Enero 25, 2013

"Stop being the stupid party."

Says Bobby Jindal.
"It’s time for a new Republican Party that talks like adults.... We had a number of Republicans damage the brand this year with offensive and bizarre comments. I’m here to say we’ve had enough of that."
He's absolutely right. And it's not enough merely to avoid stupidity — "legitimate rape" type stuff. They need to become the smart party, as well-grounded as possible in science and economics. The Democrats aren't that smart, but somehow they're able to pull off the appearance of being smart. Outsmart them. The other side will always try to portray anything the GOP stands for as stupid and not just stupid, but mean-spirited, sexist, and racist. If the party were firmly and reliably backed up with science and economics, Republicans could defend themselves (and they would be worth supporting).

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edutcher ayon kay ...

Pogo, remember She-Wolf of the SS is the one who couldn't in good conscience stand against what was done at Auschwitz, so her convenient amnesia is understandable.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Michael, no such thing.

Socialism doesn't fit your description either.

KCFleming ayon kay ...

Inga denies what's in front of her own nose.
It's Obama, the fascist.

chickelit ayon kay ...

1968 - 2008 was the conservative heyday. Now it's time for them to fade away.

Punctuated with 76-80 and 1992-2000.

You owe us 12 years in the 40 year cycle.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

It appears that Pogo is attempting to engage in the deep, empiric reasoning called for by Jindal. But all that erupts from his lips are:

"Fascist!"

Good job there, little boy.

Do you roll over and perform tricks, also?

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Edutcher you keep repeating that canard, did you pull that out of your nether region?

Michael ayon kay ...

Inga. So the authoritarian and nationalistic country of Cuba is right wing? Nicaragua?

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

The supposed referees have been playing for one of the teams for so long, that many people now think that's the way the game should be played.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

fas·cism noun \ˈfa-ˌshi-zəm also ˈfa-ˌsi-\
Definition of FASCISM

1
often capitalized : a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Communist last I heard.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Punctuated with 76-80 and 1992-2000.

You owe us 12 years in the 40 year cycle.


That's a part of it, astute grasshopper. But not now.

Remember, after the left wing took over the state and economy crashed by Republicans in 1929, they still gave eight years to Eisenhower and four to Hoover.

So steel your fears against the uninterrupted monomaniacal government preached by Pogo the Great.

He really is a sky is falling type. But the sky can only fall so many times.

Michael ayon kay ...

Inga. Right wing communists?

chickelit ayon kay ...

Because they want such ridiculous things. How is this about us? Significant majorities in America agree?

What about them?


So you're saying that you and Inga represent a majority of Americans.

Could we get someone to besides somefeller, phx, and harrogate to second that?

I mean someone unpredictable.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition...

FOX News... Fossil fuel and dirty energy industries... The "moral" majority...

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...


n.
1. often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
b. A political philosophy or movement based on or advocating such a system of government.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.
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See I can cut and paste too!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

So you're saying that you and Inga represent a majority of Americans.

And so would have Karl Rove and Dick Morris, had they had a grasp on, you know, math.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

You seemed to be in need of a little research help, Inga. Did you notice that the words 'right wing' do not appear in that definition?

Michael ayon kay ...

Chikelit. I will second the sad fact that O Ritmo Secundo and Inga represent the majority of Americans. As is evident in countless dreadful but reversable ways.

Michael ayon kay ...

Inga. I havent cut and pasted anything but that which you just cut and pasted is missing the "right wing" you attributed to fascism in your own definition.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Erika, if the shoe fits.

My first definition is a Google definition. Look it up for yourself.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

I will second the sad fact that O Ritmo Secundo and Inga represent the majority of Americans. As is evident in countless dreadful but reversable ways.

Oh noes, Michael! Is the sky falling in your world, too?

It always does, don't it? But as fellow blow-hard narcissist gazillionaire douchebag Donald Trump will tell you, it always gets better - the next day. Always. The sky falls and then you wake up from your narcissistic stupor - ready to enjoy the day and dread how the "unimportant" people outdid you yet again. And usually after you've written a letter to the editor (or to your Twitter feed) reminding everyone of your self-important greatness.

chickelit ayon kay ...

@Michael: The motion passes. Inga and Ritmo are typical Americans.

Now what?

Michael ayon kay ...

Inga. So you had to look it up the first time.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

I knew you were playing games dear Michael, so yes I used Google, LMAO, silly man.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Google is your friend.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Michael:

Why are you harassing Inga?

