October 2, 2008

Live-blogging the VP debate.

7:31, Central Time: I'm here, eating strozzapreti with burned tomato sauce, counting the last few minutes before the grand showdown.

7:39: Strozzapreti? "Priest choker"!

7:55: Are you going to watch on CNN, with the uncommitted viewers' reaction lines undulating at the bottom of the screen? Wow. That's crazy! I can't tolerate that distraction, and the "persuadable" voters they've assembled are... not people I feel like monitoring on a real-time basis.

7:58: What are you looking for, mainly? Honestly, I'm mainly looking to see if Sarah Palin can sound reasonably competent.

8:02: The 2 candidates stride out, both dressed in black. "Hey, can I call you Joe?" we hear Sarah say. Palin looks tiny behind her lectern. She's behind her lectern there, and here's where I am, chez Althouse:

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8:06: Palin's flag pin is way bigger than Biden's. Biden has a brown dot on his forehead. Palin refers to "the fundamental" of our economy. She's speaking too quickly, sounding nervous.

8:09: Whose fault is the sub-prime mortgage meltdown? Palin says the moneylenders have taken advantage of people, and she mentions "hockey moms" a second time. Biden blames Republican deregulation. Biden's forehead wrinkles only way over on the side, while the whole center is smooth and flat. What do you think? Botox?

8:13: Palin says she might not answer the questions the way the monitor wants, but she's going to talk straight to the American people. She reveals her overarching strategy. And I note that she's speaking clearly and confidently. There is no stumbling or fear, as far as I can see.

8:19: Joe Biden is going to "eliminate those wasteful spending."

8:27: I'll bet a lot of people are tuning out about now, satisfied that Palin is competent and smart, but pretty bored.

8:29: I'm reading Andrew Sullivan: "Biden is just dreadful. He speaks in Washingtonese. She just issues the soundbites and wrinkles her eyes and tells stories. And that works. The speed and chirpiness she delivers overwhelms one's ability to even quite absorb what she's saying. And it has put Biden off-stride. It's Biden who seems over-crammed." It seems to me that both of them are spewing policy (and it's getting tiresome). "Chirpiness"... I don't know, Andrew... that reads as sexist to me. Why is she overwhelming your ability to absorb what she's saying? Is she working some voodoo on you... and on Biden?

8:34: Palin said "Senator O'Biden."

8:35: Palin razzes Biden on clean coal. Is he for it or not? Biden says he's for it, and his rope-line comment was about his support for exporting clean coal technology to China. That doesn't seem to fit the text of his remark (which he claims was "taken out of context").

8:37: Biden passionately expresses support for equal treatment for same-sex couples, and Palin opposes same-sex marriage, but says that in all other ways she's completely tolerant of adults forming their own relationships. Biden then is given the opportunity to disavow gay marriage, which he eagerly does. Okaaaay.

8:40: Palin is praising the surge and insisting on victory in Iraq. "It would be a travesty if we quit now." Biden complains that she didn't state a plan. On the split screen, when Biden is speaking, Palin looks like she's brimming with ideas she's just waiting to express. When she gets her turn, she says Biden's plan is a "white flag of surrender." She reminds Biden of how much he supported McCain and how he said Obama was not ready to be President.

8:49: Biden is mugging and scratching his neck in an exaggerated way. I think he was trying to signal his objection to the things Palin was saying about Obama's willingness to sit down with Ahmadinejad.

8:51: Biden's heating up! Is he losing his temper?

8:55: At Drudge:



8:57: Well, let me ask:

Who's winning?
Palin.
Biden.
It's not about winning and losing in the debate.
Shut up! It's not over.
pollcode.com free polls


9:03: Palin enthuses over her Washington outsider status as she claims to hear Biden saying, essentially, I was for it before I was against it.

9:09: "Palin: 'Oh, man, it's so obvious that I'm a Washington outsider and just not used to the way you guys operate!' And then, Biden pats down his brow. On sheer theatrics, Palin definitely won that moment." LOL. That's Jac (my son), who's also live-blogging.

