tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8384563160702537706..comments2024-03-18T22:15:24.770-05:00Comments on Althouse: Prosecutors want Anders Behring Breivik — who killed 77 and injured 242 persons — to be found insane and given psychiatric treatment.Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger65125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67941153928324317132012-06-23T06:30:04.985-05:002012-06-23T06:30:04.985-05:00Norway's legal system seems to completely igno...Norway's legal system seems to completely ignore the existence of evil people and how to deal with them. And yet, this is a country that was occupied by one of the most evil regimes in history. The only explanation is willful and intentional stupidity. And the prosecutor claims Brevik is nuts. Brevik is playing the system and may have planned to do so from the beginning. He saw the flaws in their system and is taking advantage of it.Gojuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02806827452805103139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63883009802253994062012-06-22T00:41:20.704-05:002012-06-22T00:41:20.704-05:00Brehvik is literally showing these people that the...Brehvik is literally showing these people that their ideology is FUCKING INSANE!!! They are literally proving that Brehvik was right all along. Their leftism is on display. Look at it, see the insanity for what it is.Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11545336843967504192012-06-21T23:02:26.895-05:002012-06-21T23:02:26.895-05:00That's a great lie, yashu - you've never a...<i>That's a great lie, yashu - you've never agreed with me, on anything, since the day you arrived.</i><br /><br />That's four out of four pinocchios. <br /><br />And not that it matters, but I'm as much of an atheist as you. Just an atheist of a different kind.yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-13287708277660007162012-06-21T20:48:50.233-05:002012-06-21T20:48:50.233-05:00Synova,
Crack... The man killed teenagers. Those...Synova,<br /><br /><i>Crack... The man killed teenagers. Those teenagers no more decided on their parent's politics and philosophy than random people in the street. There is no doubt that he did it. What do you think the outcome of a *fair* trial would be? Is there any reality where he's not a mass murderer who deserves a bullet to the head? Or better, his gut, so he can bleed to death slowly or die of sepsis?</i><br /><br />Sy, that's an emotional argument. I didn't say I admired the guy or that he shouldn't pay. I said he had a point to make, and it's being wiped away so Norway can feel good about itself and continue doing the crap that pissed him off. They're cerebrating it now. A *fair* trial would shut that shit down.<br /><br />We do the same thing here and it's wrong. Conservatives don't want to deal with the fact <a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2008/02/cnn-is-seein-in.html" rel="nofollow">they're repeating Obama 2008.</a> They just want to beat Obama. I want to as well. You know that. But, just as I should've been happy to see the First Black President four years ago, I don't want these things to happen like this - not with these people - and, most definitely, not involving any cults what-so-ever. Even <a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2008/10/macho-response-orson-scott-card.html" rel="nofollow">a Mormon saw the deception</a> last time.<br />So, for the second presidential election in a row, I will watch the celebrations while clutching my stomach, dreading the future as I do now. For the second presidential election in a row, I am saying no good can come of this, and there will be no joy when I'm right. And, for the second presidential election in a row, I'm left to wonder about my fellow citizens who - after I lived in Europe and returned home to truly enjoy it - I can no more fathom than the socialists overseas. <br /><br />All I can see is a cliff and the people I love determined to drive over it any way they can.<br /><br />I can still remember explaining America to my French wife, many years ago, by telling her "nothing good happens here without tragedy." <br /><br />This election - no matter which way it goes - that statement is going to be truer than I ever imagined,...The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5807807347513465082012-06-21T20:24:26.873-05:002012-06-21T20:24:26.873-05:00Oops, messed up the link somehow. Try this one in...Oops, messed up the link somehow. <a href="http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/06/norway-expresses-its-love.html" rel="nofollow">Try this one instead</a>.Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-51084553360550358502012-06-21T19:50:50.014-05:002012-06-21T19:50:50.014-05:00Crack...