Don't you have an unpaid intern to abuse and feel more important than?

Are times really that tough in Twitter Town?

Gazillionaires Gone Wild!

I can't wait until Michael goes all out and does the Full Kozlowski on us.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Heh heh, girl, I like how you move the goalpost from "accepted dictionary" to "the definition in my mind." Nice move, there!

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Now what?

I dunno. Wait for the sky to fall again the next day?

Don't worry. The sky will fall tomorrow and the day after that, too.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Interesting that none of the first six or seven definitions that pop up when I punch 'fascism' into Google says word one about left or right wing.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Erika, are you a member of the stupid party too? I said it was a GOOGLE definition.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Yours is an incorrect definition. No big deal; just learn the correct one and move on.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Erika, liar.

here

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Gazillionaires Gone Wild would be a great name for a reality TV show.

It would be like Bosses Undercover but a little more risque, naughty, and exploitively excessive.

There would be Togas, just like at Tyco.

I ain't flipping the channel til Mike the Millionaire comes out in his toga, getting bamboozled like Berlusconi did at his bonga-bonga parties.

I would still vote Michael off the island or fire him from the boardroom for not partying hard enough, but I'd let him sweat it out for a few rounds first. You've got to give the little focker some hope!

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Gawd, the sheer STUPIDITY and arrogance.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Not what my Google says. Did you know that different people see different Google results? I learned that listening to a TED talk. Anyway, if I wanted to go to the trouble, I could take a screenshot of my results looking it up, which as I mentioned show results from a number of reliable sources, none of which mention "right wing" anything.

All of which is beside the point that you are still working with an incorrect definition.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Then dear Erika you made yourself look quite stupid, didn't you?

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

Michael,

"Give an example of this 'stashing' you allude to. "

Dude, are you really this naive? The rich have bigger mattresses than you or I do; much, much bigger ones.

Kirk Parker ayon kay ...

But only somefeller is stupid enough not to understand that 19-century British "conservatives" are a completely different species from 21st-century American "conservatives".

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Translate fascism | into French | into German | into Italian | into Spanish
Definition of fascism
noun
[mass noun]
an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.
(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practices:
this is yet another example of health fascism in action
The term Fascism was first used of the totalitarian right-wing nationalist regime of Mussolini in Italy (1922–43); the regimes of the Nazis in Germany and Franco in Spain were also Fascist. Fascism tends to include a belief in the supremacy of one national or ethnic group, a contempt for democracy, an insistence on obedience to a powerful leader, and a strong demagogic approach
Derivatives

fascistic

Pronunciation: /-ˈʃɪstɪk/

adjective
Origin:

from Italian fascismo, from fascio 'bundle, political group', from Latin fascis (see fasces)

Spelling help

Spell fascism and the related word fascist with a c after the s.

fascism in other Oxford dictionaries

Definition of fascism in the dictionary US English

chickelit ayon kay ...

@Erika: Google is a weird search engine. If you google Santorum you get lots of nasty stuff promulgated by Sullivanists and his doorknob-licking buddy, Dan Savage.

If you google sullivanist you get to a steakhouse webpage; if you enclose "sullivanist" with quotes, you get all the hits and links you'd expect going back years.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Inga. Your definition is wrong. Sometimes there is bad information on the internet; perhaps you've heard?

Sigh, fine:

dictionary.com: a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.

wikipedia: a form of radical authoritarian nationalism.[1][2] Fascists seek to unify their nation through a totalitarian state that seeks the mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training...Fascists have commonly opposed having a firm association with any section of the left-right spectrum, considering it inadequate to describe their beliefs...Fascism opposes multiple ideologies, such as communism, conservatism, liberalism, and social democracy

mirriam-webster.com: a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition

My husband, who has two masters' degrees in this area: "fascism cannot be pinned to the left or right spectrum"

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Origin:

from Italian fascismo, from fascio 'bundle, political group',


Hmmm.... I wonder which political affiliation is obsessed with a sense of order and sees society as an ideally highly organized unit at each level? Hmmmm....

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Erika, your husband is not my authority.

somefeller ayon kay ...

But only somefeller is stupid enough not to understand that 19-century British "conservatives" are a completely different species from 21st-century American "conservatives".

