22 ઑક્ટોબર, 2008

I love Blogger!

You may have noticed that the comments box now appears at the bottom of the post page, looking very spiffy and making reading a comments thread much nicer.

But there's another improvement, the main improvement I've been hoping for. When the comments go over 200, they will appear on the post page once you add a comment. You won't have to click to comment and then click "newer." There is a downside, which is that you have to actually post a comment to see more than 200 comments.

ADDED: Oh, no, there's a problem. You have to post to see the comments beyond 200, but then you only see the comments on the group of 200 comments that your post fits, and then it's hard to see how you can ever get to any sets of 200 comments in between the first and the last. I don't think Blogger is thinking about posts that get more than 200 comments. How often does that happen (other than by some disastrous accumulation of spam)?

IN THE COMMENTS: AJ Lynch says:
It's very possible the new format will work fine for those posts done after the format change was introduced. Capiche?

Ah! I hope so. Quick, post a whole lot of comments here so we can find out. Post anything to get it up over 200 so with can test this theory.

UPDATE: Well, we pushed this up over 200 as a test, and, sadly, the news is bad. You won't see the over-200 comments unless you post, and at that point, you will only see the comments in the group of 200 to which your comment belongs. O, Blogger, why do you torment me this way?

UPDATE 2: Here's Blogger's explanation of the new function, recently moved out of Blogger Beta:
The embedded comment form is more convenient for your readers because they can use it to post a comment immediately, without clicking over to a different page. It also looks better, since it matches your blog’s style and colors.
That's true, but unfortunately, the problems we've encountered going beyond 200 comments make this unworkable for me. Fortunately, I can now see that this is an option, and going into "settings," I was able to go back to the old style.

429 ટિપ્પણીઓ:

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1775OGG કહ્યું...

Ah ha, use the subscriber email feature and click on "post comment" link!

Strange and not desirable!

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

Oh, no. It didn't work!

Oh, sadness! Sorrow!!!

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

Damn!!

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

After all that, I'm finding it hard to post a comment longer than one line. I feel as though everything should be broken up into tiny pieces.

Ann Althouse કહ્યું...

Thanks to all who helped perform this experiment. Sorry the outcome is not joyous.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

I dig the Subscribe feature though. That's a big plus.

But the impossibility of managing 200+ comments--yeah, that's bad. People tell me that Haloscan commenting is good and can be integrated into Blogger, but I don't have experience with it.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

Sorry the outcome is not joyous.

So it goes. Happy to help test.

I'm Full of Soup કહ્યું...

Phils win 3-2!!

1775OGG કહ્યું...

Yes! But another example of very poor software quality control and quality management on the part of web based software development shops!

What we need is either better systems analysis and design or better QA testing or perhaps all of the above. My vote if for the latter option!

Of course, criticizing Google's software is potentially dangerous to one's well-being! pity!

I'm Full of Soup કહ્યું...

So it's worse??!

I'm Full of Soup કહ્યું...

Programmers suck.

Bob કહ્યું...

Ann, you are quite the charmer to get these men to do your bidding!

nelda કહ્યું...

I have to post to see comments over 200???
Does it work?

Bob કહ્યું...

Hey, hey - lets not trash the programmers or you'll be finding yourself in some overflow heap.

nelda કહ્યું...

It worked!
I can go back to lurking. :)

Hector Owen કહ્યું...

I take it that Althouse's "when I should have been engaged in this" at 10:54 was number 200?

Hector Owen કહ્યું...

Must have been, now I see the new ones but not the older ones. And the un-editable preview: what's the point of that? This should have stayed in beta a bit longer.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

Shame on Blogger for having it out for implementation before it was ready.

Simon કહ્યું...

Seems to have worked!

Simon કહ્યું...

Oh no! It didn't!

Simon કહ્યું...

Freeman, it's a google product. From professional experience, I can tell you that this is par for the course.

nelda કહ્યું...

"I Love Blogger" is no longer an appropriate title for this post!

1775OGG કહ્યું...

Programmers would rule the world wisely except for the Dilbert type managers who couldn't wipe their own ass without help from their overly friendly Congressional Representatives!

Believe the world would be a much better place without those idiotic Dilbert type managers.

Hector Owen કહ્યું...

It seems to be possible to revert to the old style comments by going to settings, then the comments sub-tab, look for "Comment Form Placement", and select the radio button for "Full page." Since I can't tell if anyone's posted this already, I'll go ahead and post it myself.

nelda કહ્યું...

is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!

