Obviously these articles were picked not to inform but just to encourage the Obamaphobes! But - seriously - school lunches are underwritten by the government - and childhood obesity is a very serious problem in the U.S. Bottom line - lazy parents feed their kids junk creating spoiled kids who refuse to eat fruits and vegetables. One article related the story of cases of peaches being thrown away - PEACHES - that's pathetic. Complaints about hummus - which is both nutritious and tastes good. I have no sympathy for the kids. If they refuse to eat fruits and vegetables - let 'em go hungry. When they get hungry enough they'll eat.
Ann Althouse said....The Healthy, Hunger--Free Kids Act is leaving kids hungry."
Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
Hell I remember when I was 12-13, I was able to eat foot-long submarine sandwiches every day for lunch and not gain a pound. Then 3 years later, eating less food I was getting pudgy. Adolescent growth spurts are crazy I tell ya.
Dave: Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
And then there's Dave, sucking on BigBrother's teat while he slurps UncleSugarDaddy's cock.
this makes me sad to think of this kid i knew 24 years ago who's dad was an alcoholic and who got his main and often only meal for the day at school. what are kids like him doing if their school only serves lunch. yea i know there are programs and all but that takes parents that CARE. when i was that age i certainly had a 'hollow leg' i think the comment about basing a diet for kids on a adult burn rate has some merit but yea, peaches going to waste? not so much
Dave said... Ann Althouse said....The Healthy, Hunger--Free Kids Act is leaving kids hungry."
Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
Studies have shown, Dave, that the parents of the really obese children overwhelmingly vote democrat.
Sounds like the anti-Establishment Lefties' McNuggets have finally come home to roost. Although we thought it would be their kids, not their grandchildren, but how else do you expect kids who've had PC shoved down their throats all their lives to act?
This is how revolutions start.
Dave said...
Obviously these articles were picked not to inform but just to encourage the Obamaphobes! But - seriously - school lunches are underwritten by the government - and childhood obesity is a very serious problem in the U.S.
The school lunch thing is run by the Agriculture Department and is a subsidy program for farmers.
Obesity is a problem, but the parents have to fix it, not the Feds.
"Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)"
The problem isn't solely what they are eating, it's that kids rarely get exercise anymore, unless they are in organized sports or band (yes, band, kids work their asses off during football/competition season), or Scouts. Schools don't offer PE for any useful length of time anymore (our school gives them 15 minutes and one walk around the track), and God forbid if your kids are allowed to go out and play unsupervised or the cops will arrest you.
But this feel-good program is not helping. The kids are starving and more than likely will fill up on any junk food they can find. Stupid and counterproductive government program. Like most of them.
As to Republicans being fat, well, there are plenty of two-ton Nellies and Nelsons among those union protestors let me tell ya. Not to mention that obesity and all the accompanying health issues among blacks is a major problem.
Scratch a liberal and out comes the fascist. Next Dave will be advocating collectives to raise the kids as the lazy parents can't be trusted to raise them right. But that won't be enough for the likes of Dave so to avoid this problem of bad parenting Dave will ultimately require that parents demonstrate their fitness to be parents before they can have children. Forward! Forward to the China one child policy but for only those deemed worthy enough to be parents.
. Obamaphobes is a definition of being an intelligent adult. What's your excuse Dave?
If you aim your calorie count at the 50th percentile, you underfeed half the students and overfeed half. Choose a "generous" 75th percentile, then you're overfeeding most of the students while still underfeeding one in four. At the 90th percentile, you're way overfeeding a significant number of kids, overfeeding most by a good margin, and still failing to provide enough food for one in ten.
Only idiots who can't actually do math could think you can design school lunch portions to simultaneously fight childhood obesity and adequately feed everyone.
The idiots (like Dave) of course don't understand that they're idiots, and so will turn around and self-righteously blame the subjects of the plans for failing to conform.
We took the neighbors kids, 4 of em' plus my step daughter to Frisch's, where they have an all you can eat salad bar. Their family is poor but they're not starving. They have a set of twins that were too young to go with us. Their father is the only one who works, at a menial job, that while it pays okay, is hard to keep up with that size of a family.
Anyway, the oldest boy gets himself a plate of salad with peaches and is just gushing over how he loves them. So I told him "If you like them so much, go get some more". "You can do that?" he asked astounded. "Yeah" I told him, "you can eat all you want." Never saw a kid so grateful and happy before.0
Kids are gonna' do what kids do. Moochie, and her pussy whipped hubby may be dictators in their minds, but it the kids minds they are fools. Hell, I didn't eat half the stuff as a kid that I do now...I'd never eat beans, or saurkraut, or cabbage, carrots, etc. as a kid, and no amount of punishment would make me. Since I've matured my tastes have also.
Just as an experiment, I wonder how the old "you can eat all the candy you want" when you get hired by the candy store trick would work.
And as an aside, this first lady shit having power is a load of ...well...shit! You got 1 job bitch, you fuck the president. That's it. No secretaries unless you pay them, no flying privileges on AF1. None of that crap. You weren't elected, you get nothing.
"Scratch a Russsian and you'll find a Tartar" was the old saying, then we got "Scratch a Liberal and you'll find a Robespierre," now, under the kindly ministrations of Michelle O we have"Scratch a Govt nutritionist and you'll find a Food Nazi."
School lunches aren't the problem; it's all the crap-eating, adult-portion-sizing and ass-sitting that goes on outside of school.
Duh.
And it doesn't help that some schools are A. chasing test scores and B. so afraid of someone getting hurt that they've done away with recess.
I am not exaggerating. At a previous elementary school my kids attended, running--RUNNING--was not allowed on the playground because some wee little moron might run into another kid and then OH NOES SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE HIM TO THE NURSE. And then the next school they went to reserved recess as a Special Privilege on the last Friday of the month if the kids had sat sufficiently quietly in their seats and done their worksheets meekly enough for the preceeding weeks.
Now, if they didn't get enough calories to allow them to tend to their "reproductive rights" then we might have a problem. But healthy athletics? Fageddaboutit.
Ah, central planning. Good intentions by government ALWAYS turns out well for the people, doesn't it. And if it doesn't, does it really matter? All that matters is that they CARE. And the people who vote for them CARE. And that the people fork over their money, that matters too.
And, it doesn't end with school lunches. At our school the cooks said they are supposed to watch what kids bring from home to make sure it meets the school lunch requirements. I don't know what happens if it doesn't. But, it can't be long until kids aren't allowed to bring food from home.
Hell I remember when I was 12-13, I was able to eat foot-long submarine sandwiches every day for lunch and not gain a pound.
