tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post8254176114175079703..comments2024-03-29T06:24:15.282-05:00Comments on Althouse: "Prostitution is just a form of dating."Ann Althousehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01630636239933008807noreply@blogger.comBlogger146125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-44711061204466598482015-12-02T00:22:08.490-06:002015-12-02T00:22:08.490-06:00Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada. And Rhod...Prostitution is legal in parts of Nevada. And Rhode Island legalized it once as well. STDs and rapes actually dropped as a result of prostitution. Despite being illegal in most states backpages is filled with prostitution ads that have been unregulated by the government. Prostitution is also legal in many parts of Europe. Such as Germany, Spain and Denmark. <br /><br />http://tokyo.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/blonde-tattooed-girlfriend-experience-100-real-gorgeous-and-rare-beauty-available-now/2981790<br /><br />There are also prostitution ads in Tokyo Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08376687324763071016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-74022334591010634562015-12-02T00:17:02.439-06:002015-12-02T00:17:02.439-06:00Ive toured america as a Chinese officer. Prostitut...Ive toured america as a Chinese officer. Prostitutes are illegal. But you can still find them on backpagesAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08376687324763071016noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-54604002014147634742011-08-20T22:23:43.040-05:002011-08-20T22:23:43.040-05:00I partially believe in your opinion but not all fo...I partially believe in your opinion but not all forms of dating resulted to prostitution.ct car servicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00832134865914036984noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-58037840667055417672011-07-15T11:48:12.993-05:002011-07-15T11:48:12.993-05:00Ann, you and your readers maybe interested in my b...Ann, you and your readers maybe interested in my blog; we discuss these issues (and many more related to them) every day.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-89781459773549400592011-07-15T11:09:23.086-05:002011-07-15T11:09:23.086-05:00BurtB--
There's nothing unlibertarian about t...BurtB--<br /><br />There's nothing unlibertarian about that.<br /><br />If sleeping with the boss is a job requirement, you quit and find a new job. That's what you have to do now, too.blakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05430444326700437630noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9112330010307168242011-07-15T06:34:31.232-05:002011-07-15T06:34:31.232-05:00The author says dating equals prostitution. Ann s...The author says dating equals prostitution. Ann says prostitution equals a getting a haircut. <br /><br />Therefore, dating equals getting a haircut?Writ Smallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17956452269460626177noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-63592622793555587552011-07-15T02:08:33.535-05:002011-07-15T02:08:33.535-05:00OTOH.<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BnFRd11sMk" rel="nofollow">OTOH.</a>reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-30975746279867674812011-07-14T23:43:52.234-05:002011-07-14T23:43:52.234-05:00You enlightened should not forget that the fact th...You enlightened should not forget that the fact that prostitution is against the law is the only defense some women have against being forced into it.<br /><br />SkevoSkevohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04095544841889353147noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-37983592438992285982011-07-14T22:46:59.334-05:002011-07-14T22:46:59.334-05:00OK, here is an argument against.
The summary is t...OK, here is an argument against.<br /><br />The summary is that it will make sexual harassment harder to prove.<br /><br />Job descriptions that include sex as part of the expected tasks could take advantage of women who need the job, but then would not be able to deny the sex, because that is an expected job function for that particular position.<br /><br />http://patterico.com/2011/06/22/in-which-i-clear-up-some-misconceptions-on-sexual-harassment%E2%80%A6/#more-60597<br />****<br />And let me back up and highlight something about that relationship between quid pro quo sexual harassment and prostitution. This is also one of the better arguments against legalizing prostitution (besides my deep moral objections to the practice): because otherwise it would be impossible to outlaw quid pro quo harassment. As I just said, if a male boss says to a female employee, “sleep with me or you’re fired,” then what he is really proposing is to change a person’s job description to include prostitution.” And if prostitution is legal, then how can there be anything wrong with that?<br /><br />The libertarians of the world who wish to legalize prostitution like to say, “as long as it is consensual and between adults, what’s the problem?” Well, the problem is that it won’t all be consensual. Too often it will the creepy boss telling a subordinate “sleep with me or you’re fired” and while it might not be coercion as the term is defined in the law, too many women will feel they have no choice. And that is unlibertarian.<br />****BurtBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07184408616594358095noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-39813870783149037892011-07-14T22:46:02.735-05:002011-07-14T22:46:02.735-05:00Thank freakin' God I have no desire to hire a ...<i>Thank freakin' God I have no desire to hire a hooker. There's not one chance in a quadrillion that I'd find to who would meet my ... specifications.