It's funny/sad how dumb some people are, and how easy it is to sell to them. And, it's funny/sad how they have to engage in "liberal" rituals as a way of showing they're part of the in-group and in order to temporarily purge their inner demons.
I'm having a premonition: Barack Obama, a few months from now-
"I've spent many long nights, with my closest advisers and it is now clear to us, that the solution to this huge mess we are in economically- Is a 'New Deal II' of sorts, we need to prevent this problem from ever occurring again, by Harmonizing regionally with our closest allies in the NAFTA territories, we need to expand trade and Integrate logistically all of the redundant industries that we share."
The sentiments expressed in those two posters for all to see and to be spread even here are proof positive that Bush and Cheney in no way shredded the Constitution as is constantly being blared so noisily and constantly into my tender ears. This makes me so angry. Grrrrr. I'm forced to go off and scrape a vanilla bean and make some banana pudding!
As Ann surely knows, this being Madison the persons that made those posters were probably McKinney or Nader supporters. They are the fringe that exist on the left and the right.
I don't know if W was the worst president or not, or even especially bad. I will say absolutely that when he was in the office the country needed a better one.
"I will say absolutely that when he was in the office the country needed a better one."
One who actually did suspend habeas corpus, or expelled a former congressman from the country. Too bad for all the lefties that Lincoln was apparently before his time. OTOH, perhaps you meant a President who would send the Other to concentration camps. Oops, not Bush again! Where's FDR when we need him...
His rivals for the honor didn't have eight years of screw ups.
Plus Bush gave us Obama.
You don't have to be a lefty to know Bush is a fuck up artist.
That said I strongly dislike the lefty Bush haters. But they're just pests. Bush on the other hand had the power, made lots of bad decisions, devastated the Republican party and now has created a liberal Democratic one party government.
Combined with the cultural leftism of the media it doesn't look very good.
Yah, how about those Liberal Democrats: where's FDR when you need him.
Let's bring back unconstitutional, completely racist Japanese internment and an absolute refusal to sign a ban on lynching in the South.
That's right: George W. Bush-greatest threat to civil liberties in our time. I read it in the New York Times. Or on an Althouse thread. Whichever came first.
THis is the propaganda that the liberal illuminati have fed us and now we are buying hook line and sinker. They have set up Obama as a national hero, not JUST the predident. We are in for a major let down. Even if he does some good things, which i hope he does, he can't be the hero we have been sold.
One doesn't need to call him a thief, nor drawn him as a vampire bat...just call him what he is- a complete and utter failure. Just slip into the quiet mists of history, Mr. Bush.
Bush is a complete and utter failure. I guess that is why we have had numerous terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11 and US forces lost to the insurgency in Iraq.
Yes, a complete and utter failure, I can see it now. I see how he utterly failed to prevent another direct attack against the United States on our soil, how he failed to rid the planet of a despicable despot and failed to prevent his sons from continuing a despotic dynasty. Failed to do what the entire United Nations so successfully did. The failure of turning a country into one with a representative government at least friendly to the US instead of hostile to it is clear to me now. How he failed to discredit Al Qaeda has become so pellucidly transparently clear to me now that you drive that point yet again. It's finally hit me how he's failed my wildest liberal aspirations.
True. Unfortunately the Republicans controlled the House and Senate for most of W.'s Presidency, until the 2006 elections.
Can a few of you enumerate specifically why GWB is the Worst. President.Ever. ?
Deficit spending. Cutting taxes, then going to war. Administration policies that shipped so many dollars overseas that the dollar decreased 50% against the Euro, and the price of oil doubled and tripled. Economic policies that resulted in every source of wealth decreasing from beginning to end of his Presidency: Stocks down, bonds down, real estate holding its own. Zero regulation of credit default swaps and other derivatives, which put more money at risk than the gross national product of the universe.
