girls From Brazil birth name.
This isn't about who ridicules who, it's about purposes in commenting. Yours is only to disrupt other people from engaging, as you have again tacitly admitted by distracting the discussion to some other topic.
What a bullshitter you are.
Inga, you must be thinking of Savannah GA. That's the place with beautiful squares. Most our squares are fat slobs.
phx said...
What a bullshitter you are.
So says the eristocrat.
April Apple wrote: "So Democrats -
Why did the Obama administration and Hillary! in particular blame the Benghazi attack on a youtube video and a spontaneous flash mob that never happened?
Please answer."
Ain't gonna happen, April.
But there is this: According to the National Journal, the Administration lied because they knew if the truth were told Republicans in Congress would have been unreasonable and confrontive - or some such adjectives.
So, you see, it was, after all, the Republicans' fault.
(Actually, phx, Igna, garage, or any of the Obamatrolls might have said this if they were as "astute" as the journalists from the NJ.) LOL!
Wow, some of the comments here really have no basis in reality.
Rush mentioned that while the Cleveland monster got a bail set, Nikola gets no bail.
Nakoula was out on parole and violated his probation. Probation violators were already "out on bail" before they violated the terms of their release. That's what this clown did.
His conviction was for fraud and using stolen identities, which Nakoula/Bacile repeated with this movie. He wasn't allowed to use computers without his probation officer giving permission. This last claws is very common with modern crimes making it very hard for parolees to make a living. But Bacile/Nakoula wasn't making a living, he was defrauding people yet again.
Nakoula/Bacile owes about $700,000 in restitution, which he wasn't paying. Raising money for this movie should have gone to pay back the previous victims of his crimes.
This guy is another two-bit Bernie Maddoff and meth manufacturer, but for some reason, folks want to make a hero/martyr out of the guy. Maybe folks have been watching too much Breaking Bad.
I play Eve Online. The staffer that was killed in Benghazi - whether you know him as Sean Smith or Vile Rat - was "one of ours".
http://kotaku.com/the-extraordinary-mischievous-too-short-life-of-sean-481060252
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