Christy કહ્યું...

There is nothing here to tell me if there are more comments after the last one I see when I post this.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

is there no way I can lurk without posting??!!

Google's like Obama. It demands that "you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zones. That you push yourselves to be better. And that you engage. [Google] will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual, uninvolved..."

Peter Hoh કહ્યું...

So are we just posting inane comments just to run the numbers up?

Simon કહ્યું...

Freeman - I'd be willing to bet that the amount of money google and its employees have given to obama is frightening.

After this season, the next time a democrat tells me that they're worried about the role of money in politics, they're getting kicked in the nuts for being a clueless sack of s***.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

Inane?! What do you mean, "inane?" These comments are exemplar. Anyway, we already passed 200.

Freeman Hunt કહ્યું...

Simon, I don't doubt it about the donations. Ha for the rest.

Just remember, it doesn't count if the money is there to help the candidate of truth and light and hope and change and peace and love etc etc etc.

bigbopper99 કહ્યું...

squirt

Christy કહ્યું...

Even worse, I cannot see a way to edit one's comments after previewing.

અજ્ઞાત કહ્યું...
આ ટિપ્પણી લેખક દ્વારા દૂર કરવામાં આવી છે.
Chris Althouse Cohen કહ્યું...

Well that's not so good.

rhhardin કહ્યું...

Rest assured that it appears on some recent graduate student's progress report this month, dysfunctional or not.

Justin કહ્યું...

test

reader_iam કહ્યું...

Just for fun, try clicking on [Atom]. Seriously.

This is not ready for prime time.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

I doff my chapeau to Freeman Hunt and AJ Lynch. You are real troopers!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

But yes, it doesn't work. You can't see later comments before you comment -- so how can you come into a 400-comment thread and make a current comment? And after commenting, seeing the first 200 is not easy.

I wonder what happens when the comments go over 400?

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Well, I could put in 147 comments to test that, but maybe I won't.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

I guess it would only be 146.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

145

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Wouldn't that be tedious?

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

If everyone commenter added 10 comments, though. Many hands make short work.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

What is Atom supposed to give you, btw?

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Paul's Club -- with the tree inside -- is still around. Titus asked that yesterday. Did anyone answer?

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

But I've never been there. I've been to very very few bars in Madison: Jingles, Regent St. Retreat, Badger Bowl, Merck's Trophy Tap, Village Bar, the Laurel, Pedro's. Hmm....maybe I've been to more than I realize.

Dust Bunny Queen કહ્યું...

This new comment thing really sucks. You can't comment on your blogger account without several tries. At least we could look at the the comments over 200 without having to post something.

I wonder.....do the people who program for Blogger actually blog? or do they ever comment on blogs? It's like a person who had never seen a car was making modifications to automobiles.

Dust Bunny Queen કહ્યું...

I suggest that Ann unsubsribe from this P.O.S. and go back to the old way until they figure it out.

Bissage કહ્યું...

My hovercraft is full of eels.

Bissage કહ્યું...

And I miss DOB.

** Sob **

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Oh no! I closed the window with posts >200, and now I can't see them! I have to post again!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

The best part of that skit was Graham Chapman running for blocks.

Nichevo કહ્યું...

test

are we there yet

Nichevo કહ્યું...

oh no this is wack

text test block: fgdhgfdf qwerty uiop hggggggggggj ghfjjjjjjjjjjjh gffffffffffffhj fggggggggggggj jhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhfg jjjjjjjj fgjhhhhhhhhf jjjjjjjjjjjjjjjhf gfjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjjg jhhhhhhhhhhhhhh gjfghfhjgf.

Now, quiz: how much $was that for obama?

Justin કહ્યું...

This is unacceptable. I have to post another useless comment, just to read the new comments since my last useless comment.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Or you can hit refresh, as long as you are on the page containing your useless comment. But for a 1000-comment thread, I'm not sure how you'll get to posts 201-999. The first 200 show up with the post, and the latest "200" show up when you comment. That's why we have to get past 400!

I agree with Dust Bunny Queen -- the people programming this obviously do not comment on blogs.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Just a bit less than 100 to go before the next phase of the test!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

I mean more.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

More!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

MORE!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

MORE!

Justin કહ્યું...

Ok, MadisonMan, I'll help you out.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

MORE!

Justin કહ્યું...