The repercussions from the derivatives industry are unimaginable, and are yet to be felt. The biggest indication so far is the absorption of $125 billion dollars of taxpayer funds by ONE company, AIG, with no end in sight.
So, the right thing to do would have been to raise taxes and then go to war, or lower taxes and ignore attacks on us?
Administration policies that shipped so many dollars overseas that the dollar decreased 50% against the Euro, and the price of oil doubled and tripled.
Your antecedent is backed by anything, and even if true, isn't necessarily the cause of what you say. After all, oil is down and the dollar is back up.
Economic policies that resulted in every source of wealth decreasing from beginning to end of his Presidency: Stocks down, bonds down, real estate holding its own.
And Bush managed to do that? All by himself?
Zero regulation of credit default swaps and other derivatives, which put more money at risk than the gross national product of the universe.
I'd suggest that the people who put the money at risk were the people making the investments. Crazy talk, I know.
The repercussions from the derivatives industry are unimaginable, and are yet to be felt. The biggest indication so far is the absorption of $125 billion dollars of taxpayer funds by ONE company, AIG, with no end in sight.
Of course, Bush is acquiescing to all kinds of things. You figure Congress has no responsibility in any of this?
I didn't vote for the guy; I disagree with almost everything he did, and find fault with almost everything else. And you're not at all convincing.
Yes, there hasn't been an attack. However, there's no way to tell whether that was because of or despite Bush.
Meanwhile, even KarlRove admits that Bush is responsible for allowing millions of illegal aliens to move here, something that has given a foreign government a great deal of actual political power inside our country. In fact, Bush has actively encouraged that through various programs.
And, there's the NO hurricane. Instead of some sort of make-work program to get residents to rebuild their own city, Bush moved the residents out and allowed illegal aliens to move in. That enriched connected contractors and the MexicanGovernment, but everyone else got royally screwed. Instead of working, the former residents' dependencies were deepened. Rebuilding money was sent out of the country instead of being spent here. The health effects on, for instance, underage illegal aliens working without safety equipment, will have long-term costs. And, many more, including the fact that some sort of make-work program would have completely undercut the Dems.
And this is also why so many of us have been viewing the Democrats in Congress as near traitors.
What is their excuse? Bush didn't tell them what to do nicely enough? Are they adults or not? Can they decide what is right and what is important to our country or not?
But what they seem to have been doing is trying to see everything possible fail... they wanted the war to fail... can they be assumed to have cared about the economy of this country over making sure Bush looked bad?
Why is "Bush wasn't a leader" a legitimate excuse for anyone?
For eight years half our team sat on their hands and *refused* to help. They refused to support victory in Iraq *or* Afghanistan because it was more important to oppose Bush than lend efforts in areas they *did* agree on. And now Obama's administration is going to carry on practically the same policies, so why not help before? Because it was *Bush's* war and they wanted him to fail. The economy... something that Democrats consider themselves strong on, as all domestic issues are considered Democratic strong points (from their point of view) could have been something even those opposing the war in Iraq could have put their efforts to. But no... half our team, half the brains and half the players, were more interested in being seen to oppose Bush and make their fringe constituents happy.
And then they get to use the excuse that Bush didn't provide good leadership? When they undermined him at every turn? (Or at least made a show of undermining him.)
A Congress full of middle school and high school students with their popularity games and political in-fighting would have done a better job of acting like adults.
Hitler was worse than Bush. I'll grant you that. It'll be up to historians to render a verdict on his failed presidency and to put a figure on roughly how many people he has destroyed and will continue to destroy with the 2nd Great Depression that he saddled the country with. Bush, you are the weakest link! Good-bye!
JAL said... Can a few of you enumerate specifically why GWB is the Worst. President.Ever. ?Warning: I.Am.Older.Than.Most.of.You. And remember."
Remember what? George Washington? The Constitutional Convention? The Constitution? Goebels? Quiseling? Magna Carta?
What do you remember? Being old isn't wisdom is it? If you lived through the great depresssion and liked it then you'll just cherish the memory of GWB.