I'm quite aware of who Mill was referring to at the time. But the basic concept is valid now and in our country, in terms of the type of person being discussed. Though that wouldn't be the case for 21st Century Tories in the UK, however. They are supportive of gay marriage, for example, and are a generally sophisticated lot, at least at the Cameron/Johnson leadership level. Thanks for playing, though.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

I think you should admit that you don't know as much about political philosophy as you could. There's no shame in it, really! No big deal! We're all learning here!

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Erika, go bake some cookies.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

I find your stubbornness charming, really I do.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

...mass mobilization of the national community through discipline, indoctrination, and physical training...

"FOX Nation"... excessive assumptions regarding personal responsibility... hates science and even scientific political polling... P90X aficionados...

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

You are a hypocritical little wench who though she was gonna do a gotcha! When you engage in such behavior, it tends to backfire on you, live and learn Erika.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Yes, you really showed me up Inga, you wiped the floor with your superior knowledge. And your humility!

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

I find you far less than charming Erika.

Revenant ayon kay ...

(munches popcorn)

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

You might want to take Althouse a little less seriously, then.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Gettin' good yet Rev? Maybe Erika and I should mud wrestle.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Now Erika and I will step back into our feminine roles and let the men carry on, as before our little dust up:)

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Revenant's job is to make life as much of a spectator sport as possible, dincha know?

Even in politics. He votes straight-ticket Republican, even tho they don't represent his views, so that he can then complain about their performance (even preferring Democrats "divide" the gov't to block them) and say, Shaggy-style, "Wasn't me."

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

As I said the other night, goofy Libertarians.

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

My feminine role is to think : )

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

But only what your hubby tells you to, huh?

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Goodnight Ritmo.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Goodnight Rev and Pogo.And Somfeller. Goodnight moon.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Night night.

Just imagine casting Michael with toga in Gazillionaires Gone Wild.

It's enough to keep you from thinking the sky is falling, by Jove!

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Ye Gads!

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

Your imagination is so vivid, Inga!

I Have Misplaced My Pants ayon kay ...

and goodnight to the old lady whispering hush

Revenant ayon kay ...

Revenant's job is to make life as much of a spectator sport as possible, dincha know?

I don't want to admit how I got the job... but you know those "earn $9573 a week sitting at your computer" spam emails?

I've probably said too much.

He votes straight-ticket Republican

Only the one election! And I was young and I needed the money!

chickelit ayon kay ...

The US had a fasces on the back of its dime from 1916 to 1946: link This time period overlapped with Mussolini, Hitler, and our own benevolent dictator. The year after FDR passed, the design was changed and the fasces was replaced with a torch. Open your pocketbooks and have a look.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Not only with FDR, but with every high-ranking Roman official, including the awesomely benevolent dictator (temporary Roman office formed at times of extreme urgency such as invasion) Cincinnatus, the very inspiration for George Washington and namesake of the city of Cincinnati. Who, after saving Rome not once but twice, willingly retired the office of all that power to return home to his farm, where he plowed his fields and, uh, maybe had sex with his slaves.

chickelit ayon kay ...

Palin reminds me of Cincinnatus.

YAMMV

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

She plows fields, gets elected to national office during an invasion, and fucks slaves?

Yes, I suppose my mileage must vary.

Strange comparison, to say the least.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Remember the Iraqi Information Minister? Something reminded me of him.

virgil xenophon ayon kay ...

If Inga's lack of knowledge about medicine is as great as is her knowledge deficit about the history of Fascism I hope I never have to come under her tender mercies as an RN. (BTW, BSN or diploma-school grad? Or are you an LPN?)

FYI, Inga, El Duce was a card-carrying Socialist (i.e., by definition a leftist) who, prior to becoming the leader of the Fascist Party was an editorialist for Italy's leading socialist newspaper (then and now) La Stampa. Nazisim was a variant, of socialist fascism. The acronym "NAZI" stood for the "National Socialist German Worker's Party." Perhaps you should enroll in night school and get some "larnin,' " Inga. Either that or go to the Library more often--they have these things called books and encyclopedias there--even some for adults..

Revenant ayon kay ...

"The fascists weren't the ONLY dictators to use that symbol" is an interesting approach to take.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Go read the Oxford Dictionary.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

"The fascists weren't the ONLY dictators to use that symbol" is an interesting approach to take.

It's one George Washington would have plainly understood.

What's wrong with you? You claim to know history and then prove that you can't understand how much one heavily fraught period of time changes the meaning of some of its most notable concepts.

