tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8405942254172905624..comments2024-03-29T04:30:19.523-05:00Comments on Althouse: Trump wins.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger160125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51346172750277545162016-02-21T22:30:50.331-06:002016-02-21T22:30:50.331-06:00WTF? Outrageous^
Michael K:
Where were you awhil...WTF? Outrageous^<br /><br />Michael K:<br /><br />Where were you awhile ago? Well, you were more busy establishing your "true 'conservative' cred [what, a hobby?]" as opposed to doing the very thing that you could have chosen to do, but didn't choose to do: provide information and insight that's useful in an of itself.<br /><br /> ---<br /><br /><br />Too late, you. Too late.rcommalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00301180339680504471noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17290665891133379162016-02-21T16:14:16.346-06:002016-02-21T16:14:16.346-06:00"The republicans have a hell of a time genera..."The republicans have a hell of a time generating models of healthcare reimbursement and delivery that actually work to hold down costs and improve quality."<br /><br />There are pretty good systems that do accomplish that purpose but they require the use of market mechanisms which are anathema to Democrats. The French system is excellent and is the highest rated in Europe.<br /><br />The original model that used real insurance for insurable events and expected people to pay cash from routine care would work and it has been neglected for 60 years. The mess that Obamacare made might get people interested again. Many doctors are dropping all insurance and practicing for cash. Patients are figuring out that model might be preferable.<br /><br />A hybrid model that combined a market system plus a system for the poor might be workable but the culture of welfare would have to change. As the money runs out, it will change.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8026971946879242902016-02-21T16:09:04.436-06:002016-02-21T16:09:04.436-06:00@ Steven (2/21/16, 2:59 AM): I'm sorry I misse...@ Steven (2/21/16, 2:59 AM): I'm sorry I missed your comment last night, and I commend you for its clarity.<br /><br />I believe Cruz <i>will</i> exceed 50% in Texas on March 1. If they re-ran the 2012 runoff election between him and David Dewhurst today, Cruz would get 85% instead of 56%. He's that much more popular now. The very things that make someone like Prof. Althouse squirm -- his bomb-throwing in the Senate, his uncompromising adherence to core principles even in the face of ridicule -- were what Texans sent Cruz to Washington for.<br /><br />That's not to say that Texans are all bomb-throwers. We've also sent back, even more recently, John Cornyn to the Senate -- and he's the very model of propriety and collegiality, the proverbial workhorse to Cruz' showhorse. <br /><br />But Texans want some bombs to be thrown, and Cruz has kept his word that he'd be the right man for that job.Beldarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13404583858244777905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18298450046936173942016-02-21T16:04:38.346-06:002016-02-21T16:04:38.346-06:00Prof. Althouse, re Mary Glenn: That's fine, an...Prof. Althouse, re Mary Glenn: That's fine, and you're entitled to delete or block anyone you choose from your blog and its comments. I didn't know of your history with her, and perhaps in the past there have been other things she posted which so violated your standards (which are yours to set) that you concluded you'll also delete comments from others who are arguing <i>against</i> her.<br /><br />But if you want all commenters to know of their peril if they respond to her comments, put it in your sidebar, perhaps.Beldarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13404583858244777905noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67755205024155482122016-02-21T14:07:55.386-06:002016-02-21T14:07:55.386-06:00JR565 Wrote: they also pass the costs onto the pu...JR565 Wrote: they also pass the costs onto the public through the universal programs we already have. Medicaire doesn't pay doctors enough for service. Which is why many doctors don't in fact take medicaire anymore. And that cost then goes on to the consumer. You think a universal model woudn't do the same thing?<br /><br />Trump was not talking about physicans, he was talking about emergency care in hospitals. You are right, Many doctors do not take Medicare (though I suspect that it is the complexity of the product as much as the rate of reimbursement that may be related to doctors leaving medicare), many doctors also do not take United Healthcare, Humana, Aetna, depending on the nature of the contract. My point was that Trump was promoting as a new idea, something that is already in force, i.e. that any hosptial that takes Medicare, Medicaid, or Champus/Tricare patients (I know of no hospital that does not in this country) must provide emergency care to patients who don't have insurance or are destitute. It has led to many folks using the ER to obtain non-emergency care. As for what effect a universal model might have on access to providers, I suspect that it could have a profound effect on access, particularly if there is pent up demand. As for rates of reimbursement, who knows, I can tell you that there are medicaid and medicare reimbursement rates that pay more than commercial insurance. Beaumonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09007445658441606393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60133388713134940802016-02-21T13:40:12.875-06:002016-02-21T13:40:12.875-06:00Bob Ellison: "Kasich! He'd be a good VP ...Bob Ellison: "Kasich! He'd be a good VP and a good partner for an in/under-experienced President.