Why is "Bush wasn't a leader" a legitimate excuse for anyone?
Because for six years, Bush had Republican majorities in the House and Senate. Because Bush squandered his good will on tax cuts for the fat cats who put him in office -- his nomination was sewed up in 1999 -- and on the war in Iraq, which was meant to show that he could finish the job his Daddy started.
knowitall said..."The reason people call him a thief is because the elitist illuminati in Congress have blamed him for everything."
Yeah, that's it. His dismal record and approval rating had nothing to do with blunder after blunder...it was all the fault of the "illuminati"??? in Congress??
*By the way: It was a Republican "illuminati" Congress for 6 of his eight years running the show so what in the world is your point? (And I don't mean the one on top of your head.)
Historians in 2050: George W Bush ranked in top 10 Presidents.
Based on the FACTS.
Remarks by people looking at michael and hdhouse and trumpit in 2050:
"They were as stupid in their time as the pro-slavery Lincoln-haters were in Lincoln's time. What idiots. Let's not let their children be involved in anything serious, since recent science has verified that all stupidity is hereditary.
FLS, what you're essentially saying is that it's okay to use the excuse that Bush wasn't a "leader" because the Democrats were a minority?
So just how much working against the interests of the United States is legitimate for the now-minority Republicans?
Should I be cheering for the last Al Franken recount so that Republicans are entirely off the hook and can undertake the active undermining of the Obama administration, the slander of our country overseas, and all the same sorts of antics the Democrats did so long as they say Obama isn't much of a leader and besides, he's got the majority? Or should I hope that they behave like adults? No pandering to the sorts burning Obama effigies? Or will the claim be that the opposition acting like adults simply means that Obama is good and Bush was bad?
It's circular thinking.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing.
Now they've got no excuse.
And if they don't suddenly remember how to actually get things done and if they aren't *happy* to do so without Republican help... well tough tooties.
Maybe the Republicans can engineer a disaster so that next political cycle they can point to the failed policies of the Obama administration.
Sounds fair... but I hope not, because I love my country and don't think that watching her burn is worth a political victory.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing They did put the coffin lid on the Big 3 with the new CAFE standards. Now they'll use our money to keep UAW jobs going a little longer.
My point is, I think it's unfair and politically "convenient" for his detractors to deny him credit for preventing further attacks... while blaming him for everything bad that has occurred under his watch.
prove that one equates to the other or its just coincidence.
Of course you can't prove direct correlation, but I don't believe a president's actions occur in a vacuum.
You are assuming I think Bush is purely perfect, as much as you purely hate him. I don't.
Check your history. The Republicans did not have control of the Senate in the first half of Bush's first term, thanks to the senator from Vermont.
The Democrats did all they could through legislation and leaking to the media to undercut the Bush presidency for 6 years. Then they did nothing for 2 years while in control of the Congress and Senate and blamed it all on Bush. Now we are all supposed to play nice and sing Kumbaya with a Democrat in the White House who really doesn't have a clue. Instead he campaigns on one thing and then all of a sudden realizes that the policies that his party has been dissing for 8 years are really the ones that should be followed. Amazing how they finally realize that the dummy they complained about for 8 years and who told them for 7 of those 8 years that the economy needed attention on their part was right all along.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing.
They got the increased oversight for Fannie and Freddie that Chuck Hagel and Libby Dole wanted, yet the Republicans could not move out of the committee Richard Shelby (R-Ala) had controlled, despite John McCain's endorsement.
The Republicans did not have control of the Senate in the first half of Bush's first term
The Dems gave W. tax cuts for his fellow fat cats. Plus they backed his invasion of a sovereign nation which had never harmed us. And they agreed to give up some of our liberties in the name of safety by passing the Patriot Act.
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Long live George W Bush!
I wonder how long it will be before America will wish Bush was back.
A piercing cobalt blue sky above will never notice
The red hot rantings of the hairy hominids below.