9:11: "There you go again. Say it ain't so, Joe." Palin was waiting to say that. Biden's error? Linking McCain to Bush. Palin seems supercharged. The question is education, and she's praising teachers and winking at her dad in the audience.

9:13: Palin gets a big laugh saying that she and Biden made "lame jokes" back in the beginning of the debate when they avoided answering the question what they wanted to do as VP. Clearly, she's really relaxed. The end is in sight, and she knows she's done well. She's stood her ground next to Biden. She hasn't stumbled, and he's seemed a bit boring.

9:25: Asked what he's changed his opinion about, Biden says he came to realize that judicial ideology matters. (Which is why he opposed Bork.) Palin says she's never had to compromise.

9:29: We've reached the prepared closing statements. So Palin has survived... more than survived. She won, I think most people will say. Now, she's able to say she likes to do these unscripted things. She quotes Ronald Reagan (again) and mentions "freedom" (again and again).

9:31: Biden gives his closing statement. He seems like a nice man. Did he ever attack her?

9:34: Huge crowd of family on the stage.

9:36: The final poll:

It's over now, so who won?
Biden
Palin
Neither
pollcode.com free polls

POST-DEBATE: Let me highlight some comments. Stupe said...
Althouse can't just eat normal foods, she needs trendy.

She doesn't go to chain restaurants, and her cuisine needs to reflect her offbeat, edgy, urbane, t[r]endy life.
Is burning the sauce now a trend? Or do I create the trend? If so, I can't help but be trendy. Is there a strozzapreti trend? I just picked the pasta that had a shape that appealed to me. So just be yourself, Stupe, and believe it's all very trendy, and that might make you happy. Don't think about me. Or, hell, think about me until it drives you crazy.

Ruth Anne Adams said...
The hair in [Sarah Palin's] eye is bothering my husband.
Ha ha. That was bugging me too. I was distracted thinking about whether she was distracted thinking about whether it would be more distracting to disentangle her bangs from her (false?) eyelashes than to allow the bangs-eye combo to continue as a single unit.

Lisa said...
So far, she sounds smart, sane and Republican.

The left will hate her. The right will agree with her.
(Lisa said baby on a night like this...)

vbspurs said...
Does Palin have ice water in her bloodstream or is it me?

She's almost too un-nervous. It's making me nervous!
LoafingOaf said...
What a twitchy, nervous wreck Palin is!
Palladian said...
Sarah Palin's pussy is gnawing at LoafingOaf's brain again.
vbspurs said...
OOOOOOH. A little lesbian tension between Palin and Ifill just now. HAWT.
(It's late-night Althouse.)

Michael_H said...
I don't want to channel surf--anyone know the Brewers/Phillies score?
Ruth Anne Adams said...
Gwen's questions SUCK! Too complex. Easily ignored.
Trooper York said...
Phillies won 5 to 2.

Go 2 up on the series.
Michael_H said...
Ifill keeps cutting Palin off, then letting Joey Plugs run as long as he wants.
Really?

vbspurs said...
The 'Mos are getting their questions now. Surprising nod to Palin by Ifill.

I smell a skunk. Or a fish taco.
!!!

ex-prosecutor said...
If these were two lawyers, arguing, to a jury, she'd be killing him.
palladian said...
God, the only thing more boring than a Vice Presidential debate is baseball. I'd rather listen to Joseph Biden filibuster than listen to people talk about baseball. I'd rather watch "An Inconvenient Truth" 100 times than listen to people talk about baseball. SHUT UP ABOUT BASEBALL.
vbspurs said...
Nice! "Not sane or stable" about Dinner Jacket.

THE CASTRO BROTHERS. She just won Florida, que rico!!!
lem said...
Gwen went off the script to help Joe!
michael_h said...
Love the way Palin smiles as she's making notes while Joey Plugs speaks.
chip ahoy said...
No fair! They televise the back of Biden's head to show all the work was done in the front.
lawgiver said...
Cuda is landing some major body shots now. Joe's eyes are glazed, he's going downnnnnn!
john stodder said...
Palin is just so damn normal.