We were just talking the other day at work about how teenage boys are like a plague of locusts…they need a whole lot more food than adults do.
I wish people would get away from this idea that everyone is the same and needs the same stuff.We all have different food needs, and sometimes we need different stuff on different days.
Imagine once healthcare is fully implemented, and now it's in everyone's interest that you do certain things (except for some classes of people). Then some psychologist will let us know that good thoughts about your government leaders help you to live more healthily, and they will start brainwashing young kids by having them chant "Barrack Hussein Obama, MM. MM. MM." Perhaps they will slip a little "Mo" in there too, to keep the queen bee control us all bitch happy.
How does the U.S. Congress, pass "The Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010", as part of the reauthorization of the "Child Nutrition Act" but not pass a budget? For going on 4 years now?
Operating under Continuing Resolutions, the spending basis is supposed to be not more than 95% of prior spending. Wink-wink.
So in a "re-authorization" of a prior program, said program is increased in both scope, regulatory reach, and expenditure.
Is anyone beginning to realize just why legislatures and governments like not having budgets?
But, it can't be long until kids aren't allowed to bring food from home.
Already, parents cannot bring homemade goodies into the classroom. Any treats must be bought.
Lunchtime is a thriving marketplace at my son's school. All kinds of food changes hands as the kids swap for something tastier. When the school system (or Michelle) discovers this, they will probably put a stop to it and the only way to do that would be to stop "allowing" kids to bring their own lunches.
I wonder what would happen if the lunch and breakfast programs just stopped. My guess is that parents would begin feeding kids before school and sending a lunch with them. Radical idea, though. I'd love to see it happen.
Our friend who works in the elementary school cafeteria says that they throw away at least HALF of the food daily.
The little milk cartons that are unopened because the children don't want to drink warmish milk or the ones that aren't even picked up.....also must be thrown away, unopened. A local pig farmer offered to buy the milk and excess vegetables that hadn't been served and was told NO sale. By rules the food must be thrown out.
So. We waste food by preparing shit the kids don't want to eat. Don't let the kids bring their own lunches with food they might want to eat. Force them to put it on their plates and push it around for a while. Then, instead of trying to salvage something, we throw the whole mess into the garbage.
Someone needs to have their nads on a plate for this atrocity.
I'm not insulting aarvarks, just their shit. Their shit probably doesn't taste any worse than our shit, but it's still shit. (And who really wants to put the proposition to the test?)
So why aardvarks? Because aardvark is a funny word. Probably oughtta be a verb, too. "Oh man, I tried some humus and then I aardvarked all over the lunch lady!"
And since I think there ought to be a poll on this topic (for SCIENCE! And who can argue with science, other than everybody?), we also should include party affiliation and political leanings into the poll. I bet liberal Dems just LOVE humus (statistically speaking) and that the more conservative and Republican one gets the less it will be loved.
Further, I'm willing to bet that Independent and centrist voting behavior can be predicted somewhat accurately by opinions on humus. The more they like humus the more likely they will be to vote for Barry O this fall, and so on.
They should take responsibility for their lives and bring their own damn lunch.
Either not allowed or the lunch from home is inspected and the food that offends is thrown out.
A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because the school told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious.
The girl’s turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the person who was inspecting all lunch boxes in the More at Four classroom that day.
Or better yet, go to private school.
Yah, Comrade!!! only the elite will be able to go to the private schools the proletariat will eat what we mandate and exercise when we say and in synchronization!!!
I can see them tossing the peaches. Yes. Peaches are the iffiest of all the seasonal commercial fruits.
And I mean it.
Once I had one that was almost too far gone. Overly ripe. Questionable. I ate it anyway. It had been picked at its perfect moment. But then languished a day or two too long and began to turn. It fermented ever so slightly, imparting an intrigue of a very light questionable turn, and I daresay it was the most delicious peach I ever ate. Perfectly ripened, fully flavorful, developed beyond its natural perfection with faint trace of intoxicating fermenting deterioration, a few more hours in that heat and the peach would be too soft to eat. No peach can ever be as good as that peach was, the most glorious of all peaches, but I can still look.
I've been to the store and seen giant boxes of hard peaches, and this is a peach-growing state. There is no amount of sitting around that will make those peaches taste good. They were picked too soon while still hard with harvest and with transportation in mind and they will not ripen on the counter. They do soften but turn mealy instead and cannot develop the sugar they would in the sun on the branch. That has to be added, sugar and flavor, they have to be cooked. They have no peach flavor at all, nor peach texture. Yes, I can see giant boxes of peaches wasted because someone thought delivering a giant box of hard-ass peaches to a school is a good idea. Then blame the spoiled kids for having sensible peach-discretion, and their song is good enough to put on my ipod, and when it comes up I'd go, oh there's those hungry kids again hahahaha.
"Further, I'm willing to bet that Independent and centrist voting behavior can be predicted somewhat accurately by opinions on humus. The more they like humus the more likely they will be to vote for Barry O this fall, and so on."
I was joking about insulting the poor aardvark by the way. I agree with your theory.
I honestly think hummus is a joke. Literally. I think hummus is the result of someone saying "Dude. You won't believe what Americans and Canadians will rave about if served to them by someone of the right ethnicity. Just watch this---"
@Dave, first of all the article certainly does inform. It doesn't inform you because you're too stupid to be informed by anything so basic as reality.
Second, is there a point where it crosses that silly little thing you jokingly call your brain that it's not your job to decide what teenagers will and will not eat? If they don't want to eat peaches or hummus, that's their right.
You get that word "rights"? Yeah, teenagers have rights too.
And third, teenagers need meat. Individuals whose brains are growing need animal fats to help build their brain cells. (That happens to be true. You could look it up.) So your rules
And fourth, anyone who says "when they get hungry enough they'll eat" needs to be used as a tackling dummy for the local high school football team. They're already the dummy, so they might as well be put to effective use.
And TWM, don't fuck with the aardvarks. You think that humus eating kid is the only aardvarker out there? Those aardvarks can aardvark you in ways you couldn't imagine. People in Hollywood pay top dollar to dominatrices to get aardvarked like that, so unless that's your kind of thing....
Dust Bunny Queen ...did you read my remark at 8:39? Rinse and repeat...there is a relationship between government autocracy and no budgets.
I'm guessing based upon my years military and as a "Fed"...that we've passed the point of no return.
Government is no longer a service provider, but a rule writer of regulations with the force of law, with no requirement that the rules have any basis in actual law.
You will damn well make do with not more than 3 ounces of protein from meats and grains for teenagers...and like it, or else. You cannot even refuse to participate anymore.
I think that only people that like hummus are people who think it's cool to like hummus.
