Althouse: Remember when "women, the dominant sex, dropped their babies in birth buckets..."

September 23, 2012

Remember when "women, the dominant sex, dropped their babies in birth buckets..."

"... during pit stops at the chariot races while passive, adoring males chewed on umbilical cords like beef jerky"?

52 comments:

ampersand said...: I just recently learned that women were consigned to the top rows at Roman arenas. All those colliseum flicks had me believing they were in the front rows yelling for blood.; 9/23/12, 8:31 PM
Big Mike said...: Bad link.

But since you asked, no, I don't recollect that at all.; 9/23/12, 8:35 PM
mesquito said...: Florence King is such a good writer that that the phony populist Molly Ivins plagiarized her repeatedly.; 9/23/12, 8:37 PM
MadisonMan said...: I'm with Big Mike. I don't remember that.; 9/23/12, 8:41 PM
edutcher said...: Women were the dominant sex in ancient Rome*?

Of course, and Christians were their version of Hare Krishnas.

* Hint: it was considered unmanly for a man to allow a woman to fellate him.; 9/23/12, 8:43 PM
kentuckyliz said...: analogies, babies, feminism, history, meat

Oh please add me to that tag list.

analogies, babies, feminism, history, meat, kentuckyliz; 9/23/12, 8:44 PM
kentuckyliz said...: Chewing umbilical cords....?!?!?!

I bet they were real Greasy Regina Belchers.; 9/23/12, 8:45 PM
shiloh said...: "October 01, 2012, Issue"

Back to the future ...

Cons wanting to go back in time before the 19th amendment, I do remember when the Republican party was somewhat rational!; 9/23/12, 8:47 PM
Ann Althouse said...: (Sorry I had a bad link at first.); 9/23/12, 8:49 PM
Synova said...: LOL. Shiloh can't even admit that Naomi Wolfe and her vagina is a joke.

Rational?; 9/23/12, 8:50 PM
shiloh said...: Synova, again having lived thru 5+ years of Nixon and (8) years of Cheney/Bush my threshold for comedy is quite high!; 9/23/12, 8:53 PM
Michael K said...: I prefer the Tantra man. It sounds like shiloh but likes girls, at least part of them. A former partner of mine, in the days when he was single, used to say, "A woman is a life support system for a pussy." Apparently Wolf agrees.; 9/23/12, 8:54 PM
chickelit said...: Regarding Naomi Wolf's alleged authority on dopamine and other "female hormones"--I doubt she knows the difference between a catechol and a catcall.

This topic is getting tiresome, Althouse.; 9/23/12, 8:55 PM
edutcher said...: shiloh said...

Cons wanting to go back in time before the 19th amendment, I do remember when the Republican party was somewhat rational!

The Lefties wouldn't be where they are without it, since women voted for slugs like Jack Kennedy and Willie only because they wanted to go to bed with them.; 9/23/12, 8:58 PM
William said...: I kind of admire Naomi Wolf's courage. It really takes balls to subject yourself to such certain ridicule. The vagina is not my area of greatest expertise, but there really does seem to be a lot left to learn. Whoever heard of the g-spot until fairly recently? Can you imagine a major pleasure area of the human body that was not discovered until recent times?; 9/23/12, 9:00 PM
William said...: Someone's been asleep at the switch.; 9/23/12, 9:02 PM
Michael K said...: " Can you imagine a major pleasure area of the human body that was not discovered until recent times? "

No. I can think of a phony sex therapist naming it, though.; 9/23/12, 9:02 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: Remember when "women, the dominant sex,..."

Yeah, keep singing, Sister, keep singing,...; 9/23/12, 9:06 PM
Anonymous said...: Florence King is one of my favorite humorists - a bisexual conservative, an atheist who favors organized religion, a tough-minded feminist who slices and dices whiny progressive womyn. Or, as she puts it:

"I don't suffer fools and I like to make fools suffer."; 9/23/12, 9:12 PM
Lem Vibe Bandit said...: A vagina whisperer?

Now Ive heard everything.; 9/23/12, 9:16 PM
AlanKH said...: "Mother of 4" has the best comment: "This is a real book, not an entry into the Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest?"; 9/23/12, 9:16 PM
KCFleming said...: I love Florence King. Her book STET, Damnit!: The Misanthrope's Corner is a hoot.

She wrote 37 paperback porn novels in the 60s to pay her way through grad school, and she's a ruthless editor, so she was perfect for this review.; 9/23/12, 9:21 PM
Anonymous said...: Crack, your Mormon obsession has apparently rendered your sarcasm detector useless.

From the review:

"If you thought there was nothing new to say about female sexuality, you don’t know Naomi Wolf’s gift for saying nothing new about anything. In her 1991 bestseller, The Beauty Myth, she revealed that attractive women are luckier than homely women. A human shoehorn, she used her subsequent fame to ease herself into the role of political consultant in the 2000 presidential race and reveal that Al Gore has the personality of a tree."; 9/23/12, 9:21 PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...: shiloh,

"October 01, 2012, Issue"

Back to the future ...

