tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post937758870836132317..comments2024-03-28T23:45:00.197-05:00Comments on Althouse: Did you see Nancy Pelosi on "RuPaul's Drag Race" last night?Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-69102036598045642702018-03-10T07:03:54.094-06:002018-03-10T07:03:54.094-06:00AuthentizitätAuthentizitätChar Char Binks, Esq.https://www.blogger.com/profile/10649888089413308406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1199783247589086662018-03-09T17:40:21.559-06:002018-03-09T17:40:21.559-06:00"what makes you think you're so authentic...<i>"what makes you think you're so authentic?"</i><br /><br />Unlike Pelosi, I made no claim. In fact, I might be fairly described as a bullshit artist. That doesn't affect my ability to evaluate usage of a word that has a meaning. <br /><br />If authenticity cannot be judged, what meaning does it have? If literally anything you decide to be or do or portray counts as "authentic" as long as you say it is, then what is left to be inauthentic? The inclusive definition is unfalsifiable, and thus worthless. <br /><br />It reminds me of a discussion I once had about Rick Bayless, who runs fabulous restaurants in Chicago that are billed as "authentic Mexican cuisine." But we're in Chicago, and it's prepared by a white guy. It may be the best facsimile of Mexican food you can get, and it's legitimately great, but it ain't "authentic". fivewheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00511002180195360137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91198890038492125982018-03-09T15:13:12.817-06:002018-03-09T15:13:12.817-06:00"None of these guys dress up as Pelosi."..."None of these guys dress up as Pelosi."<br /><br />Oh, that absolutely could be something that would happen in the "Drag Race" competition. They do lots of different kinds of women. For example, just on last night's show, they had a comedy sketch based on "Bridesmaids" where there were 5 characters based on different Oscar winning roles and one of them was the Helen Mirren performance in "The Queen" — Queen Elizabeth. And at the end of the show, the performer who won, came out in a housecoat, looking very fat and ripped it off and was dressed in a bikini (with a fat suit). We laughed out loud. So I could see the role of Pelosi being something they might be assigned to do, definitely, and I'd love to see it. She has so many mannerisms that could be exaggerated to comic effect. It would work really well. For all I know, it has been done on the show, but mostly they stay out of politics (other than the inherent politics of the gender performance).Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34868911060095744752018-03-09T14:29:37.396-06:002018-03-09T14:29:37.396-06:00Althouse added:
"IN THE COMMENTS: Everyone j...Althouse added:<br /><br />"IN THE COMMENTS: Everyone jumps on that word "authenticity." ...Yeah? Well, when a person putting on a show is in costume and makeup, you could say he's an authentic showperson. And, anyway, what makes you think you're so authentic?"<br /><br />From my comment above above:<br /><br />"Authenticity is, in this usage, how you want to be perceived...<br /><br />The desire to dictate other people's perceptions of you is what is most authentic here...<br /><br />This is not an observation that belongs only to drag queens...<br /><br />Those who believe they are a gatekeeper of authenticity believe their right to do so is authentic...<br /><br />But when authenticity is tied to self-identity then the very idea of authenticity contains some degree of cultural appropriation: only those like me can validate it. To attribute authenticity to one of another culture is to appropriate that culture's concept of authenticity..."<br /><br />I attempted to answer Althouse's questions before she asked them, and I believe the answers are still valid.<br /><br />Authenticity is seen by many as not a unique truth, but instead is expressed as an evaluation of how someone is perceived, and how that evaluation is filtered through context and the culture of the one perceiving.<br /><br />Outside of the judging culture the word has no meaning.<br /><br />Is an African with a bone through his nose "authentic"?<br /><br />What if it is in a photograph in National Geographic?<br /><br />What if it is in a cartoon on a white-supremacy site?<br /><br />Both usages believe they are conveying a view of what is 'authentic' about the subject, but neither would agree with the other's perception.<br /><br />What about an African magazine doing a photo feature on American drag queens? Are they expected to defer to our concept of authenticity, or can they reject it wholesale on account of cultural incompatibility?<br /><br />All of this leads to:<br /><br />Declarations of Authenticity become a sign of a Culture's Propaganda about itself.<br /><br />Of course, the neglect of Althouse not including me in her list of commenter call-outs only makes my comments more authentic.<br /><br />I have not sold out to the Man.