No one truly likes it.
Hummus is nasty. However, garbanzo bean soup with italian sausage and lots of garlic and olive oil drizzled on top is pretty good. Also garbanzo bean salad can be nice. But, all of those are acquired tastes and trying to force feed it to children like geese being fed for foie gras (which is also very yummy) is just cruel.
Oh, and the school lunches are crap. They've always been crap. They are a major reason for the obesity problem, but not in the sense that the kids eat one crazy unhealthy meal a day and that throws them off. The school nutrition program has, for the last 20 years at least (that's all I can speak to from first hand knowledge) screwed up by putting a government stamp of approval on crap food. Eating a hamburger and fries for lunch every day won't hurt a growing kid too much, and two hamburgers won't hurt a teenage boy. The trouble comes when people who have been fed that garbage day-in day-out for 13 years grow up thinking that it's healthy. Even when schools teach nutrition (and they usually don't) the actions of feeding kids Cocoa Krispies and Pop Tarts and pizza every darn day speaks louder than those words. But, then, pizza and pop tarts *are* better than nothing for the kids whose parents are really screwed up, so what to do? I kind of think the kids who would really do without if not for the school lunch should be identified and fed somehow, but they should end the practice of providing a cafeteria lunch that everyone can buy because it's just impossible to feed kids a healthy, palatable meal in those quantities. Let the football players bring a side of beef or whatever they eat everyday to school, the 90-pound freshman can bring their salad and sun chips. Everybody's happy.
What I love most about the video, aside from the great singing, is all the co-operation it took between the kids, the adults and even the little kids to get this made. The gags aren't all that great of course, but the spirit that motivates them is admirable in the extreme.
You will damn well make do with not more than 3 ounces of protein from meats and grains for teenagers...and like it, or else. You cannot even refuse to participate anymore.
I can shoot a deer, some geese, pheasants, ducks :-)
We are right now buying our annual quarter beef from a local rancher. Also half a pig and half a lamb (splitting with some other people taking the other portions the cost of butchering). Come and get me Michelle. I dare you!!
I can see them tossing the peaches. Yes. Peaches are the iffiest of all the seasonal commercial fruits.
That’s a good point. I am very picky about fresh fruit. And most fruit you pick up at the grocery store is tasteless, especially out of season. Why bother?
The government is pushing a diet that will continue the obesity problems as they are encouraging portion control and limiting dietary fat…. Somebody send Michelle a copy of Taubes.
This. Just like they started this whole mess in first place by helpfully pushing healthy things like low fat diets, margarine and pasta all the time! And that’s not even getting into corn subsidies. Thanks a mill, folks, but maybe you should stop ‘helping’.
I think you hummus haters have never had the good stuff with fresh warm pita bread and maybe some olives. Mmmm…
I love hummus, but I couldn't eat it every day. Sometimes you need actual meat.
I like hummus and I eat it nearly every day. I eat it with meat, lost of meat(beef or lamb or pork), and always with a side of fruit...it is a great complement to meat, and it is also protein.
I like potatoes just as much, but when too lazy to make mashed potatoes, I grab the local fresh hummus. It's probably due to the neighborhood I live in, where fresh made hummus is available on every street corner. That...and the fact even at my advanced age, I crave protein.
I said it before and I'll say it again (and again until Ann kicks me the hell out of here): None of this liberal/progressive/socialist/fascist crap would be happening were it not for the 19th Amendment.
To my British friends having the hummus means being inspired with creativity.
No hummus means low creativity. But you know what's better than hummus? Mango salsa.
It's like pico de gallo with mango and cucumber.
And guacamole is like pico de gallo with avocado.
So you can assemble those ingredients for pico de gallo and include mango, cucumber, and avocado, and set out three outstanding variant variations that vary quite variously. It's a trick! And they're all better than hummus. You can do all that and set out hummus and I'll bet you, oh, a dollar that all the salsas are gone while the hummus just sits there. Sits and sits. Looking like a bowl of loose poo next to bright happy hot snappy colorful brilliant salsas.
Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake". Fast forward two hundred plus years and Michelle Obama says "let them eat humus!". Friends, the revolution is near. Off with their heads!
I can shoot a deer, some geese, pheasants, ducks :-)
Goose, I loves me some goose, venison too, if from farm grains country, not piney woods ... However, good luck getting any of that in to a school lunch program.
The 'country boy can survive" (Hank, Jr :-)...but not eating in school meal programs. With the flick of a future pen USDA rule makers can prohibit bag lunches in schools with lunch programs. And they will do so.
Who will stop them? What school will fore-go the subsidy?
Meanwhile have the kidlets load up on cucumbers ... makes the farts mo' betta :-))
Goose, I loves me some goose, venison too, if from farm grains country, not piney wood
The geese are feasting on wild rice fields and the deer grow fat on alfalfa and hay as well as eating tons of apples from the trees on people's property and old abandoned homesteads. You can always spot the old pioneer homesteads even though the house is gone, the apples and other fruit trees live on.
I didn't grow up a hummus-eater as a mid-western child of the 50s, but Costco's Saba brand spinach&artichoke version is great, as is their spicy fire-roasted tomato version...I've been "converted" lol
(BTW, various Muslim organizations currently have an organized campaign pressuring COSTCO to quit using their Israeli Sabra supplier)
(BTW, various Muslim organizations currently have an organized campaign pressuring COSTCO to quit using their Israeli Sabra supplier)
What organizations? Serious question.
If CAIR is one of them, it is almost meaningless...they're the Arab equivalent of Al Sharpton.
I ask because in my very Arab community even Hebrew National hot dogs are sold in Arab stores. Very few Arab stores even sell canned hummus...fresh is the thing around here.
I was fond of winning arguments about "hunger" in the US by pointing out that the US was the only nation in all space/time where the biggest food problem is obesity, not hunger.
I guess the Obamas got embarrassed by that smackdown once too often, and are determined to bring back widespread hunger to America's youth.
Probably so they can expand govt control ever farther to "fix" the problem govt created.
Costco's Sabra brand is fresh. BTW, I should have added the pine-nut version as one of my faves)
As to the pressure groups? AFAIK, they are part of a long -standing decades-old loose-knit BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) "movement" designed to de-legitmize Israel. I first read of it @Debbie Schussel wherein she described locally organized street demonstrations (name of org. she didn't say) in Philadelphia in front of a local COSTCO. The main push against Sabra, tho, as I understand it, is actually in Israel to pressure Sabra from supplying the IDF.
So I guess we will get no more Michael Phelps (12,000 calories/day) out of public schools.
