For three days beginning tomorrow, the cooks will serve only brown rice and other spartan grub instead of the usual menu of organic chicken and vegetables, spaghetti bolognese, and roasted beet and sheep’s-milk-cheese salad.What if everyone suddenly got sick of freeloaders?
They will also provide directions to local soup kitchens for the vagrants, criminals and other freeloaders who have been descending on Zuccotti Park in increasing numbers every day.
October 27, 2011
Occupy Wall Street food servers get sick of the "professional homeless people."
"They know what they’re doing."
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Another slice of occu pie,please.
Remember, everyone!
Boycott J.
But J you misunderstand me. I am fully in support of your hatred of the wasp-mormon mafia that has aligned with the Jewish progressives to hold down the 99% of us who are without power. Just as the brave legions of OWS are fighting against their pernicious influence on our society.
You are fighting the good fight. Keep up the good work.
I am glad you are reporting all of these people to the authorities. I know that our wonderful President will take the proper steps to make sure that they stop getting away with the terrible things they do.
Thank you for your service.
As I wrote here:
--- And why should they be turned away? Cannot anyone who shows up at Zee-Park simply claim 99 percent status and get in the chow line? If not, why not? Well, the answer is easy: OWS is a bunch of commies. And they won't let New York's ordinary underclass join the revolution. The revolution, you see, is only for the "right people," the overwhelmingly white, Gentile sons and daughters of the middle class who want to live freely while others foot the bill.
How this makes them different from the old line of New York's freeloaders and panhandlers is quite beyond me.
Garage, frangelo, Audie Murphy's Mom and J have managed to derail the discussion. The question was "What if everyone suddenly got sick of freeloaders"?
So, 'What if...':
1. Would there be riots in the street?
2. Would the cities get trashed?
3. Would there be widespread starvation?
4. Would it be the end of
a. capitalism
b. democracy
c. the American experiment
d. reliable electric power
e. social services
f. freedom
g. the democratic party
h. free elections
i. liberalism
j. socialism
k. racism
l. ACORN (and its derivatives)
m. the 2nd Amendment
n. wishful thinking
5. Would inevitable bloodshed be followed by a period of healing and growth?
6. Would SCOTUS be a help or a hindrance?
7. Would the issue (or any issue) finally be resolved?
The answer potentially has many dimensions.
C'mon folks, some of the best minds on the web post here. Give the question the attention it deserves. Don't let the usual suspects turn this into a travesty of bickering.
As Ford says, "Focus!"
Remember "gang" that "Tyrone" is a white trash tweeker from Sac (and plagiarist--"Slothrop" a character from a Pynchon novel he's never read), with dozens of names (male,female gay, ethnic,etc) with a history of mental problems. Sac. mental authorities are in fact watching the twisted juvenile freak stalk sites online--he flunked college his first year (and he's many other names on here--Reve., AM's Mom, sorepaw, whoknows what--probably 8-9).
Syn--OWS may have marxist elements but I don't thinkit's marxist (which is usually strictly labor). Many protesters would probably disgree with that assessment
Did the link break?
J don't be like that. You are the best. I love everything you have to say. I just wish you would post here more often.
Thank you for all you do.
No, Audie-troll--opposing Goldman Sachs or Bloomberg or ROmney does not equal supporting Hitler. You're not funny little man, or fooling anyone, or hip, even when trying your ham-fisted hayseed satire. Maybe Best Little Ho-house in Tuscon?Yeah they want you back in AZ.
You really really hurt me when you don't believe I am on your side.
Since I am the Mom of a service member you must believe everything I say. It is in the Cindy Sheehan clause of the internet's bylaws.
I do not live in Arizona. I live in Madison and try to do my little part to help the protesters there.
I do not care if you hate me because I still think you are the best.
Remember "gang" that "Tyrone" is a white trash tweeker from Sac (and plagiarist--"Slothrop" a character from a Pynchon novel he's never read), with dozens of names (male,female gay, ethnic,etc) with a history of mental problems. Sac. mental authorities are in fact watching the twisted juvenile freak stalk sites online--he flunked college his first year (and he's many other names on here--Reve., AM's Mom, sorepaw, whoknows what--probably 8-9).
I don't post under the name Tyrone Slothrop.
