tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8493045390640369357..comments2024-03-28T15:35:21.498-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Want to see a corpse on a can of Pringles?"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger69125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27214210733898329342011-07-06T22:44:01.459-05:002011-07-06T22:44:01.459-05:00Whenever I used to see a big "Marlboro" ...Whenever I used to see a big "Marlboro" decal on the back wing of Michael Schumaker's Ferrari, I was compelled to go out and purchase a huge 100pack case of cigarettes, but then realized that I didn't smoke anymore and so it was all quite a waste of my hard-earned coin.<br />Now, when I watch the races, I see big decals for "Vodaphone" and "Mercedes" and "Johnny Walker Red" and I'm compelled to go out and drive very fast in a test-drive Mercedes and (in between large draughts of the "J-Walk") talking on my cell phone. But I don't do any of that stuff either.<br />I ought to tell you that this sort of advertising doesn't really compel me to do much of anything other than what I would rather be doing in any case.<br />But mebbe I'm just uninfluenceable (which is seemingly not really a word but instead something that can only be found here --> http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/unresponsive <-- as a synonymous adjective to unresponsive).<br />Which is all really a way to say that advertising does not do so much as the people paid to do the advertising say it does.Anga2010https://www.blogger.com/profile/03065973927621559044noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-55135094697963844632011-07-06T22:24:48.402-05:002011-07-06T22:24:48.402-05:00Seems to me that the First Amendment would also pr...Seems to me that the First Amendment would also prohibit the government from compelling speech. The private party has a right to say nothing. Does anyone know if the Supreme Court has ruled on this?David Aitkenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03790977229171820798noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22310729258144880562011-07-06T17:50:43.890-05:002011-07-06T17:50:43.890-05:00It's well to remember that tabacco companies v...It's well to remember that tabacco companies voluntarily agreed to the initial warnings in an effort to avoid this type of coercive crap from the government. No good deed shall go unpunished.Strelnikovhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12520900676193170036noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16572870345616992352011-07-06T16:52:21.958-05:002011-07-06T16:52:21.958-05:00Re the meme that smoking causes lung cancer:
BULL...Re the meme that smoking causes lung cancer:<br /><br />BULLSHIT!<br /><br />If smoking caused lung cancer, you would need about 80% or more of smokers to get lung cancer.<br /><br />Actual rate? Less than 10%. IIRC, non-smokers get lung cancer at about a 4.5% rate and smokers at about 9.5%.<br /><br />If more than 90% of smokers do not get lung cancer, saying smoking "causes" cancer is<br /><br />BULLSHIT!<br /><br />Per the Centers for Disease Control. <br /><br />(I used to teach a case study on the social impact of tobacco and have more info than a normal person should be allowed to have)<br /><br />John HenryJohn henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-50416877104477675172011-07-06T16:45:15.636-05:002011-07-06T16:45:15.636-05:00I seem to remember that perhaps 10-20 years ago Ca...I seem to remember that perhaps 10-20 years ago Canada(?) tried something like this. Maybe they still do it. <br /><br />Anyway, one company tried to introduce a brand of cigarettes called "Death's head" or some such and was forbidden to do so.<br /><br />Seems to me there would be marketing opportunity for a tobacco company to take the bull by the horns with some aggessive advertising.<br /><br />"Diehard Cigarettes: Because nobody should live forever"<br /><br />Or<br /><br />"We're all going to die, some of us will enjoy the road there"<br /><br />Or<br /><br />You didn't really expect to live forever, did you?"<br /><br />Or<br /><br />"Sudden Death cancer sticks: Now with twice the nicotine"<br /><br />I'll bet that this would attract a lot of people who are just sick and tired of govt interference and would welcome an opportunity to tell the govt "Fuck You!"<br /><br />John HenryJohn henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9418711251524728832011-07-06T16:36:49.651-05:002011-07-06T16:36:49.651-05:00John Austin said:
A better name, one that reflect...John Austin said:<br /><br />A better name, one that reflects the true cause, would be 'Carbohydrate Poisoning'.<br /><br />-----<br /><br />I liked it and went straight to GoDaddy to register the domain. www.carbohydratepoisoning.com<br /><br />Sorry, it has already been taken. It is owned by a woman in Mexico and she flogs diets on the site. <br /><br />Kind of a bizarre site. <br /><br />John HenryJohn henryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13529920006532904660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-91679037099762763542011-07-06T15:37:59.650-05:002011-07-06T15:37:59.650-05:00As long as we're into bad taste, how about the...As long as we're into bad taste, how about the First Family being the models?<br /><br />Your ass will look like this if you eat these. Ever seen a skinny, early stage lung cancer victim?<br /><br />If I have to endure this propaganda, I might as well enjoy it.<br /><br />WV: abion. You can't spell abortion without it, and there are no warning labels.MarkDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05386529130897728870noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64949119921130870782011-07-06T15:01:10.451-05:002011-07-06T15:01:10.451-05:00mariner said...