On TV it looks weird to be normal.
goesh said...
500+ comments - holy wow

Palin's faster pace makes her come across as very competent/intelligent, a bit smarter than Biden - she sure the heck exudes confidence - what happened to the dummy from up north???? gone, gone, gone
palladian said...
I love the milling around parts of C-SPAN broadcasts. So much better than listening to talking heads blabber.
ricpic said...
Sarah's happy.

Lefty freaks can't stand happy.

But normal human beings love happy and love Sarah.
joan said...
Karl Rove just ticked off 10 major gaffes by Joe Biden. It was hysterical.
schorsch said...
Regardless of who won, Biden's tactic failed. He was there to debate Bush and McCain, and to ignore Palin as if she wasn't worthy of his attention. She engaged him, specifically, and was therefore the only person in the debate that was actually occurring.

MORE FROM THE COMMENTS: patca said...
I am soooo relieved--and very happy. She was fabulous.

I feel like smoking a cigarette.

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bleeper said...

Sam Kinison, from the midwest, was the great comedian.

Sam Irvin, from NC, was the folksy blowhard klansman.

Simon said...

Heh. Biden is asked about a potential Biden administration and says (to the effect of) "God forbid that should happen," "it would be a national catastrophe." For once I agree with him. The idea of President Biden... Ick.

Dody Jane said...

Twenty More Minutes

Trumpit said...

"I'm sick of hearing about polar bears. Shut the fuck up about the fucking polar bears!"

And I'm fucking sick of you, Palladian. Go fucking extinct, dude. Say another bad thing about polar bears, and I'll send one over to eat you, if he or she is not too repulsed by your nastiness or is it your nattiness? Okay, both.

vbspurs said...

"Wasilla, Main Street"

That's the collective howl of Sally Quinn-Jann Wenner-David Gergen you hear in the background.

Mark said...

Good point. Palin reminds people she is the middle class and Joe Biden certainly is not.

Invisible Man said...

Whom amongst you can disagree with a Team of Mavericks?

mishu said...

Ugh. Bases clearing double. 5-0 Dodgers.

vbspurs said...

Biden: "Can I respond?"

Ifill: "PLEASE!"

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Anonymous said...

He spends a lot of time at The Homo Depot?? Senator Craig, call your office.

The rule of Lemnity said...

Joe is running against Bush?

vbspurs said...

Twenty More Minutes

Oy. My cup runneth over.

Say it ain't so!

Lisa said...

Say it ain't so Joe!

DaLawGiver said...

"A little reality from Main street Wasilla..."


Best line of the debate!

Anonymous said...

It ain't so, Joe! YEAAAAA!

The rule of Lemnity said...

Joe here you go again!

JAL said...

Aha! She called him Joe.

vbspurs said...

Dog gone it! Her reward is in heaven, right?

DRINK!!!! GO CRAZY!

Palladian said...

"Say another bad thing about polar bears, and I'll send one over to eat you"

My army of kinkajous will fuck your tired polar bear up.

Chip Ahoy said...

I like CNN's undulating graph. Do they have voters hooked up to an EEG or what?

Peter V. Bella said...

it virtually guarantees an massive Israeli bombing attack on Iran in 2009...

Probably sooner. Israel is getting tired of the US telling it what it can and cannot do. I hope they finally make Jerusalem the capital.

vbspurs said...

Shout out! LOL! OMG EXTRA CREDIT.

Cute. Overload. CLEAR!

Nichevo said...

heartbeat away...ooh...

Biden is good at reframing and rattling off his lists. Give him that, he's been doing it for three or four decades. No daylight.

Palin is a little puppyish but her own woman.

Why is Biden responding? Um, gratuitous much?

Oh yeah the coal miner...

oofah! say it aint so joe! Who was it here with the baseball tonight?

Damn they are freeform, this is almost like a dogfight itself.