I love hummus and serve it at all my parties with pita. And I am not an Obama voter. So there goes the theory.
Maybe, maybe, there is a point to limiting calories if the government is paying for lunches, but many kids pay for their own. How can government limit them?
Okay....it's in a tub with a top. Looks fresh. How long has it been in that tube when you buy it? Probably not long (hence fresh) since....
According to Sabra's website:
Sabra Dipping Company is an American-based company. Our staff of more than 500 employees are based in the United States, and our products are exclusively manufactured and distributed within the United States and Canada.
I will try some, probably the pine nut version, next time I am in Costco. I mix pine nuts, almond slivers and fried bits of lamb (in olive oil) in to the store-made hummus I eat hear regularly.
When I referred to "fresh" I was assuming "fresh" meant made the day you buy it, in the shop you buy it. As I've mentioned, where I live fresh hummus is easier to find than fried chicken.
Remember which agency is involved in this program: the Department of Agriculture.
Their mission is to prop up food prices, in part by increasing consumption. Throwing food away serves that particularly well, as it doesn't compete with other consumption. (Remember when the same bunch opposed Reagan's idea to empty warehouses of food to feed people?)
> By the way, the same gov't-farm industry nexus gave us the current obesity problem. Never forget that. Nice racket, government: We pay you to create the problem, then we pay you to "solve," all with our taxes--and along the way, you grow in power.
> Seriously, we need the federal government to intervene to ensure people eat right?
If that's true (it's not), then we're toast. Sell off every copy of the constitution and declaration of independence, we no longer have any use for them. Quit having elections, what's the point? Figure out the best way for our nation to go out of business. Because if we can't manage that level of self-government (feeding ourselves and our families) without Uncle Sugar deciding it, we've completely re-infantilized ourselves.
I don't buy it; anyone who does think we are that pathetic...you're pathetic. And a fascist. (Yes, I am including you, "Dave.")
Do NOT say one bleeping word about how you love freedom. Or that you respect personal choice. You don't know the meaning of words. You are an idiot.
"Lunchtime is a thriving marketplace at my son's school. All kinds of food changes hands as the kids swap for something tastier. When the school system (or Michelle) discovers this, they will probably put a stop to it and the only way to do that would be to stop "allowing" kids to bring their own lunches." ***** Holy crap, I see a major moneymaking opportunity here for some enterprising kid. Brownies made with butter could probably fetch $5 per square; cans of pop would probably go for $5 as well if you threw in a clean, empty, fat-free milk carton to drink the soda out of (so no one is the wiser...), velveeta cheese sandwiches...I say fire up the George Forman grill behind the utility building...$8 for a grilled cheese with ham with a browned, buttery outside...
Soon, gangs will pop up specializing in certain off limit foods...turf wars will break out. Sigh, in the end, someone would probably get shot on the playground.
Only THEN...will the restrictions be looked at with a clearer eye.
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My friend/coworker's kid eats 3 school lunches a day to get enough to eat. He's a big guy and a football player.
Get used to it, kid.
I can see why Drudge is pushing this food thing.
But, why is he simultaneously pointing out that Romney runs a less lean campaign than BHO? Weird.
I've never seen a more racist video in my life.
Micelle is into lean and nutritious food.
BHO is into lean and effective management.
I think Drudge shot himself in the foot.
I've never seen a more racist video in my life.
You think this was bad? The rough cut had Michelle firing tracer rounds over the heads of those little kids crawling across the grass.
There may be hope for them & us yet.
More please, Sir
Lyle said...
"I've never seen a more racist video in my life."
It's hard to see much in your life when you hide yourself up someone's you-know-what.
Obviously these articles were picked not to inform but just to encourage the Obamaphobes! But - seriously - school lunches are underwritten by the government - and childhood obesity is a very serious problem in the U.S. Bottom line - lazy parents feed their kids junk creating spoiled kids who refuse to eat fruits and vegetables. One article related the story of cases of peaches being thrown away - PEACHES - that's pathetic. Complaints about hummus - which is both nutritious and tastes good. I have no sympathy for the kids. If they refuse to eat fruits and vegetables - let 'em go hungry. When they get hungry enough they'll eat.
Ann Althouse said....The Healthy, Hunger--Free Kids Act is leaving kids hungry."
Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
For every topic, there's some new participant who shows up to defend Obama.
Is Dave the new troll or an old one?
Children aren't adults. They are essentially aliens with totally different nutritional requirements.
We should stop formulating school lunches based on the needs of middle aged fat people.
Hell I remember when I was 12-13, I was able to eat foot-long submarine sandwiches every day for lunch and not gain a pound. Then 3 years later, eating less food I was getting pudgy. Adolescent growth spurts are crazy I tell ya.
Dave: Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
And then there's Dave, sucking on BigBrother's teat while he slurps UncleSugarDaddy's cock.
More waste.
High school athletes can burn 3500-5000 calories daily.
Central planning always fails.
"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!"
Why isn't anyone commenting on how great the music is? Reminiscent of Pet Sounds.
this makes me sad to think of this kid i knew 24 years ago who's dad was an alcoholic and who got his main and often only meal for the day at school. what are kids like him doing if their school only serves lunch. yea i know there are programs and all but that takes parents that CARE. when i was that age i certainly had a 'hollow leg' i think the comment about basing a diet for kids on a adult burn rate has some merit but yea, peaches going to waste? not so much
So. Basically the government has mandated the American equivelent of prison camp rations on growing children.
Some big-government lover (Dave) said, "School lunches are underwritten by the government ..."
I don't think you know what is meant by "underwritten."
You must think "underwritten" means "fucked up." Right?
Dave said...
Ann Althouse said....The Healthy, Hunger--Free Kids Act is leaving kids hungry."
Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)
Studies have shown, Dave, that the parents of the really obese children overwhelmingly vote democrat.
Hmmmm,
Sounds like the anti-Establishment Lefties' McNuggets have finally come home to roost. Although we thought it would be their kids, not their grandchildren, but how else do you expect kids who've had PC shoved down their throats all their lives to act?
This is how revolutions start.
Dave said...
Obviously these articles were picked not to inform but just to encourage the Obamaphobes! But - seriously - school lunches are underwritten by the government - and childhood obesity is a very serious problem in the U.S.
The school lunch thing is run by the Agriculture Department and is a subsidy program for farmers.
Obesity is a problem, but the parents have to fix it, not the Feds.
Protein limited to 2 ounce portions? Is that really true?
No way that's enough for a growing kid, much less a high school athlete.
"If you don't eat your meat, you can't have any pudding, how can you have any pudding if you don't eat your meat!"
Oops, Fen beat me to it.
Still, now it's no meat or pudding.