The man killed teenagers. Those teenage...Crack...<br /><br />The man killed teenagers. Those teenagers no more decided on their parent's politics and philosophy than random people in the street. There is no doubt that he did it.<br /><br />What do you think the outcome of a *fair* trial would be?<br /><br />Is there any reality where he's not a mass murderer who deserves a bullet to the head? Or better, his gut, so he can bleed to death slowly or die of sepsis?Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-46849492719373983232012-06-21T19:12:47.799-05:002012-06-21T19:12:47.799-05:00Crack...Reading Brevik as a cult fighter is an int...Crack...Reading Brevik as a cult fighter is an interesting angle.<br /><br />Cults are always at war with one another. The powerful ones try to clear the decks of the less powerful ones. That removes embarassments and competitors for the minds it seeks control over.<br /><br />But the goal of the Baddest Cult is still killing off people. So I fail to see any value in supporting them to kill off the lesser ones. You are only a little way down their list.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64648968609025399872012-06-21T18:43:48.154-05:002012-06-21T18:43:48.154-05:00Kirk Parker,
I think Crack is perceiving somethin...Kirk Parker,<br /><br /><i>I think Crack is perceiving something that a lot of us want to ignore, though his response isn't IMO all that coherent or helpful. In a way, it's somewhat parallel to the Occupy crowd, of whom I would say Yes, they're right in thinking that some grave injustice has been done--it's just that they're wrong about the what and to whom.</i><br /><br />Oooh - ouch! While I appreciate the statement of support, bad analogy, dude. How's this for coherent:<br /><br />We live in a country that's supposed to protect the individual, but individuals are hurt by cults and those cults - for some illogical reason - have the full support of the public. So the victims have nowhere to turn. They are destroyed, while everyone celebrates and defends their attackers, who should be looked at as a mob and dismantled. <br /><br /><br /><i>Or perhaps a better analogy is to say that Crack is spotting the folks who are busily sawing off the branch we're all sitting on, and I for one usually feel like cutting him a little bit of slack for getting all frustrated that no one seems to notice or care about it.</i><br /><br />Whew! Much better. And accurate - this is our country. We should be working to protect it, NOT electing members of cults who swore an oath to think of their "church" first.<br /><br /><i>To bring it back to the original post, take a gander at this amazing story, and see if that doesn't make Crack's outlook seem just a little less over-the-top.</i><br /><br />The link doesn't work, but I think I know what it leads to - very creepy.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4825176812953314662012-06-21T18:26:17.179-05:002012-06-21T18:26:17.179-05:00Yashu,
I think Crack is perceiving something that...Yashu,<br /><br />I think Crack is perceiving something that a lot of us want to ignore, though his response isn't IMO all that coherent or helpful. In a way, it's somewhat parallel to the Occupy crowd, of whom I would say Yes, they're right in thinking that some grave injustice has been done--it's just that they're wrong about the <i>what</i> and <i>to whom</i>.<br /><br />Or perhaps a better analogy is to say that Crack is spotting the folks who are busily sawing off the branch we're all sitting on, and I for one usually feel like cutting him a little bit of slack for getting all frustrated that no one seems to notice or care about it.<br /><br />To bring it back to the original post, take a gander at <a href="gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2012/06/norway-expresses-its-love.html" rel="nofollow">this amazing story</a>, and see if that doesn't make Crack's outlook seem just a little less over-the-top.Kirk Parkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05921711310191924997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47305194018866007602012-06-21T18:16:15.274-05:002012-06-21T18:16:15.274-05:00yashu,
So you see, if someone massacres children ...yashu,<br /><br /><i>So you see, if someone massacres children in Provo or sets off a series of terrorist bombs at yoga classes, it will be our fault. For not stopping "what has got to stop," for not "accepting responsibility for creating the environment that allowed it to happen."</i><br /><br />Funny you should mention that, yashu, considering - as a fellow Utahn - you know about the guy who recently blew up himself and his kids because "I can't get a fair trial in Utah." What a great place Mormon country is with that statement (and those three dead bodies) hanging over it? <br /><br /><i>If there's an "anti-cultist" 9/11, those chickens will just be coming home to roost, deservedly so. We will be responsible. To blame e.g. for nominating Romney.</i><br /><br />"You can believe what you want to believe" - including killing cultists is O.K. - just as cultists killing others is O.K.. What? They're just beliefs! We can all go willy-nilly with them. Anything goes - until a cult or cult apologist is offended. But no one else has a right to be offended, or something. <br /><br />What were we talking about again?<br /><br /> <i>Sure, it would suck for those massacred Mormon kids or Oprah-watching yoga moms-- for their throats to be slit, to be blown to bits. But "if a Breivik showed up and acted, here, to expose cultism, I'd have to - at least a little - defend him as well."