If the most famous and lauded wielder of the fasces was good enough inspiration for Washington, then a decoration of FDR with merely the object sounds hardly nefarious.

It was Mussolini who appropriated the worst elements of ancient Roman politics and warped them into something entirely different.

But feel free to disregard an entire period of history due to how it was misused by one man.

Someone not ignorant of history would know better. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that you don't.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

I apologize Freeman.


virgil, you spout more right wing bullshit and I'm supposed to just take your word for it right?

Arrogant bastard.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Freeman, you spout more right wing bullshit and I'm supposed to just take your word for it right?

Arrogant bitch.


???

You are one odd duck, Inga.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

I apologize Freeman.

Okay.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

And it wasn't just FDR. 1916 was way before his time. Here's the wiki link Chickie probably looked at which associates its use in the U.S. to many other institutions and individuals - including the Great Emancipator Lincoln - who was also called a dictator in his time by disgruntled reactionaries. Go figure. Some things never change.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

Oh! It's at the podium of the U.S. House of Representatives. Tea Party Fascists!!!

Think before you jump off the brink.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Freeman I read Virgil's rant and saw your comment right above and wrongfully attributed it to you. Oy, I do apologize.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Why is everyone so mad? (Not everyone, I guess, but a lot of ones.)

Everybody, calm down. Have a mug of warm milk with sugar and vanilla in it. It's Friday night. Relax.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Inga, I see what happened. Apology accepted. It's okay.

Bleach Drinkers Curing Coronavirus Together ayon kay ...

I'm relaxed.

I just like my history unaltered. I find the realism and paradox combination relaxing.

It's what life is and was. Unspoiled.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Rev nailed it at the beginning of the thread.

With all due respect, Democrats come across as smart and Republicans come across as dumb because the people doing the reporting like Democrats a lot more than Republicans.

Neither party's politicians come across as particularly smart or stupid, on average, if you listen to what they actually say instead of soundbites.


That's exactly right. It's not possible to purge the GOP of every person who may say something ridiculous. Neither party could do that.

So I don't know what you do.

I go for the warm milk, myself.

Freeman Hunt ayon kay ...

Inga, I'm not one for parties. Too many meetings.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

But they serve chocolate chip cookies.

Goodnight for real now. Virgil don't make me mad again.

chickelit ayon kay ...

This has been an epic thread all around.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Pride cometh before the fall......

Nite.

chickelit ayon kay ...

Inga said...
Pride cometh before the fall....

Goeth forth and sin no more.

Nite, Inga

furious_a ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Sofa King ayon kay ...

Ugh, I can't believe I read this whole thread. I need an Alka-Seltzer.

jr565 ayon kay ...

Inga you really have to get past the google searches for fascism. Il Duce was a socialist provocateur and newspaper agitprop writer; That he turned from socialism to fascism doesn't mean he turned from left to right. No, there was a schism on the left and leftists branched out to other variances of socialism.

There was a schism in communist Russia between Stalin and Trotsky. Were either of them right wingers?

Il Duce was a lefty through and through both during his socialist days and his later fascist days. Fascism, as evidenced by American fascists was similarly LEFT wing and not right wing.

He would write this:
"Fascism has taken up an attitude of complete opposition to the doctrines of Liberalism, both in the political field and in the field of economics".

But the liberalism he is referring to is not the liberalism of today. See, liberalism itself has morphed into a form of socialism today. But he was referring to a form of neo liberalism which would be in keeping with individualism.

Mussolini in his youth was an ARDENT socialist. He was called Il Duce when he was the leader of the Italian socialist party. He broke with socialism not because he disagreed with socialism but because the socialists were neutral in the first World War and he saw a way for Italy to get their hands on Austrian territory at the end of the war. It was a power grab pure and simple. But it didn't make him right wing.

Not to go into the whole history of Il Duce, but he was a leftist through his whole life. (As was Hitler and the nazis) That he may have fought other lefitsts does not make him a righty. There is countless examples of intercine warfare amongst the various lefty factions. But even though they don't get a long it doesn't change their ideological bent.



jr565 ayon kay ...