Peter V. Bella said...

Why does anyone care about polar bears?

Lisa said...

We need flexibility in NCLB and an emphasis on the profession of education.

Yep.

Mark said...

"There you go again." Good reference for the Reagan fans.

DaLawGiver said...

Cuda is landing some major body shots now. Joe's eyes are glazed, he's going downnnnnn!

vbspurs said...

Ifill is grading Joe Biden on a bell curve.

The rule of Lemnity said...

That's the Sarah Palin America has fallen in love with.

Snide Quen again!

Alex said...

Just to note:

An Obama victory = Massive Israeli air strikes in Iran.

bleeper said...

Hey - lil Trumpit's meds have worn off. How are you today, little typo boy? Is your mommy giving you extra time on the computer for being a good boy and not splooging the keyboard? That's a nice thing...

Dody Jane said...

Gladys Wood Elementary - You Betcha, dog gone it!!!

Dody Jane said...

Gladys Wood Elementary - You Betcha, dog gone it!!!

vbspurs said...

LOL!!! LAME ATTEMPT.

Roberto said...

i can't help but notice...everybody has DISAPPEARED.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Palin wants Govt back on the side of the people. Wasilla Main Street needed in DC. I like that Gov.

You can see Biden thinking to himself - this broad is damn good.

Biden talks about his "neighborhood" and Home Depot where he spends a lot of time.

Biden lives in a $3 Million custom built house on four acres.

Ifill makes a smarmy, snarky comment after Palin spoke of the teachers in her own family.

mrs whatsit said...

Nice little moment between them just then.

Meade said...

You get extra credit for watching these debates!

vbspurs said...

OMG, thank God I am still awake after the snore-a-thon prior to the Folksy Sarah routine.

Dody Jane said...

15 more minutes

Alex said...

Michael said...

i can't help but notice...everybody has DISAPPEARED.

9:13 PM\

LAME TROLL ATTEMPT....

The rule of Lemnity said...

Sarah is not at all the air head I been led to believe!

vbspurs said...

Joe left his hairplug behind.

Mark said...

Palin is doing well so far. No knockouts or knock downs (none for Biden yet either).

When will we see full transcript from the Couric Palin interviews?

Alex said...

So which one of our trolls are lamer:

Alpha, Palladian or Michael/

Anonymous said...

michael said...
i can't help but notice...everybody has DISAPPEARED.

9:13 PM


Too much acid, yo!

Nichevo said...

i like the division of roles palin proposes/describes, actually.

Palladian said...

"Michael said...

i can't help but notice...everybody has DISAPPEARED."

Ugh, too bad you didn't join them.

The Drill SGT said...

Biden is feeding Ifill direction on what questions he wants?

Alex said...

lem - she never was.

Dody Jane said...

CO- PRESIDENCY

vbspurs said...

Alex is the lamest troll.

Mark said...

Biden says he'll be the responsible adult in an Obama administration.

Nichevo said...

ooh biden, point person. obama would have his own lobbyist.

help govern, as in be the grown-up?

uh oh what will we do if biden dies and obama has nobody to tell him what to do?

Palladian said...

"So which one of our trolls are lamer:

Alpha, Palladian or Michael"

What the fuck are you talking about? I'm a troll now? Is it because I don't "love" Israel?

Peter V. Bella said...

Darfur- Ha ha ha ha ha. The only people who care about Darfur are bobble head celebrities.

BJK said...

...I don't see Biden as a "Home Depot" kind of guy.

Peter V. Bella said...

I always wanted to try to hunt polar bears.

The rule of Lemnity said...

Here is Quen attempting to trap Palin with a VP constitutional question!

John Stodder said...

Dodgers 5, Cubs 0.

In a much less even match than the debate.

From watching the first 40 minutes and ducking in and out during game breaks, I'd say this debate is a draw, so far. Palin wins if only by not being Katie Couric's bitch anymore.

Anonymous said...

Joe is scratching his face...a bit of blow?

AlphaLiberal said...