Magazines always go on shelves before their nominal publication date. If you had ever done any work so menial as being a periodicals clerk in a chain bookstore [raises hand here], you would know that. For that matter, you'd know it if you had ever read or -- better yet -- subscribed to any weekly, bi-weekly, monthly, or bi-monthly periodical.; 9/23/12, 9:25 PM
shiloh said...: Anal retentive Michelle Dulak Thomson has a keen grasp of the obvious!

Thanx for sharin' ...; 9/23/12, 9:29 PM
Anonymous said...: shiloh, Michelle pointed out something you were obviously ignorant of when you wrote your dumb snark ("Heh,heh, they got the wrong date on the magazine.") Of course, pointing out what you are ignorant of is an everyday occurence at Althouse.; 9/23/12, 9:35 PM
chickelit said...: The last time Shilho got anal retentive he looked back and said "Thanks for sharin'..."; 9/23/12, 9:36 PM
shiloh said...: Having once received my July Playboy at the end of May, MDT's "attempted" scholarly tediousness is somewhat amusing. Knowing she goes out of her way w/her way to be tiresome.

As stated previously re: this thread.; 9/23/12, 9:42 PM
KCFleming said...: "All this is not to say that Wolf’s book is entirely worthless. In fact, one section of it is priceless: the story of her experience with the Tantra man."

Hilariously vicious skewering.; 9/23/12, 9:43 PM
Chip S. said...: This one time I'm going to bother to address shilol:

Michelle Dulak Thompson is an accomplished writer of perception and style. You, shilol, are no more consequential to this blog than a mosquito.

I laugh at the foolish presumption of your comment.; 9/23/12, 9:47 PM
shiloh said...: "This one time I'm going to bother to address shilol:"

Don't be so "modest" Chippy as you've replied to several of my posts!

blessings; 9/23/12, 9:49 PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...: shiloh,

Having once received my July Playboy at the end of May, MDT's "attempted" scholarly tediousness is somewhat amusing. Knowing she goes out of her way w/her way to be tiresome.

Hey, look, yet another opportunity to be tedious in a scholarly way! Shiloh, I promise you that my scholarly tediousness never, ever received a Playboy addressed to you. Had it done so, it would have alerted me, and I would have inquired here for your proper address and forwarded the zine on.

But the tediousness is delighted that you found it somewhat amusing, and will do its best to provide further amusement in future.; 9/23/12, 9:50 PM
shiloh said...: "and will do its best to provide further amusement in future."

Re: tedious MDT never disappoints ...; 9/23/12, 9:51 PM
Automatic_Wing said...: This vagina book sounds great, but I think I'll wait for the movie.; 9/23/12, 9:54 PM
YoungHegelian said...: The history of anthropology & historical linguistics has many sad occasions where an ideology -- nationalism, racism, or in this case, feminism --- took precious little evidence & built a conjectural Taj Mahal out of it.

The claims of Neolithic "Earth Goddess" worship fall into just such a category.

You'd be amazed at how much feminism & (Crack's all-tyme favorite) New Age-isms look back on this Edenic fable (every bit the fable as the one in Genesis) as a proper societal end to work towards.

Hey, at the least the Christians & Jews know we can't go back to their Eden.; 9/23/12, 9:54 PM
Michelle Dulak Thomson said...: shiloh,

Re: tedious MDT never disappoints ...

I endeavor to give satisfaction.; 9/23/12, 9:55 PM
shiloh said...: "I endeavor to give satisfaction."

Many try ... few succeed!; 9/23/12, 9:56 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: For Naomi Wolf And Her Ugly Nether-Regioned Neurosis

exiledonmainst,

Crack, your Mormon obsession has apparently rendered your sarcasm detector useless.

I don't know anyone would think I have a "Mormon obsession" when I've covered every religion, cult, belief system, etc., under the sun. Mormonism is just current because of Romney and how little the rest of you know about it, beyond meeting one or two and buying their bullshit.

If anything, it's you guys who are obsessed - with defending cults instead of letting them do it themselves.

Thinks it makes you a "good" person.

Please.

Makes you a bunch of idiots,...; 9/23/12, 9:57 PM
YoungHegelian said...: @shiloh,

Many try ... few succeed!

Look into daily Cialis....****

*** Sorry, man, ordinarily not my style, but I just couldn't resist. Mea maxima culpa, dude.; 9/23/12, 10:02 PM
Anonymous said...: Let's see: shiloh, a man-child in an aging body who is old enough to remember the Nixon adminstration but has the writing style of a mentally disturbed 12 year old thinks Michelle Dulak Thompson is "tedious."