Yep. Bush got what was coming to him. Turned out of office after only 8 years.
Power to the People!
The regime has done pretty well for two hundred and twenty years, so far.
I really wish these dipshits would go live in a real totalitarian state and then get back to us.
Typical lefty morons. Same types who think 'roughing it' is a hotel without room service and a jacuzzi.
Hoosier,
LOL!!!!
Contrary to the intent, you know any young kids looking at that poster will say to themselves "wow, where did Bush get those cool-ass bat wings?"
Those poster makers miss him already.
There's still time for Bush to suspend the Constitution!
10ksnooker said...
I wonder how long it will be before America will wish Bush was back.
Seriously, what is it you are going to miss about him?
It's funny/sad how dumb some people are, and how easy it is to sell to them. And, it's funny/sad how they have to engage in "liberal" rituals as a way of showing they're part of the in-group and in order to temporarily purge their inner demons.
Someone else recently linked to this post from me, and said:
I'm having a premonition: Barack Obama, a few months from now-
"I've spent many long nights, with my closest advisers and it is now clear to us, that the solution to this huge mess we are in economically- Is a 'New Deal II' of sorts, we need to prevent this problem from ever occurring again, by Harmonizing regionally with our closest allies in the NAFTA territories, we need to expand trade and Integrate logistically all of the redundant industries that we share."
Worst.President.Ever.
There's still time for Bush to suspend the Constitution!
Blake, he ALREADY DID!
Ohio is not Madison pic from Nov 10.
The sentiments expressed in those two posters for all to see and to be spread even here are proof positive that Bush and Cheney in no way shredded the Constitution as is constantly being blared so noisily and constantly into my tender ears. This makes me so angry. Grrrrr. I'm forced to go off and scrape a vanilla bean and make some banana pudding!
"Worst.President.Ever."
Person. Not. Old. Enough. To. Remember. Carter.
Ten. Worst. Presidents.
"Worst.President.Ever."
Person. Not. Bright. Enough. To. Study. History.
As Ann surely knows, this being Madison the persons that made those posters were probably McKinney or Nader supporters. They are the fringe that exist on the left and the right.
Posters from
THE PEOPLE'S REPUBLIC OF MADISON,
the home of some of those wonderful people who blew up Sterling Hall,
and killed a father of 3.
The "Regime Change At Last" and "For Rent" posters concisely summarize the Obama campaign.
I don't know if W was the worst president or not, or even especially bad.
I will say absolutely that when he was in the office the country needed a better one.
I will say absolutely that when he was in the office the country needed a better one.
You can certainly say it. Doesn't make it true.
I think we needed a better Congress, myself.
"I will say absolutely that when he was in the office the country needed a better one."
One who actually did suspend habeas corpus, or expelled a former congressman from the country. Too bad for all the lefties that Lincoln was apparently before his time. OTOH, perhaps you meant a President who would send the Other to concentration camps. Oops, not Bush again! Where's FDR when we need him...
Bush is the worst President ever, no doubt.
His rivals for the honor didn't have eight years of screw ups.
Plus Bush gave us Obama.
You don't have to be a lefty to know Bush is a fuck up artist.
That said I strongly dislike the lefty Bush haters. But they're just pests. Bush on the other hand had the power, made lots of bad decisions, devastated the Republican party and now has created a liberal Democratic one party government.
Combined with the cultural leftism of the media it doesn't look very good.
I like Sarah Palin but President is a man's job.
Romney 2012.
Yah, how about those Liberal Democrats: where's FDR when you need him.
Let's bring back unconstitutional, completely racist Japanese internment and an absolute refusal to sign a ban on lynching in the South.
That's right: George W. Bush-greatest threat to civil liberties in our time. I read it in the New York Times. Or on an Althouse thread. Whichever came first.
I dislike Romney almost as much as I dislike Obama.
The bollocks/phoniness quotient is off the mark with both of these individuals.
