October 2, 2008

Live-blogging the VP debate.

7:31, Central Time: I'm here, eating strozzapreti with burned tomato sauce, counting the last few minutes before the grand showdown.

7:39: Strozzapreti? "Priest choker"!

7:55: Are you going to watch on CNN, with the uncommitted viewers' reaction lines undulating at the bottom of the screen? Wow. That's crazy! I can't tolerate that distraction, and the "persuadable" voters they've assembled are... not people I feel like monitoring on a real-time basis.

7:58: What are you looking for, mainly? Honestly, I'm mainly looking to see if Sarah Palin can sound reasonably competent.

8:02: The 2 candidates stride out, both dressed in black. "Hey, can I call you Joe?" we hear Sarah say. Palin looks tiny behind her lectern. She's behind her lectern there, and here's where I am, chez Althouse:

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8:06: Palin's flag pin is way bigger than Biden's. Biden has a brown dot on his forehead. Palin refers to "the fundamental" of our economy. She's speaking too quickly, sounding nervous.

8:09: Whose fault is the sub-prime mortgage meltdown? Palin says the moneylenders have taken advantage of people, and she mentions "hockey moms" a second time. Biden blames Republican deregulation. Biden's forehead wrinkles only way over on the side, while the whole center is smooth and flat. What do you think? Botox?

8:13: Palin says she might not answer the questions the way the monitor wants, but she's going to talk straight to the American people. She reveals her overarching strategy. And I note that she's speaking clearly and confidently. There is no stumbling or fear, as far as I can see.

8:19: Joe Biden is going to "eliminate those wasteful spending."

8:27: I'll bet a lot of people are tuning out about now, satisfied that Palin is competent and smart, but pretty bored.

8:29: I'm reading Andrew Sullivan: "Biden is just dreadful. He speaks in Washingtonese. She just issues the soundbites and wrinkles her eyes and tells stories. And that works. The speed and chirpiness she delivers overwhelms one's ability to even quite absorb what she's saying. And it has put Biden off-stride. It's Biden who seems over-crammed." It seems to me that both of them are spewing policy (and it's getting tiresome). "Chirpiness"... I don't know, Andrew... that reads as sexist to me. Why is she overwhelming your ability to absorb what she's saying? Is she working some voodoo on you... and on Biden?

8:34: Palin said "Senator O'Biden."

8:35: Palin razzes Biden on clean coal. Is he for it or not? Biden says he's for it, and his rope-line comment was about his support for exporting clean coal technology to China. That doesn't seem to fit the text of his remark (which he claims was "taken out of context").

8:37: Biden passionately expresses support for equal treatment for same-sex couples, and Palin opposes same-sex marriage, but says that in all other ways she's completely tolerant of adults forming their own relationships. Biden then is given the opportunity to disavow gay marriage, which he eagerly does. Okaaaay.

8:40: Palin is praising the surge and insisting on victory in Iraq. "It would be a travesty if we quit now." Biden complains that she didn't state a plan. On the split screen, when Biden is speaking, Palin looks like she's brimming with ideas she's just waiting to express. When she gets her turn, she says Biden's plan is a "white flag of surrender." She reminds Biden of how much he supported McCain and how he said Obama was not ready to be President.

8:49: Biden is mugging and scratching his neck in an exaggerated way. I think he was trying to signal his objection to the things Palin was saying about Obama's willingness to sit down with Ahmadinejad.

8:51: Biden's heating up! Is he losing his temper?

8:55: At Drudge:



8:57: Well, let me ask:

Who's winning?
Palin.
Biden.
It's not about winning and losing in the debate.
Shut up! It's not over.
pollcode.com free polls


9:03: Palin enthuses over her Washington outsider status as she claims to hear Biden saying, essentially, I was for it before I was against it.

9:09: "Palin: 'Oh, man, it's so obvious that I'm a Washington outsider and just not used to the way you guys operate!' And then, Biden pats down his brow. On sheer theatrics, Palin definitely won that moment." LOL. That's Jac (my son), who's also live-blogging.

9:11: "There you go again. Say it ain't so, Joe." Palin was waiting to say that. Biden's error? Linking McCain to Bush. Palin seems supercharged. The question is education, and she's praising teachers and winking at her dad in the audience.