"Bullshit! It's one meal with a generous calorie count, but it requires actually eating a balanced meal. Kids are more obese and less physically fit. In other words - fatter and lazier - perfect young Republicans (assuming they're as ignorant as they are unfit!)"
The problem isn't solely what they are eating, it's that kids rarely get exercise anymore, unless they are in organized sports or band (yes, band, kids work their asses off during football/competition season), or Scouts. Schools don't offer PE for any useful length of time anymore (our school gives them 15 minutes and one walk around the track), and God forbid if your kids are allowed to go out and play unsupervised or the cops will arrest you.
But this feel-good program is not helping. The kids are starving and more than likely will fill up on any junk food they can find. Stupid and counterproductive government program. Like most of them.
As to Republicans being fat, well, there are plenty of two-ton Nellies and Nelsons among those union protestors let me tell ya. Not to mention that obesity and all the accompanying health issues among blacks is a major problem.
Dave said...
Scratch a liberal and out comes the fascist. Next Dave will be advocating collectives to raise the kids as the lazy parents can't be trusted to raise them right. But that won't be enough for the likes of Dave so to avoid this problem of bad parenting Dave will ultimately require that parents demonstrate their fitness to be parents before they can have children. Forward! Forward to the China one child policy but for only those deemed worthy enough to be parents.
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Obamaphobes is a definition of being an intelligent adult. What's your excuse Dave?
One size fits all doesn't.
If you aim your calorie count at the 50th percentile, you underfeed half the students and overfeed half. Choose a "generous" 75th percentile, then you're overfeeding most of the students while still underfeeding one in four. At the 90th percentile, you're way overfeeding a significant number of kids, overfeeding most by a good margin, and still failing to provide enough food for one in ten.
Only idiots who can't actually do math could think you can design school lunch portions to simultaneously fight childhood obesity and adequately feed everyone.
The idiots (like Dave) of course don't understand that they're idiots, and so will turn around and self-righteously blame the subjects of the plans for failing to conform.
Complaining about healthy lunches now?!
Victory is imminent!
We took the neighbors kids, 4 of em' plus my step daughter to Frisch's, where they have an all you can eat salad bar. Their family is poor but they're not starving. They have a set of twins that were too young to go with us. Their father is the only one who works, at a menial job, that while it pays okay, is hard to keep up with that size of a family.
Anyway, the oldest boy gets himself a plate of salad with peaches and is just gushing over how he loves them. So I told him "If you like them so much, go get some more". "You can do that?" he asked astounded. "Yeah" I told him, "you can eat all you want." Never saw a kid so grateful and happy before.0
Kids are gonna' do what kids do. Moochie, and her pussy whipped hubby may be dictators in their minds, but it the kids minds they are fools. Hell, I didn't eat half the stuff as a kid that I do now...I'd never eat beans, or saurkraut, or cabbage, carrots, etc. as a kid, and no amount of punishment would make me. Since I've matured my tastes have also.
Just as an experiment, I wonder how the old "you can eat all the candy you want" when you get hired by the candy store trick would work.
And as an aside, this first lady shit having power is a load of ...well...shit! You got 1 job bitch, you fuck the president. That's it. No secretaries unless you pay them, no flying privileges on AF1. None of that crap. You weren't elected, you get nothing.
"Complaining about healthy lunches now?!"
That's the point, they're not really healthy . . .
"Scratch a Russsian and you'll find a Tartar" was the old saying, then we got "Scratch a Liberal and you'll find a Robespierre," now, under the kindly ministrations of Michelle O we have"Scratch a Govt nutritionist and you'll find a Food Nazi."
AVANTI!!!
School lunches aren't the problem; it's all the crap-eating, adult-portion-sizing and ass-sitting that goes on outside of school.
Duh.
And it doesn't help that some schools are A. chasing test scores and B. so afraid of someone getting hurt that they've done away with recess.
I am not exaggerating. At a previous elementary school my kids attended, running--RUNNING--was not allowed on the playground because some wee little moron might run into another kid and then OH NOES SOMEONE HAS TO TAKE HIM TO THE NURSE. And then the next school they went to reserved recess as a Special Privilege on the last Friday of the month if the kids had sat sufficiently quietly in their seats and done their worksheets meekly enough for the preceeding weeks.
Oh yeah, also? I love how funny and creative teenagers can be.
Did they change the lunches because kids were eating healthy meals at home but coming to school and getting fat?
No, I thought not.
Now, if they didn't get enough calories to allow them to tend to their "reproductive rights" then we might have a problem. But healthy athletics? Fageddaboutit.
Ferchrissakes, why are these kids getting government lunches? Talk about dependence.
They should take responsibility for their lives and bring their own damn lunch. Or better yet, go to private school.
Ah, central planning. Good intentions by government ALWAYS turns out well for the people, doesn't it. And if it doesn't, does it really matter? All that matters is that they CARE. And the people who vote for them CARE. And that the people fork over their money, that matters too.
It irks me to no end that the fed govt gets involved in what school kids eat. Butt out Michele.
And, it doesn't end with school lunches. At our school the cooks said they are supposed to watch what kids bring from home to make sure it meets the school lunch requirements. I don't know what happens if it doesn't. But, it can't be long until kids aren't allowed to bring food from home.
If this can be done at school, why can't this be done with food stamps?
To paraphrase Einstein:
Diet is to complicated for the dietitians to understand.
"If this can be done at school, why can't this be done with food stamps?"
Racist /snark
"Complaints about hummus - which is both nutritious and tastes good."
It may be nutritious, but it sure as hell doesn't taste good....and I have the tastebuds of Mikey from the old Life cereal commercial.
Wow. They put a limit on the protein content of the food. Why?
If you can stay within the calorie limit and max out on protein, that's a good thing.
Whole grains are a waste. They are not necessary if you can get fiber from vegetables.
Hell I remember when I was 12-13, I was able to eat foot-long submarine sandwiches every day for lunch and not gain a pound.
We were just talking the other day at work about how teenage boys are like a plague of locusts…they need a whole lot more food than adults do.
I wish people would get away from this idea that everyone is the same and needs the same stuff.We all have different food needs, and sometimes we need different stuff on different days.
"'If this can be done at school, why can't this be done with food stamps?'
Racist /snark"
Agreed, 100% of food stamp recipients are racial minorities. Someone is clearly a racist here.
Take a good, hard look, progs.
That's the next generation. And they think you suck.
Check that. They know you suck.
"Complaints about hummus - which is both nutritious and tastes good."
It may be nutritious, but it sure as hell doesn't taste good....and I have the tastebuds of Mikey from the old Life cereal commercial.