</i><br /><br />Nonsense, Peter. Where there's demand, there's supply. Especially if, specifically, you're willing to pay enough for specific things.<br /><br />Given all the various demands fulfilled within the universe of prostitutes (and all the risk-costs associated with so many of those demands), I'm hard put to believe that it's impossible to find suppliers of not-shaved crotches if the price is right.<br /><br />Perhaps the issue is not the lack of willingness to go unshaven, dear Peter, but rather your not willing to render fair trade (otherwise known as "asking price") for access to that state which you seem to think is not just rare, but a privilege to which you're denied access.<br /><br />I mean, how else is one to speculate, really? Really, now.reader_iamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17352836883752091339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-28164580753466863672011-07-14T21:49:58.503-05:002011-07-14T21:49:58.503-05:00Thank freakin' God I have no desire to hire a ...Thank freakin' God I have no desire to hire a hooker. There's not one chance in a quadrillion that I'd find to who would meet my ... specifications.<br /><br />PeterAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-77233497519879142902011-07-14T21:21:50.703-05:002011-07-14T21:21:50.703-05:00Not all prostitution is caused by poverty...others...Not all prostitution is caused by poverty...others are habitual or easy money...poor ladies!! come'on change your attitude.louisvillechiropractichttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01233361461105186962noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-32529586976688052482011-07-14T21:02:06.773-05:002011-07-14T21:02:06.773-05:00Canada, Australia, Britain, Sweden, Netherlands, e...<i>Canada, Australia, Britain, Sweden, Netherlands, etc...</i> <br /><br /><i>Prostitution is legal or decriminalized in almost the entire Western world, and has been for a long time.</i> <br /><br />That's untrue. In Sweden, for instance, it is not illegal to sell ones sexual services. But it is illegal to <i>buy</i> sex, which effectively makes all prostitution illegal.<br /><br />Canada is a different case, where a lone judge (so-called) just recently struck down laws against prostitution - because she felt like it.<br /><br />Prostitution law in Australia varies from state to state.<br /><br />British law is a half-way house between criminalizing prostitution and legalizing it.flenserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864178703173384289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24630445426072863272011-07-14T20:19:10.521-05:002011-07-14T20:19:10.521-05:00Pathetic people really are just that - pathetic:
...Pathetic people really are just that - pathetic: <br /><br />When I was in high school, my best friend and I both screwed 3 girls apiece, at his house, over a bet who could get the most. No money changed hands.<br /><br />Two women once took me home because I was "nice." No money changed hands.<br /><br />One tall amazonian blonde took me home with the words, "You'll do." No money changed hands.<br /><br />One lady FUCKED THE SHIT OUT OF ME because she liked the way I danced.<br /><br />I once looked up and there were 5 women in my apartment, doing the dishes/laundry, etc., with one in my room waiting to blow me. No money changed hands, and I was more concerned with finishing a sculpture.<br /><br />And I once went over to a friend's house, only to find a woman down on her knees, scrubbing his tile floor with a toothbrush. I asked him what was up and he said, "She won't go home." We retired to his room, smoked a joint, and laughed.<br /><br />This author ain't got no game.<br /><br />And - I might add - the one time I didn't treat a woman as I knew I should've - when I loved her and treated her as an intimate and an equal - it blew up in my face. <br /><br />That will not ever happen again.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-17426812988474788252011-07-14T20:12:28.078-05:002011-07-14T20:12:28.078-05:00The problem with making something like prostitutio...<i>The problem with making something like prostitution illegal on moral grounds ...</i> <br /><br />All laws are made on "moral grounds". It takes a certain type of person to notice that a particular law which they dislike is based on moral grounds and exclaim "Ah ha!" <br /><br />The zoning laws in whatever neighborhood you live in are based on moral grounds. <br /><br /><br /><i>Morality is closely linked to one's religious views, but there are a wide variety of religions in the USA with a wide variety of moral codes</i> <br /><br />Which one of these "moral codes" thinks that prostitution should be legalized? I don't think that "progressivism" counts as a moral code.<br /><br /><br /><i>As a libertarian, I don't want the government pushing me around unnecessarily.</i> <br /><br />Expecting you to be able to get a girlfriend without buying one hardly constitutes pushing you around. As an ideal, libertarians <i>should be</i> rugged individualists. Why is it that in practice they tend to be unhappy asocial losers who spend their time nursing a sense of grievance against the world?<br /><br /><br /><i>Christians still dominate the USA so a lot of them are OK with laws based on Christian morality</i> <br /><br />Is this whole "Hooray for gay marriage and prostitution" business on the part of agnostic ex-Jews really just about sticking your thumb in the Christians eye? Because that is (a) petty (b) malicious and (c) dumb.<br /><br />Tone down the anti-Christian sentiment if you want to persuade people.flenserhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05864178703173384289noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-60363344008801008982011-07-14T20:03:21.731-05:002011-07-14T20:03:21.731-05:00chickenlittle,
Fred4Pres said...