<br />Might not be the best running mate-- too nice-- but he could help carry Ohio."<br /><br />No, he wouldn't.<br /><br />Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10196133492571178882016-02-21T13:31:49.469-06:002016-02-21T13:31:49.469-06:00bbkingfish: "Looks like Bush isn't giving...bbkingfish: "Looks like Bush isn't giving up after all."<br /><br />LOL<br /><br />Like the Black Knight in "The Holy Grail", Bush should simply declare a draw. With much the same result.Dragohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04079148433908004715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-6364375369205278032016-02-21T12:33:22.299-06:002016-02-21T12:33:22.299-06:00In fairness to Trump, he doesn't state outrigh...In fairness to Trump, he doesn't state outright "i'm for universal health care" He says "whatever you want to call it is fine. But we wont let people die in squalor on the streets". Chuck Todd then asks him the required follow up "Would you therefore make it a mandate?" And Trump waffles and says "it's up to them if they want insurance" (paraphrasing). So in other words it wouldn't be a mandate.<br />Chuck Todd didn't follow up addressing the fundamenal illogic of the point. Namely, if its not a mandate, and you decide not to buy insurance (because its not a mandate) and go to a hospital, woudl the govt let you die in squalor? So then it really would be a mandate. If you didn't have to buy insurance, but then got it when you went to a hospital, why buy insurance before you actaully use it? and why pretend like its not universal? <br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11682153332554845162016-02-21T12:06:21.038-06:002016-02-21T12:06:21.038-06:00Beaumont wrote:
The republicans have a hell of a t...Beaumont wrote:<br />The republicans have a hell of a time generating models of healthcare reimbursement and delivery that actually work to hold down costs and improve quality.<br> well those alternate plans are not actually in play, because we instead have Obamacare, so we can't know that those WOULDN"T drive down costs. We know that Obamacare certainly isnt. <br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-34322742739858526742016-02-21T12:04:03.809-06:002016-02-21T12:04:03.809-06:00Beaumont, universal health care is basically like ...Beaumont, universal health care is basically like Medicaire but for everyone. The same issue with costs are going to occur, but on a massive scale. Having access to health insurance doesn't suddenly make the cost of care go away. Universal health care would simply mean even people not on medicaire or medicaid would go to a hospital, not be able to pay the bill, and get service. Thus driving up the costs. There will also be extended wait times. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83692342755285200022016-02-21T11:59:58.294-06:002016-02-21T11:59:58.294-06:00Beaumont wrote:
I find it hard to believe that Tru...Beaumont wrote:<br />I find it hard to believe that Trump or his people are unaware that there are regs already in the books that basically says that any hospital that treats Medicare or Medicaid patients must provide emergency care to the indigent and uninsuranced (although some hospitals attempt to avoid this). Of course, these hospitals pass these costs on to the public. <br /><br> they also pass the costs onto the public through the universal programs we already have. Medicaire doesn't pay doctors enough for service. Which is why many doctors don't in fact take medicaire anymore. And that cost then goes on to the consumer. You think a universal model woudn't do the same thing? jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-399069392692573272016-02-21T11:56:29.865-06:002016-02-21T11:56:29.865-06:00""It's tough, it's nasty, it'...""It's tough, it's nasty, it's mean, it's beautiful" And most of that nastiness is coming from him. jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24986145679438689782016-02-21T10:28:48.620-06:002016-02-21T10:28:48.620-06:00Will Mr Trump ever get out of the 30s and move int...Will Mr Trump ever get out of the 30s and move into the 50s? If not, he can be stymied at the Convention. Then it is the "Dark Horse". Things are different today, but my hero of the day in 1968, HHH, won the nomination without running in a single Primary. It isn't so much who is voting for Mr Trump as who is voting against him.<br /><br />Regards — CliffC R Kriegerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10563658418464959198noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35955385731568955992016-02-21T09:40:40.980-06:002016-02-21T09:40:40.980-06:00Do Trumpbots who are conserative/republican actual...Do Trumpbots who are conserative/republican actually want universal health care?