"Don't let them eat cake," -- Michelle Obama
I loved the bit where an administration official blamed the kids for being hungry. Does this Administration take responsibility for anything?
Also, Dave, who echos those comments above, is full of it. Humus is nasty.
"Let them eat beans."
Imagine once healthcare is fully implemented, and now it's in everyone's interest that you do certain things (except for some classes of people). Then some psychologist will let us know that good thoughts about your government leaders help you to live more healthily, and they will start brainwashing young kids by having them chant "Barrack Hussein Obama, MM. MM. MM." Perhaps they will slip a little "Mo" in there too, to keep the queen bee control us all bitch happy.
Questions ...
How does the U.S. Congress, pass "The Healthy, Hunger-Free Kids Act of 2010", as part of the reauthorization of the "Child Nutrition Act" but not pass a budget? For going on 4 years now?
Operating under Continuing Resolutions, the spending basis is supposed to be not more than 95% of prior spending. Wink-wink.
So in a "re-authorization" of a prior program, said program is increased in both scope, regulatory reach, and expenditure.
Is anyone beginning to realize just why legislatures and governments like not having budgets?
"Complaints about hummus - which is both nutritious and tastes good."
Hummus sucks so badly they have to serve it with other stuff just to make it edible.
We need an Althouse poll!
Humus: Ambrosia or aardvark shit?
(The correct answer is aardvark shit.)
But, it can't be long until kids aren't allowed to bring food from home.
Already, parents cannot bring homemade goodies into the classroom. Any treats must be bought.
Lunchtime is a thriving marketplace at my son's school. All kinds of food changes hands as the kids swap for something tastier. When the school system (or Michelle) discovers this, they will probably put a stop to it and the only way to do that would be to stop "allowing" kids to bring their own lunches.
I wonder what would happen if the lunch and breakfast programs just stopped. My guess is that parents would begin feeding kids before school and sending a lunch with them. Radical idea, though. I'd love to see it happen.
Complaining about healthy lunches now?!
Whose complaining? It's un-American, is all. It's what happens when you let the government control everything.
MO really stepped in it. Women don't want to be told they aren't doing a good job raising their kids. We need a new "Life of Julia" ad.
"Humus: Ambrosia or aardvark shit?"
Why insult the poor aardvarks?
We have too many Daves.
And I think Lyle was making a joke.
Our friend who works in the elementary school cafeteria says that they throw away at least HALF of the food daily.
The little milk cartons that are unopened because the children don't want to drink warmish milk or the ones that aren't even picked up.....also must be thrown away, unopened. A local pig farmer offered to buy the milk and excess vegetables that hadn't been served and was told NO sale. By rules the food must be thrown out.
So. We waste food by preparing shit the kids don't want to eat. Don't let the kids bring their own lunches with food they might want to eat. Force them to put it on their plates and push it around for a while. Then, instead of trying to salvage something, we throw the whole mess into the garbage.
Someone needs to have their nads on a plate for this atrocity.
Why insult the poor aardvarks?
I'm not insulting aarvarks, just their shit. Their shit probably doesn't taste any worse than our shit, but it's still shit. (And who really wants to put the proposition to the test?)
So why aardvarks? Because aardvark is a funny word. Probably oughtta be a verb, too. "Oh man, I tried some humus and then I aardvarked all over the lunch lady!"
And since I think there ought to be a poll on this topic (for SCIENCE! And who can argue with science, other than everybody?), we also should include party affiliation and political leanings into the poll. I bet liberal Dems just LOVE humus (statistically speaking) and that the more conservative and Republican one gets the less it will be loved.
Further, I'm willing to bet that Independent and centrist voting behavior can be predicted somewhat accurately by opinions on humus. The more they like humus the more likely they will be to vote for Barry O this fall, and so on.
They should take responsibility for their lives and bring their own damn lunch.
Either not allowed or the lunch from home is inspected and the food that offends is thrown out.
A preschooler at West Hoke Elementary School ate three chicken nuggets for lunch Jan. 30 because the school told her the lunch her mother packed was not nutritious.
The girl’s turkey and cheese sandwich, banana, potato chips, and apple juice did not meet U.S. Department of Agriculture guidelines, according to the interpretation of the person who was inspecting all lunch boxes in the More at Four classroom that day.
Or better yet, go to private school.
Yah, Comrade!!! only the elite will be able to go to the private schools the proletariat will eat what we mandate and exercise when we say and in synchronization!!!
I love hummus, but I couldn't eat it every day. Sometimes you need actual meat.
I can't believe they are only giving them 2 oz's of protein.
I can see them tossing the peaches. Yes. Peaches are the iffiest of all the seasonal commercial fruits.
And I mean it.
Once I had one that was almost too far gone. Overly ripe. Questionable. I ate it anyway. It had been picked at its perfect moment. But then languished a day or two too long and began to turn. It fermented ever so slightly, imparting an intrigue of a very light questionable turn, and I daresay it was the most delicious peach I ever ate. Perfectly ripened, fully flavorful, developed beyond its natural perfection with faint trace of intoxicating fermenting deterioration, a few more hours in that heat and the peach would be too soft to eat. No peach can ever be as good as that peach was, the most glorious of all peaches, but I can still look.
I've been to the store and seen giant boxes of hard peaches, and this is a peach-growing state. There is no amount of sitting around that will make those peaches taste good. They were picked too soon while still hard with harvest and with transportation in mind and they will not ripen on the counter. They do soften but turn mealy instead and cannot develop the sugar they would in the sun on the branch. That has to be added, sugar and flavor, they have to be cooked. They have no peach flavor at all, nor peach texture. Yes, I can see giant boxes of peaches wasted because someone thought delivering a giant box of hard-ass peaches to a school is a good idea. Then blame the spoiled kids for having sensible peach-discretion, and their song is good enough to put on my ipod, and when it comes up I'd go, oh there's those hungry kids again hahahaha.
"Further, I'm willing to bet that Independent and centrist voting behavior can be predicted somewhat accurately by opinions on humus. The more they like humus the more likely they will be to vote for Barry O this fall, and so on."
I was joking about insulting the poor aardvark by the way. I agree with your theory.
I think that only people that like hummus are people who think it's cool to like hummus.
No one truly likes it.
I honestly think hummus is a joke. Literally. I think hummus is the result of someone saying "Dude. You won't believe what Americans and Canadians will rave about if served to them by someone of the right ethnicity. Just watch this---"
The government is pushing a diet that will continue the obesity problems as they are encouraging portion control and limiting dietary fat.
Recipe for obesity.
If you accept the scientific data.
Somebody send Michelle a copy of Traubes.