</i><br /><br /><a href="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/history/world-war-two/9098525/Nazi-leader-Heinrich-Himmler-a-fan-of-yoga.html" rel="nofollow">Heinrich Himmler was a fan of yoga</a> - and a good family man. I've never cried a day about his death - and <a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2008/03/everybody-into-pool.html" rel="nofollow">NewAge is an offshoot of Naziism,</a> so I don't cry about cultists meeting bad fates, generally. I know my share of Mormons, and some are "nice" people (as many have noted) but <a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2008/07/nazis-and-newagers-spiritual-connection.html" rel="nofollow">what they do is evil</a> and unworthy of my love or support. I don't cry easily - and won't for a cult. I tell everyone <a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2011/01/just-twisting-yourself-into-knots-over.html" rel="nofollow">to stop this lying.</a> They don't. SOMEBODY's gonna get pissed. But it'll be nobody's fault. Sure.<br /><br />Call me whenever you or anyone else decides to write a word in support of THEIR victims, then we can talk about compassion, yashu. You prefer they suffer in silence, of course, as you support their attackers/exploiters/brainwashers, etc.<br /><br />I read about cult deaths and <a href="http://www.cnbc.com/id/47881681" rel="nofollow">Mormon crimes</a> every day. Do you, yashu? Or are you cacooned in a dream? Do you seriously think I'm going to trip on any others? Especially any designed to stop them? Or, as the numbers continue to climb with your blessing, will I see it as a normal, natural, reaction? An act of compassion for their victims? <br /><br /> <i>You've turned into something unrecognizable, Crack, something that makes me shudder.</i><br /><br />That's a great lie, yashu - you've never agreed with me, on anything, since the day you arrived. See how easy it is to be unethical. Go on, tell another one:<br /><br /><i>Words fail me.</i><br /><br />And yet there's still another paragraph to go,… <br /><br /><i>I'll go back to avoiding futile arguments with you.</i><br /><br />See? You lied. You're going "back to avoiding futile arguments" as you used to have with me. <br /><br />So, now that we've established you're a liar, who between us is the moral person? The honest atheist or a(nother) lying defender of Mormonism?<br /><br />And isn't it funny how lying is the defacto position of cult apologists? I'm figuring it's one of those situations where words like "moral," and "unethical," don't mean what you think they mean. <br /><br />If you keep reading Joseph Smith, that problem will persist,...The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-87102940149637586722012-06-21T17:31:29.192-05:002012-06-21T17:31:29.192-05:00So you see, if someone massacres children in Provo...So you see, if someone massacres children in Provo or sets off a series of terrorist bombs at yoga classes, it will be our fault. For not stopping "what has got to stop," for not "accepting responsibility for creating the environment that allowed it to happen." We have no right to "condemn" the brave soul who was forced to do what he thought he had to do, "acting on the right side of morality" though his methods might be considered counterproductive.<br /><br />If there's an "anti-cultist" 9/11, those chickens will just be coming home to roost, deservedly so. <i>We</i> will be responsible. To blame e.g. for nominating Romney. <br /><br />Sure, it would suck for those massacred Mormon kids or Oprah-watching yoga moms-- for their throats to be slit, to be blown to bits. But "if a Breivik showed up and acted, here, to expose cultism, I'd have to - at least a little - defend him as well."<br /><br />You've turned into something unrecognizable, Crack, something that makes me shudder. "Breivik has done his deed, and stepped forward honorably to challenge those around him - it is they who are behaving in a cowardly and dishonest manner, starting with the total disregard for the issues he's representing." Words fail me. <br /><br />I'll go back to avoiding futile arguments with you. I've said my piece (or let your words speak for themselves). But I just cannot believe my eyes as I read your comments on this thread.yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14684684083028184822012-06-21T17:23:21.551-05:002012-06-21T17:23:21.551-05:00It's always so nice to read Crack's explan...It's always so nice to read Crack's explanation of what a horrible person I am. And it's nice to read how it's not the mass murderer that should be shunned from society (indeed! listen to the guy! his killings have meaning!), but people like me.shirley elizabethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00531842026700203446noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49085179391730604722012-06-21T17:11:52.529-05:002012-06-21T17:11:52.529-05:00someone should just kill him and do the 90 days.someone should just kill him and do the 90 days.Xhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12133279828547003387noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-25684284374685304912012-06-21T16:52:22.422-05:002012-06-21T16:52:22.422-05:00Breivik was NOT insane; he was a true believer in ...Breivik was NOT insane; he was a true believer in his own cause. He believed that the policies of the Labor party were betraying the country by allowing an unfettered stream of immigrants to flow in and fundamentally change the character of Norway. Taken to its logical conclusion, if the people he opposed were traitors, then the only way for him to deal with them was to eliminate them in order to change the policy. By attacking a party youth camp, he was attacking the next generation of traitors (as he saw them) to try to nip them in the bud. He hoped that his actions would cause others to rise up in the fight to cleanse the country of alien influences, but of course, he was delusional about that; the utter revulsion caused by his actions probably ended any serious discussion about immigration in Norway for a long time.<br /><br />Note that these are not my personal views (i.e, about people being traitors, etc.), but what Breivik appeared to be thinking.Clydehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16736461252925227611noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80050148113611032742012-06-21T16:49:22.831-05:002012-06-21T16:49:22.831-05:00Something we're not looking at-