One day we will ...chickenlittle,<br /><br /><i>Fred4Pres said...<br />One day we will be like France.<br /><br />What, and have today be a paid holiday?</i><br /><br />In a system where you have to do 40+ hours of work in 35, there's hardly ever what you want to buy available, you almost have to stay in your social/economic class, and half of your pay goes to somebody else's medical care so you can't really buy anything when you travel - is that the paradise implied here?<br /><br />Or just the part about somebody fucking your wife for money?The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-72792160704399512352011-07-14T19:59:33.501-05:002011-07-14T19:59:33.501-05:00Of course, somebody could, in theory, feel lust fo...<i>Of course, somebody could, in theory, feel lust for someone and also insist on payment.</i><br /><br />Certainly. Consider the ancient Romans' attitude in these matters. As Paul Veyne writes in his chapter “The Roman Empire” in Volume I of <i>A History of Private Life</i>:<br /><br />The social and institutional character of the Roman economy was so different from that of our own that it is tempting to call it archaic. It sustained, nevertheless, a high level of production and was as dynamic and ruthless as capitalism. For, if Roman aristocrats distinguished themselves by their culture and their interest in philosophy, they were still avid for profit.<br /><br />The greatest nobles talked business. Pliny, a senator, in letters intended to be specimens of the finest in the genre, held up his behavior as a wealthy landlord as an example for others to follow. When a noble wished to get rid of old furniture or building materials, he held a public auction. (Auctions were the normal way for private individuals to sell their used belongings; the emperors themselves auctioned off unwanted palace furniture.)<br /><br />Money was not supposed to lie idle. Even loans to friends and relatives earned interest (not charging interest on such loans was considered a mark of special virtue). A woman's father had to pay interest to her husband if transfer of her dowry was delayed.<br /><br />Usury was a part of daily life; modern anti-Semites might have made ancient Rome the object of their obsession instead of the Jews. In Rome commerce and money-lending were not left exclusively to professionals or to any one class of society. Any toil, no matter how pleasurable, merited payment.<br /><br />One picturesque aspect of amorous customs among the Romans was that the female partner in a high-society affair was paid for her trouble. A matron who deceived her husband received a large sum or, in some cases, an annual income from her lover. Some cads reclaimed these gifts when affairs were broken off, and on occasion the courts became involved.<br /><br />The practice of accepting gifts from lovers was considered not prostitution but work for hire. The woman did not give herself because she was paid, the jurists held; she was rewarded for giving herself of her own free will. She who loved best was most handsomely paid. Women sought the wages of adultery as eagerly as men sought dowries.<br /><br />(unquote)Michael McNeilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09264006157583629644noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-24253203098651471662011-07-14T19:56:28.334-05:002011-07-14T19:56:28.334-05:00This guy is a moron who can't pick up women. T...This guy is a moron who can't pick up women. The man ain't got no game.<br /><br />timmaguire42,<br /><br /><i>It's not a very original argument.<br /><br />We've all heard it already and we all know it's true. In any other field, what can legally be done for fun can also be legally done for money. Why is sex so different? Besides "non-paid" relationships are usually paid (as much or more), but the transaction is indirect--instead of giving her money to perform, we buy her stuff in the hopes of a performance. In that telling, prostitution is not just little different, it's more honest.</i><br /><br />Speak for yourself, loser.The Crack Emceehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08366101526773588864noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-40452194913874853642011-07-14T19:33:58.210-05:002011-07-14T19:33:58.210-05:00"Slavery is just a form of exploitation"..."Slavery is just a form of exploitation" following the demonstration of economic and societal benefit derived from its utility.<br /><br />This is only incidentally related, but why has our society rejected slavery as a legitimate economic institution? Is it just consideration for involuntary exploitation or its combination with a loss of liberty that causes normal people to recoil in horror?<br /><br />If consent was actually an issue of merit, then abortion (the violent destruction of human life when it is most vulnerable) would similarly cause normal people to recoil in horror. Yet, in progressive measure, it does not.<br /><br />I imagine there are other principles and concerns involved.<br /><br />As with slavery and abortion, the normalization of behaviors known to be unproductive (if only anecdotal) should entail a feasibility study.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84562608083359459902011-07-14T19:13:00.175-05:002011-07-14T19:13:00.175-05:00We could normalize prostitution.