9:13: Palin gets a big laugh saying that she and Biden made "lame jokes" back in the beginning of the debate when they avoided answering the question what they wanted to do as VP. Clearly, she's really relaxed. The end is in sight, and she knows she's done well. She's stood her ground next to Biden. She hasn't stumbled, and he's seemed a bit boring.

9:25: Asked what he's changed his opinion about, Biden says he came to realize that judicial ideology matters. (Which is why he opposed Bork.) Palin says she's never had to compromise.

9:29: We've reached the prepared closing statements. So Palin has survived... more than survived. She won, I think most people will say. Now, she's able to say she likes to do these unscripted things. She quotes Ronald Reagan (again) and mentions "freedom" (again and again).

9:31: Biden gives his closing statement. He seems like a nice man. Did he ever attack her?

9:34: Huge crowd of family on the stage.

9:36: The final poll:

It's over now, so who won?
Biden
Palin
Neither
pollcode.com free polls

POST-DEBATE: Let me highlight some comments. Stupe said...
Althouse can't just eat normal foods, she needs trendy.

She doesn't go to chain restaurants, and her cuisine needs to reflect her offbeat, edgy, urbane, t[r]endy life.
Is burning the sauce now a trend? Or do I create the trend? If so, I can't help but be trendy. Is there a strozzapreti trend? I just picked the pasta that had a shape that appealed to me. So just be yourself, Stupe, and believe it's all very trendy, and that might make you happy. Don't think about me. Or, hell, think about me until it drives you crazy.

Ruth Anne Adams said...
The hair in [Sarah Palin's] eye is bothering my husband.
Ha ha. That was bugging me too. I was distracted thinking about whether she was distracted thinking about whether it would be more distracting to disentangle her bangs from her (false?) eyelashes than to allow the bangs-eye combo to continue as a single unit.

Lisa said...
So far, she sounds smart, sane and Republican.

The left will hate her. The right will agree with her.
(Lisa said baby on a night like this...)

vbspurs said...
Does Palin have ice water in her bloodstream or is it me?

She's almost too un-nervous. It's making me nervous!
LoafingOaf said...
What a twitchy, nervous wreck Palin is!
Palladian said...
Sarah Palin's pussy is gnawing at LoafingOaf's brain again.
vbspurs said...
OOOOOOH. A little lesbian tension between Palin and Ifill just now. HAWT.
(It's late-night Althouse.)

Michael_H said...
I don't want to channel surf--anyone know the Brewers/Phillies score?
Ruth Anne Adams said...
Gwen's questions SUCK! Too complex. Easily ignored.
Trooper York said...
Phillies won 5 to 2.

Go 2 up on the series.
Michael_H said...
Ifill keeps cutting Palin off, then letting Joey Plugs run as long as he wants.
Really?

vbspurs said...
The 'Mos are getting their questions now. Surprising nod to Palin by Ifill.

I smell a skunk. Or a fish taco.
!!!

ex-prosecutor said...
If these were two lawyers, arguing, to a jury, she'd be killing him.
palladian said...
God, the only thing more boring than a Vice Presidential debate is baseball. I'd rather listen to Joseph Biden filibuster than listen to people talk about baseball. I'd rather watch "An Inconvenient Truth" 100 times than listen to people talk about baseball. SHUT UP ABOUT BASEBALL.
vbspurs said...
Nice! "Not sane or stable" about Dinner Jacket.

THE CASTRO BROTHERS. She just won Florida, que rico!!!
lem said...
Gwen went off the script to help Joe!
michael_h said...
Love the way Palin smiles as she's making notes while Joey Plugs speaks.
chip ahoy said...
No fair! They televise the back of Biden's head to show all the work was done in the front.
lawgiver said...
Cuda is landing some major body shots now. Joe's eyes are glazed, he's going downnnnnn!
john stodder said...
Palin is just so damn normal.

On TV it looks weird to be normal.
goesh said...
500+ comments - holy wow

Palin's faster pace makes her come across as very competent/intelligent, a bit smarter than Biden - she sure the heck exudes confidence - what happened to the dummy from up north???? gone, gone, gone
palladian said...
I love the milling around parts of C-SPAN broadcasts. So much better than listening to talking heads blabber.
ricpic said...
Sarah's happy.

Lefty freaks can't stand happy.