<br /><br />The Germans have a word for this.the 4chan Guy who reads Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05781505860735876035noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51653040210367556942018-03-09T12:08:01.248-06:002018-03-09T12:08:01.248-06:00I've never thought men in drag was funny. Not ...I've never thought men in drag was funny. Not Uncle Milty, not <i>Some Like It Hot</i>, not RuPaul, not anything. It just seems D-U-M DUM. <br /><br />Like clowns. I don't hate them or fear them. They're just stupid and not funny. Anthonyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05973774692416760687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63837002382819690102018-03-09T12:06:06.901-06:002018-03-09T12:06:06.901-06:00"And, anyway, what makes you think you're...<i>"And, anyway, what makes you think you're so authentic?"</i><br /><br />Because I don't know how to be anybody else. I've tried a few times, and people tell me to stop it. I failed every time. If I can't be anybody else, even with effort, then I think I've found my authentic self. bagoh20https://www.blogger.com/profile/10915174575358413637noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83368624709059288222018-03-09T11:48:42.596-06:002018-03-09T11:48:42.596-06:00FWIW Pelosi claims to be Catholic yet strongly sup...FWIW Pelosi claims to be Catholic yet strongly supports policies condemned by the Church. she's a Cino "Catholic in name only". sparrowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01693437681522726538noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22559848536753710912018-03-09T11:45:00.607-06:002018-03-09T11:45:00.607-06:00Isn't that a conflict of interest? I mean Pelo...Isn't that a conflict of interest? I mean Pelosi being both a judge and a contestant? TheDopeFromHopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11126441418165359865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60707490825407971532018-03-09T10:45:31.453-06:002018-03-09T10:45:31.453-06:00That was Nancy Pelosi? Oh. I thought that was a Ru...That was Nancy Pelosi? Oh. I thought that was a RuPaul bit.<br />My bad.Rustyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00938263272237104128noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56455524294281901482018-03-09T10:26:47.532-06:002018-03-09T10:26:47.532-06:00The Frankie and the Four Seasons is better. But bo...The Frankie and the Four Seasons is better. But both scream 1967. FV & 4S for their over the top production values and James "I did a hit of blotter" more authentic take.Heartless Aztechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10239870131881488916noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67168263198151317482018-03-09T10:25:13.692-06:002018-03-09T10:25:13.692-06:00Nancy is a rich woman, married to a rich banker, a...Nancy is a rich woman, married to a rich banker, and she has a taste for expensive clothes and cosmetic surgery. If RuPaul thinks he has to go through a lot of prep for his impersonation, think of the gymnastics Nancy has to go through to appear as a woman of the people and champion of the underdog. Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28344621835018030932018-03-09T10:21:17.873-06:002018-03-09T10:21:17.873-06:00Did you see Nancy Pelosi on "RuPaul's Dra...<i>Did you see Nancy Pelosi on "RuPaul's Drag Race" last night?</i><br /><br />No.Darrellhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11277966379512526469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78766590025217668382018-03-09T10:19:34.134-06:002018-03-09T10:19:34.134-06:00Here's a slightly better shot of "Ariel&q...<a href="https://issuu.com/cvweekly/docs/cvw120816_done" rel="nofollow">Here's a slightly better shot of "Ariel" and her pink Caddy.</a><br /><br />Mike (MJB Wolf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00936808380090258703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59495852722300503582018-03-09T10:18:24.778-06:002018-03-09T10:18:24.778-06:00Crazy is the new normal. Political statement to fo...Crazy is the new normal. Political statement to follow.......Bay Area Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342949066248487677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73351243127530837032018-03-09T10:17:10.741-06:002018-03-09T10:17:10.741-06:00Authentic..and legit! Not to mention pukka, the re...Authentic..and legit! Not to mention pukka, the real McCoy, and genuine Corinthian leather. It's all there, and it's really fake. If authentic means really fake, then it's authentic.<br /><br />The Trump Organization would like to do you a favor and get you into a top, top building at a top address that includes a membership in a top, top golf club. There aren't many left, but they think they can get you in. It's authentic!Amadeus 48 https://www.blogger.com/profile/15907486643353591432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47909869148162995142018-03-09T10:15:37.350-06:002018-03-09T10:15:37.350-06:00In a little bit of serendipity, two posts have con...In a little bit of serendipity, two posts have converged for me. One of the local drag queens is Arial Trampway (a take on the arial tram that conducts visitors to Palm Springs up to Santa Rosa peak 8000 feet above the valley). <a href="https://www.gaydesertguide.com/articles/0315/gypsy-says-ps-i-love-you-because.html" rel="nofollow">You can see her standing next to her Barbie-style pink Cadillac convertible on this page.