Thank you for that link. I was s...mariner said... <br /><br /><i>Thank you for that link. I was surprised at the publication date.</i><br /><br />I just reread it for the first time in decades. It's even more prescient than I remembered. It's like the nanny state used it as a blueprint.Martin L. Shoemakerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02554126977342152497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28351196844908798482011-07-06T14:44:02.497-05:002011-07-06T14:44:02.497-05:00Can I suggest Mr. Creosote as the first image for ...Can I suggest Mr. Creosote as the first image for the Pringles can.<br /><br />(Although probably more appropriate on a box of thin mints.)Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17290151672455278672011-07-06T14:39:50.425-05:002011-07-06T14:39:50.425-05:00Pogo,
Guess when this was written:
Governmental ...Pogo,<br /><br />Guess when this was written:<br /><br /><i>Governmental power will introduce itself into every corner of the country. It will wait upon the ladies at their toilette. It will enter the house of every gentleman; watch over his cellar; wait upon his cook in the kitchen; penetrate into the most humble cottage; and it will touch the head of every person in the United States. And to all of these different people the message from the government will be the same: give, Give, GIVE!<br /></i>marinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03435598676103731157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21710032415215464422011-07-06T14:36:32.735-05:002011-07-06T14:36:32.735-05:00Martin L. Shoemaker,
Thank you for that link. I w...Martin L. Shoemaker,<br /><br />Thank you for that link. I was surprised at the publication date.marinerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03435598676103731157noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6812369627612725602011-07-06T14:19:41.209-05:002011-07-06T14:19:41.209-05:00Do you think if technology keeps up with the sensi...Do you think if technology keeps up with the sensitizing issue, we'll have paper displays on the packages showing a time-lapse video of a healthy, vivacious woman degrading into a pile of dust while chain-smoking? Maybe packaging that makes your hands smell like a cancerous lung all day?<br /><br />Oh, I know! I know! Fill the packages with those spring-snakes that pop out and scare you when you open the lid. It will craft a Pavlovian aversion to smoking!<br /><br />Why aren't I working at the FDA? Shiiiiiit.coketownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11257222645480570714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25013161338089733952011-07-06T14:12:46.634-05:002011-07-06T14:12:46.634-05:00It's like a brainstem response.It's like a brainstem response.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90570283284296848122011-07-06T14:06:12.307-05:002011-07-06T14:06:12.307-05:00...my wayward son....my wayward son.KCFleminghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00124201866124646626noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-3286798512089996522011-07-06T13:58:01.564-05:002011-07-06T13:58:01.564-05:00"Meat actually is a corpse."
And it'..."Meat actually is a corpse."<br /><br />And it's not even a fresh corpse. It's carrion.<br /><br />Carry on!Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74974090120217604952011-07-06T13:27:16.883-05:002011-07-06T13:27:16.883-05:00Packets of mustard have a picture of a bottle of m...Packets of mustard have a picture of a bottle of mustard on them.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-73448261505437988262011-07-06T13:26:12.334-05:002011-07-06T13:26:12.334-05:00Meat actually is a corpse.