This is going to get very tedious.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

If only I didn't have a full-time job!

Justin કહ્યું...

yes, I can only continue for another 15 minutes

Justin કહ્યું...

by the way, I tried the Atom thing. Now I have a bookmark in my browser that seems to point to 20 or so comments. It does make it easier to look at the new comments, though.

Justin કહ્યું...

i just clicked the subscribe button. I wonder what my gmail inbox is going to look like tomorrow.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Well, maybe I shouldn't wish for that.

Justin કહ્યું...

Hmm. How about this:

If only I didn't have a full-time job, but still had the income.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

But I am curious how to see posts 201-400 once you go over 400 posts.

Justin કહ્યું...

this would be easier if blogger responded faster

Justin કહ્યું...

me too

Justin કહ્યું...

one more

Justin કહ્યું...

I get knocked down

Justin કહ્યું...

but I get up again

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Because if posts 201-400 can't be seen, why put effort into saying something noteworthy and witty.

Or if someone posts something you don't want seen, just post one word at a time 'til you get to the next multiple of 200, and those posts are orphaned.

Justin કહ્યું...

you're never gonna keep me down

Justin કહ્યું...

I get knocked down

Justin કહ્યું...

but I get up again

Justin કહ્યું...

you're never gonna keep me down

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

This would be easier if the hostess would implore people to push the total up past 400, not 200.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

And yes, blogger is slow. I keep getting the conflicted edits page. I hate that.

Justin કહ્યું...

I agree, mm.

Justin કહ્યું...

sorry

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Oh why can't you behave? (not you justin!)

Justin કહ્યું...

I think we should all get paid for beta testing

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

after all the things you told me,

Justin કહ્યું...

or maybe alpha testing

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

and the promises that you gave

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

oh, why can't you behave

Justin કહ્યું...

a consultant is supposed to call me soon to help me fix a problem. I'm not optimistic.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Did they test this at all? I say no.

Justin કહ્યું...

oh, you're singing too. I get it

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Why can't you be good

Justin કહ્યું...

I think they did, they just weren't rigorous enough.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

and do just as you should

Justin કહ્યું...

it reminds me of Y2K

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

wont' you turn that new leaf over

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

so your baby can be your slave

Justin કહ્યું...

they probably fired the intern who asked about blogs getting over 200 comments.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

oh, why can't you behave

Justin કહ્યું...

200 comments on a single post? That's crazy talk!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

We hired one person to deal with y2k issues. I was glad when he retired, he was boring.

Justin કહ્યું...

haiku I wrote just now:

I don't love blogger
commenting has always sucked
unless you're unknown

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Oops, compile's done, gotta go test something.

Intermission! Let's all go to the lobby, let's all go to the lobby, Let's all go to the lobby to get something to eat.

Justin કહ્યું...

when the world didn't end on 1/1/00, I wondered if it was all hype

Justin કહ્યું...

then I wondered how much money I could have made if I had become a Y2K consultant

Justin કહ્યું...

and now I wonder what all those Y2K consultants are doing now

Justin કહ્યું...

no one talks about Y2K anymore

Justin કહ્યું...

MM, you're a programmer? Why did I think you were a professor?

Justin કહ્યું...

I've lost 30 pounds this year. I guess new year's resolutions can work

Justin કહ્યું...

this is the most I've ever commented in one day

Justin કહ્યું...

but I'm really curious about what will happen

Justin કહ્યું...

it's sad to think that my brilliant haiku may be lost forever

Justin કહ્યું...

this makes me miss usenet

Justin કહ્યું...

long discussions were much easier with a decent (and often free) newsreader

Justin કહ્યું...

free software is cool, but who writes it and why?

Justin કહ્યું...

I could write free software, but since I'm not a programmer, it would probably suck

Justin કહ્યું...

if I was a programmer, I'd want to get paid for my skills

Justin કહ્યું...

should I therefore conclude that the people writing free software are not programmers and that the software therefore sucks?

Justin કહ્યું...

I used "therefore" twice in one sentence. very bad form

Justin કહ્યું...

Conflicting edits

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Justin કહ્યું...

I cannot safely conclude that, because I have used a great deal of free software that does not suck

Justin કહ્યું...

without MadisonMan here, it just looks silly

Justin કહ્યું...

I'll bet the consultant that's supposed to call me used to be a Y2K consultant

Justin કહ્યું...

I've fixed more problems than he has

Justin કહ્યું...