Palin = Cheney 2!! She SAID IT!

4th Branch!

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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vbspurs said...

Biden is desperate. He just insulted the Vice-President, thus establishing a precedent for someone to insult him should he get in.

Alex said...

Victoria - why did you call me a troll?

Dody Jane said...

Poor Cubs - Yet, if they keep losing, the world will not end - Armageddon will have been averted

Mark said...

Biden is throwing raw meat to the nut roots by attacking VP Cheney.

Anonymous said...

What I want for Christmas - a recording of Sara Palin reading my favorite line from the movie Fargo:

"So, is that yer friend in th' chipper shredder there?"

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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vbspurs said...

Oh dear, Palin repeats the talking point.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Anyone still awake after that last Biden snoozefest (comment)?

Palladian said...

And Alex, if there ever was a candidate for a real, Axelrod astroturfer, it would be you. You seem usually supportive of McCain and Palin, but I notice that you also drop little "of course McCain is going to lose, too bad Obama is going to win by a landslide" comments which seem designed to discourage and dismay your "fellow" conservatives. So are you on the Axelrod payroll?

Simon said...

Her answer about Cheney's argument that the Vice President is part of the legislative branch was weak. But she's saved by Biden's mistake: he is totally wrong that Cheney invented the idea. He did not. The first person to make the argument that the Vice-President is part of the legislative rather than the executive branch wasn't Dick Cheney, or even David Addington. It was Oliver Ellsworth, delegate to the Constitutional convention of 1787, writing in the Connecticut Courant, in December 1787. See John Feerick, From Failing Hands 52 (1965).

The rule of Lemnity said...

Sarah wins!

AlphaLiberal said...

Like Cheney, Palin is an abuser of power.

News today: "GOP Suit To Halt Trooper-Gate Probe Dismissed"

Anonymous said...

palladian said...
And Alex, if there ever was a candidate for a real, Axelrod astroturfer, it would be you. You seem usually supportive of McCain and Palin, but I notice that you also drop little "of course McCain is going to lose, too bad Obama is going to win by a landslide" comments which seem designed to discourage and dismay your "fellow" conservatives. So are you on the Axelrod payroll?

9:19 PM


You noticed too. I thought I was just drunk

Alex said...

palladian - I just admit reality. The MSM threw the election to Obama. It's a coup de tat. I said that in morning.

Dody Jane said...

Violins playing -

vbspurs said...

Biden is getting testy. Maybe he just realised he's not winning, but more importantly, Sarah Palin is not losing.

Biden mentions the sad death of his first wife. I hope Palin sympathises.

Anonymous said...

Barack has a record of "fundamental accomplishments?" Huh?

Peter V. Bella said...

An Obama victory = Massive Israeli air strikes in Iran.

Cool!!!! But they will probably bomb sooner. I am surprised they haven't done it already. If that Iranian midget makes one more stupid comment, they may.


Sam Irvin, from NC, was the folksy blowhard klansman.

Like Bidens good friend Byrd.

Roberto said...

Palin: Big trouble.

Mark said...

Please, the Crime Act of 1994 did not put 100,000 cops on the street.

Biden has serious truth issues.

Anonymous said...

What's he blabbering about now??

The rule of Lemnity said...

Joe is crying?

vbspurs said...

Axelrod astroturfer

Quite.

Simon said...

Ooh, Biden says he wrote VAWA and notes that McCain voted against it. Only in a liberal's mind could writing an unconstitutional piece of legislation -- so found (so far only in part) by the Supreme Court -- be a better recomendation than opposing that legislation.

Palladian said...

I like that the resident lefties seem scared again.

Beth said...

The MSM threw the election to Obama.

Right, because the media's going to go vote for us. You must have a low opinion of the intelligence of Americans.

If McCain loses, it won't have anything to do with his running a crappy campaign, or following eight years of a god-awful Republican administration. It's the media's fault. This is the GOP version of of "they hacked the voting machines!"

The rule of Lemnity said...

Joe faked crying?