THe fact that Fascists were nationalists does not make them rightists. Communist itself split over the issue of nationalism into Leninists and Trotskyites. The Trotskyites were the internationalists and the Leninists were the nationalists. In fact Lenin himself described himself as "right wing" but that was only in the context of communism, which is left wing.
Do you understand? Would you argue that either Lenin or Trotsky were somehow right wingers? That is ludicrious. Nationalism has been part of communism and its various splinter groups since the fouding of communism. Hence, you can't argue that nationalism equals "RIGHT WING".
Fascists are left wing. Get it thorugh your thick skulls.
When Hitler invaded Russia Stalkin appealed to nationalism to rally Russia. He called it the Second Patriotic War (the first being the Tsarist defense against Napoleon). He reopened the churches (and note, he reformed the army along traditional ranks of the Russian Imperial Army.
He may have started as an international socialist, but pivoted to national socialism when it was convenient for him to rally Russia.
Again, natioanlism does not mean right wing. Understand?
Il Duce, and hItler and Stalin all left wingers.

jr565 ayon kay ...

Economically Il Duce was for "capitalism" under tight state control. Again, far left. Run from the top down. Capitalism was run by the National Council of Corporations which brought an end to class warfare.
The national council of corporations regulated wages, work hours , and work conditions.

"A Charter of Labour in 1927 introduced an annual paid vacation, a range of social services, free vocational education, and higher rates of pay for night workers. High national tariffs reduced the impact of foreign competition and there were massive public building projects designed to reduce the unemployed."
Sounds a lot like FDR right? Again, Mussolini and the fascists were not righties. They were only right insofar as they were to the right of say, Stalin.

On what grounds, Inga, are you suggesting that Il Duce is somehow a right winger?

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

Militant nationalism, proclaiming the racial and cultural superiority of the dominant ethnic group and asserting that group's inherent right to a special dominant position over other peoples in both the domestic and the international order

The adulation of a single charismatic national leader said to possess near superhuman abilities and to be the truest representation of the ideals of the national culture, whose will should therefore literally be law

Emphasis on the absolute necessity of complete national unity, which is said to require a very powerful and disciplined state organization (especially an extensive secret police and censorship apparatus), unlimited by constitutional restrictions or legal requirements and under the absolute domination of the leader and his political movement or party

Militant anti-Communism coupled with the belief in an extreme and imminent threat to national security from powerful and determined Communist forces both inside and outside the country

Contempt for democratic socialism, democratic capitalism, liberalism, and all forms of individualism as weak, degenerate, divisive and ineffective ideologies leading only to mediocrity or national suicide

Glorification of physical strength, fanatical personal loyalty to the leader, and general combat-readiness as the ultimate personal virtues

A sophisticated apparatus for systematically propagandizing the population into accepting these values and ideas through skilled manipulation of the mass media, which are totally monopolized by the regime once the movement comes to power

A propensity toward pursuing a militaristic and aggressive foreign policy

Strict regulation and control of the economy by the regime through some form of corporatist economic planning in which the legal forms of private ownership of industry are nominally preserved but in which both workers and capitalists are obliged to submit their plans and objectives to the most detailed state regulation and extensive wage and price controls, which are designed to insure the priority of the political leadership's objectives over the private economic interests of the citizenry. Therefore under fascism most of the more important markets are allowed to operate only in a non-competitive, cartelized, and governmentally "rigged" fashion.

http://www.auburn.edu/~johnspm/gloss/fascism

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

The Scholarly Flaws of Liberal Fascism

Well thanks to Erika and Virgil I couldn't get to sleep, but it's all good, because I found some good information on Fascism and what it really is and isn't.

Had my warm milk and vanilla, off to bed.

Dante ayon kay ...

Oops. But the point I was making is that Leftists have make vastly more idiotic statements, but they are supported. It's somehow "OK." I don't get it.

joe ayon kay ...

Ah, bonga bonga Inga,

Claiming a family history of Eastern/Aleman ancestry, and lacking basic knowledge of fascism and National Socialism is just plain sad.

But, natural born racist always recognize other racist, such as Moochelle "cutting those eyes" at that loutish Aleman surnamed BoehnER. And old bonga bonga Inga cheered on her evil looks at the Aleman, right Inga?


P.s.

As for your good Aleman, such as Einstein, he still fits the Aleman lout in matters of food and sex, such as using his cousin to meet his Alemanic basic cultural needs.

You try and try bonga bonga Inga, and being morally confused and unable to assess/access truth, you sense morality as a animal in the night figets at smells and movement. Which is why you argue/disagree with Reichsführer Shouting Mouth Tommy; you still have a molecule of morality sparkling about in your Alemanic limbic meat.