Trey
@Dave, first of all the article certainly does inform. It doesn't inform you because you're too stupid to be informed by anything so basic as reality.
Second, is there a point where it crosses that silly little thing you jokingly call your brain that it's not your job to decide what teenagers will and will not eat? If they don't want to eat peaches or hummus, that's their right.
You get that word "rights"? Yeah, teenagers have rights too.
And third, teenagers need meat. Individuals whose brains are growing need animal fats to help build their brain cells. (That happens to be true. You could look it up.) So your rules
And fourth, anyone who says "when they get hungry enough they'll eat" needs to be used as a tackling dummy for the local high school football team. They're already the dummy, so they might as well be put to effective use.
sensible peach-discretion
The new Phrase of the Day!
And TWM, don't fuck with the aardvarks. You think that humus eating kid is the only aardvarker out there? Those aardvarks can aardvark you in ways you couldn't imagine. People in Hollywood pay top dollar to dominatrices to get aardvarked like that, so unless that's your kind of thing....
Honestly, I like hummus.
But not like I like steak.
Trey
Dust Bunny Queen ...did you read my remark at 8:39? Rinse and repeat...there is a relationship between government autocracy and no budgets.
I'm guessing based upon my years military and as a "Fed"...that we've passed the point of no return.
Government is no longer a service provider, but a rule writer of regulations with the force of law, with no requirement that the rules have any basis in actual law.
You will damn well make do with not more than 3 ounces of protein from meats and grains for teenagers...and like it, or else. You cannot even refuse to participate anymore.
Enjoy.
I think that only people that like hummus are people who think it's cool to like hummus.
No one truly likes it.
Hummus is nasty. However, garbanzo bean soup with italian sausage and lots of garlic and olive oil drizzled on top is pretty good. Also garbanzo bean salad can be nice. But, all of those are acquired tastes and trying to force feed it to children like geese being fed for foie gras (which is also very yummy) is just cruel.
Hey....teacher....leave those kids alone!!!
Oh, and the school lunches are crap. They've always been crap. They are a major reason for the obesity problem, but not in the sense that the kids eat one crazy unhealthy meal a day and that throws them off. The school nutrition program has, for the last 20 years at least (that's all I can speak to from first hand knowledge) screwed up by putting a government stamp of approval on crap food. Eating a hamburger and fries for lunch every day won't hurt a growing kid too much, and two hamburgers won't hurt a teenage boy. The trouble comes when people who have been fed that garbage day-in day-out for 13 years grow up thinking that it's healthy. Even when schools teach nutrition (and they usually don't) the actions of feeding kids Cocoa Krispies and Pop Tarts and pizza every darn day speaks louder than those words. But, then, pizza and pop tarts *are* better than nothing for the kids whose parents are really screwed up, so what to do? I kind of think the kids who would really do without if not for the school lunch should be identified and fed somehow, but they should end the practice of providing a cafeteria lunch that everyone can buy because it's just impossible to feed kids a healthy, palatable meal in those quantities. Let the football players bring a side of beef or whatever they eat everyday to school, the 90-pound freshman can bring their salad and sun chips. Everybody's happy.
What I love most about the video, aside from the great singing, is all the co-operation it took between the kids, the adults and even the little kids to get this made. The gags aren't all that great of course, but the spirit that motivates them is admirable in the extreme.
Well done!
You will damn well make do with not more than 3 ounces of protein from meats and grains for teenagers...and like it, or else. You cannot even refuse to participate anymore.
I can shoot a deer, some geese, pheasants, ducks :-)
We are right now buying our annual quarter beef from a local rancher. Also half a pig and half a lamb (splitting with some other people taking the other portions the cost of butchering). Come and get me Michelle. I dare you!!
I can see them tossing the peaches. Yes. Peaches are the iffiest of all the seasonal commercial fruits.
That’s a good point. I am very picky about fresh fruit. And most fruit you pick up at the grocery store is tasteless, especially out of season. Why bother?
The government is pushing a diet that will continue the obesity problems as they are encouraging portion control and limiting dietary fat…. Somebody send Michelle a copy of Taubes.
This. Just like they started this whole mess in first place by helpfully pushing healthy things like low fat diets, margarine and pasta all the time! And that’s not even getting into corn subsidies. Thanks a mill, folks, but maybe you should stop ‘helping’.
I think you hummus haters have never had the good stuff with fresh warm pita bread and maybe some olives. Mmmm…
Shanna said...
I love hummus, but I couldn't eat it every day. Sometimes you need actual meat.
I like hummus and I eat it nearly every day. I eat it with meat, lost of meat(beef or lamb or pork), and always with a side of fruit...it is a great complement to meat, and it is also protein.
I like potatoes just as much, but when too lazy to make mashed potatoes, I grab the local fresh hummus. It's probably due to the neighborhood I live in, where fresh made hummus is available on every street corner. That...and the fact even at my advanced age, I crave protein.
Damn it: lost = lots :-(
I said it before and I'll say it again (and again until Ann kicks me the hell out of here): None of this liberal/progressive/socialist/fascist crap would be happening were it not for the 19th Amendment.
To my British friends having the hummus means being inspired with creativity.
No hummus means low creativity. But you know what's better than hummus? Mango salsa.
It's like pico de gallo with mango and cucumber.
And guacamole is like pico de gallo with avocado.
So you can assemble those ingredients for pico de gallo and include mango, cucumber, and avocado, and set out three outstanding variant variations that vary quite variously. It's a trick! And they're all better than hummus. You can do all that and set out hummus and I'll bet you, oh, a dollar that all the salsas are gone while the hummus just sits there. Sits and sits. Looking like a bowl of loose poo next to bright happy hot snappy colorful brilliant salsas.
Ask me how I know that.
Nomennovum,
Look to the 17th Amendment rather than the 19th.
Marie Antoinette said "let them eat cake". Fast forward two hundred plus years and Michelle Obama says "let them eat humus!". Friends, the revolution is near. Off with their heads!
Dust Bunny Queen said...
I can shoot a deer, some geese, pheasants, ducks :-)
Goose, I loves me some goose, venison too, if from farm grains country, not piney woods ... However, good luck getting any of that in to a school lunch program.
The 'country boy can survive" (Hank, Jr :-)...but not eating in school meal programs. With the flick of a future pen USDA rule makers can prohibit bag lunches in schools with lunch programs. And they will do so.
Who will stop them? What school will fore-go the subsidy?