THis is the propaganda that the liberal illuminati have fed us and now we are buying hook line and sinker. They have set up Obama as a national hero, not JUST the predident. We are in for a major let down. Even if he does some good things, which i hope he does, he can't be the hero we have been sold.
"Worst.President.Ever."
Only.Stupid.Person.Judges.Now.
Heh. Children. Aren't they cute?
It must be tiresome living in a college town.
"I like Sarah Palin but President is a man's job."
Then it's too bad Obama won, isn't it?
One doesn't need to call him a thief, nor drawn him as a vampire bat...just call him what he is- a complete and utter failure.
Just slip into the quiet mists of history, Mr. Bush.
Bush is a complete and utter failure. I guess that is why we have had numerous terrorist attacks on US soil since 9-11 and US forces lost to the insurgency in Iraq.
Bush critics "DUMBEST CRITIC EVER!!"
Yes, a complete and utter failure, I can see it now. I see how he utterly failed to prevent another direct attack against the United States on our soil, how he failed to rid the planet of a despicable despot and failed to prevent his sons from continuing a despotic dynasty. Failed to do what the entire United Nations so successfully did. The failure of turning a country into one with a representative government at least friendly to the US instead of hostile to it is clear to me now. How he failed to discredit Al Qaeda has become so pellucidly transparently clear to me now that you drive that point yet again. It's finally hit me how he's failed my wildest liberal aspirations.
Help me out here.
Can a few of you enumerate specifically why GWB is the Worst. President.Ever. ?
And simply saying he took the USA to war in Iraq isn't going to cut it.
Warning: I.Am.Older.Than.Most.of.You. And remember.
I think we needed a better Congress, myself.
True. Unfortunately the Republicans controlled the House and Senate for most of W.'s Presidency, until the 2006 elections.
Can a few of you enumerate specifically why GWB is the Worst. President.Ever. ?
Deficit spending. Cutting taxes, then going to war. Administration policies that shipped so many dollars overseas that the dollar decreased 50% against the Euro, and the price of oil doubled and tripled. Economic policies that resulted in every source of wealth decreasing from beginning to end of his Presidency: Stocks down, bonds down, real estate holding its own. Zero regulation of credit default swaps and other derivatives, which put more money at risk than the gross national product of the universe.
The repercussions from the derivatives industry are unimaginable, and are yet to be felt. The biggest indication so far is the absorption of $125 billion dollars of taxpayer funds by ONE company, AIG, with no end in sight.
>>Deficit spending.
Hardly the first.
>> Cutting taxes,
Seldom a bad thing
>> then going to war.
So, the right thing to do would have been to raise taxes and then go to war, or lower taxes and ignore attacks on us?
Administration policies that shipped so many dollars overseas
that the dollar decreased 50% against the Euro, and the price of oil doubled and tripled.
Your antecedent is backed by anything, and even if true, isn't necessarily the cause of what you say. After all, oil is down and the dollar is back up.
Economic policies that resulted in every source of wealth decreasing from beginning to end of his Presidency: Stocks down, bonds down, real estate holding its own.
And Bush managed to do that? All by himself?
Zero regulation of credit default swaps and other derivatives, which put more money at risk than the gross national product of the universe.
I'd suggest that the people who put the money at risk were the people making the investments. Crazy talk, I know.
The repercussions from the derivatives industry are unimaginable, and are yet to be felt. The biggest indication so far is the absorption of $125 billion dollars of taxpayer funds by ONE company, AIG, with no end in sight.
Of course, Bush is acquiescing to all kinds of things. You figure Congress has no responsibility in any of this?
I didn't vote for the guy; I disagree with almost everything he did, and find fault with almost everything else. And you're not at all convincing.
Chip Ahoy:
Yes, there hasn't been an attack. However, there's no way to tell whether that was because of or despite Bush.