But normal human beings love happy and love Sarah.
joan said...
Karl Rove just ticked off 10 major gaffes by Joe Biden. It was hysterical.
schorsch said...
Regardless of who won, Biden's tactic failed. He was there to debate Bush and McCain, and to ignore Palin as if she wasn't worthy of his attention. She engaged him, specifically, and was therefore the only person in the debate that was actually occurring.

MORE FROM THE COMMENTS: patca said...
I am soooo relieved--and very happy. She was fabulous.

I feel like smoking a cigarette.

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Dody Jane said...

HA HA! My broken record - I love that one!

vbspurs said...

The 'Mos are getting their questions now. Surprising nod to Palin by Ifill.

I smell a skunk. Or a fish taco.

Peter V. Bella said...

This is the real America. Wrigley is packed. They are playing the National Anthem. The crowd is on their feet. Real Americans standing up and being patriotic. They don't do that at the debates; the media does not allow that.

Dody Jane said...

Wait until foreign policy comes along

The Drill SGT said...

I just heard Biden say he and Obama support same sex marriage

muddimo said...

Palin sounds like a really chipper small town mayor. But that is not good enough.

Trooper York said...

I thought Palladian was a Beefeater man. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

blake said...

Gay marriage is covered in the Constitution?

Why are we debating it, then?

Ex-prosecutor said...

If these were two lawyers, arguing, to a jury, she'd be killing him.

Anonymous said...

Fish taco!!! arriba arriba!!

vbspurs said...

Nice talking point rebuttal by Palin. "I have a wide variety of friends, including those who disagree with me."

I had no idea she was pals with P. Diddy.

Well, that makes it unanimous. None of the candidates believe in gay marriage.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Try to avoid nuance?

Gwen is pissed!

Dody Jane said...

UH OH - Barack O does not support gay marriage

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Trooper York said...

The Cubs are gonna get smacked. Manny is gonna bitch slap them before he signs with the Yankees next year.

vbspurs said...

"Wonderful you agree". Sarcasm ill-becomes you, Miss Ifullofit.

muddimo said...

Biden and Obama are for gay marriage.

Biden and Obama do not support gay marriage.

Something for everyone.

The Drill SGT said...

a few seconds later they don't support SSM

Anonymous said...

dody jane said...
UH OH - Barack O does not support gay marriage

8:39 PM


Some of my friends just cover their ears on that...

vbspurs said...

Is it bad to say 'some of my best friends are gay'?

That's awkward, she used a much more elegant phrase of inclusiveness. :)

Dody Jane said...

I was a theatre major - most of my best friends in college were gay

Mark said...

Now will Biden come out against the Kyoto Protocols that lets China off the hook for those dirty coal plants?

Anonymous said...

er...covered...

Trooper York said...

Is her name Gwen Ifill or Gwen Snootfull?

vbspurs said...

"With all due respect, I didn't hear a plan"

I didn't hear a point, Clueless Joe.

Palladian said...

"Some of my friends just cover their ears on that..."

Yes, liberals and gay people ignore the fact that Obama doesn't support same-sex marriage. Or, worse, they say he does but that he just has to say he doesn't to get elected.

vbspurs said...

I was a theatre major - most of my best friends in college were gay

I have no gay friends at the moment. They all moved to Wasilla.

bleeper said...

Perry Mason was gay. Della was not doing him, the DA might have been under Perry's table, but Della worked the other side of the Street.

In keeping with the spirit of this part of the "debate", also known as Ifill wants her some 'bama.

Jeremy said...

Nice to see the Obamabots are living up to their name and parroting the pre-debate gameplan of insisting Palin is dumb, and anything smart she says was written for her. Sadly, I'm sure the press will report it that way (since in some cases, they've already written their stories about the debate before it happened)

muddimo said...

Biden: plan = timeline

Anonymous said...

He wants a scheduled withdrawal...what will Obama (PBUH) say??

Dody Jane said...

I hope she knows John McCain's plan

Mark said...

So the Obama/Biden ticket is against gay marriage?

vbspurs said...

"Your plan is a white flag of surrender in Iraq"

OUCH. PUNCH!

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

A white flag - yes!!!

Dody Jane said...

Joe looks like smoke will come out of his ears

mishu said...

Zambrano just struck out Ramirez to go 3 up, 3 down. Oops! Wrong channel.

AlphaLiberal said...

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Anonymous said...

"Your plan is a white flag of surrender"

One round, straight into the twelve ring.