Meanwhile have the kidlets load up on cucumbers ... makes the farts mo' betta :-))
Goose, I loves me some goose, venison too, if from farm grains country, not piney wood
The geese are feasting on wild rice fields and the deer grow fat on alfalfa and hay as well as eating tons of apples from the trees on people's property and old abandoned homesteads. You can always spot the old pioneer homesteads even though the house is gone, the apples and other fruit trees live on.
Headline: "COMPLAINTS MOUNT AGAINST MICHELLE O'S NEW LUNCH MENU"
There's always room for Michelle-O!
Chip Ahoy sez...
It's like pico de gallo with mango and cucumber.
And guacamole is like pico de gallo with avocado.
Vaguely reminds of the meme *this here snake tastes like chicken, yes it does.*
No it doesn't. Snake taste like worn out Juicy Fruit gum.
Nothing with Mango is remotely like Pico de Gallo. Nothing. Blasphemer! :-)
I didn't grow up a hummus-eater as a mid-western child of the 50s, but Costco's Saba brand spinach&artichoke version is great, as is their spicy fire-roasted tomato version...I've been "converted" lol
(BTW, various Muslim organizations currently have an organized campaign pressuring COSTCO to quit using their Israeli Sabra supplier)
virgil xenophon said...
(BTW, various Muslim organizations currently have an organized campaign pressuring COSTCO to quit using their Israeli Sabra supplier)
What organizations? Serious question.
If CAIR is one of them, it is almost meaningless...they're the Arab equivalent of Al Sharpton.
I ask because in my very Arab community even Hebrew National hot dogs are sold in Arab stores. Very few Arab stores even sell canned hummus...fresh is the thing around here.
My daughter, a junior in high school, has been complaining about the lunches at her school. Smaller and the worst ever, she says.
So in just 40 years, we've gone from "school lunch is necessary so no kid goes hungry" to "school lunch is necessary to force kids to go hungry".
I was fond of winning arguments about "hunger" in the US by pointing out that the US was the only nation in all space/time where the biggest food problem is obesity, not hunger.
I guess the Obamas got embarrassed by that smackdown once too often, and are determined to bring back widespread hunger to America's youth.
Probably so they can expand govt control ever farther to "fix" the problem govt created.
@Airdog/
Costco's Sabra brand is fresh. BTW, I should have added the pine-nut version as one of my faves)
As to the pressure groups? AFAIK, they are part of a long -standing decades-old loose-knit BDS (Boycott, Divestment, Sanctions) "movement" designed to de-legitmize Israel. I first read of it @Debbie Schussel wherein she described locally organized street demonstrations (name of org. she didn't say) in Philadelphia in front of a local COSTCO. The main push against Sabra, tho, as I understand it, is actually in Israel to pressure Sabra from supplying the IDF.
machine said...
Complaining about healthy lunches now?!
Victory is imminent!
The wonderful thing about you, machine, is that we're never in any danger of you saying something intelligent.
Keep up the good work!
The "Oliver" administration?
"can I have some more please?"
"You want more!?!?
I love hummus. I don't know that I'd like school cafeteria hummus.
Are there really that many fat kids at school? I see a stat that says about one fifth.
One fifth of the kids need to go on a diet, so we put the other four fifths on the diet too?
That doesn't make any sense.
So I guess we will get no more Michael Phelps (12,000 calories/day) out of public schools.
I love hummus and serve it at all my parties with pita. And I am not an Obama voter. So there goes the theory.
Maybe, maybe, there is a point to limiting calories if the government is paying for lunches, but many kids pay for their own. How can government limit them?
Yes, Lyle was making a joke.
virgil xenophon said...
@Airdog/
Costco's Sabra brand is fresh.
Okay....it's in a tub with a top. Looks fresh. How long has it been in that tube when you buy it? Probably not long (hence fresh) since....
According to Sabra's website:
Sabra Dipping Company is an American-based company. Our staff of more than 500 employees are based in the United States, and our products are exclusively manufactured and distributed within the United States and Canada.
I will try some, probably the pine nut version, next time I am in Costco. I mix pine nuts, almond slivers and fried bits of lamb (in olive oil) in to the store-made hummus I eat hear regularly.
When I referred to "fresh" I was assuming "fresh" meant made the day you buy it, in the shop you buy it. As I've mentioned, where I live fresh hummus is easier to find than fried chicken.
Christy asked ...
... many kids pay for their own. How can government limit them?
Easy. Government tells the school system to limit the meal for everyone, paying or not paying, or lose the subsidy altogether.
Extortion 101 ... it is the evolving way for all government functions, who needs Congress, eh?
Two points:
> Throwing out food is not a bug, it's a feature.
Remember which agency is involved in this program: the Department of Agriculture.
Their mission is to prop up food prices, in part by increasing consumption. Throwing food away serves that particularly well, as it doesn't compete with other consumption. (Remember when the same bunch opposed Reagan's idea to empty warehouses of food to feed people?)
> By the way, the same gov't-farm industry nexus gave us the current obesity problem. Never forget that. Nice racket, government: We pay you to create the problem, then we pay you to "solve," all with our taxes--and along the way, you grow in power.
> Seriously, we need the federal government to intervene to ensure people eat right?
If that's true (it's not), then we're toast. Sell off every copy of the constitution and declaration of independence, we no longer have any use for them. Quit having elections, what's the point? Figure out the best way for our nation to go out of business. Because if we can't manage that level of self-government (feeding ourselves and our families) without Uncle Sugar deciding it, we've completely re-infantilized ourselves.
I don't buy it; anyone who does think we are that pathetic...you're pathetic. And a fascist. (Yes, I am including you, "Dave.")
Do NOT say one bleeping word about how you love freedom. Or that you respect personal choice. You don't know the meaning of words. You are an idiot.
"Lunchtime is a thriving marketplace at my son's school. All kinds of food changes hands as the kids swap for something tastier. When the school system (or Michelle) discovers this, they will probably put a stop to it and the only way to do that would be to stop "allowing" kids to bring their own lunches."
*****
Holy crap, I see a major moneymaking opportunity here for some enterprising kid. Brownies made with butter could probably fetch $5 per square; cans of pop would probably go for $5 as well if you threw in a clean, empty, fat-free milk carton to drink the soda out of (so no one is the wiser...), velveeta cheese sandwiches...I say fire up the George Forman grill behind the utility building...$8 for a grilled cheese with ham with a browned, buttery outside...
Soon, gangs will pop up specializing in certain off limit foods...turf wars will break out. Sigh, in the end, someone would probably get shot on the playground.
Only THEN...will the restrictions be looked at with a clearer eye.
Freeman Hunt said...
I love hummus.
You can have all of mine. The stuff tastes like dirt and smells like my work socks, Coucous come in a close second.
I'd rather eat beets.
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