tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8264611385392609079..comments2024-03-19T04:21:39.658-05:00Comments on Althouse: "If the gender game worked when Rick Lazio muscled into her space, why shouldn’t it work when Obama and Edwards muster some mettle?"Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1392849984679505952007-11-06T10:14:00.000-06:002007-11-06T10:14:00.000-06:00Hat tip to some of the Lefties on the board. Its n...Hat tip to some of the Lefties on the board. Its nice to see you guys shoot down idiots on the Left who would whitewash Clinton's sexual abuse. Its heartening to see you defend the principles you've championed, even when the perp is one of your own. <BR/><BR/>Thanks.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-36730106342465097822007-11-06T10:08:00.000-06:002007-11-06T10:08:00.000-06:00fen: evidently bill believed "eatin' ain't cheatin...fen: evidently bill believed "eatin' ain't cheatin'" and oral sex isn't sex, which I would expect from an early baby boomer who grew up at the dawn of the sexual revolution.former law studenthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15196697206046544350noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-8175878284697968702007-11-06T09:51:00.000-06:002007-11-06T09:51:00.000-06:00Cyrus/Christopher: Monica ... was nobodys business...Cyrus/Christopher: <I>Monica ... was nobodys business anyway</I><BR/><BR/>Wrong again. Monica was a subordinate employee. Forgetting for a moment the ehtical violation of abusing the intern program [like Foley did], there were several parties who "business" this was:<BR/><BR/>1) Jones, of course. Under the 1994 Crime Bill, she had a right of discovery to determine if Clinton had a pattern of sexual predatory behavior in the workplace. Once she discovered Monica was involved with Bill sexually, she had a right to interview Monica to find out whether it was consenual or coerced.<BR/><BR/>2) Every other women working at the White House. Monica was given "jobs for sex" - interviews at Revlon and the UN <I>soley</I> because she sucked Bill's cock. Women in the workplace should compete for raises/promotions/interviews based only their work performance, not on how well they swallow. I only wish you could be employed at a place where your career path depended on whether or not you had sex with the boss, that would be poetic justice.<BR/><BR/>The ONLY affair that was "nobody's bussiness" was Clinton's involvement with Gennifer Flowers.<BR/><BR/><I>So you're saying it was the business of a special prosecutor with an unlimited budget and the full majesty of the law behind him? THAT's bullshit.</I><BR/><BR/>I also love the way you blame Starr for spending too much money to uncover Bill's lies and obstruction of justice. Shows a severe confusion of ethics on your part. I guess if a perp tossed a murder weapon into the bay, and a detective was forced to spend $3 mil dredging the harbor for it, you'd blame the detective instead of the perp...<BR/><BR/>Shorter: if Clinton had simply told the truth: "yes we were sexually involved but it was consenual", he would have saved the taxpayers alot of money, and saved the country alot of grief.Fenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16734571593963330215noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-92080585377838802642007-11-06T08:46:00.000-06:002007-11-06T08:46:00.000-06:00When I first heard here about Hillary having legs,...When I first heard here about Hillary having legs, I thought the reference was to the reason that she typically wears pants suits instead of skirts and dresses - apparently something after she had Chelsea caused her legs to balloon. But came to find out that it was her campaign that everyone was talking about having legs. <BR/><BR/>But I am missing something. I seem to remember her husband settling with Paula Jones. That doesn't sound to me like Ms. Jones didn't have a case against him. Anything to the contrary asserted here would seem to be an attempt to rewrite history. <BR/><BR/>Which brings me to why Bill Clinton's sexual harassments are likely to remain in play during this campaign - Hillary in essence enabled him by essentially running the Bimbo Eruption patrol and the efforts to smear the women who asserted sexual harassment and/or assault by her husband. It calls into question her feminist credentials, and whether she is a good champion of women. <BR/><BR/>In other words, should women look to her as a hero and a leader when historically she has enabled depredations against women by her husband?Bruce Haydenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10815293023158025662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49039807182956033482007-11-06T03:28:00.000-06:002007-11-06T03:28:00.000-06:00Everybody knows sex is dirty any time men are invo...Everybody knows sex is dirty any time men are involved.<BR/><BR/>HRC is just reminding us of it.