Meanwhile, even KarlRove admits that Bush is responsible for allowing millions of illegal aliens to move here, something that has given a foreign government a great deal of actual political power inside our country. In fact, Bush has actively encouraged that through various programs.
And, there's the NO hurricane. Instead of some sort of make-work program to get residents to rebuild their own city, Bush moved the residents out and allowed illegal aliens to move in. That enriched connected contractors and the MexicanGovernment, but everyone else got royally screwed. Instead of working, the former residents' dependencies were deepened. Rebuilding money was sent out of the country instead of being spent here. The health effects on, for instance, underage illegal aliens working without safety equipment, will have long-term costs. And, many more, including the fact that some sort of make-work program would have completely undercut the Dems.
There's a reason why I called Bush a quisling.
You figure Congress has no responsibility in any of this?
It's called leadership. W. didn't have it.
W.'s second biggest problem was he was in way over his head.
Sure it's called leadership.
And this is also why so many of us have been viewing the Democrats in Congress as near traitors.
What is their excuse? Bush didn't tell them what to do nicely enough? Are they adults or not? Can they decide what is right and what is important to our country or not?
But what they seem to have been doing is trying to see everything possible fail... they wanted the war to fail... can they be assumed to have cared about the economy of this country over making sure Bush looked bad?
Why is "Bush wasn't a leader" a legitimate excuse for anyone?
For eight years half our team sat on their hands and *refused* to help. They refused to support victory in Iraq *or* Afghanistan because it was more important to oppose Bush than lend efforts in areas they *did* agree on. And now Obama's administration is going to carry on practically the same policies, so why not help before? Because it was *Bush's* war and they wanted him to fail. The economy... something that Democrats consider themselves strong on, as all domestic issues are considered Democratic strong points (from their point of view) could have been something even those opposing the war in Iraq could have put their efforts to. But no... half our team, half the brains and half the players, were more interested in being seen to oppose Bush and make their fringe constituents happy.
And then they get to use the excuse that Bush didn't provide good leadership? When they undermined him at every turn? (Or at least made a show of undermining him.)
A Congress full of middle school and high school students with their popularity games and political in-fighting would have done a better job of acting like adults.
Hitler was worse than Bush. I'll grant you that. It'll be up to historians to render a verdict on his failed presidency and to put a figure on roughly how many people he has destroyed and will continue to destroy with the
2nd Great Depression that he saddled the country with. Bush, you are the weakest link! Good-bye!
10ksnooker said...
I wonder how long it will be before America will wish Bush was back.
Um...never.
10ksnooker said...
I wonder how long it will be before America will wish Bush was back."
Frankly, I'd give it some time...perhaps 1984 or so.
Hoosier Daddy said...
I really wish these dipshits would go live in a real totalitarian state and then get back to us."
ohhhh but we have been for 8 years...where have you been?
god this is toooo easy today.
JAL said...
Can a few of you enumerate specifically why GWB is the Worst. President.Ever. ?Warning: I.Am.Older.Than.Most.of.You. And remember."
Remember what? George Washington? The Constitutional Convention? The Constitution? Goebels? Quiseling? Magna Carta?
What do you remember? Being old isn't wisdom is it? If you lived through the great depresssion and liked it then you'll just cherish the memory of GWB.
Yes, there hasn't been an attack. However, there's no way to tell whether that was because of or despite Bush.
convenient!
knox....and there hasn't been a herd of elephants in my back yard in 8 years now. is that also a result of mr. bush's african policy?
i agree with you. prove that one equates to the other or its just coincidence. 9/11 was during his predidency so he isn't spotless.
Why is "Bush wasn't a leader" a legitimate excuse for anyone?
Because for six years, Bush had Republican majorities in the House and Senate. Because Bush squandered his good will on tax cuts for the fat cats who put him in office -- his nomination was sewed up in 1999 -- and on the war in Iraq, which was meant to show that he could finish the job his Daddy started.