And I still have no idea who "Byro" is.
Beat it, troll.
Maunder is a great word. I wish I could use it more. It's also the name of one of my favorite songs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=eXKiracmLHk
For some reason the Left seems to feel empowered to expose its religious bigotry in all its stinking sickness. It’s reminiscent of the “good old boys” telling n-word jokes as they sat on the front porch of the general store. But that was a century ago. The Left is just now catching up to the open exposure of racial, ethnic, religious and class bigotry that characterized Jim Crow before the civil rights movement. It’s a reminder that the hatred of the “other” is a human characteristic that will always crop up unless there is a countervailing force of opinion. At this point, the Left’s enablers in the culture are doing for its group what Bull Conner did for the segregation movement. History repeating itself, this time as farce.
Thats right Tyrone--aka Byro-bozo sorepaw etc ---(wow, you can use bold!)
keep giving us more evidence, druggie, white supremacist garbage. Davis Enterprise staff thanks you too, bozo (And laughing at your white trash garbage as well, perp--as is your puto Billy BOb) hasta la buh bye hijo de puta
Oh damn, I thought this might be an interesting thread, but once again it's nothing more than a political mutual masturbation circle. Boring.
Link not working.
That's a very nice picture of your daughter. She looks sharp in her uniform. :-)
Ace of Spades has the link up, so I found it there.
Cannot anyone who shows up at Zee-Park simply claim 99 percent status...
The 99% is a very exclusive group.
Revenant, I have heard it said that a European is someone who thinks 100 miles is a long distance. An American is someone who thinks 100 years is a long time.
According to the IRS rules.....a forgiveness of debt counts as taxable income and you would be required to pay income tax on that amount.
For example.....you borrowed 100,000 to go to college. Lets say you borrowed it from your local bank or ME. It doesn't matter. You got the money. You used the money.
If I decide that because you are just THAT nice I don't want you to pay me back, and I don't really feel like filing a gift tax return so that I am liable for future taxes....the IRS will then convert the loan to income.
You DID get the money.
So let's DO go back to the tax rules of yore and you get to pay income tax on 100k in one year. Cool huh?
The different socialists often end up hating each other. It's a very distinctive phenomenon - I don't know if it's because socialists are just such good haters in general, or what. The most famous socialist schism is that between the communists and the fascists, but there are many lesser examples. Vladimir Ulyanov used to hang out in coffee houses in Switzerland, penning broadsides blasting the aberrant views of other socialists, and publishing them under pseudonyms - over a hundred, though the only one well-known today is Lenin. That was before the Germans figured out that the worst thing they could do to Russia was to ship Vladimir back to them, and of course the rest is history.
It's nice to see that they're still repeating the errors of history. Of course if they weren't so good at that, they wouldn't be socialists in the first place.
@ franglo ... **laugh**
Thanks. I needed that.
And if you have to ask whether I am laughing with you or at you. Well, don't ask.
Oh damn, I thought this might be an interesting thread,...
To quote my favorite gun blogger, "Remember, I do this to entertain me, not you."
The sun doesn't rise and set in your armpits.
Homelessness is only a problem when there's a Republican in the White House
What I can't figure out is WHY DO THEY NEED US? Why don't the "99%" go form their perfect society? Give the man the finger and put all your theories to the test. I'm a capitalist pig and even I would respect the hell out of that. At least in the '60s some had the guts to try.
What I can't figure out is WHY DO THEY NEED US?
We're their Emmanuel Goldstein.
Oh hey, Garage...
got link?
J is busily Occupying the chip aisle at 7-11 demanding the redistribution of onion dip.
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/45071048/ns/us_news/#.TqotP9R5mSN
The 24-year-old Scott Olsen makes a good living as a network engineer and has a nice apartment overlooking San Francisco Bay. And yet, his friends say, he felt so strongly about economic inequality in the United States that he fought for overseas that he slept at a protest camp after work.
"He felt you shouldn't wait until something is affecting you to get out and do something about it," said friend and roommate Keith Shannon, who served with Olsen in Iraq.
"They know what they're doing."
That's more than you can say about the OWS crowd.
Most people don't demonstrate.
Leftist: Radical reactionary conservative.
"Most people don't demonstrate."