Maybe they could put a...Meat actually is a corpse.<br /><br />Maybe they could put a picture of meat on meat.rhhardinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06901742898653890646noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88457783358424353672011-07-06T13:19:37.840-05:002011-07-06T13:19:37.840-05:00There is a big difference between eating a few Pri...There is a big difference between eating a few Pringles and smoking a cigarette. You can consistently eat Pringles as part of a healthy lifestyle but you can't consistently smoke w/o horrible consequences.Alexhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11205752419540502278noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27652750935086193822011-07-06T12:54:56.865-05:002011-07-06T12:54:56.865-05:00Did anyone ask Obama if he was too dumb to assess ...Did anyone ask Obama if he was too dumb to assess the risks of smoking and needed a graphic image on the pack? Did Sebelius ask Obama if he quit smoking yet?<br /><br />Maybe Obama just isn't that smart.mcculloughhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03168402889404727565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-71986785489090733952011-07-06T12:52:34.929-05:002011-07-06T12:52:34.929-05:00If smokers aren't deterred by what any smoker ...If smokers aren't deterred by what any smoker over 30 looks like, they're not going to be deterred by pictures on cigarette packs. And I thought the country made a net profit on smokers, since they die before they can collect much Social Security. So as long as they do it downwind, it's fine with me. Drag it in deep, and remember, only sissies use filters!Smilin' Jackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01501763605001379362noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25972622541395579312011-07-06T12:50:52.507-05:002011-07-06T12:50:52.507-05:00Another connection between feminism and the anti-s...Another connection between feminism and the anti-smoking nannies is the spurious numbers they cook up. Super Bowl beatings and the idea that every woman is raped but never reports it are from the same imaginations that claim the outrageous taxpayer costs of cigarettes, a lie dreamed up so that attorneys general could sue and fund even bigger government.<br /><br />Not only are the revenues from tobacco taxes not factored in, neither are the savings from not paying Social Security and Medicare benefits because of early deaths. Not to mention that the assumption made when saying a tobacco death "causes" expenditure assumes that that person would never have died any other way and also incur medical expenses. What do you think costs more, an early cancer death, a quick heart attack or a lingering Alzheimer's patient? It's b.s. propaganda.<br /><br />(I am not a cigarette smoker, I'm a pipe smoker, a group that lives longer than the national average.)fivewheelshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00511002180195360137noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-78193895367171461082011-07-06T12:49:30.212-05:002011-07-06T12:49:30.212-05:00@Martin Shoemaker: I'm not sure that's cor...@Martin Shoemaker: I'm not sure that's correct. There is a very strong inverse relation between smoking and education, and smoking and income. But it may be the government is covering both bases, and using the graphics to affect both stupid people and lazy people.coketownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11257222645480570714noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54140341787464322742011-07-06T12:48:50.073-05:002011-07-06T12:48:50.073-05:00It's coming, it's coming.It's coming, it's coming.Hagarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03653025261513705773noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39828996307800115682011-07-06T12:44:48.980-05:002011-07-06T12:44:48.980-05:00I think they should have up posters of STDs in mea...I think they should have up posters of STDs in meat market bars.Chuck66https://www.blogger.com/profile/15834146425393263098noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-86792193703974899772011-07-06T12:36:52.411-05:002011-07-06T12:36:52.411-05:00OT a little bit, but ---
Only a little bit of tho...OT a little bit, but ---<br /><br />Only a little bit of thought about the First Amendment leads to the rule that if content based restrictions are to be barred, then that means you can't restrict expression of that content in an articulate or persuasive way, or through the most effective medium.<br /><br />Applying this rule to MacKinnon type feminist attacks on pornography makes things pretty simple. As long as you accept the premise that one could make the political argument that women should be subjugated to men, dominated by them, and viewed as sexual objects directly, then you can't bar pornography on the grounds that it sends the same message indirectly, in an insidiously persuasive way.<br /><br />That is, you can't say that ideas you (or the government) disapprove of may only be advocated in a ham-handed, obvious, and unpersuasive manner.Lucienhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05308128768031294392noreply@blogger.com