<BR/><BR/>Those dirty men! Yuk. Piling on her viciously, ganging up on her in a pack, as men (dirty dogs!) are wont to do--and yet, she came out on top. ON TOP, she tells you.<BR/><BR/>She's a survivor. etc.Guessthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09992149995339281422noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-1340361004592446402007-11-05T21:54:00.000-06:002007-11-05T21:54:00.000-06:00Christopher is Cyrus.Christopher is Cyrus.Gedaliyahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08414106662981462086noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-14136699798641421902007-11-05T20:13:00.000-06:002007-11-05T20:13:00.000-06:00Rick Lazio is hot.I would do him.Rick Lazio is hot.<BR/><BR/>I would do him.Titusdjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15836351568345307585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-80690332959462440262007-11-05T20:00:00.000-06:002007-11-05T20:00:00.000-06:00hillary! played some sort of gender/victim card in...<I>hillary! played some sort of gender/victim card in 2000? who knew? certainly nobody conscious at the time. </I><BR/><BR/>Ah, but how many people can stay conscious during a Clinton/Lazio debate? Very few indeed!Revenanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11374515200055384226noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-62760938445244531172007-11-05T19:52:00.000-06:002007-11-05T19:52:00.000-06:00I want to see SF vlog you naked in a bubble bath w...I want to see SF vlog you naked in a bubble bath with the bubbles strategically placed on your tits.<BR/><BR/>The blogosphere would be on fire if you did this.<BR/><BR/>Come on do it please.Titusdjhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15836351568345307585noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-29479031573244776572007-11-05T19:38:00.000-06:002007-11-05T19:38:00.000-06:00What's wrong with perjury?What's wrong with perjury?garage mahalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06485491995866513686noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-52477355260388961592007-11-05T18:03:00.000-06:002007-11-05T18:03:00.000-06:00also, john todder, clinton was never "convicted of...<I>also, john todder, clinton was never "convicted of perjury."</I><BR/><BR/>Okay, right. He was found by the judge to have given false testimony. The massive distinction between the two eluded me in the heat of the moment.John Stodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14185881995621265497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-5320113938027996272007-11-05T17:54:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:54:00.000-06:00sweet jesuspraising a maureen dowd column..will th...sweet jesus<BR/><BR/>praising a maureen dowd column..will the wonders never cease. she's the most insipid columnist out there outside of jonah goldberg. <BR/><BR/>hillary! played some sort of gender/victim card in 2000? who knew? certainly nobody conscious at the time. <BR/><BR/>to the bogus "feminist" points getting thrown around: jones, wiley, etc, were obvious trashy frauds<BR/><BR/>anita hill was a respectable professional <BR/><BR/>people, including your mythical "left," make credibility determinations. anita hill had a lot more than these women. <BR/><BR/>for one thing, jones wanted $$, and lot of it. how much $$ did hill get? all hill got was trashed all over the national media as "a little bit nutty and a little bit slutty." wow, what incentive to lie for her!! <BR/><BR/>also, john todder, clinton was never "convicted of perjury."The Exaltedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18030346881185443267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-64844184297357692007-11-05T17:52:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:52:00.000-06:00I must apologize...My discussion of Hillary Clinto...I must apologize...My discussion of Hillary Clinton and foster care was based on two articles in The NYTimes of 11-5-07, p.A1.<BR/><BR/> TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63808408672366517612007-11-05T17:50:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:50:00.000-06:00If you're interested in cheap shots and the latest...If you're interested in cheap shots and the latest schoolyard gossip, then you'll love Dowd. <BR/><BR/>And when she's ripping on Republicans, I'll admit I enjoy it. But I temper that knowledge and schaudenfraude knowing Dowd's not fact-based and in no way fair. <BR/><BR/>This comment from MoDo is false: "If she could become a senator playing the victim after Monica..." Hmm, no. She didn't do that and that's not why New Yorkers voted for her. She didn't play the victim card after the Monica thing happened. <BR/><BR/>Many commenters, beginning with Digby, I believe, have pointed out that males play the gender card all the time. What do you call a group of men clamoring to be the biggest torturer, that is the Republican field?AlphaLiberalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08711124490821422066noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-83064056721120346092007-11-05T17:28:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:28:00.000-06:00John Stodder"intellectually honest".Um, I do not t...John Stodder<BR/><BR/>"intellectually honest".