</a> Couldn't find a better photo of her and her car but as you might expect, she's very easy to spot around town. The Caddy is hot metallic pink.<br /><br />So we gotta Barbie drag queen in the mix, although she's definitely a Bratz-type of personality.Mike (MJB Wolf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00936808380090258703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10605240985732843342018-03-09T10:14:50.029-06:002018-03-09T10:14:50.029-06:00I just remember my late step-monster (coincidental...I just remember my late step-monster (coincidentally named Nancy) used to do something similar to that mouth-motion Pelosi did at the SOTU. Could they be trying to prevent drooling due to botox? The monster was on so many medications, I figured it was from those.Ralph Lhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07915708905660273961noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35538008279146830742018-03-09T10:08:55.091-06:002018-03-09T10:08:55.091-06:00"Every time you get into drag, you make a pol..."Every time you get into drag, you make a political statement"<br /><br />The Statement - "I am really stupid, so I vote Democrat"Bay Area Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342949066248487677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39947961601840777502018-03-09T10:05:44.177-06:002018-03-09T10:05:44.177-06:00As they say, if you can fake authenticity, you hav...As they say, if you can fake authenticity, you have it made.MadisonManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01212179466758420208noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71879685247444503952018-03-09T10:02:40.829-06:002018-03-09T10:02:40.829-06:00Regarding "authenticty" one must acknowl...Regarding "authenticty" one must acknowledge that the Facebook phenomenon is a giant eminence front for the hoi polloi. People posting photos and articles and "updates" that are every bit as fake as all the MSM/DNC russiagate media missives, living virtual inauthentic lives. At least the drag racers are saying, "Look. This is me. This is who I am. This is what I do."<br /><br />It ain't my bag. Even if I did like dress-up I'm not sure I could organize my whole <i> life</i> around such a proclivity. But these people do. And I live in Palm Springs where nightly drag shows are common and several drag "stars" do actually star in nightly shows around town. So I believe that this "authenticity" that the Drag Race guys project is at least an honest attempt to "be who they think they should be."<br /><br />Are YOU being the best you can be?Mike (MJB Wolf)https://www.blogger.com/profile/00936808380090258703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67939906479478617772018-03-09T10:02:01.395-06:002018-03-09T10:02:01.395-06:00As for RuPaul and Nancy Pelosi, one is an aging, p...As for RuPaul and Nancy Pelosi, one is an aging, phony, drama queen and the other is....RuPaul.Bay Area Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342949066248487677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90541441759167979952018-03-09T09:57:50.274-06:002018-03-09T09:57:50.274-06:00What and who the hell is authentic anymore? And wh...What and who the hell is authentic anymore? And what is authenticity anyways? Kudos to them. The President is following in their footsteps. A truly authentic president. Yeah, when I think of authenticity, the first thing that pops into my mind is Trump pretending to be President. Gary Kirkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06180979845964580096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71054105192132731792018-03-09T09:56:16.196-06:002018-03-09T09:56:16.196-06:00As a Libertarian, I prefer Rand Paul to RuPaul.As a Libertarian, I prefer Rand Paul to RuPaul.Bay Area Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342949066248487677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83005861431534609452018-03-09T09:54:55.713-06:002018-03-09T09:54:55.713-06:00Nancy Pelosi with RuPaul and multiple, biracial, b...Nancy Pelosi with RuPaul and multiple, biracial, bisexual drag queens?<br /><br />For comedic purposes, this is called a "target rich environment"Bay Area Guyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08342949066248487677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-31327609911003064322018-03-09T09:51:33.881-06:002018-03-09T09:51:33.881-06:00O authentic, drag queens authentic -- quite a morn...O authentic, drag queens authentic -- quite a morning.Sebastianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00505631054204611033noreply@blogger.com