I can see you've cut her to the quick.

Rhetorical. lol.; 9/23/12, 10:03 PM
The Crack Emcee said...: exiledonmainst,

That should've read "I don't know WHY anyone would think I have a 'Mormon obsession'..."

And it occurs to me that many of you know as much about what I do as you do Mormonism. Just as you're wrong to think I'm focused on Mormonism, you're just as wrong about Mormonism. You don't understand either.

It's kinda fascinating,...; 9/23/12, 10:05 PM
shiloh said...: YoungH

Sorry indeed! Much like this thread! :-P; 9/23/12, 10:06 PM
KCFleming said...: I think Naomi Wolf plagiarized the Reader's Digest articleI am Janes's vagina..

Either that, or she was rejected as a submission for Life in These United States.; 9/23/12, 10:09 PM
Anonymous said...: Crack,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm off to bed knowing you think I'm an idiot. Somehow, that does not trouble me in the slightest, O Great Teller of Truths.

Good night and sweet dreams!; 9/23/12, 10:11 PM
Ralph L said...: Having once received my July Playboy at the end of May
They knew it couldn't come too soon for you.

My favorite Florence:

Drunk man at party: I could sure use a little pussy.
Florence: So could I, mine's as big as a bucket.

Several years ago, I gave Confessions of a Failed Southern Lady to my brother's elderly m-i-l without having read it first. Thankfully, she's very broad-minded.; 9/23/12, 10:25 PM
chickelit said...: exiledonmainst wrote:

Rhetorical. lol.

I am so stealing that for my own Shilo impression.; 9/23/12, 10:49 PM
shiloh said...: "I am so stealing that for my own Shilo impression."

Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery notwithstanding, good to know edutcher isn't the only Althouse trained seal!

Trained monkeys are jealous ...; 9/23/12, 11:17 PM
bgates said...: Women were the dominant sex in ancient Rome*?

* Hint: it was considered unmanly for a man to allow a woman to fellate him.

Are you saying women were clearly not the dominant sex because they never had to have dicks in their mouths?; 9/24/12, 1:17 AM
edutcher said...: shiloh said...

Imitation being the sincerest form of flattery notwithstanding, good to know edutcher isn't the only Althouse trained seal!

Yes, I flattered him and his rhetorical and graphic tics so much that, in response to having the idiocy of them shoved down his throat, he's actually trying straight (figuratively, anyway) commentary.

But he's still no Hatman.; 9/24/12, 3:45 AM
Dante said...: Naomi Wolf is like the woman with the nice tits who gathered a following of not so nicely titted women to show off their naked breasts. Remember the red head.; 9/24/12, 6:51 AM
The Crack Emcee said...: exiledonmainst,

Crack,
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

I'm off to bed knowing you think I'm an idiot. Somehow, that does not trouble me in the slightest, O Great Teller of Truths.

And I wish it wasn't just you. It's funny how people are different:

Some, like me, get called idiots and try to "get smart." Narcissists get called idiots and "that does not trouble me in the slightest" - never realizing that's one of the very qualities that makes them idiotic.

Fine. You stay content with yourself, behaving like the fine folks in Rosemary's Baby - defending cultism and making a way for the phenomena to take hold of other's lives - and the life of our country. I'm going to stay like the stars of the latest slate of cult-themed films, and keep trying to FIND A WAY OUT of this nightmare you're so pleased with yourself about participating in.

No, exiledonmainst, you're not an idiot. You're the self-selected gatekeeper to the land of the idiots. Exiled On Main St.? That's a laugh:

Main St.'s being boarded up by the likes of you,...; 9/24/12, 7:15 AM
Dante said...: Crack,

Your point about Mormon cultism, and the lack of attention by many is not lost, it's merely viewed as small potatoes compared to the big major culture war going on. On the one hand you have collectivist Obama and the other you have ideas of individual responsibility, and Romney is the standard bearer for that.

I haven't read all your comments, but I am unaware of any point you've made that shows some irreversible damage would be brought on America by Romney's election to the president.

Obama, I can think of a lot. I can think of a debt already at $51K per every person, and when adjusted for the 47%, it's more like $100K per person.

Frankly, I don't care about Romney's insincerity. Let me agree with you on this. The best thing Romney can do for his cult is to make America more healthy, and not in some flash in the pan way. If that garners the Mormon church some of the parasites, and converts them to cult members paying taxes, guess what? I'm FOR it.

If the cult gets too powerful, the Naomi Wolfs of the world will tear it down. They are doing a pretty good job destroying families, and the Christian faith. I'm sure they would relish a new inconsistent cult to go after (and before you talk about Jones and how the New Agers liked that guy, remember that Mormonism is pretty straight-laced, and is so incompatible with the leftists on so many fronts an alliance would never happen).; 9/24/12, 7:50 AM

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