Anonymous said...

michael, seriously, lay off the *cid, dude, you are tripping balls

Peter V. Bella said...

Biden mentions the sad death of his first wife.

He is pathetic. He has no integrity.

vbspurs said...

"He is the man we need to leave" ;)

AlphaLiberal said...

A "Maverick" is a wild animal, cow or horse, which has not been branded.

Perhaps John McCain was a maverick once but he's got Bush's and hard right's brand on him now.

The Drill SGT said...

well it's not done yet, but I think Palin has done a better than solid job. I like her stage presence and her energy level is far higher than Biden's.

I don't think she has made any errors other than 2 small stumbles where she transposed "mainstreet" and "wall street" and one question where she repeated a talking point.

Palladian said...

Mmm, I love the smell of fear!

vbspurs said...

My God, Beth and Simon, where the hellz were youse?

Wince said...

Did Joe Biden just say Article 1 of the Constitution deals with the executive branch?

WRONG!!!!

Dody Jane said...

JOe sounds really grumpy and mean

Anonymous said...

Ifill spends one small part of a word trying to cut Biden off.

Joey Plugs is angry. Palin is controlling him. Meltdown alert.

Nichevo said...

Biden is competent but I'm sorry has weak stuff. Boy I wish I could see their faces.

Palladian said...

Hmmm, where's the "trainwreck" that PinchingLoaf kept promising?

Roberto said...

Palin: No substance

vbspurs said...

IFILL getting freaky about policy views.

Chip Ahoy said...

Uh oh. Watch that blood pressure, Uncle Joe.

Mark said...

Biden clearly over ran his time limit and Gwen never calls him on it like she has with Gov. Palin.

vbspurs said...

Joe Biden wants to be on The View.

Dody Jane said...

Five Minute warning

The Drill SGT said...

Did Biden get more time than Palin?

blake said...

Yes, serious gaffe from Biden.

But that's just JOE for ya!

Simon said...

Palin: "John McCain has already tapped me."

The red blooded nation turns green with envy.

Palladian said...

Michael is shitting his pants again. Tee hee.

vbspurs said...

Hmmm, where's the "trainwreck" that PinchingLoaf kept promising?

She brought her wrecking ball instead.

AlphaLiberal said...

Maverick:
"an unbranded calf, cow, or steer, esp. an unbranded calf that is separated from its mother. "

Sorry, no horses.

Palladian said...

Michael: Boring Douchebag

Beth said...

So are you on the Axelrod payroll?

No, he's not, Palladian. But he is a troll. Ultimately, trolls harm the side they're on by presenting it in the most obnoxious, least relevant terms possible, and perhaps you're noticing that for the first time from the conservative side.

I'm Full of Soup said...

Joe Biden represents Obama's first big decision and it was a bad decision.

bleeper said...

V. Bella - yes, the difference is that Senator Sam had the good sense to die years ago, and stop burdening us with his "folksy" hatred and stupidity.

Dody Jane said...

What will the MSM say?

vbspurs said...

She's going to wink again in 3-2-1.

mrs whatsit said...

I hope somebody is keeping track of how often Biden's been allowed to have the last word and how often Palin has.

Nichevo said...


Blogger Simon said...

Palin: "John McCain has already tapped me."

The red blooded nation turns green with envy.

9:25 PM


??!? huh

Ruth Anne Adams said...
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Alex said...

beth - shaddup already. You are part of the MSM attack machine.

John Kindley said...

I gave up watching these two crap sandwiches debate each other after an hour of bored disgust. I think we should all just follow the advice of all those celebrities in that video who said we shouldn't vote, cause they don't give a fuck and our votes don't mean shit anyway. Of course, I was so disgusted by watching that video (and grateful that I don't have fame and fortune if that's what it does to your soul) that I had to stop watching that too, so I may have missed any deeper meaning they might have been trying to push in the second half of their performance.

John Stodder said...

Palin is just so damn normal.

On TV it looks weird to be normal.

Mark said...

How many Republicans spoke at the DNC?