Dody Jane said...

slap, slap

Anonymous said...

Did his face just hit the podium or did I imagine that??

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Palin is on the attack!

Revenant said...

I liked Palin's response on gay marriage. She seemed convincing to me in saying that she doesn't have a personal problem with gay people.

vbspurs said...

Mark, yes they ALL are against gay marriage. The gays are getting hosed with this troop of pols.

BTW, Palin is on a roll. She is super professional. The Couric interview is a DISTANT memory right now. This is GOVERNOR Freaking Palin.

Trooper York said...

How come all these ex-Yankee managers just have to go to the National League to win.

Except for Willie Randolph. Who was only a coach. Of course the Mets suck, so that's a big part of the explanation.

Palladian said...

"The gays are getting hosed with this troop of pols."

Um, poor choice of verbs.

Mark said...

Obama/Biden was wrong about the surge. They were wrong about the Iraqi government getting their act together.

muddimo said...

Biden, is good now. He's right about foolish Bush admin optimism.

Anonymous said...

He's channeling his mother!

vbspurs said...

Biden pulls out a mommy reference. Palin might pull out a breast to nurse him.

bleeper said...

Biden's plan = surrender to jihadis. He's a democrat, don't you know, the political arm of al Qaeda.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Biden get's the last word every time!

Lisa said...

Biden's an ass.

vbspurs said...

Um, poor choice of verbs.

I wanted to give you a frisson.

Palladian said...

God, the only thing more boring than a Vice Presidential debate is baseball. I'd rather listen to Joseph Biden filibuster than listen to people talk about baseball. I'd rather watch "An Inconvenient Truth" 100 times than listen to people talk about baseball. SHUT UP ABOUT BASEBALL.

Anonymous said...

palladian said...
"The gays are getting hosed with this troop of pols."

Um, poor choice of verbs.

8:45 PM


Amen

Lisa said...

Senator Biden: Pakistan's leaders don't make threatening comments about the demise of Israel every month or so. Pakistan's leaders don't go to the UN and make anti-Semitic speeches every year.

thegreatsatan said...

no penis = inability to pay attention for excitable andy

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Biden sounds pissed!

Anonymous said...

Biden just said "Let's get straight..."

Is that a different answer on the gay marriage issue? Or has he sensed the girl-girl tension in the room?

Alex said...

alpha - we know you're hear to rub our noses in Obama's near certain victory. Why don't you show a little CLASS and bow out?

The Drill SGT said...

a Bit a patriotic trivia

Palin calls Biden's Flag lapel pin and raises with a Flag and a Blue Star Mother pin :)

David said...

"'Here's the deal' is always followed by a load of bullshit." - I nominate this for Post of the Night.

vbspurs said...

Wow is Joe Biden really boring and irrelevant.

Ifullofit is laying a trap for Palin to say nucular again.

Methadras said...

A madrassa is a school you fool, Biden.

Palladian said...

"I wanted to give you a frisson."

I don't get frissons from girls. Besides, Ernie already gave me a frisson earlier talking about his big tall tower.

Lisa said...

Did Biden just say he would go into Pakistan if they had intelligeence on Bin Laden??????

We'ld go attack our ally?

Dody Jane said...

I hope she points out Al Queda (sp?) can't function out of Iraq anymore and THAT's why they will have to resort to Pakistan again

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

She said the mad mans name without flinchin!

Alex said...

I'll agree with Biden on one thing - madrassas are bad.

vbspurs said...

Nice! "Not sane or stable" about Dinner Jacket.

THE CASTRO BROTHERS. She just won Florida, que rico!!!

Trooper York said...

Just think about it in terms of pitchers and catchers and it will be easier for you to swallow. So to speak.

David said...

Biden has had eye surgery--that's why he looks so strange. It's not Botox, it's the knife.

Anonymous said...

She remembered the Castroides!!

But she needs to stop saying that word...

Mark said...

Obama doesn't have the experience to be President.

Biden does, but he's not at the top of the ticket.

Anonymous said...

Dinner Jacket better not try to negotiate with a mom of 5.

Anonymous said...

Going native here and drinking Presidente Brandy from mexico. Palin looks a bit edgy nervous, but seems to be getting better. Joe actually sounds somewhat reasonable. Joe did however completly lose me on the causes of GW.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Gwen is out to help Joe -

Dody Jane said...

