tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8490446570081936134..comments2024-03-18T21:42:21.849-05:00Comments on Althouse: "FBI agents investigating CIA Director David Petraeus's affair were shocked when told by bureau officials..."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger129125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47310308736252697022012-11-12T22:26:26.993-06:002012-11-12T22:26:26.993-06:00Here is the supposed timeline.
I wonder if Mr. Co...Here is the <a href="http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2012/11/what-did-the-president-know-and-why-didnt-he-know-it-sooner.php" rel="nofollow">supposed timeline</a>.<br /><br />I wonder if Mr. Contempt of Congress will be put under subpoena now? Every Obama scandal seems to have Eric Holder in the middle of it.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32049815539308206742012-11-12T18:54:44.759-06:002012-11-12T18:54:44.759-06:00Who’s to say those jobs will be in Youngstown, or ...<i>Who’s to say those jobs will be in Youngstown, or suitable for me?</i><br /><br />Youngstown and surrounding areas are victims of their own antiquated thinking. They still act like it's 1967 there. <br /><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharon_City_School_District" rel="nofollow">An educational failure</a> that just built a brand new multi-million dollar high school despite an eroding tax base in a poor (and getting poorer) city.<br /><br /><br /><br />Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68654551342534239662012-11-12T16:47:42.501-06:002012-11-12T16:47:42.501-06:00"Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soo..."Remember, democracy never lasts long. It soon wastes, exhausts, and murders itself. There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide."<br /><br />-- John Adams<br /><br />Yep.<br /><br />Timhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08248882642756619950noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6171613997303086902012-11-12T16:13:10.401-06:002012-11-12T16:13:10.401-06:00He owns it.
Well we all do now. It'd be great...<i>He owns it.</i><br /><br />Well we all do now. It'd be great if we can work together to fix the parts of Obamacare that need to be fixed. But if we can't, we can't. sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10285364537068437552012-11-12T16:05:38.558-06:002012-11-12T16:05:38.558-06:00He used it himself and said he liked it.
I don...<i>He used it himself and said he liked it.</i><br /><br />I don't think he likes it at all. He's got <a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/04/health/policy/democrats-embrace-once-pejorative-obamacare-tag.html" rel="nofollow">no choice</a> now. Obamacare is what people call it. And we will continue to call it that over the next four years. It's his, now. He owns it. <br /><br />But he'd much rather be a high-flying icon, rather than tied down to an actual law that will affect actual people. Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12161759373080531122012-11-12T15:48:51.916-06:002012-11-12T15:48:51.916-06:00I think it was Freeman Hunt, who, in some thread h...I think it was Freeman Hunt, who, in some thread here at Althouse right after the election, made the point that it was the struggling working/middle class people who voted for him who were going to suffer the most from Obama’s re-election.<br /><br />I thought of this when I read <a href="http://www.firstthings.com/onthesquare/2012/11/solidarity-the-republican-blind-spot" rel="nofollow">this piece</a> over at First Things that looks at what might have prompted some of these folks to vote for Obama. We conservatives should take heed.<br /><br />From the article:<br /><br /><i>We should not underestimate how many voters in the muddy middle went for Obama because they feel vulnerable and just don’t trust the Republican Party to look out for their interests. Here, Republican operatives and strategists made a big mistake. They rightly saw that our weak economy was the main issue. But they wrongly assumed that crucial swing state voters were primarily concerned about who is to blame, or even who is most likely to promote growth in the long or even medium term. <br /><br />No, the struggling middle class voters in places like Ohio were primarily concerned to know which candidate and party is most likely to protect them tomorrow.<br /><br />This is a long-term concern. Globalization has threatened and will continue to threaten the viability of middle class life in America. Both parties whistle past this issue because they haven’t a clue what to do. The Democrats, however, have the old New Deal rhetoric and a long history of founding and funding social programs. Unrealistic, perhaps, given our fiscal crisis, but tangible. The Republicans? They promise jobs in an unshackled economy that encourages entrepreneurial initiative. Nice, but hypothetical.<br /><br />Warmed over New Deal “solutions” to the economic pressures and suffering caused by globalization won’t work. In fact, they’ll make the situation worse, because market interventions, protectionism, and social spending garble the market signals that we all need to hear in order to make the sorts of decisions necessary to navigate successfully through the process of globalization. <br /><br />But all that is very academic when you go to the voting booth. If I were a high school-educated male who has recently lost his job at manufacturing plant, I’d roll my eyes at promises about how the free market, if given a chance, will heal itself and resume its job-creating function. Who’s to say those jobs will be in Youngstown, or suitable for me? Social issues aside, I’d vote for Obama.</i>Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380908751421386368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51521218801420856172012-11-12T15:26:28.156-06:002012-11-12T15:26:28.156-06:00But the GOP is extremely artless at this game. The...