<BR/><BR/>Um, I do not think that these trolls know the meaning of those words.From Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-21135764767528482822007-11-05T17:25:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:25:00.000-06:00christopher said... SGT Ted said... "Monica ...<I>christopher said...<BR/><BR/> SGT Ted said...<BR/><BR/> "Monica ... was nobodys business anyway...."<BR/><BR/> Bullshit. Thats a cheap excuse. Try again.<BR/><BR/> So you're saying it was the business of a special prosecutor with an unlimited budget and the full majesty of the law behind him?<BR/><BR/> THAT's bullshit.</I><BR/><BR/>Actually, I would think that something like this would be the business of the special prosecutor since the level of investigation required him to seek all avenues. With respect to an unlimited budget, aren't you talking about all prosecutors in this regard, special or not? Because I have to wonder how many millions of dollars were spent trying to convict OJ only to get an acquittal? Are you also going to make the argument that prosecutorial powers are subject a level of budget and financing and on which level, the federal level or the state/local level? How much money do you want to have spent in prosecuting certain crimes? or will cash strapped municipalities have to stop any investigations because they become to expensive? Also, don't all prosecutors have the full majesty of the law behind them too?Methadrashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07828014989470539375noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-49829692827842416182007-11-05T17:20:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:20:00.000-06:00Jones lost her case, but that didn't mean she was ...<I>Jones lost her case, but that didn't mean she was lying.</I><BR/><BR/>The judge said it shouldn't even have been brought. It was an obvious fraud.<BR/><BR/>Anybody who says that Jones was anything other than a lying extortionist backed by a bunch of deeply dishonest rightwing zealots with an agenda is either an idiot or being deliberately disingenuous.<BR/><BR/>Anita Hill's case isn't quite as clear cut, but that has nothing to do with the fact that Jones was unquestionably full of it.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963802071472595912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-67605103307462554302007-11-05T17:18:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:18:00.000-06:00Hillary Clinton,gender game,11-5-07 So there are ...Hillary Clinton,gender game,11-5-07<BR/> So there are different rules when a woman enters the U.S. Presiden- tial race ? Geraldine Ferraro -who is supporting- Hillary and says so. that is very relevant to the nonsense that Hillary Clinton and Geraldine Ferraro push -and its abysmal failures.<BR/> Having been a Family Court Law Guardian for more than a few of the children in question, I know what I'm saying when I say that feminism, multiculturalism and all other similar rot has done nothing other than destroy the foundations of the world.<BR/> More than 80% of my work in the Family Courts (nearly 20 years) involved child abuse and neglect. But why are child welfare agencies so overwhelmed with children in foster care ? Because of feminism, that illogic which denies that anyone has any responsibilties at all, and mandates that we,the taxpayers,will pay for millions of children born to unmarried mothers who have 17 children all by diffe- rent fathers (most of whom spend half their lives in prison).<BR/> The claim that child welfare agencies are "insensitive to a wide variety of social, cultural and racial considerations for minority families" is feminist rubbish and politically correct balderdash. The child welfare agencies are run by liberals, ultra-liberals and feminists whose good intentions only produce bad -terrible,even- results (no one ever learned the 'law of unintended consequences').<BR/> What we have in the Family Courts<BR/>and child welfare agencies -nationally- is little more than a sickly blend of paternalistic feminism that hurts us all.<BR/> Is that what we want in the USA and the world ? Elect Hillary and you'll get even worse.<BR/> TomAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9697607407319239352007-11-05T17:17:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:17:00.000-06:00Chris claimed: "All you need to know about Juanita...Chris claimed: "All you need to know about Juanita is that the hotel she said it happened at hadn't been built at the time..."