Gwen is tripping over words - how can this be?

Alex said...

Victoria - to be fair Dinner Jacket is just the sock puppet of the Grand Islamic Council of Iran. His "instability" is just theirs.

vbspurs said...

"I schmoozed with Kissinger for an hour. I looked in his eyes, and saw three words: K. G. B."

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Gwen went off the script to help Joe!

Dody Jane said...

Gwen is definitely helping Joe

Anonymous said...

She's hammering him on that question...

Mark said...

Castro was minor league pitcher in the US before he got cut.

If he had made it to the big leagues, we would be smoking cuban cigars now.

JAL said...

So Gwen can't state a question clearly (Baker twice while she fumbles). Who is the candidate?

vbspurs said...

Can we talk? Biden channels Joan Rivers.

mishu said...

So Obama should sit down and talk with the theocracy?

Alex said...

Biden making my previous point that Dinner Jacket is just a sock puppet.

Dody Jane said...

TALK TALK TALK - Joe is auditioning to be the talker

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Joe sounds pissed again!

Palladian said...

"Just think about it in terms of pitchers and catchers and it will be easier for you to swallow. So to speak."

See, if you were talking about the player's massive legs and tight uniforms stretched over their fleshy asses then I would totally be a baseball fan.

Anonymous said...

Has Biden heard of Youtube?? The One (PBUH) has been recorded saying "no preconditions"

The Clintons hammered him on it!

Alex said...

Swing voters do want our POTUS to sit down with the grand ayatollah apparently - looking at the polls.

vbspurs said...

Palin is doing well despite the fact that Ifullofit is in the tank for Bammer-Biden.

The Drill SGT said...

Bden does the:

"Obama never said he'd sit down with Ahmadinejad"

that's a distinction without a difference if you go to the Obama debate tape

Peter V. Bella said...

God, the only thing more boring than a Vice Presidential debate is baseball.

Ya know, Palladian, I always liked you. Now I am not so sure of your patriotism.

Trooper York said...

Politics is like baseball. Joe Biden is Don Zimmer. Sarah Palin is Kevin McReynolds.

(Obscure Met reference to annoy Doyle)

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Gwen trows Paling the tougf questions - softballs for Biden.

vbspurs said...

NICE. Jerusalem mention by Palin. My goodness, she sounds sharp about foreign policy.

Dody Jane said...

She is kinda good at swerving away from Joe's wonky stuff

vbspurs said...

"Or something to that effect" read, is my hairplug showing?

Anonymous said...

She's talking about Joe Biden in third person...oi effing vey!

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Joe Biden is friend of Israel? what about Obama?

Palladian said...

"(Obscure Met reference to annoy Doyle)"

You don't have to annoy Doyle. Doyle is always annoyed.

Mark said...

Come on Joe, Obama was a member of a anti-Israel church for 20 years.

Anonymous said...

We kicked Hezbolla out of Lebanon?? When??

Lisa said...

She called Obama naive!!!

Love her!

Alex said...

Swing voters want:

* throw Israel under the bus
* attack our ally Pakistan
* have our POTUS come on bended knee to the Grand Ayatollah


all evidence by the latest polls....

AlphaLiberal said...

We can't talk to Spain! The rain in Spain will never fall on McCain.

The Drill SGT said...

Biden is reinventing the Lebanon history

JAL said...

So he is batter friend to Israel than Joe Lieberman?

Anonymous said...

I meant he was talking about himself in the third person.

JAL said...

better, not batter.

Who's watching baseball?

Anonymous said...

Split screen - 'Cuda does a really good Tina Fey imitation of Sara Palin.

Jeez...Joey Plugs is getting really pissed. Look at his mouth. And you can hear him breathing through his nose.

Dody Jane said...

OOOOOOOOOO

Alex said...

Do we all love Israel? I don't think so - ask AlphaLiberal...

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Palin is on the attack!

Anonymous said...

AL, you may be a fairy, but not a lady, buzz off.

vbspurs said...

(My Firefox is acting up again)

Good exchange just now from both candidates about Israel.

Palladian said...

"Swing voters want:

* throw Israel under the bus
* attack our ally Pakistan
* have our POTUS come on bended knee to the Grand Ayatollah

all evidence by the latest polls...."