The reason people call him a thief is because the elitist illuminati in Congress have blamed him for everything.
knowitall said..."The reason people call him a thief is because the elitist illuminati in Congress have blamed him for everything."
Yeah, that's it. His dismal record and approval rating had nothing to do with blunder after blunder...it was all the fault of the "illuminati"??? in Congress??
*By the way: It was a Republican "illuminati" Congress for 6 of his eight years running the show so what in the world is your point? (And I don't mean the one on top of your head.)
And the Bush sycophants march on...and on...and on.
When will you fools give it up and admit this man has been a major disaster for our country and the world?
Anyone know what Truman's approval rating was when he left office?
michael and hdhouse and trumpit =
OPINION.
Historians in 2050: George W Bush ranked in top 10 Presidents.
Based on the FACTS.
Remarks by people looking at michael and hdhouse and trumpit in 2050:
"They were as stupid in their time as the pro-slavery Lincoln-haters were in Lincoln's time. What idiots. Let's not let their children be involved in anything serious, since recent science has verified that all stupidity is hereditary.
FLS, what you're essentially saying is that it's okay to use the excuse that Bush wasn't a "leader" because the Democrats were a minority?
So just how much working against the interests of the United States is legitimate for the now-minority Republicans?
Should I be cheering for the last Al Franken recount so that Republicans are entirely off the hook and can undertake the active undermining of the Obama administration, the slander of our country overseas, and all the same sorts of antics the Democrats did so long as they say Obama isn't much of a leader and besides, he's got the majority? Or should I hope that they behave like adults? No pandering to the sorts burning Obama effigies? Or will the claim be that the opposition acting like adults simply means that Obama is good and Bush was bad?
It's circular thinking.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing.
Now they've got no excuse.
And if they don't suddenly remember how to actually get things done and if they aren't *happy* to do so without Republican help... well tough tooties.
Maybe the Republicans can engineer a disaster so that next political cycle they can point to the failed policies of the Obama administration.
Sounds fair... but I hope not, because I love my country and don't think that watching her burn is worth a political victory.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing
They did put the coffin lid on the Big 3 with the new CAFE standards. Now they'll use our money to keep UAW jobs going a little longer.
hd,
Not sure I understand your point.
My point is, I think it's unfair and politically "convenient" for his detractors to deny him credit for preventing further attacks... while blaming him for everything bad that has occurred under his watch.
prove that one equates to the other or its just coincidence.
Of course you can't prove direct correlation, but I don't believe a president's actions occur in a vacuum.
You are assuming I think Bush is purely perfect, as much as you purely hate him. I don't.
FLS,
Check your history. The Republicans did not have control of the Senate in the first half of Bush's first term, thanks to the senator from Vermont.
The Democrats did all they could through legislation and leaking to the media to undercut the Bush presidency for 6 years. Then they did nothing for 2 years while in control of the Congress and Senate and blamed it all on Bush. Now we are all supposed to play nice and sing Kumbaya with a Democrat in the White House who really doesn't have a clue. Instead he campaigns on one thing and then all of a sudden realizes that the policies that his party has been dissing for 8 years are really the ones that should be followed. Amazing how they finally realize that the dummy they complained about for 8 years and who told them for 7 of those 8 years that the economy needed attention on their part was right all along.
The Democrats got the majority two years ago and did nothing.
They got the increased oversight for Fannie and Freddie that Chuck Hagel and Libby Dole wanted, yet the Republicans could not move out of the committee Richard Shelby (R-Ala) had controlled, despite John McCain's endorsement.
The Republicans did not have control of the Senate in the first half of Bush's first term
The Dems gave W. tax cuts for his fellow fat cats. Plus they backed his invasion of a sovereign nation which had never harmed us. And they agreed to give up some of our liberties in the name of safety by passing the Patriot Act.
And they agreed to give up some of our liberties in the name of safety by passing the Patriot Act.
Exactly which liberties do you not have today, FLS, that you had on January 20, 2000?
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