Mick ayon kay ...

Jindal is a fraud. If he were a true statesman he would proclaim that he would never be President or VP because he is not eligible. He was born to Indian resident aliens, and therefore is not a natural born Citizen.

US Law:
"The Constitution does not in words say who shall be natural-born citizens. Resort must be had elsewhere to ascertain that. At common law, with the nomenclature of which the framers of the Constitution were familiar, it was never doubted that all children born in a country of parents who were its citizens became themselves, upon their birth, citizens also. These were natives or natural-born citizens, as distinguished from aliens or foreigners." Minor v. Happersett, 88 US 162, 167 (1874)

rhhardin ayon kay ...

The republicans have to pander to the same soap opera women that the media pander to, in order have a story with news legs.

Also the republicans have social conservatives, who are mostly nuts.

SGT Ted ayon kay ...

Sarah Palin/ Liz Warren

Compare.

Palin never pretended to be Cherokee to get a Affirmative Action tenure slot at a leftwing University.

Palin understands economics better than the Marxist Warren.

SGT Ted ayon kay ...

The adulation of a single charismatic national leader said to possess near superhuman abilities and to be the truest representation of the ideals of the national culture, whose will should therefore literally be law

Looks and sounds like Obamas M.O. in regards to his voting base and his approach to Governing.

SGT Ted ayon kay ...

Contempt for democratic socialism, democratic capitalism, liberalism, and all forms of individualism as weak, degenerate, divisive and ineffective ideologies leading only to mediocrity or national suicide

Modern American rightwingers are individualists. It is that individualism that Obama specifically criticises as "selfish" with his "you didn't build that alone". smear.

The ones exhibiting fascist style governing principles is the modern Democrat Party.

SGT Ted ayon kay ...

Strict regulation and control of the economy by the regime through some form of corporatist economic planning in which the legal forms of private ownership of industry are nominally preserved but in which both workers and capitalists are obliged to submit their plans and objectives to the most detailed state regulation and extensive wage and price controls, which are designed to insure the priority of the political leadership's objectives over the private economic interests of the citizenry. Therefore under fascism most of the more important markets are allowed to operate only in a non-competitive, cartelized, and governmentally "rigged" fashion.

Gee, which party has acted in this fashion over the past 30 years? The last 4 years?

Cody Jarrett ayon kay ...

Inga, sweetheart...why accuse Republicans of being mean to women? Why run crying to mommy, holding your ladyparts up as a shield? I thought everyone was equal?

Seriously--maybe it offends you that someone would respond to colossal stupidity where found, but I assure you--were you male you'd be getting the same treatment, your gender doesn't matter a whit.

BTW, the comedy, the sheer side splitting humor of it all, when it posts:

"Gawd, the sheer STUPIDITY and arrogance."


edutcher ayon kay ...

Inga said...

Edutcher you keep repeating that canard, did you pull that out of your nether region?

No, from your mouth.

Or keyboard.

Where it came in you before that, I can only guess.

KCFleming ayon kay ...

Inga and Ritmo are unteachable,, both being propagandists for their party. They're promulgating the same disinformation they learned in our high schools and colleges, however, so their idiocy is not surprising, just lamentable.

What's unforgivable is their having become true believers over time, and as such invincibly ignorant.

Rusty ayon kay ...

Inga said...
The Scholarly Flaws of Liberal Fascism

Well thanks to Erika and Virgil I couldn't get to sleep, but it's all good, because I found some good information on Fascism and what it really is and isn't.

Had my warm milk and vanilla, off to bed


I don't think the professor read Goldberg at all since his criticisms go along, in fact, with Goldberg's premise in his book and confirms it.
You and your friends ability to willfully suspend objective reason has always amazed me. Ideology before reason.
Or to put it in terms you'll understand.
You'll suck any cock, as long as it's democrat cock.

Brian Brown ayon kay ...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
Remember, we're talking about the party that hated transforming healthcare delivery by making insurance more widespread,


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The retard actually thinks ObamaCare makes health insurance more "widespread"

Why it is almost as if the silly dipshit doesn't read what is in the news or something.

Don't worry stupid shit, ignorance is a virtue for you.

Brian Brown ayon kay ...

O Ritmo Segundo said...
Remember, we're talking about the party that hated transforming healthcare delivery by making insurance more widespread


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Around one in 10 employers in the U.S. plans to drop health coverage for workers in the next few years as the bulk of the federal health-care law begins, and more indicated they may do so over time, according to a study to be released Tuesday by consulting company Deloitte.