Palladian said...

Haha, AlphaLiberal is in panic auto mode! No talking points have been issued yet so he has nothing to say. PRINT DICTIONARY DEFINITIONS [MAVERICK].

mishu said...

What controversial issues?

vbspurs said...

This is so strange. Gwen Ifill has inhabited the shell of Couric's Sarah Palin. She can't string two words together, and sounds fuzzy.

Sofa King said...

So...Biden takes credit for bipartisanship AND partisan judicial blocking. Nice.

Peter V. Bella said...

Lem said...
Joe faked crying?



Hey, is Joe Biden Hillary Clinton?

vbspurs said...

Ditto, Dody Jane. Thanks for keeping track of the time. :)

Dody Jane said...

I think Gwen Ifill lost this debate

Palladian said...

"But he is a troll. Ultimately, trolls harm the side they're on by presenting it in the most obnoxious, least relevant terms possible, and perhaps you're noticing that for the first time from the conservative side."

Beth, trolls are trolls, left or right.

Roberto said...

EDH: Article One of the United States Constitution describes the powers of the legislative branch of the United States government.

And that's exactly what he discussed.

That the V.P. is NOT governed by such...the the V.P. is part of the "executive branch."

vnjagvet said...

She was first rate tonight in talking to the average person who decides elections.

Nichevo said...

cmon, media, dig up the biden-helms love child. brokeback hill, can you dig it.

vbspurs said...

Palin gets the last word first.

Palladian said...

I know, Dody Jane, Ifill was disgraceful. Fire her, Lehrer!

mrs whatsit said...

Ifill let Biden open the debate and she's letting him close it.

vbspurs said...

Nice rebuttal by Palin about the media filter.

Sofa King said...

Well she really laid it out there on the media.

Dody Jane said...

Brilliant! Let me talk with out EDITS

The rule of Lemnity said...

Proud to be an American!

Nichevo said...

oh, that's my girl, she likes unfiltered! I should send her a carton of Pall Mall.

vbspurs said...

AWESOME CLOSING POINTS BY PALIN. Woo!

BJK said...

Joe Biden's example of 'change' in Congress is one of the biggest problem most people have with the Democrats in Congress.

(...and by "most people," I do mean me.)

Anonymous said...

I hope Lehrer does fire her, but I can only hope.

John Stodder said...

Biden was holding back the tears.

If you've lost someone in the prime of their lives, you wouldn't be doubting how real that emotion was.

He's a doofus, but the guy lost a wife and kid, and almost another kid. You don't get completely over that, ever.

I'm Full of Soup said...

I am thinking of going to Ohio to vote a bazillion times.

Roberto said...

Palin is TOAST.

No substance, talking points over and over again.

AlphaLiberal said...

She's good at memorizing lines but she shows she doesn't really understand what she says.

Our "national security freedoms." What the hell does that mean?

Chip Ahoy said...

I think Ifill did a lot better than you guys are giving her credit for. I'm surprised, actually.

Dody Jane said...

WOW

Dody Jane said...

I love her again

Anonymous said...

"....without the filter of the mainstream media."

Beautiful. An inoculation against the shit that will flow immediately following the debate.

Mark said...

Palin can reference President Reagan. Biden can't refer back to a democrat president.

He could mention Bill Clinton, but that would just piss off the PUMAs.

The rule of Lemnity said...

This is the most important election of your life?

Over the top!

Chip Ahoy said...

Oh get off it already with the "last eight years" crap. Not all of us are depressed as you.

AlphaLiberal said...

This debate really blew the doors of McCain on Iraq/Afghanistan. 3 weeks of Iraq spending = 7 years of Afghanistan spending. Wow.

vbspurs said...

Biden's closing remarks are directed to the Beltway denizens, the Madison coffeehouses, the Seattle quasi-intelligentsia.

Palin looked straight to the Heartland.

She just swung a couple of battlegrounds tonight.

Palladian said...