My comment was not meant to point out the fact that the OWS organizers are inept at demonstrating- anyone who decides it is a good idea to stage a prolonged outdoor occupation in the fall, with winter around the corner, is obviously not tactically gifted. It's beyond that.
First you have the irony of self-interested protesters complaining about self-interested homeless folk, all of whom want a free meal. Pot meet kettle.
But more to the point, if you asked a homeless guy why he was at the park he would likely say he wants a free meal.
Ask a protester why they are occupying the park, and you will likely get high-minded platitudes about greed and inequality, but no clear goals; for which they are prepared to stay and fight and freeze all winter if necessary. In other words, they don't know what they are doing; while the homeless are indeed well aware of their motivation.
Just Lurking: I wrote four words. You read and then ran with them. Interesting.
garage mahal said...
Wondering what hotbed of winger journalamamism Jaytard got this one from. Gateway Pundit?
Yes stupid, I think you should go on pretending that OWS hasn't been endorsed by the Nazi & Communist parties.
Really. You should.
PS, the number of rapes & sexual assaults at Tea Party protests still remains at zero. The same can't be said of your "movement" dumbass.
garage mahal said...
Wondering what hotbed of winger journalamamism Jaytard got this one from. Gateway Pundit?
Coming from the guy who links to altnet all the time.
Anyway, remember it isn't a fact if you don't like it, moron!
t’s not an overstatement to describe Zuccotti Park as New York’s Marxist epicenter. Flags with the iconic face of the Marxist revolutionary Che Guevara are everywhere; the only American flag I saw was hanging upside down. The “occupiers” openly refer to each other as “comrade,” and just about every piece of literature on offer (free or for sale) advocated socialism in the Marxist tradition as a cure-all for the inequalities of the American economic system.
Carry on in your delusions now.
How is sleeping overnight in a park helping anybody? That's the weird cultural thing about it. I can think of hundreds of ways to actually respond to people in need, or respond to government inequality.
Making empty gestures is among the weirder choices to make when actually seeking to help real people. But, it's so culturally ingrained that standing there holding a sign or sleeping somewhere different is an Act of Defiance, that it's actually equated with making some kind of positive change.
What a waste of talent and energy that could actually be turned to helping someone else's real life be positively changed.
Just Lurking: I wrote four words. You read and then ran with them. Interesting.
It's called having a dialogue. I assumed you were attempting to have one with me. I was aware that my assumption and/or my interpretation of your four words could be wrong, but I figured you'd let me know if that was the case, as part of a dialogue between two rational human beings.
I don't know what got into me.
Well, I'm certain this thread is dead, but FYI -
Allie gives us a report beginning: "The 24 year old Scott Olsen makes a good living. . . "
Would that be the same Scott Olsen who is the founder of the website www.ihatethemarinecorps.com, Allie? Today's Gateway Pundit certainly thinks so. But you don't have to believe me. Go look for yourself.
Alex: Your rant "Alex said...
Ask yourself why you disparage homeless people. Typical conservative with no compassion for the downtrodden, but scream bloody murder when people want to raise the tax rates on the filthy rich a bit." is a bit rich and over the top.
Calling the homeless "professional" is so ironic. The term came about because wealthy, entitled pricks wanted to win Olympics without having to compete with poor working class stiffs who had to sell their athletic skills to live. So now the term is used once more, against the poor to hold them down.
Further, the liberal press machinery, and all those who repeat its lies, tell us the homeless are downtrodden victims of circumstances beyond their own control. While that may be true of some members of the homeless population in every town, in those same towns are men and women who choose a life of homelessness. They enjoy their drug addictions and alcoholism and crime. They are in a vicious cycle, but they aren't interested in breaking out. Help has always been available for those who want out of that lifestyle. For those there because they are victims, I have worked at a community meal service, feeding the poor and homeless. For the victims, I have donated money to organizations who try to help. But those COWS* mobs are, at best, misguided leeches. At worst they are radicals and revolutionaries who want to destroy this country and capitalism.
*(Crowd occupying Wall Street, which denigrates all the good cows in the world)
Calling the homeless "professional" is so ironic.
Not really.
An acquaintance of mine works with the homeless. She informed me that the chronically homeless fall into two groups:
(1): People with mental illnesses and/or (usually and) substance abuse problems that prevent them from functioning in society.