These are people who are too stupid and uninformed to decide whether they're liberals or conservatives. C'mon what do you expect?

vbspurs said...

GEORGE BUSHES.

Christy said...

Anyone else notice that Biden is talking to Gwen and not Palin. He has twice started an answer with "Gwen, ...."

Again as I typed.

Dody Jane said...

Joe is getting screechy

Alex said...

Waiting to hear from:

AlphaLiberal
UWS
FLS
Michael

about their love of Israel.

Mark said...

Note to Joe, GW Bush isn't running for re-election.

Salamandyr said...

So...can we get these two at the top of the ticket?

vbspurs said...

Hezzzbollah is Biden's Pah-kees-tan.

Chip Ahoy said...

"Past is prologue, Gwen."

*grins*

*kittens die*

"Joe, please stop doing that. It's scaring the children."

Palladian said...

Ifill is a disgrace. I wish Jim Lehrer could fire her.

vbspurs said...

Welcome to the Jong-Il.

bleeper said...

Their love of Isreal is undiminished. It is as great a love as Amadinijihadmofo's.

JAL said...

Is the Gov allowed to respond to Senator Joe? Israel's best friend ever in the Senate? Gwen keeps moving on.

Alex said...

Victoria - I also noticed how Obama & Biden pronounce those places using the Arabic pronunciation instead of American.

Dody Jane said...

Yes - the surge principles need to be implemented in Afghanistan

vbspurs said...

Ifullofit giving every last word to Biden. FIXED.

Anonymous said...

chip ahoy said...
"Past is prologue, Gwen."

*grins*

*kittens die*

"Joe, please stop doing that. It's scaring the children."

8:57 PM


He scares the children all the time. Just look at that hair.

Mark said...

Good point by Palin about Obama's comments about US Troops in Afghanistan.

Nichevo said...

You're right, Ifill is just trying to get Palin to say "nucular." What was that question? Nuclear trigger? Yes, we have them. Should they be replaced with ones made out of sugar candy?

I do like how she pushes out her points. No point waiting for anything resembling help. Bam bam bam.

vbspurs said...

"Not Joe Biden". Stop referring to yourself in the third person! You're worse than Bob Dole.

Mark said...

Joe, isn't more troops and money the "surge principle."

Alex said...

One thing I can say, with Obama throwing Israel to the Arab wolves - it virtually guarantees an massive Israeli bombing attack on Iran in 2009...

Dody Jane said...

I think Gwen comes out looking BAD... she is in the tank, treading water, splashing Sarah

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Palladian said...

"about their love of Israel."

Why do American politicians have to declare their "love" for Israel? I think support and admiration is enough. American politicians should love America.

mishu said...

Gwen keeps baiting Sarah say, "nukular".

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Bidens blumbling

Alex said...

palladin - come on. Don't you love Israel?

I'm Full of Soup said...

You guys are doing great.

Give some thought to how you think the MSM talking heads will score it and what excuses they will make for Biden.....

i.e well Gov. Palin has been hiding and prepping and studying for five weeks,etc (typed that in my David Broder voice heh).

vbspurs said...

Thank God Joe Biden wasn't set after Osama Bin Laden. He wouldn't find him, anymore than he can find a point.

(Biden SIGHS)

Anonymous said...

*fumbling with the microphone*

"This will make me look better. Ouch!"

Alex said...

It's all Biden knows how to do - attack, attack, attack. I wonder why swing voters love this.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Biden sigh!

Anonymous said...

Joe Biden walks into Hair Club For Men, points to his head, and says "drill here, drill now."

Dody Jane said...

MSM will say Biden won, Oh the gravitas...

Paul Hogue said...

Biden's now offering angry lectures at every answer...

At first he was overwhelming Palin's responses with facts. Now he's the crotchety professor you hated in college.

mrs whatsit said...

Was that the third or fourth time Biden sighed into his microphone?

vbspurs said...

Gwen Ifill: "Senator?"

With a tone of voice saying, why aren't we killing this mooseshooting moron already?!

David said...

"Shut up about fucking Polar Bears."

Palladian, does Sarah Palin fuck Polar Bears? Why should we shut up about an issue like that.

Alex said...

Palin would be a fantastic candidate for POTUS in 2012, too bad she's stuck to such an idiot this year...

Nichevo said...

Discussion of reuse of Iraq COIN tactics (the surge) in AF is interesting, substantive. Both sides actually.