<BR/><BR/>This would be quite damning, if true, but Bruce Gottlieb, writing at Slate, http://www.slate.com/id/1002027/ <BR/>says that not only was there such a hotel, but that her memory of the scenery outside her window (a prison) checks out as well.Dorsaihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17253950621398998384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-48327369284248085212007-11-05T17:12:00.000-06:002007-11-05T17:12:00.000-06:00History also shows that one woman was telling the ...<I>History also shows that one woman was telling the truth and one wasn't.</I><BR/><BR/>You cannot come close to proving that. Jones lost her case, but that didn't mean she was lying. Hill never let anyone test her charges in court either way, having passed up many opportunities to file sexual harassment claims against Thomas. <BR/><BR/>The only intellectually honest way to say what you said is: "I prefer to believe Hill was telling the truth and Jones wasn't. I can't back it up. I just like saying it."John Stodderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14185881995621265497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-45084015526463597222007-11-05T16:59:00.000-06:002007-11-05T16:59:00.000-06:00SimonPremise. I do not think that you understand t...Simon<BR/><BR/>Premise. I do not think that you understand the meaning of that word under the Orwellian basis of Ultra Left argument,specifically in this instance, that the Ultra Left needs to get its agenda adopted through via the judicial process since it cannot get it through the Executive or Legislative process. Ergo, things must be understood under that overriding, overweening premise not the false premise, the simplistic analogy logic that you would enforce on Ultra Leftists who have the best intentions. (Sort of a victim position!) <BR/><BR/>And their logic demands that one think globally. Thus, even if it is an auto da fé & one of the pillars of Ultra Left Theology that the woman accuser is always to be believed, that position is obviously inoperable when it interferes with the greater good of the Ultra Left, in this case the Holy Grail: a Liberal SCOTUS.<BR/><BR/>And also, in Thomas’ case, even though it is another auto da fé & one of the pillars of Ultra Left Theology that all Blacks are victims per se, this auto da fé, this pillar is inoperable in the case of an Uncle Tom who, by designation (theirs), can be attacked by whites. <BR/><BR/>To put it in plain English words, then, while Uncle-Tom Clarence Thomas’s accusers come under the auto da fé of “she must be believed”, it would be suicidal to Ultra Left desideratum not to recognize the danger of allowing Slick Willie’s accusers to escape under this article.<BR/> <BR/>Now one has to tread carefully here. One cannot admit that this double talk, this seemingly contradictory result is, well, actually, contradictory. So one must keep the argument focused on the accusers: Anita Hill is a quiet, conservative, religious appointee of Ronald Reagan while Juanita B, Paula J, Kathleen W, & assorted liars are, quite simply “Bimbos”, & per se unreliable.<BR/><BR/>RegardsFrom Inwoodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00555545963289759013noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43661526999969991602007-11-05T16:50:00.000-06:002007-11-05T16:50:00.000-06:00It IS irrelevant to the question that was posed. I...<I><BR/>It IS irrelevant to the question that was posed. If you can't see that then why in the world are you wasting your time on a law blog?</I><BR/><BR/>No, it's NOT irrelevant.<BR/><BR/>But since when is this a law blog?<BR/><BR/>I thought it was a comedy site...Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15963802071472595912noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32796454551796690272007-11-05T16:48:00.000-06:002007-11-05T16:48:00.000-06:00christopher said... "I've got more important stuff...christopher said... <BR/><BR/>"I've got more important stuff to do today -- like alphabetizing my socks."<BR/><BR/>You'll need to put on an R on half of them, then use an L on the other half. It should speed up the process of dressing in the morning or afternoon when you awake.AllenShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08848966772462502893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-11500249192856525372007-11-05T16:45:00.001-06:002007-11-05T16:45:00.001-06:00History also shows that one woman was telling the ...<I>History also shows that one woman was telling the truth and one wasn't.</I><BR/><BR/>Where, pray tell, did "history" show that Hill was telling the truth?Original Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01714345479248980398noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-35992982199359596872007-11-05T16:45:00.000-06:002007-11-05T16:45:00.000-06:00If you think that's irrelevant,It IS irrelevant to...If you think that's irrelevant,<BR/><BR/>It IS irrelevant to the question that was posed. If you can't see that then why in the world are you wasting your time on a law blog?Dust Bunny Queenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13341429444562280127noreply@blogger.com