Trying to act...Something we're not looking at-<br /><br />Trying to act as sane as possible is the defendant's best strategy. If he's sane he's out in 20.<br /><br />There's nothing honest or noble or honorable about it. It's the best way to manipulate the system.<br /><br />If he were in an American state with the death penalty, insanity would look pretty good.NotWhoIUsedtoBehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568355742926021406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-68169627513811587842012-06-21T16:36:16.298-05:002012-06-21T16:36:16.298-05:00"Breivik had told the court how he had reload..."Breivik had told the court how he had reloaded his gun while victims sat waiting for him to kill them on the island of Utoeya." I'm sorry. Speaking of Freudian slips, who did they say was insane? There is no technical system of diagnosis by which any evidence so far presented supports a diagnosis of insanity for Brevik.a psychiatrist who learned from veteranshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00347313804041291393noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39895221836606220222012-06-21T16:27:28.704-05:002012-06-21T16:27:28.704-05:00Scott,
Nobody who does what Breivik did is acting...Scott,<br /><br /><i>Nobody who does what Breivik did is acting on the right side of morality. At least if you're not living in Pol Pot's world.</i><br /><br />Not true - we send young men and women off to war all the time, and they kill men, women and children, with our full support - and they are morally right. <br /><br />The difference is only Man Vs. Society and, if society is fucked up, it may do exactly what Norway is doing and then be "completely misrepresented by the press & now the Norwegian courts." That is not moral. <br /><br />Breivik has done his deed, and stepped forward honorably to challenge those around him - it is they who are behaving in a cowardly and dishonest manner, starting with the total disregard for the issues he's representing. Those issues are as real as he and his actions, but any investigation into them will probably ensnare his captors as easily as they have him.<br /><br />BTW - the world we in the west are living in, now, is Pol Pot Lite. I have argued for reason, logic, and education regarding Romney and his cult, only to face push-back in favor of Mormon fantasists. That was the same behavior of the Khmer Rouge, who would kill you if you showed signs of having and sticking by an education, and such a willingness to twist right and wrong like that is precisely the type of societal evil cultism unleashes, to create and maintain an unethical and immoral society. <br /><br />Synova,<br /><br /><i>The problem is... IT DIDN'T WORK.</i><br /><br />Because Norway (like America in this regard) is unethical and immoral. They now rely on deception - "completely misrepresented by the press & now the Norwegian courts" - which only speaks to how immoral and unethical THEY are. Not the depravity of Breivik, but why he did what he did. We know how far he'd go, but it's also pretty clear what he (and those like him) have been up against. They face a nation of delusional and/or lying jackals.<br /><br /><i>Arguing that the horror might possibly have some utility because of the great need and that nothing else will get the message though... ... requires that the message get through.</i><br /><br />So you're inviting an even bigger/worse response. I'd prefer an open-and-honest discussion, myself, but suit yourselves. I've seen how hard that is to come by, though I don't understand the reticence to do so. Oh, wait, yes I do - some of the "good" people could find themselves in trouble - that's enough to, both, make them lie AND prove goodness may rest elsewhere.<br /><br /><i>If there is a way to alert people of the danger they face, it's not undertaking an unthinkable massacre that clearly identifies *them* as innocent victims, and yourself and your concerns as a monster.</i><br /><br />I see a man who committed an act, awaiting a fair trial, and if there's one thing we can all agree on it's that HE ISN'T GOING TO GET IT. So who are the monsters? Those using the justice system to hide their sins or the man who his more-than-willing to answer for his? <br /><br /><a href="http://themachoresponse.blogspot.com/2012/06/if-mitt-becomes-popular-boys-name-ill.html" rel="nofollow">As you can see,</a> I'm planning to write about this very subject on my blog, because of how everyone assumes, as I rail against Romney and his cult, they think I'm warning against an LDS take-over, when it's something else entirely:<br /><br />This propensity to twist and spin reality to accommodate the cultist's version of "the truth."<br /><br />Cults, cultism, and cultish thinking turn us into stooges for the cults, whether we join or not, and no good can come from that in the end. Eventually reality catches up with you, just as it has in Norway, and will continue to do so until they confront their issues head on, just as we in this country need to do as well.