I am losing the thread on this Palin-is-a-bimbo thing, though. Libs, help me!

Palladian said...

"palladin - come on. Don't you love Israel?"

It's Palladian, and no, I don't "love" Israel or any other country besides my own. I respect Israel very much, but why "love" another country?

Dody Jane said...

"Joe Biden walks into Hair Club For Men, points to his head, and says "drill here, drill now."

THIS IS SO FUNNY

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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vbspurs said...

I don't know what happened, but this isn't the Palin of the last two weeks. At the very least, the less feral of the Dems out there have to admit she is doing well, holding her own, and getting her points in with aplomb.

Dody Jane said...

28 more minutes - I can hardly wait to be done!

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Anonymous said...

He said it was mistake, but gave the president the power to go to Iraq, and throws Lugger under the bus again...

Dody Jane said...

WHY DOES HE GET TO FILIBUSTER?

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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vbspurs said...

"Aww man" "You guys"!!

Anonymous said...

Love the way Palin smiles as she's making notes while Joey Plugs speaks.

The Drill SGT said...

I can't make Biden's math work: "We have spent more in 3 weeks in combat in Iraq than we have in the entire Afghan war"

3 weeks versus 312 weeks?

I can't see it as a 1-100 weekly burn rate

Halfwit Joe said...

Biden: Commander in Afghanistan says surge won't work.

International Herald Tribune headline yesterday: U.S. general urges troop surge in Afghanistan
(http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/01/mideast/military.php)

Anonymous said...

She's folksy

vbspurs said...

WHY DOES HE GET TO FILIBUSTER?

He was pissed Lugar took all his floor time yesterday.

nelda said...

What's the deal? It's true, Joey Hairplugs DOES get the last word.

Chip Ahoy said...

No fair! They televise the back of Biden's head to show all the work was done in the front.

vbspurs said...

She's folksy

You little STINKER.

Anonymous said...

halfwit joe said...
Biden: Commander in Afghanistan says surge won't work.

International Herald Tribune headline yesterday: U.S. general urges troop surge in Afghanistan
(http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/01/mideast/military.php)

9:04 PM


"That headline never exist, tovarich! NEVER! Lies!! ALL LIES!!"

Dody Jane said...

Excellent ! Tell what you did for Darfur! Sarah -' I may not have been there - but I am doing what I can!'

Mark said...

What are the US interests in Darfur?

Peter V. Bella said...

Waiting to hear from:

AlphaLiberal
UWS
FLS
Michael

about their love of Israel.

The progressives are pro-Palestinian and anti-Israel. They have been for years. Thet think the Palestinians got screwed when they ran out in 1948 for no reason and had to live in self imposed camps.

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Again Quens soft peddles Biden!

vbspurs said...

Nice mindfake at the start of the debate by Palin:

"May I call you Joe?"

She hasn't once called him Joe.

Anonymous said...

This will reveal my age bracket...Is Sara Palin the new Sam Irvin?

Nichevo said...

Listen to him dance!

vbspurs said...

McCain = Cheney.

Before it was McCain = Bush. Any moment he'll work himself down to McCain = Pelosi.

Anonymous said...

vbspurs said...
She's folksy

You little STINKER.

9:05 PM


*MUAH*

I'm Full of Soup said...

Ruth Ann:

Between innings, I caught that too when Biden said "I gave the president the power".

What an arrogant buffoon Biden is.

Chip Ahoy said...

Joe has a great stylist.

vbspurs said...

WTF, IFILL. The Matt Damon talking point. Low blow.

AlphaLiberal said...

McCain knows how to win a war? What war has he won?

vbspurs said...

Sam Irvin? Wasn't he the fat comic who screamed in the microphone, who died?

The Drill SGT said...

Ifill used the "and if your Principal dies and you take over...."

Lisa said...

This is the most important election since 1932?

Really? Based on what?

Anonymous said...

We haven't won a war since 1932? huh?

Lem the artificially intelligent said...

Does Joe have botox?

notice how his eyebrows look like a volkan

I'm Full of Soup said...

Cubs are going to blow this game it looks like. Just made about three errors in this inning and it ain't over. Sacks are loaded and 2 runs have scored and I don't think the Dodgers have hit the ball out of the infield.

vbspurs said...

I noticed the Vulcanised eyebrows too.

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