I hope he's not reading this comment thread. That would be embarrassing.

Justin કહ્યું...

wow, that was close. My boss just walked up behind me.

Justin કહ્યું...

he was wearing a suit (slightly unusual for him) and carrying some papers. He looked busy. I don't think he suspects.

Justin કહ્યું...

bathroom break

talk amongst yourselves

Justin કહ્યું...

no one filled in for me while I was gone. how depressing

Justin કહ્યું...

I want to nominate this thread for best ever

Justin કહ્યું...

I have election fatigue. I can barely muster the energy to vote.

Justin કહ્યું...

it's cold here today

Justin કહ્યું...

and by cold I mean 62°F

Justin કહ્યું...

it's as if winter came early!

Justin કહ્યું...

I actually wore a jacket to work today.

Justin કહ્યું...

and I'm definitely not wearing shorts anymore

Justin કહ્યું...

but I'm sure things will be back to normal soon

Justin કહ્યું...

sunny and low 80's this weekend

Justin કહ્યું...

we've had shockingly little rain lately

Justin કહ્યું...

well, except for the hurricane.

Justin કહ્યું...

Burma Shave

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Okay I'm back!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

There is snow in the forecast here.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

talk about unwelcome!

Justin કહ્યું...

that last comment was a joke I stole from my second favorite comic.

Justin કહ્યું...

snow is never in the forecast around here

Donn કહ્યું...

Hope and change.....such a failed policy!

Justin કહ્યું...

one day, last winter, it was a little rainy and the forecast said it was going to freeze over night. the city (Houston) practically shut down. There were cops out with their lights on reminding people to drive slowly.

Donn કહ્યું...

I actually wore a jacket to work today.

88 and sunny here in Calif today.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin કહ્યું...

not only can we not drive with ice on the road. we can't drive with a rumor of ice on the road.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Madam,

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today,

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

She's so sorry to be delayed

Justin કહ્યું...

bite me

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

But last evening down in Lover's Lane she strayed

Justin કહ્યું...

sorry, I channeled LuckyOldSon there for a minute

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Madam

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin કહ્યું...

we're up to 377

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

380!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

When she woke up and found that her dream of love had gone

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Madam

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

She ran to the man who led her so far astray

Justin કહ્યું...

I don't know that song

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

And from under her velvet gown

Justin કહ્યું...

I'm really not obsessed with Y2K

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

She drew a forty-four pistol (it's Cole Porter)

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

And she shot that dirty rascal down

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Madam

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Miss Otis regrets she's unable to lunch today

Justin કહ્યું...

sounds like Janie's Got a Gun

Justin કહ્યું...

what did her daddy do?

Justin કહ્યું...

it's Janie's last IOU

Justin કહ્યું...

she had to take him down easy and put a bullet in his brain

Justin કહ્યું...

hey hey hey hey

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

There are some lyrics pages from which you can't grab lines by mouse clicking, so I won't be writing Anything Goes for my next trick.

But we're near 400 anyway

Justin કહ્યું...

but man! he had it comin'

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

The whole thing's come un-done

Much like blogger!

Justin કહ્યું...

I type them from memory

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Althouse's got a gun!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Hey! How can I see comments 200-400!!!!!

Justin કહ્યું...

ok, we're over 400

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

I have to say that justin wrote the funniest thing on a blog page I have ever ever seen. It was around comment #380 -- sorry no one else can see it now!

It was better than the funniest joke ever written. I hope he didn't die!

Justin કહ્યું...

well, since you've been commenting all this time, you can hit the back button. Anyone who's coming straight to the page is out of luck.

There goes my brilliant haiku.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

(phew), he's posted again.

Justin કહ્યું...

Why thank you.

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

I know, I can sell a url that contains a link to a comment in the 201-400 range. Business opportunity knocks!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Blogger are you listening? This new posting protocol is piss poor.

Back to the drawing board! And back to work for me. Thanks Justin!

MadisonMan કહ્યું...

Couldn't have done it without you!

Justin કહ્યું...

I've been looking for a good money-making scheme! Now you've got competition!

Justin કહ્યું...

No problem. It was fun. Wanna hang out and see what happens at 1000?

Justin કહ્યું...

1000 bottles of beer on the wall, 1000 bottles of beer. Take one down, pass it around. 999 bottles of beer on the wall!

Justin કહ્યું...

who's with me?

Justin કહ્યું...

is this thing on?

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