<i>But the GOP is extremely artless at this game. They walk into it big time more often than not. </i><br /><br />Please weigh the attention and impact the following statements made on the election from a media standpoint.<br /><br />“It seems to be, first of all, from what I understand from doctors, it’s really rare. If it’s a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut the whole thing down.”<br /><br />"He is going to put y'all back in chains."<br /><br />"I struggled with it myself for a long time, but I came to realize that life is that gift from God. And, I think, even when life begins in that horrible situation of rape, that it is something that God intended to happen."<br /><br />"What's happening down in New Orleans? Where's your dollar? Where's your Stafford Act money? Makes no sense. ... Tells me that somehow the people down in New Orleans they don't care about as much."<br />Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-304959645038146532012-11-12T15:15:22.414-06:002012-11-12T15:15:22.414-06:00So Obama's ambivalence about having his name o...<i>So Obama's ambivalence about having his name on Obamacare.</i><br /><br />Didn't you watch the debates? He used it himself and said he liked it.<br /><br />You wingers can't get <i>nuthin'</i> right!sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-23748812594048895512012-11-12T15:13:48.625-06:002012-11-12T15:13:48.625-06:00And what's interesting is that the egotist did...And what's interesting is that the egotist did not actually want his name on Obamacare. Why not? Well, perhaps because he didn't write it. Or read it! Maybe he was embarrassed, like he was embarrassed at winning the Nobel prize. I get the feeling that Obama has been embarrassed all his life by the benevolence of liberals. <br /><br />What are Obama's accomplishments? Getting elected to the Presidency! And then getting re-elected! If Obama can brag about anything he's accomplished, it's getting the job. <br /><br />But the actual job that he's done? Not so much. So Obama's ambivalence about having his name on Obamacare. His name is now tied with his one achievement, a disastrous bit of legislation that, like a rock, will sink his legacy.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39480586926048786632012-11-12T15:06:48.276-06:002012-11-12T15:06:48.276-06:00Detroit was a place that came to be controlled by ...Detroit was a place that came to be controlled by unions and Democrats in a one party city where politicians were re-elected without any reference or accountability as to their performance. Failure year after year.<br /><br />Social programs grew and grew until the tax base couldn't sustain them anymore. Everybody on a government check. And they thought it would never end. <br /><br />Somebody else was going to pay for it.<br /><br />Businesses closed and moving out of town. And you know what they did? <br /><br />They raised taxes. Because all of those rich business owners and wealthy people weren't paying their "fair share."<br /><br />How did that work out for them?<br />Baron Zemohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17301531733692419610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35116180378271563852012-11-12T15:04:01.722-06:002012-11-12T15:04:01.722-06:00Reagan was so huge liberals today pretend they lik...Reagan was so huge liberals today pretend they like him.<br /><br />What's the over-under on naming a statue, a coin, or an airport after Obama? Not gonna happen. <br /><br />He's got his name on an economic disaster that's going to destroy private health insurance.<br /><br />When Obama said "you didn't build that," he was probably thinking of his Nobel prize, or his election to the White House, or his re-election.<br /><br />I didn't earn that!<br /><br />Or maybe he was thinking of his two autobiographies, both published before he fucking did anything.<br /><br />You know what Obama is? Potential! 20 years from now, people will still be talking about all the "potential" Obama had. It's pathetic. <br /><br />He's a walking, talking argument for the abolishment of affirmative action. He's a life lesson on why it's bad to spoil children with gifts.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82364116588744430072012-11-12T15:03:20.211-06:002012-11-12T15:03:20.211-06:00Reagan had already firmly established his own medi...Reagan had already firmly established his own media image with all his years in the movies, and especially on TV as the host of General Electric Theater -- every Sunday night, prime time, for nine years.Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380908751421386368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-82045000299134027522012-11-12T14:58:27.908-06:002012-11-12T14:58:27.908-06:00One of Romney's flaws as a candidate might sim...<i>One of Romney's flaws as a candidate might simply be that he was too nice a person</i><br /><br />He wasn't nice in the primaries, and he wasn't nice when he ran in 2008. Moreover, he knew that his staff rivaled the Dems in their contempt for and condescension toward conservatives.<br /><br />Don't mistake weak and wishy-washy in the face of the Dems for nice.Benderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09322135500288738561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46570869909493996952012-11-12T14:54:58.897-06:002012-11-12T14:54:58.897-06:00And the amazing thing, to me, about Obama is that ...And the amazing thing, to me, about Obama is that he has a cult of personality without actually being a gifted speaker or anything like that. <br /><br />It's like Stalin's cult of personality. It depends upon a complicit media and iconic images. But the actual reality of the guy is not inspiring at all.<br /><br />What was amazing about Reagan was that he inspired a cult of personality on the right with the media attacking him every step of the way. Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-90183704795648601962012-11-12T14:53:18.058-06:002012-11-12T14:53:18.058-06:00I still think there’s something especially abhorre...I still think there’s something especially abhorrent about abandoning one’s fellow countrymen and leaving them to die. Even the crazy old Obama-loving boomers might be susceptible to a change of mind if that were clearly brought home to them.