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84220920669210477102012-06-21T16:09:26.663-05:002012-06-21T16:09:26.663-05:00For public safety, he needs to be executed or impr...<i>For public safety, he needs to be executed or imprisoned until he dies.</i><br /><br />And since Norwegian law does not allow for either the death penalty or a life sentence, the only way they can keep him locked up for life is if they declare he's insane and manage to never cure him.<br /><br /><i>If the prosecution brings it up, do they tacitly admit that multiple murder sentences won't be as effective at keeping him in jail as an insanity finding?</i><br /><br />Not all that tacitly.<br /><br />Norway has no non-disingenuous way to handle Breivik, largely because of the criminal justice policies of the same Labor Party whose youth camp Breivik attacked.Stevenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05138730966226244399noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-4466525800552563502012-06-21T14:31:49.284-05:002012-06-21T14:31:49.284-05:00If he's nuts they can confine him for the rest...If he's nuts they can confine him for the rest of his life. There's no life sentence in Norway.NotWhoIUsedtoBehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14568355742926021406noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89677131462028823182012-06-21T14:17:59.942-05:002012-06-21T14:17:59.942-05:00"The complacency of those in modern society i..."<i>The complacency of those in modern society is such that nothing less than mass murder will shake them.</i>"<br /><br />Okay. To go full utilitarian:<br /><br />The problem is... IT DIDN'T WORK.<br /><br />Arguing that the horror might possibly have some utility because of the great need and that nothing else will get the message though...<br /><br />... requires that the message get through.<br /><br />If there is a way to alert people of the danger they face, it's not undertaking an unthinkable massacre that clearly identifies *them* as innocent victims, and yourself and your concerns as a monster.<br /><br />Utility fail.Synovahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01311191981918160095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72647191218385578162012-06-21T13:41:01.486-05:002012-06-21T13:41:01.486-05:00What Darcy, Synova, and Scott said. I am appalled ...What Darcy, Synova, and Scott said. I am appalled by Crack's remarks on this thread.yashuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12716156754089411837noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-16821913234546163882012-06-21T12:50:08.868-05:002012-06-21T12:50:08.868-05:00He should have declared war on the domestic subver...He should have declared war on the domestic subversives. As it is, if they execute him, he will die a martyr. However, it really doesn't matter what they do. More Europeans are resisting transformation (and corruption) of their societies and are no longer willing to be slaves of the left-wing elite or victims of their imports.<br /><br />My advice to Europeans is to reconsider exchanging liberty for submission with benefits and to embrace the natural order (i.e. reject abortion and other behaviors which engender evolutionary dysfunction). They can avoid physical conflict through a demographic majority and recapturing their Christian heritage. That is how their ancestors overcame a massive invasion from without and ensured solidarity from within, respectively.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-27632549007075621152012-06-21T12:38:35.441-05:002012-06-21T12:38:35.441-05:00Thanks, YoungHegelian.
And Amen, Scott. There was...Thanks, YoungHegelian.<br /><br />And Amen, Scott. There was no morality in that slaughter.Darcyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05642443487136176511noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-76528183489499481442012-06-21T12:35:30.142-05:002012-06-21T12:35:30.142-05:00"Not exactly - he could've been acting on...<i>"Not exactly - he could've been acting on the right side of morality..."</i><br /><br />Nobody who does what Breivik did is acting on the right side of morality. At least if you're not living in Pol Pot's world.<br /><br />Smiling faces and funny underwear.<br />What a beautiful world this will be.<br />What a glorious time to be free.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14341576498315327700noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49662769649263991562012-06-21T12:18:51.900-05:002012-06-21T12:18:51.900-05:00Scott,
If you swatted your wife's head off wi...Scott,<br /><br /><i>If you swatted your wife's head off with a bat, but honestly thought you were playing softball, that's insanity.</i><br /><br />Yes.<br /><br /><i>His was not a nurological flaw, but rather a moral failure.</i><br /><br />Not exactly - he could've been acting on the right side of morality but, as I said, striking out at the immoral in (his mind) the only manner left to him.<br /><br /><i>There's little difference between a mass murderer and a conservative -- it's just a matter of degree, say the progressives. To declare Brevik guilty would be a moral judgment, and progressives never make those, oh no!</i><br /><br />And there it is. Non-judgmentalism is a cornerstone of cultish thought (How dare I pass judgment on Romney's cult? They seem so nice,...) and everyone engaged in propagating such bullshit, Left and Right, is responsible. <br /><br />Good job, broccoli!The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.com