Don't worry retard, this is making insurance more widespread to silly people like you.

a psychiatrist who learned from veterans ayon kay ...

The only problem is we are the stupid party. To have transcendence as part of life, at least for a faction of the party, requires some degree of conflict with the idea of evolution because that faction is inclined to a literal reading of the Bible. Also it may require a feminine modesty and circumspection in part for the purposes of avoiding rape. Now a part of the world view also emphasizes fiscal prudence and seeing yourself as the locus of control for your outcomes which may be practical important things but for a deficiency of which it is harder to cast the 'other party' as stupid.

ErnieG ayon kay ...

Using the Firefox find command, the string "O Ritmo Segundo said" occurs 70 times in this thread. Just sayin'.

President-Mom-Jeans ayon kay ...

Wow, a more than 300 post Inga/Ritmo abortion.

I do notice how many times that stupid cunt says she is leaving, then drools out some more weapons grade retardedness.

And calling another poster a wench, I will remember that next time you do your usual victimhood civility plea routine.

P. S. You are still a stupid cunt. My apologies to cunts.

Joe Schmoe ayon kay ...

So lefties claim the mantle of science and rationality, and then try to attribute all things deemed successful to a policy or action of their party. Everything deemed wrong in the world is attributed to wrong-headed policies of the other party, and also to the inability to adopt the policy of their party.

This is the opposite of the scientific approach and highly irrational. It distorts data to arrive at pre-conceived biased opinions. This is the realm of academics, lefty bloggers, and bureaucrats, but not businesspeople who have to consider all the data and go with what actually works, even if it means admitting you were wrong.

Joe Schmoe ayon kay ...

Macroeconomics is purely a forensic exercise. Its predictive capabilities are not accurate (anyone remember Christine Romer?). Lefties take a chimeric approach with macroeconomics. For it to be useful as a predictive tool, it is implicit that human behavior is known, predictable, and quantifiable. Which is a very conservative philosophy, to ignore progressive and innovative behaviors by these same humans.

Baron Zemo ayon kay ...

Another one bites the dust.

Ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha,ha!

Baron Zemo ayon kay ...

Someone much smarter than me (which could be just about anybody) quoted this passage to me yesterday:


"Abusive people don't behave abusively all the time or even most of the time. Real abuse is sporadic, intermittent, occasional, temporary and sustained only for short bursts. It doesn't take much mistreatment to terrorize or demoralize a person for a very long time. It is quite common for an abusive person to behave normally most of the time and even be kind, polite, humble, gracious, generous, devoted or apologetic in periods between and immediately following episodes of mistreatment. This is often how an abusive person draws a victim closer to themselves between outbursts. It is also common during these periods for an abusive person to want to "rewrite" their own history or try to influence their victim to misrepresent or ignore past events as a way of justifying themselves or dealing with the discomfort they feel over the realities of their dysfunctional behavior. The victim will often play along, grateful for a period of calm, happy to "let sleeping dogs lie" and not wanting to provoke any further outbursts."

Just sayn'

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...
Naalis ng may-ari ang komentong ito.
Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

And Trooper, you of all people who had all of your last comments to me here on Althouse deleted, over a year ago, very abusive comments BTW, have the nerve to actually speak of abusive people AS IF you aren't one othe worst here?

You don't want me to mention the vile, extremely hateful things you have said about Althouse and Meade in other places. Why did you choose to come back here to comment anyway? I believe it's ONLY to stir the pot.

No mention of President Mom Jeans, Whoresoftheinternet, or Mehadras or any one other multiple sock puppets, when you speak of abusive people AS IF you have some authority to speak of who is and isn't an abusive personality. That is how I know your little sermon on what abusive people are is not sincere.

Baron Zemo ayon kay ...

Some people think it is all about them. All the time. Every time.

Guilty conscience?

Pretty funny.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

No Baron, I know you.

Baron Zemo ayon kay ...

Don't worry about me....relax everything is not about you.

Hindi-nagpakilala ayon kay ...

You are a pot stirring hypocrite. I call 'em as I see 'em. Your Baron Zemo persona is so cute, but the real Trooper is a misogynist and an abusive hypocrite.

Baron Zemo ayon kay ...

Hee,hee.

Sure thing dearie. Whatever you say.

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