<br /><br />Then, again, there is Olga.Lydiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18380908751421386368noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43692646666815950492012-11-12T14:52:10.316-06:002012-11-12T14:52:10.316-06:00And the identity politics of the left is merely de...<i>And the identity politics of the left is merely demonization of people. "You're a racist, you're a sexist, you're a homophobe." Republicans can, and will, play that game too.</i><br /><br />I didn't read the rest of your post but I'm no fan of identity politics - although I can tell when it's going to bite the GOP in the ass, and often deservedly so. I wouldn't call someone those names unless they actually personally are and I know it, and even then I would more likely ignore them. I'm not someone who thinks being a member of the Tea Party means your racist. <br /><br />But the GOP is extremely artless at this game. They walk into it big time more often than not. <br /><br />sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-65454260696011882692012-11-12T14:51:35.832-06:002012-11-12T14:51:35.832-06:00A white Democrat candidate in 2016 won't have ...A white Democrat candidate in 2016 won't have as many luxuries as Obama has. <br /><br />He (She?) won't carry quite the same symbolism.<br /><br /><br /><br />Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27865530085584810382012-11-12T14:50:04.150-06:002012-11-12T14:50:04.150-06:00IMHO you righties aren't giving the voters a c...<i>IMHO you righties aren't giving the voters a choice. The right-wing base is alientating the women vote big-time, immigration policies (or non-policies) are alienating Hispanics, a lot of blacks perceive you as disrespectful and even hostile to their interests. </i><br /><br />Identity politics are awesome. Known Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15029003649395214104noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-7073385454321968162012-11-12T14:48:20.131-06:002012-11-12T14:48:20.131-06:00The right-wing base is alientating the women vote ...<i>The right-wing base is alientating the women vote big-time, immigration policies (or non-policies) are alienating Hispanics, a lot of blacks perceive you as disrespectful and even hostile to their interests.</i><br /><br />And the identity politics of the left is merely demonization of people. "You're a racist, you're a sexist, you're a homophobe." Republicans can, and will, play that game too. <br /><br />One of Romney's flaws as a candidate might simply be that he was too nice a person. And so one of the lessons for future Republicans may be to engage in that sort of scorched earth demonization that Obama used to win.<br /><br />My larger point is that there are econimic realities aside from this emotional horseshit. I assumed 4 years of Obamanomics would cure people of Obama love. I was wrong. But 4 more years is likely to work wonders. <br /><br />And--thank God--after FDR we amended the Constitution so this cult shit has to stop. So you libs will have to find another deity. Good luck with that.Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49166033124596766332012-11-12T14:46:31.596-06:002012-11-12T14:46:31.596-06:00If you mean specifically Biden, or Hillary or Andy...If you mean specifically Biden, or Hillary or Andy, I don't see what diff it makes to you guys. <br /><br />If Biden goes down for some reason there's plenty of Dems in the wings. sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2073262378600865202012-11-12T14:45:19.445-06:002012-11-12T14:45:19.445-06:00Gee, I think you didn't answer my question!
...<i>Gee, I think you didn't answer my question! <br /><br />Does anybody think that 4 years of Biden will follow Obama?</i><br /><br />How is that not answering your question? "IMHO you righties aren't giving the voters a choice." <br /><br /><br /><br />sakredkowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15652250985982301492noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-42021104264627113612012-11-12T14:44:15.299-06:002012-11-12T14:44:15.299-06:00Rather than dinosaurs Joe Bite-me or Hillary, I ag...Rather than dinosaurs Joe Bite-me or Hillary, I agree with those who say that the Dem nominee will probably be Andrew Cuomo, son of one of the great precursors to Obama's disingenuous arguments and attitude of condescension, Mario Cuomo.Benderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09322135500288738561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-19968671568672223572012-11-12T14:43:49.802-06:002012-11-12T14:43:49.802-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.Benderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09322135500288738561noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27557290561055110212012-11-12T14:42:01.808-06:002012-11-12T14:42:01.808-06:00Petraeus was the dog that 'didn't bark'...Petraeus was the dog that 'didn't bark' about Benghazi before the election. He would have taken the Fifth before Congress,no other answer would work for him.frankhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13833763205428304308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83746578501008476562012-11-12T14:37:58.253-06:002012-11-12T14:37:58.253-06:00IMHO you righties aren't giving the voters a c...<i>IMHO you righties aren't giving the voters a choice. The right-wing base is alientating the women vote big-time, immigration policies (or non-policies) are alienating Hispanics, a lot of blacks perceive you as disrespectful and even hostile to their interests. <br /><br />If you believe at this point 2016 is going to be a gimme for Repubs, you haven't learned anything.</i><br /><br />Gee, I think you didn't answer my question! <br /><br />Does anybody think that 4 years of Biden will follow Obama?Saint Croixhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17876368500159112781noreply@blogger.com