tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8668902624747656712..comments2024-03-29T09:53:31.075-05:00Comments on Althouse: "I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger58125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11166278086591035032013-08-23T13:36:45.296-05:002013-08-23T13:36:45.296-05:00It appears this young person was a very confused a...It appears this young person was a very confused and troubled soldier. Why was he, or she, given access to classified records?MD Greenehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00675532021705182467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46528695057147382902013-08-23T06:43:34.753-05:002013-08-23T06:43:34.753-05:00I heard "Chelsea" and thought "hote...I heard "Chelsea" and thought "hotel".Maddadhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18248899393443296479noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42152495022702708382013-08-23T06:37:03.026-05:002013-08-23T06:37:03.026-05:00I said,
"Manning was deeply confused to beli...I said,<br /><br /><i>"Manning was deeply confused to believe that making the world aware of a war crime--caught on video and audio--would be seen as a greater crime than...etc."</i><br /><br />Of course, I <i>meant</i>:<br /><br /><i>"Manning was deeply confused to <b>not know</b> that making the world aware of a war crime...would be seen as a greater crime than...etc."</i>Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28920139834676985902013-08-23T05:53:58.312-05:002013-08-23T05:53:58.312-05:00"Totally within ROE."
Perhaps so, (alth...<i>"Totally within ROE."</i><br /><br />Perhaps so, (although the assertion is not self-evidently true), but then, we were careful to legalize torture before--uh, <i>after</i> we had already begun torturing. So, no problem!Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-81194368982889981382013-08-23T01:39:24.961-05:002013-08-23T01:39:24.961-05:00What saddens me is that convicted criminals, servi...What saddens me is that convicted criminals, serving time in prison, can get free therapy and surgery while law abiding citizens with gender identity issues have to wait and pay through the nose.<br /><br />Even with surgery, the transgendered is not genetically the other gender. If a skeleton is looked at in the future, the skeleton will be determined to be the birth gender of the person. Genetic testing will show the birth gender of the person. kimschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15742219426291395677noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7384830379444787042013-08-22T21:02:47.667-05:002013-08-22T21:02:47.667-05:00He is an unattractive male and a less unattractive...He is an unattractive male and a less unattractive female.<br /><br />Titushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06593014816206957874noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18625555813183098182013-08-22T20:39:43.506-05:002013-08-22T20:39:43.506-05:00How does sexuality enter into this, Ann? Your post...How does sexuality enter into this, Ann? Your post confused me!<br /><br />Manning's announcement, whether you take it at face value or not, had nothing to do with his sex life, but everything to do with the identity that she wishes to assume. <br /><br />The Armed Forces don't make provisions for the sexual expression of those serving prison sentences or in fact for those just serving, and that is not going to change for Manning. Comfort women are neither deployed with the troops nor provided in the stir. It's the military - get used to it. <br /><br />My understanding is that medical clinics/hospitals that provide transitioning services do so after pretty intensive counseling (to avoid sudden bouts of global amnesia and accusations of spousal abuse for having the wrong underwear on) and I wouldn't expect the prison authorities to do any less, regardless of whether Manning starts on hormones while in the brig or not. <br /><br />There is something about this which seems "off", therefore. I can imagine one set of lawsuits demanding that Manning get hormones, followed three years later by a lawsuit alleging military medical malpractice for not following the correct medical practice standards, which had led to an "OMG, I've got boobs," moment for the much-oppressed and persecuted Manning. <br /><br />Homosexuality and gender dysphoria are two separate issues. One red flag is the claim that he has always felt this way - <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18981931" rel="nofollow">most gender dysphoric children</a> grow out of it, it seems. But gender dysphoria is not all that well-aligned with <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/3592961" rel="nofollow">original homosexuality.</a> MaxedOutMamahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08011469804162511617noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-70219536509278161652013-08-22T20:33:13.489-05:002013-08-22T20:33:13.489-05:00"I looked at some video of Manning today, &qu...<i>"I looked at some video of Manning today, "Bradley Manning Speaks: In Leaked Court Recording, in which he describes how upset he was about footage showing civilians being shot and his belief that if the American people knew, blablabla, etc. He seemed to have no idea of what happens in wars, and was deeply confused if he believed that the world would be changed by his revelations. He wised up and that's why he ultimately took the pragmatic route of pleading guilty and apologized."