Let's consid...We could normalize prostitution.<br /><br />Let's consider the preliminary results from the ongoing experiment in America's Black community.<br /><br />The highest number of single parent households.<br />The highest number of multiple women impregnated by a single man.<br />The highest number of aborted human lives.<br /><br />Of course, this is just anecdotal evidence; and, most important, it is society (i.e., taxpayers) that pays the fees of both the prostitute (i.e., "mother") and raising (or sacrificing) the children following the "date".<br /><br />So, let's deny the natural order (e.g., procreation) and let's also deny the enlightened order (i.e., individual dignity). It is clear that instant gratification trumps both. And why not, when we have been so progressive in our efforts to normalize involuntary exploitation and denigration of individual dignity. Surely the devaluation of human life and the diminishing fitness of our species (at least the beings with "Western" morals and outlook) is of little consequence.<br /><br />In any case, it seems prudent to at least conduct a feasibility study before we normalize what has been known to be a deviant behavior with negative outcomes for all individuals involved and for society in general.n.nhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04252447117532342957noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-9291547679641822212011-07-14T19:12:59.006-05:002011-07-14T19:12:59.006-05:00The Feds will mess it up.
OSHA will prohibit pe...The Feds will mess it up. <br /><br />OSHA will prohibit penis sizes over a safe measurement.<br /><br />Labor dept Wage and Hour will require time cards and overtime for non-supervisory piece work done off site.<br /><br />Licenses to screw will be a hidden tax. And anyone caught screwing without a license will have to pay a stiff fine and do community service, or is that service the community.<br /><br />And wait until the Mormon hotel chain Marriott starts pimping out four teenagers for the price of one, at the same time.traditionalguyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05706120413005530014noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-56168086774419078432011-07-14T18:38:53.735-05:002011-07-14T18:38:53.735-05:00"There needs to be some law, and we should tr..."There needs to be some law, and we should try to draw the lines in the right place and justify our decisions rationally."<br /><br />True. And every rational decision admixes irrational components, unavoidably and "unexpectedly." And that phenomenon compounded with the phenomenon of self-awareness (reflexive consciousness) generates the subject of morality. Animals are spared that struggle.<br /><br />Also, lines, legal and otherwise, share with fixed fortresses the quality of impermanence, or, in the fine old phrase, corruptibility (subject to dismemberment, being undone).<br /><br />The world is created anew each moment or it disappears. Life breathes or dies. Prostitution is a financial activity but not an economical one. It does not produce life. For this reason it will never be considered comparable to, much less compatible with, economical activity (= building up and out). Prostitution is a cipher, like homosexuality and psychotropic drugs. An hollow egg. Plenty of individuals like hollow eggs, but that does not make them or their eggs seminal or economical.David R. Grahamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16416692639208634879noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-84504856227963390742011-07-14T18:12:27.549-05:002011-07-14T18:12:27.549-05:00Proverbs 6:26, Today's English Version.Proverbs 6:26, Today's English Version.ken in txhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345764031059905578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-47596901738457118702011-07-14T17:54:38.228-05:002011-07-14T17:54:38.228-05:00Proverbs says a man should not have sex with anoth...Proverbs says a man should not have sex with another man's wife because he could just as easily buy a prostitute for the cost of a loaf of bread—well not any more, inflation you know.ken in txhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14345764031059905578noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6329595.post-43361201733084878542011-07-14T17:48:04.382-05:002011-07-14T17:48:04.382-05:00"Of course, somebody could, in theory, feel l..."Of course, somebody could, in theory, feel lust for someone and also insist on payment."<br /><br />That's always been my practice. I insist upon payment regardless of circumstances or relationship. I find that women - especially professional women - readily adapt to this requirement as soon as they understand that the policy is "no freebies, ever". If you want it you pay for it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com