<br /><br />Trump keeps saying that we cannot let people die in the street that we have to have a mechanism to provide emergency care to people who have no money or insurance. <br /><br />I find it hard to believe that Trump or his people are unaware that there are regs already in the books that basically says that any hospital that treats Medicare or Medicaid patients must provide emergency care to the indigent and uninsuranced (although some hospitals attempt to avoid this). Of course, these hospitals pass these costs on to the public. <br /><br />The republicans have a hell of a time generating models of healthcare reimbursement and delivery that actually work to hold down costs and improve quality. Apparently, Ted Cruz claimed that his family had no insurance because of Obamacare and had to have his Campaign staff correct this misrepresentation. If Cruz does not give a shit about his own family having health insurance what makes you think that he would give a damn about anyone else having reasonable access to healthcare. Or, more likely, Cruz will make damn sure his family has insurance (though will lie about it) but likely dosen't give a shit one way or another that other people may not.Beaumonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09007445658441606393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-59021799755417882182016-02-21T09:28:30.188-06:002016-02-21T09:28:30.188-06:00And here is Trump saying the problem with Republic...And here is Trump saying the problem with Republicans is they don't support universal health care. <br />So, the front runner wants to get rid of Obamacare and replace it with universal healthcare. Do the conservatives or republicans who previously supported conservatives and think they are traitors for not fighting against Obama actually want universal health care?<br /><br /><br />"We’re not going to let people die in squalor because we are Republicans, okay?” “That’s part of the problem with the Republicans, somehow they got fed into this horrible position,” Trump said. “We’re going to take care of people.”<br /><br />That is a democratic far left talking point .That the only choice is universal health care or letting people die in squalor. <br />Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431674/trump-part-problem-republicans-opposition-national-health-care<br /><br /><br />I don't want to hear how he is giving an f you to the establishment.Why is that an issue if he then delivers universal health care? That would be an even bigger f you to everyone that Obamacare ever would. <br /><br />Do Trumpbots who are conserative/republican actually want universal health care? or do they want the same republicans they are saying need to be told what's what to fight against their own front runner on health care? And would they then be traitors if they didn't adopt universal health care? or would they be traitors if they didn't attack their own president and stand against his call to push for universal health care? Because Bernie Sanders liberals and other liberals in general would LOVE to support universal health care. If trump were president, and pushed universal health care he will get a lot of democratic support for it. <br />Repubs then would be oppositional to their own president.<br />What do Trumpbots who didn't support Obamacare care think about his calls for universal health care? <br />jr565https://www.blogger.com/profile/06250384040393259866noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-18051478889561215432016-02-21T09:20:26.896-06:002016-02-21T09:20:26.896-06:00"which is why I campaigned for Bush instead o..."which is why I campaigned for Bush instead of Reagan, who I thought was too extreme, too scary. I was really, really wrong."<br /><br />Yes, Reagan was the Trump-like guy in 1980.<br /><br />Not the bluster and bad manners but this is post Obama when nastiness is the default theme of politics.<br /><br />I have no idea if Beldar's scenario holds but it sounds reasonable to me.<br /><br />I think turnout is what will defeat Hillary this year.Michael Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18127450762129879267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58612009343672406692016-02-21T08:57:45.922-06:002016-02-21T08:57:45.922-06:00I thought all along Ann Althouse backed the modera...I thought all along Ann Althouse backed the moderate in the GOP race, Donald J. Trump. I'm not joking. Am I alone in having that impression? Or was the current post ironic?<br /><br />Rubio wants to kick off a military showdown with Russia, embroil the U.S. even deeper in the Middle East quagmire, continue the Obama open-borders policy while backing amnesty for illegals, grant in-state college tuition to illegals but not to out-of-state Americans.<br /><br />He was unable to comprehend the Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage, thinking the court granted the federal government the power to "regulate marriage." He is an anti-abortion extremist, even in cases of rape, incest, and it would appear the life of the mother.<br /><br />Rubio: "Our goal is eternity. The purpose of our life is to cooperate with God’s plan. [...] I try to allow that to influence me in everything that I do." The ravings of a numskull.Mark Caplanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15157338755022593966noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87647801883377364302016-02-21T08:28:36.988-06:002016-02-21T08:28:36.988-06:00" I think he's running in a different lan..." I think he's running in a different lane. "<br /><br />When did the "lane" meme start? I don't recall that phrase '12 or '08Phil 314https://www.blogger.com/profile/04133300763922742206noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-88706705535854623812016-02-21T08:07:56.715-06:002016-02-21T08:07:56.715-06:00The Dems have two candidates: Hillary, and Not Hi...The Dems have two candidates: Hillary, and Not Hillary. After March 1st, the R's<br />will have Trump, and Not Trump. <br /><br />The Dem game is fixed, so it's HRH HRC on their side. I'm a Not Trump voter in the primary, and a Not Hillary voter in the general.DanTheManhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07388305611132014815noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30698861672022287742016-02-21T07:41:14.097-06:002016-02-21T07:41:14.097-06:00Kasich!