</i><br /><br />Yes, he was deeply confused to be shocked at footage of an American helicoptor crew taking aim on unarmed non-belligerents walking in the open on the ground and slaughtering them for no reason. He was deeply confused to be sickened at the sight of the American air crew opening fire on a man who arrived on the scene in his vehicle, who tried to aid the men who had just been blown away, killing him and seriously wounding his two children who were with him in his van. He was deeply confused to be repelled by the dismissive banter of the airborne American murderers throughout their murder spree and who, upon hearing there were children in the vehicle they had just swiss-cheesed with bullets, snorted they "he should have known better than to bring kids onto a battlefield." (Of course, it hadn't been a battlefield at all, but a killing floor, with the airborne American butchers having at the human cattle helpless below them on the ground.) Manning was deeply confused to believe that making the world aware of a war crime--caught on video and audio--would be seen as a greater crime than that committed by the cowards in the helicopter, or than the crimes of the powerful men in Washington ordering murder at large and torture on helpless captives, (in service to their illegal war in Iraq) or than the crimes of the psychopaths who carried out the torture ordered by the powerful men in Washington, (and that it would end up bringing retribution on him while the powerful men in Washington and their psychopathic minions in the torture rooms and flying gunships live untroubled by the least fear of punishment).<br /><br />It's too fucking bad more of his fellow soldiers are not similarly naive.<br /><br />He did wise up enough to grovel before the court before sentencing, making an apology in hopes it would win him some mercy from the court, that it might buy him the hope he could one day walk free, that he wouldn't die in prison after decades of captivity merely for letting the world know the crimes committed by us "to defend our freedoms."Robert Cookhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06951286299515983901noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77775180786638156782013-08-22T20:27:56.911-05:002013-08-22T20:27:56.911-05:00Cedarford said:
"(Manning) discredits (other ...Cedarford said:<br />"(Manning) discredits (other gay soldiers)."<br /><br />Cookie said: "Manning's brave and noble act of conscience is a credit to himself and discredits all his fellow soldiers who participate in such crimes as Manning revealed or know of them but remain silent."<br /><br />================<br />To perhaps illuminate Cookie, who never served, Manning was a rear echelon guy that knew nothing of combat or ROE. The guy was so far from a warrior that the female sargeant he sucker punched proceeded to beat Bradley up, pin him down, then file charges on his craven ass.<br />The Apache incident was reviewed and the guys were not only cleared, but given an additional commendations.<br /><br />The way it works, Cookie, is that if you are a jihadist working part-time for Reuters, and you embed right in the middle of a group of 25 jihadists directly engaging approaching US soldiers with fire...You-Just-Might-Get-Whacked!<br /><br />If you are an idiot jihadist and think it is a great idea to take your kids in a van into the middle of a firefight to help assist the fighters....You-Just-Might-Get-Whacked!<br /><br />Totally within ROE.<br />Not that Manning had a clue. He watched it with no more knowledge of the ways of deadly violence in war than some teen girl appalled at the violence in a football game. Manning lived his "duty" as a Fobbit and a poor Fobbit at that, in a cozy air-conditioned room safe behind a fence guarded by far better men than he....clueless of the existence both our soldiers actually fighting and the brave Islamoids trying to kill them in turn, lived and died in. <br /> <br /><br />Cedarfordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00602418702398818596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43367821351817124882013-08-22T18:39:56.571-05:002013-08-22T18:39:56.571-05:00Why is it that some Islamist soldiers and gender-c...Why is it that some Islamist soldiers and gender-confused soldiers put a higher value on their religion/confusion than their oath to protect?harkinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073907403358616607noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24973102991181627582013-08-22T17:34:46.425-05:002013-08-22T17:34:46.425-05:00I was dismayed to see that someone took umbrage at...I was dismayed to see that someone took umbrage at my earlier, 11:58 comment. Hillary's greatest gift has always been her prescience. Not only was she aware at a very young age that she was destined to climb mountains, but she chose to name herself after a man who would in a few years become a famous mountain climber. You can't get more prescient than that. That's why she was so successful as a commodities trader. Prescience. And that's why she was able to walk through heavy sniper fire with such grace and decorum. Prescience......That's why it saddens me to see that she has named her child after a transgendered traitor. Her great gift of prescience has apparently deserted her. How much more prescient she would have been had she named her daughter something more distinguished and distinctive like, for example, Fluke. Williamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07837540030934495651noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18962762379672157882013-08-22T16:45:51.310-05:002013-08-22T16:45:51.310-05:00The Netflix Original series "Orange is the Ne...The Netflix Original series "Orange is the New Black" features a transgender prisoner who is having hormone replacement drug withheld.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48776655727346790432013-08-22T16:44:59.286-05:002013-08-22T16:44:59.286-05:00If he wants to transform to Chelsia, more power to...If he wants to transform to Chelsia, more power to him/her. It doesn't appear that her gender is hurting anyone else, so why should anyone else worry about it?<br /><br />A more interesting question is why so many boys are interested in assuming the female role. Is it because the culture denigrates the male gender so much that male children wish they were female? Perhaps it is because of the phytoestrogens, plasticizers, and estrogen mimics which are ubiquitous in the environment. It also appears that average male sperm counts are dropping nationally. In education, income, and potency, males are an endangered segment of society. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/9722963/Male-fertility-under-threat-as-average-sperm-counts-drop.html Illuninatihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11423190828865695564noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82770488083897512242013-08-22T15:59:52.418-05:002013-08-22T15:59:52.418-05:00"“I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female."