(2): Con artists who scam money and food off people because it is easier than working. Those folks you see with the "homeless veteran, need help" signs? Most of them are in this group. These are the "professional homeless".
Well, Revenant, I think your (1) and (2) match my descriptions, but more precisely and succinctly. Absolutely: homeless are either real victims or those who prefer that lifestyle. Your number 2 are professionals.
The irony is in the origin of the term "professional" as opposed to "amateur". These designations came about because entitled wealthy sportsmen didn't want to compete with poor athletes, who needed to be paid. Thus, if an gifted but poor athlete had received compensation for demonstrating their athleticism, they were disqualified from competing in the Olympics. Let's say a poor youth had won a monetary prize for winning a race. Now they are "professional", and ineligible to compete as amateurs. Our Wall Street Occupiers are once again using the designation to disqualify others.
They can serve brown rice and broccoli stems as long as they want. The victim homeless might be willing to eat that. As soon as they go back to goat cheese quiche the professional homeless will be back.
Thats right Tyrone--aka Byro-bozo sorepaw etc ---(wow, you can use bold!)
keep giving us more evidence, druggie, white supremacist garbage. Davis Enterprise staff thanks you too, bozo (And laughing at your white trash garbage as well, perp--as is your puto Billy BOb) hasta la buh bye hijo de puta
I'm not Tyrone.
Tyrone isn't me.
And I still have no idea who the hell Byro is.
Or whether Byro has ever existed.
Outtahere, troll.
I agree with Carnifex that we are witnessing the end of an Old Order.
Fascism was wiped out by World War II.
Since the destruction of the Berlin Wall, nothing is left of Communism but a couple of tottering dictatorships.
Now the Welfare State is beginning its death spiral.
The transnational environmental movement is also hurting.
I don't agree with Carnifex on causes, however:
For Socialism, and Communism to work, all people who engage in it must be saints.
Human beings aren't saints.
But even a society of saints can't successfully centrally plan an economy, or solve the "calculation problem" after doing away with a market for factors of production.
Socialism and Communism can't achieve their proclaimed goals, period.
But the birth that's coming. It is going to tear our world apart, bursting forth in a hail of bullets and blood, and utopians.
The end of Fascism was extraordinarily bloody.
There was plenty of blood shed during the "Cold War" (think of the death toll in Korea), but the fall of the Soviet Union was nearly bloodless.
We could have a largely peaceful transition away from the Welfare State and transnational environmentalism.
This depends on whether their proponents are willing to acknowledge their unsustainability.
The crazies and street people who are part of the movement deserve to be there, deserve to be seen. For they bear inarticulate witness to the inequities the movement is protesting. Of course, they didn’t all end up there because of society’s sins; bad choices and personal responsibility also played a role. They’re not the best spokesmen for the movement. But they, too, are part of the America that the movement is trying to make better. They, too, are our brothers.
That isn’t liberal swill. It comes from a book called the Bible.
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"
That is America, not this arrogant display of stupidity i see all over the mainstream media. We are all Americans how dare you treat your fellow citizens with disdain.
I seem to recall a recent study where people didn't mind being generous for the poor if they felt that the help was going to the truly needy. When people felt charity was going to slackers sucking off the system, they were less generous. (Nice illiteration there: "... slackers sucking off the system." Maybe "system sucking slackers" would be better.)
The truly needy: people with mental health issues, few resources and no family to help are one thing. Professional beggars are another. Something like those who won't work don't get to eat.
Milwaukee:
There's an ongoing problem with "people feeling" and "truly needy." Think it over: consider that1
Some feel one way, some feel another. Lots of feelings. Many sorts of agenda having to do with "needy," "truly," and "truly needy," for example.
When my children were little we took the time to teach them the difference between "want" and "need". Recently I was teaching a lesson about rational functions, and I said "We want, no we need to know where the denominator is zero. You should have been taught the difference." One of my students said she hadn't. My brilliant, sure to be endearing comment was "Oh, now we're in Pretty-Pretty-Princess territory." That wasn't meant as a compliment.
Milwaukee: Almost nowhere am I more of a precise bitch than when demanding exacting math while homeschooling my child.
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