He'd be a good VP and a good partner ...Kasich!<br /><br />He'd be a good VP and a good partner for an in/under-experienced President.<br /><br />Might not be the best running mate-- too nice-- but he could help carry Ohio.Bob Ellisonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10446972838620138676noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-12705525501671625442016-02-21T07:34:19.217-06:002016-02-21T07:34:19.217-06:00"Boy, Ann really hates Cruz. Won't even s..."Boy, Ann really hates Cruz. Won't even say his name. I guess that's his punishment for bein a class traitor to the Ivy League."<br /><br />You're overreading the absence of speech.<br /><br />I didn't do an update on Cruz's speech because it was late and I wasn't near my computer.<br /><br />I didn't say he needs to drop out and endorse Rubio because I don't think he does. I think he's running in a different lane. He's the staunch conservative. The moderates need to coalesce around Rubio. It should be a 3-man race, with Trump, Cruz, and Rubio. That gives the moderate an even shot at running in the too-crowded lane. Trump and Cruz are running in their own lane (except Carson might be in Cruz's lane... but Carson doesn't seem to like Cruz, so he won't endorse him).Ann Althousehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-22536858518412059122016-02-21T07:25:48.085-06:002016-02-21T07:25:48.085-06:00Belder wrote about Cruz in response to a previous ...Belder wrote about Cruz in response to a previous Althouse Post "You can't succeed so conspicuously at that level, friends and neighbors, unless you have a solid reputation for absolute honesty -- meaning both intellectual honesty and personal honesty. .. Speaking as a board-certified civil trial specialist with 36 years of practice experience in Cruz' home state,<br /><br />Absolute honesty? You cannot equate the sorts of professional attainments you outline with character or moral and ethical behavior in other areas of one's life, this correlation is far from perfect. From my vantage point, to make the sorts of claims you are making, you have to observe a person up close over an extended period of time. Beaumonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09007445658441606393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-2787543085872835262016-02-21T07:20:19.610-06:002016-02-21T07:20:19.610-06:00I like Rubio fine, He has more experience than Oba...I like Rubio fine, He has more experience than Obama, but almost everyone does. The people have spoken, and we are down to Rubio and Cruz. Cruz is by far the most experienced. Cruz/Rubio tkt, and in 8 years, If Rubio shows his chops at this level, he will have his 8 years in office. Lets face it. Rubio has stumbled a lot in the campaign, and running for President is not near as difficult as being President. We do need an adult. Obama has run the country like a couple of college guy pontificating about the ills of the world and solving them, fueled by pot, beer, and doritos. Running the country is not a video game. So you need real life experience, not a theory. Like 'smart diplomacy'. Campaign slogans are fine, but eventualy, you need life experience (failures, that teach) to move forward.iowan2https://www.blogger.com/profile/14716635412314020236noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74843688417272712632016-02-21T07:02:21.179-06:002016-02-21T07:02:21.179-06:00Gadfly @ 12:21 pulled a Beldar. He seriously says ...Gadfly @ 12:21 pulled a Beldar. He seriously says I was wrong for pointing out Trump won the Evangelical Cruz Cult stronghold Upcountry counties that Cruz was supposedly a lock to win For God, and not only that, those counties are located a whole 10 miles or so From King's Mountain and Old Hickory's birthplace. Talk about spin.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-10137703123624566962016-02-21T07:01:53.645-06:002016-02-21T07:01:53.645-06:00This comment has been removed by the author.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.com