..."“I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female."<br /><br />Well, no, you're not.<br /><br />You may be <i>feminine</i> (or at least think of yourself as feminine) but you are not and never will be <i>female</i>.<br /><br />Is it really so difficult to separate <i>gender</i> from <i>sex</i>?Peterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16099940931064117337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76147762200082584672013-08-22T15:40:06.786-05:002013-08-22T15:40:06.786-05:00At least, Private Manning will have the right to h...<i>At least, Private Manning will have the right to have babies!</i><br /><br />Splitter!Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18843231696112436682013-08-22T15:39:31.112-05:002013-08-22T15:39:31.112-05:00Today, less than a day after sentencing, is the ve...Today, less than a day after sentencing, is the very first that I've heard of his/her/it's feelings about what gender it is. Could be I missed it, but has there been ANY indication prior to this that Manning (lol, pun-tastic last name, no?) felt this way prior to being sentenced to a rape factory for 35 years?Scott Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02459388007426664813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11131612833423102782013-08-22T15:20:43.587-05:002013-08-22T15:20:43.587-05:00 “I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the w... “I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible. I hope that you will support me in this transition.” <br /><br />And I want the United States to pay for it.Crunchy Froghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12817138913728820310noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11949061444394320212013-08-22T15:20:08.135-05:002013-08-22T15:20:08.135-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.doustoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04483176217462188348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5677081789017053662013-08-22T15:19:49.895-05:002013-08-22T15:19:49.895-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.doustoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04483176217462188348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87427484832883476652013-08-22T15:15:49.335-05:002013-08-22T15:15:49.335-05:00Chelsea is just getting ready for an exciting pris...Chelsea is just getting ready for an exciting prison career.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60601402898514187452013-08-22T15:15:17.455-05:002013-08-22T15:15:17.455-05:00Okay, who gets the rights and how quickly do they ...Okay, who gets the rights and how quickly do they bring this heart-warming tale to an off-Broadway stage? You KNOW they are having slapfights over who gets to write and produce this masterpiece!doustoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04483176217462188348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27945897746307910202013-08-22T15:10:50.166-05:002013-08-22T15:10:50.166-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.doustoihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04483176217462188348noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74274361511167783352013-08-22T14:45:42.536-05:002013-08-22T14:45:42.536-05:00I looked at some video of Manning today, "Br...I looked at some video of Manning today, <a href="http://youtu.be/LIDpsE5tS0I" rel="nofollow"> "Bradley Manning Speaks: In Leaked Court Recording,</a> in which he describes how upset he was about footage showing civilians being shot and his belief that if the American people knew, blablabla, etc. He seemed to have no idea of what happens in wars, and was deeply confused if he believed that the world would be changed by his revelations. He wised up and that's why he ultimately took the pragmatic route of pleading guilty and apologized.<br /><br />One thing he said was poignantly true about his intentions for leaking info: <br />4:23 -4:38 "… this could spark a domestic debate on the role of the military and our foreign policy in general as well as it related to Iraq and Afghanistan. I also believed the detailed analysis of the data over a long period of time by different sectors of society might cause society to reevaluate the need or even the desire to even engage in counterterrorism and counterinsurgency operations that ignore the complex dynamics of the people living in the effected environment everyday."<br /><br />I would agree that there has been a fundamental error in our policy towards conservative Muslim countries to introduce our concepts of "equality and freedom" where these concepts contradict the culture and religious beliefs of the people.<br /><br />Rosalyn C.https://www.blogger.com/profile/05868527120018363058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-53473643055918590912013-08-22T14:07:17.715-05:002013-08-22T14:07:17.715-05:00Does this mean we can blame Manning's being ...Does this mean we can blame Manning's being easily deceived and foolish on his being a woman?<br /><br />The should rename him Womaning, or Eve.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28484096765620706422013-08-22T14:03:10.767-05:002013-08-22T14:03:10.767-05:00(the other kev)
I really hope the idiot that vett...(the other kev)<br /><br />I really hope the idiot that vetted this freak finishes his or her military career at a weather station in Greenland.Kevhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12713742157612017197noreply@blogger.com