Michael stepped through a wormhole and is in some weird other dimension. Maybe he'll be blown out as Hawking radiation. Dum Spero Spero.

vbspurs said...

May God bless Tiny Tim.

Anonymous said...

Alpha, Michael....please return to the children's table, finish your Cap'n Crunch and go to bed.

vbspurs said...

"Thank you, Gwen"

Gracious Palin.

The rule of Lemnity said...

Guen was the big looser!

Anonymous said...

He gets the last word...

Nichevo said...

Oh yeah, Sarah Palin is a bobblehead.

Like Nero Wolfe was a vegetarian.

Chip Ahoy said...

I love that song,

"I get knocked down, But I get up again, You're never gonna keep me down."

repeat
repeat
repeat
repeat
repeat

AlphaLiberal said...

Oh get off it already with the "last eight years" crap.

Ha-ha! Republicans wish we had instant amnesia.

Christy said...

First words out of Couric's mouth, "she did not embarrass herself or ..."

Anonymous said...

Why's her mic still live?

vbspurs said...

Brit Hume saying that Ifill was fair. MOOSECRAP.

Peter V. Bella said...

John Stodder,
Oh Bull. It is called ACTING!.. He is looking for the sympathy. Sympathy is in the dictionary between shit and syphillis.

Dody Jane said...

This was fun - she did just fine - you guys are fun - thanks for being here

vbspurs said...

Why's her mic still live?

Yes, and I'm sure Olbermann will loop her high-pitched comments.

AlphaLiberal said...

OK, can some Palin fan please explain this:

Our "national security freedoms." What the hell does that mean?

goesh said...

500+ comments - holy wow
Palin's faster pace makes her come across as very competent/intelligent, a bit smarter than Biden - she sure the heck exudes confidence - what happened to the dummy from up north???? gone, gone, gone

Meade said...

Biden neck scratch

idill

Biden choke up

Bi... bidenpartisan

joy of being American

only one man in this race who has really fought

Oow bama

'preciate that

bleeper said...

Blew the doors of - nice. But odd.

Anonymous said...

Brooks is giving her credit. "She didn't win the debate, but she held her own"

vbspurs said...

Chris Matthews going straight at Dick Cheney. That was a set-up, knock-down.

Anonymous said...

Why do we like Brooks again? Ah, yeah, we don't...

The rule of Lemnity said...

Palin won big time!

AlphaLiberal said...

Who is this General McClellan Palin was talking about?

Ger said...

"She won, I think most people will say. Now, she's able to say she likes to do these unscripted things."

So does that mean that the patriarch of this "partnership" will now let the little lady speak at some press conferences...all by her little ole self...in the remaining weeks of the election??

Palladian said...

"I love that song,

"I get knocked down, But I get up again, You're never gonna keep me down."

Too bad it was sung by commies.

vbspurs said...

Brooks is giving her credit. "She didn't win the debate, but she held her own"

Given that MSM and the Democrats out there thought this was going to be a tsunami-cum-earthquake of embarrassment for her, she won handily.

Nichevo said...

Held her own in silk underwear, that is. Biden did well not to overflow his Depends.

I missed the part where Biden snaps Palin in two like a toothpick, though. Maybe they will put it on youtube.

Anonymous said...

dody jane, *LOVE*!

bleeper said...

Lil Liberal doesn't even know American history, hence the "liberal" tag. Go read some, door blower.

Trumpit said...

I'd like to do Palin, and Palladian would like to do Biden.

Peter V. Bella said...

Our "national security freedoms." What the hell does that mean?

It means you are an asshole.

The Drill SGT said...

Ann,

you didn't comment on Biden's mislabeling of the purpose of Article 1? I thought he was a fellow Law School Prof?

Palladian said...

"Why do we like Brooks again? Ah, yeah, we don't..."

We never liked him in the first place.

Anonymous said...

Good night Miss Dody.

Palladian said...

So the talking points from the lefty blogs should be issued soon... expect a lefty onslaught within the quarter hour.

Nichevo said...

And good luck to 'em, they'll need it.

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